And it didn't have to go very far.
The scheme is absolutely horrendous. If Steven Crowl beats you in the post then Steven Crowl beats you in the post. And it's pretty easy to make adjustments when the double comes at the exact same time every single time (first dribble). Doesn't take Ners to figure out the scheme there.
Hell of a block by Chase. He is good.
Tough break and swing there.
Not making open shots, and not adjusting sooner by Shaka did us in.
wades
I used to think you were knowledgeable on the game, what happened to you? Defense does travel and continue to improve defensively.
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 03, 2022, 05:55:05 PM
Not making open shots, and not adjusting sooner by Shaka did us in.
Not adjusting is the key. Why do we wait for "halftime adjustments?" Make them sooner! The first half killed us.
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 03, 2022, 05:55:05 PM
Not making open shots, and not adjusting sooner by Shaka did us in.
Marquette shot fine. But I agree that the defensive adjustments were the issue.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 06:42:28 PM
wades
I used to think you were knowledgeable on the game, what happened to you? Defense does travel and continue to improve defensively.
+1
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 06:42:28 PM
wades
I used to think you were knowledgeable on the game, what happened to you? Defense does travel and continue to improve defensively.
Today was a big step back defensively. We made a horrible offensive team look like the KD version of the Golden State Warriors.
Goose:
What made u ever think that?
Boone
My bad.
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 06:56:20 PM
Marquette shot fine. But I agree that the defensive adjustments were the issue.
Open shots missed...wide open shots too many missed.
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 03, 2022, 07:54:25 PM
Open shots missed...wide open shots too many missed.
Eh. I mean OK. They shot above their season average from both 2 and 3. Problem was their defense.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 06:42:28 PM
wades
I used to think you were knowledgeable on the game, what happened to you? Defense does travel and continue to improve defensively.
Defended Wojo for 7 years, thought h had the chops to turn us into "Duke North".
Regularly criticizes Shaka's recruiting and coaching.
Thought we had no chance at the tournament this year. Now thinks we have a chance only if Sean Jones is our best player (he's not and won't be this year at least).
I don't think he really believes any of this nonsense - at least I hope so. But he was all in on our previous coach and he (Wade's) is kinda stubborn once he goes on record.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2022, 08:16:58 PM
Defended Wojo for 7 years, thought h had the chops to turn us into "Duke North".
Regularly criticizes Shaka's recruiting and coaching.
Thought we had no chance at the tournament this year. Now thinks we have a chance only if Sean Jones is our best player (he's not and won't be this year at least).
I don't think he really believes any of this nonsense - at least I hope so. But he was all in on our previous coach and he (Wade's) is kinda stubborn once he goes on record.
Of course Lennys wakes up just in time to remember his password and log on to rag on wades.
So very Chicos.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2022, 08:16:58 PM
Defended Wojo for 7 years, thought h had the chops to turn us into "Duke North".
Regularly criticizes Shaka's recruiting and coaching.
Thought we had no chance at the tournament this year. Now thinks we have a chance only if Sean Jones is our best player (he's not and won't be this year at least).
I don't think he really believes any of this nonsense - at least I hope so. But he was all in on our previous coach and he (Wade's) is kinda stubborn once he goes on record.
Actually I was one of the few that thought we'd be a bubble team going into last season. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!
By the way, way to call out those people who were wrong in their predictions today like you did Tuesday, after not making a prediction of your own!
Spineless.
Why did we continue to run the fake man to man press instead of the diamond we saw VS Baylor
Quote from: wadesworld on December 03, 2022, 08:22:35 PM
Actually I was one of the few that thought we'd be a bubble team going into last season. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!
By the way, way to call out those people who were wrong in their predictions today like you did Tuesday, after not making a prediction of your own!
Spineless.
Yep.
wades
I am pretty sure you were raised to respect people and you have lost that respect. Don't be a knob.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 08:25:14 PM
wades
I am pretty sure you were raised to respect people and you have lost that respect. Don't be a knob.
LOL what?
Lenny's is AWOL all day and logs on specifically to call on wades? Respect is earned, not granted. And he's done very little to earn it.
Something most fans have been worried about is how MU is going to handle large post players. We now know. Aggressive double teams. In the second half, without the evil Chucky doll with the big daggers, MU's rotation improved. A couple of camera shots showed really great weak side rotation with the double.
