Let the hot takes begin.
Mississippi Burning is among my 10 favorite films.
Wrightsil out.
Dude mae bea a dry well, hey?
I know the guy on the right who just leaned into the picture with the #1 finger
Here. We. Go.
Kolek with a picturesque frustration foul.
Remind me which on the lines is the 3pt line
Our defense tries hard, but I'll say it again...we don't actually stop anybody.
Oso sleeping so far
Oso, if youre gonna stand wide open under the hoop, you kinda gotta look for the ball
Thatta boy Kam! Good hard double. Let's go now!
Start the bus and get NIT tickets printed
WE GOT THIS!
Quote from: MUUWUWM on November 21, 2022, 07:49:14 PM
WE GOT THIS!
Not if they keep allowing baskets on every possession.
Kam has taken all 4 shots. That's not gonna work.
It's gotta be more than Kam offensively.
Is anyone besides Kam going to take a shot?
Even Joplin was thinking "what the hell Oso?"
Kolek stuffed down low, kicks to OMax, clank. Seen those things happen a lot.
Also, get rid of the charge. That is absolutely garbage basketball. Not a charge at all.
Our h-c offense isn't good through 6 mins.
ugh flop...
If thats a charge they should just abolish basketball
What a joke
The offense didn't make the trip to Florida
Blaming the refs has arrived early!
Can't hit a 3. Ugly
I could do with something other than a pull-up 3 from Kolek in 5 on 3 situations.
feels like 4ever since tyler hit one
The trapping has been pretty good. Offensively it's just painful to watch. Time to wake up. Move the rock and attack!
Defense is fine... forcing msu to make threes is smart... offense has been poor.
We really are not a good shooting team..streaky at best.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2022, 07:55:38 PM
If thats a charge they should just abolish basketball
What a joke
It's a charge and always will be.
A game like this is why TyKo can't only be a passing pg
Ross is going to be so good!
Shaka chooses to not recruit shooters.
This is what you get.
Quote from: DoctorV on November 21, 2022, 07:58:50 PM
A game like this is why TyKo can't only be a passing pg
Needs to score. It's 4v5 when he can't shoot
Wow...just putrid offense
All the Jokes aside. We actually might not score 50.
This is putrid.
1-7 from 3. Not scored in 5 mins. Not going to hit 50.
ugly.
Really dont have an offense that knows how to get a good shot...too few true playmakers.
Quote from: PointWarrior on November 21, 2022, 07:57:17 PM
Can't hit a 3. Ugly
What were you expecting? We will see how many they jack up tonight, but Shaka's system.
Typical MU scoring drought, two points in over 9 minutes. Two points.
5pts in 9+ mins. Truly incredible. Try to get some shots in the paint. Use the shot fake.
LOVED the Purdue gameplan and execution for about 30 minutes of the game. Hate the gameplan tonight...is there one?
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2022, 08:01:24 PM
All the Jokes aside. We actually might not score 50 20
This is putrid.
Fify
Yea might have to get out and run and continue to run to get easy buckets in this one.
Shaka might want to try a lineup with both Kolek and Sean.
Going to need the speed and creativity to get easier shots
This offense plus poor rebounding means this could get very ugly.
Quote from: MUUWUWM on November 21, 2022, 08:02:23 PM
Really dont have an offense that knows how to get a good shot...too few true playmakers.
Exactly. I've discussed this ad nauseum.
On the bright side, MUScoop has set a record number of uses of "putrid" in one chat
Maybe kam can hit 15 3's
We need a couple strong guys, we're playing football players
OMAX!!
This is just sad
They had 4 offensive rebounds on that possession
Oso and Omax looked so tall the last couple games and both look about 5'10" tonight
We don't have a h-c offense!!
one on one bs....learn to pass
Will we break 20???
Ger a fking basket! NOW!!
We are behind pace to score double digits for the 1st half
Might not score 25
PAINT TOUCHES!!!!!
BAM!! That could open the floodgates!
We need a couple strong guys, we're playing football players
That was two points in eleven minutes. How is that possible.....
7 pts in 12 min impressive
MU fans stepping up!! Let go now!!