Wiscy made 3's and did something really out of character by attacking the offensive boards.
The only thing to do now is learn and improve.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 08:25:14 PM
wades
I am pretty sure you were raised to respect people and you have lost that respect. Don't be a knob.
I hit the family lottery. I'm comfortable with who I am. And I'm pretty confident my parents are proud of the person they've raised. But none of that has anything to do with MUBB.
sultan
I have not responded to you in ages, but a couple of comments:
1. You do know ball.
2. I believe wades was raised 10000% by a great family and he should not be a dick.
3. Lenny is a very good man and has been a great fan a long time. You may not like him, but your loss.
Double post, sorry
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 08:32:38 PM
sultan
I have not responded to you in ages, but a couple of comments:
1. You do know ball.
2. I believe wades was raised 10000% by a great family and he should not be a dick.
3. Lenny is a very good man and has been a great fan a long time. You may not like him, but your loss.
1. Thank you. I think you and I are in complete agreement about where the program is heading.
2. Absolutely.
3. I'm sure he is a good guy. But he gets a little to obsessed with people here at times and it makes him look a little petty.
Quote from: tower912 on December 03, 2022, 08:27:44 PM
Something most fans have been worried about is how MU is going to handle large post players. We now know. Aggressive double teams. In the second half, without the evil Chucky doll with the big daggers, MU's rotation improved. A couple of camera shots showed really great weak side rotation with the double.
Wiscy made 3's and did something really out of character by attacking the offensive boards.
The only thing to do now is learn and improve.
I was wondering about the doubles as well. Shaka said in the post game that statistically it makes more sense to throw doubles at big guys (don't quote me on that). He added he thought the rotations were better in the 2nd half. If crowl is going to score 30 on turn around hooks, would have been fine by me.
Quote from: MUDPT on December 03, 2022, 08:38:33 PM
I was wondering about the doubles as well. Shaka said in the post game that statistically it makes more sense to throw doubles at big guys (don't quote me on that). He added he thought the rotations were better in the 2nd half. If crowl is going to score 30 on turn around hooks, would have been fine by me.
I thought the doubles were great against Edey. I thought they were bad tonight (at least in the first half) because they all came at the exact same time (first dribble) from the exact same spot (strong side wing). It's not hard to beat a defense when you know exactly what, when, and where the scheme is coming from.
wades
You started a wedding thread on here and what you are doing spending your Saturday night being negative on scoop. I would hope you have better things to be doing.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 08:49:08 PM
wades
You started a wedding thread on here and what you are doing spending your Saturday night being negative on scoop. I would hope you have better things to be doing.
She's at work. I'm certainly not making any wedding plans without her. Just watching some college football. Thank you for the concern though.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 03, 2022, 08:50:23 PM
She's at work. I'm certainly not making any wedding plans without her. Just watching some college football. Thank you for the concern though.
I hope you are folding the laundry while watching. Did the judge get to the game?
sir
He is folding laundry and likely on the judge.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on December 03, 2022, 08:53:14 PM
I hope you are folding the laundry while watching. Did the judge get to the game?
Darks were done Thursday! She asked me to wait to do the lights until tomorrow.
I believe the judge was at the game today. Guessing he wasn't thrilled!
Maybe someday I'll know so much ball that I make weird jokes about people's personal lives too...
Rocky
I would not bet on that.
I mean, is there a problem with folding laundry?
This place gets strange sometimes.
I do 99% of the laundry in my house. I don't get the negativity, either.
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
I mean, is there a problem with folding laundry?
This place gets strange sometimes.
One of the chores I actually don't mind at all. Very, very easy chore and wins you some points. Plus, she's got about 20x the clothes I do, so she can last much longer without the laundry getting done. And she works much harder/longer hours than me, so something easy for me to give a little back. What can I say, I outkicked my coverage. Thank god she wanted those governmental benefits we get by being married!
Rocky
You got me. Arby's.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:10:23 PM
You got me. Arby's.
Also, I hope I don't stoop to making fun of people's personal lives like you do
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 08:36:07 PM
3. I'm sure he is a good guy. But he gets a little too obsessed with people here at times and it makes him look a little petty.
Obsessed? Petty?
Sweet, sweet irony.
Not really.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2022, 09:13:37 PM
Obsessed? Petty?
Sweet, sweet irony.
You should be more self-aware.
I'm folding my grandkids laundry right now. Tiny stuff is hard to fold. And don't get me started on these swaddling thingies.
Rocky
For the record, I like wades. If you think I make a habit of ever questioning anyones personal life you are factually incorrect.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:17:23 PM
For the record, I like wades. If you think I make a habit of ever questioning anyones personal life you are factually incorrect.
Perhaps a few posts ago is an outlier. Be better!
Sir
I have folded more laundry in the last month than my entire life. Actually, I have enjoyed helping and will continue helping out in the future.
I have to say, being a grandpa is the greatest thing in the world. My granddaughter sent me a video after the game saying "go Bucky" and I watched it twenty times.
Rocky
Read posts without bias.
Lol
Rocky
Aside from you, please point out how I am biased on scoop. I love talking "ball" and excited about the program. Truthfully, I have zero idea on how I have shown bias or negative comments.
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 09:16:27 PM
You should be more self-aware.
Perhaps. And perhaps you shouldn't be such an insufferable know it all and dick. But we all have our crosses to bear.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2022, 09:25:34 PM
Perhaps. And perhaps you shouldn't be such an insufferable know it all and dick. But we all have our crosses to bear.
Nah, I'm good. Thanks though.
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 09:26:51 PM
Nah, I'm good. Thanks though.
Nah, you're not. But you're welcome nevertheless.
Lenny
I miss you. Up north for the holidays? We need a MS.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:25:09 PM
I love talking "ball" and excited about the program.
I've mentioned this before...Stick to that.
Rocky
Please explain that comment.
Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 03, 2022, 08:26:49 PM
LOL what?
Lenny's is AWOL all day and logs on specifically to call on wades? Respect is earned, not granted. And he's done very little to earn it.
?
AWOL all day? Played golf at 12:30 (Eastern). Finished just in time for the tip off. Went to dinner with my wife, two daughters and three granddaughters immediately after the game - they are here visiting. When I came home I logged in and joined the fun.
Cheap shot without knowing the facts. The Sultan know it all special.
Newsie
Is that Rocky's reply? I will gladly bow out on any conversation if I am a negative poster. Please explain the LOL.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:49:14 PM
Newsie
Is that Rocky's reply? I will gladly bow out on any conversation if I am a negative poster. Please explain the LOL.
You're seriously asking for an explanation by Rocky?
Yes, I am asking what topics I should comment on and ones not comment on.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:53:03 PM
Yes, I am asking what topics I should comment on and ones not comment on.
Ooook
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 03, 2022, 09:41:35 PM
?
AWOL all day? Played golf at 12:30 (Eastern). Finished just in time for the tip off. Went to dinner with my wife, two daughters and three granddaughters immediately after the game - they are here visiting. When I came home I logged in and joined the fun.
Cheap shot without knowing the facts. The Sultan know it all special.
How was the tapioca?
Newsie
I would like to believe you are better than that. I have friends in here that say good
things about you and will gladly bow out any thread if you explain reason behind it.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:29:36 PM
Lenny
I miss you. Up north for the holidays? We need a MS.
Goose
Austin for 4 days, then Chicago for 4 - won't have time to make to Milwaukee. This winter in Naples?
Lenny
See you in February
I'm the bad parent that grounds you. Not the one the one explains what you've done wrong, or how to be better (and I actually already did that).
Rocky
You are not honest. That is your right. Happy holidays.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 10:14:13 PM
You are not honest. That is your right. Happy holidays.
Interesting feedback. I happen to know I'm one of the most honest people on the planet, and I don't share much, but don't think I change my persona here. Guess I need to work on it.
Rocky
What does that mean? I have never hid who I am or hide anything. What persona have I been hiding?
I said nothing about you Goose. For your own dignity I suggest you stop posting this evening.
Quote from: Goose on December 03, 2022, 09:59:19 PM
Newsie
I would like to believe you are better than that. I have friends in here that say good
things about you and will gladly bow out any thread if you explain reason behind it.
I think it was very straightforward by Rocky that is all. And don't believe those who say good things about me, I'm a very nasty guy...
Newsie
Noted on what others have said about you.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 03, 2022, 09:02:52 PM
Maybe someday I'll know so much ball that I make weird jokes about people's personal lives too...
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This is a weird thread
May I suggest that you guys send each other some pm's where you actually state what upsets you.