Maybe that bloody nose will unleash a new Oso.
Maybe we just needed to bleed a little to wake up
Incredibly we're only down 5.
2 possession game. Hard to believe. MSU might not score 50 either.
MS State defense is really good..but we're also playing good D. Slugfest of a game.
Better to start slow and finish strong. Think we'll see a better second half. Need to hang in there now though.
Could be worse, like the game v UNC in March worse.
For the love of god hit an open jump shot
Man.....wide open corner 3.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2022, 08:10:06 PM
Incredibly we're only down 5.
Cuz they're working hard on D. If the O doesn't pick up, they'll wear out.
Just like vs Purude, OMax clanks the wide open corner 3.
Its the easiest shot in the game, learn how to make it.
Mitchell with a wide open corner 3!!
Airball.
That was a good pass by Osa to Stevie. Red to get inside and draw fouls. That was a breath of fresh air
Beyond brutal. Gotta find a way to shake off the putrid shooting.
Now Stevie ariballs the wide open corner 3.
I just dont get it.
Not expecting to make curry 3s.
Mississippi State has been the tougher team. In a slopfest like this, that's how you find your winning team.
Reed flipping himself up off the floor has been the most athletic move of this game
Open 3s aren't good shots for a team that can't shoot 3s. There's a reason we get so many. It's called a scouting report.
this js a joke... wtf kam
Omax is so damn soft with the ball. Ruined a good O rebound.
And Kam is just launching prayers
Wow! Can't buy a bucket.
Good thing Miss State can't shoot either.
The North Carolina game was over before I was able to leave work so this is the worst offensive performance I've witnessed in quite a while
Who cares about shooting, when these are such great "culture" guys?
We've missed our last 5 WIDE OPEN threes. 1-11 is a problem. And we don't attack the paint enough.
10 points in the first half. My daughters team can do that!!
#3 was 2-13 on 3's coming into this game. We've had 3 good corner 3 looks and missed them all. Kam needs to stop hoisting from 28 feet early in the shot clock.
We have no football program. We spend millions om basketball.
We have 10 points
not a good shooting team period..too streaky.
1/12 clankfest and 10 whole f'ing points.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
Open 3s aren't good shots for a team that can't shoot 3s. There's a reason we get so many. It's called a scouting report.
Hey, 1 for 12 with four minutes to go, not bad. But they will keep trying, long as coach agrees.
You don't want to know the rebounding discrepancies.
Sean Jones and Joplin yanked real quick tonight.
This is how they usually look in the NCAA tournament.
I'm out on this game. Bedtime.
Go Marquette.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 21, 2022, 08:13:50 PM
Cuz they're working hard on D. If the O doesn't pick up, they'll wear out.
100% right. We ate on the verge of getting blown out if we don't find a way to score the ball.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
Open 3s aren't good shots for a team that can't shoot 3s. There's a reason we get so many. It's called a scouting report.
Lol. Another gem of a basketball hot take from you.
Ugly offense! Whats Shaka trying to do, only steve took it to the hoop
Gotta rebound. We're Getting stops, but can't stop the possession. 6 ORB in the first half is inexcusable
Holy cow, assuming the guy in the stands with the Marquette #1 jersey is Kam's dad, they look exactly like each other
This is gonna be a pretty big hot take, but this kinda seems to me like the type of game MU comes back to win, IF they can make a little run within half to keep it within 7 or so.
Marquette is obviously a streaky team and we are getting plenty of decent looks from 3, once one drops several probably will. Mississippi state isn't an offensive juggernaut either.
Still, a pretty bad sign that the team goes so stagnant when shots aren't falling
Sloppy with the ball, and can't hit open shots. Getting decent looks. Enough. Man. Have to hit. Regression to the mean is on our side lol
Keep fighting. Finally made a shot!
Get on the floor when you punch it away from him. Freshman!!
All that defense and then allow the 3. Wow
Oso is completely overmatched tonight.
We'll take it!! Finger-roll.
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 21, 2022, 08:26:37 PM
Oso is completely overmatched tonight.
Really rough half for him.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 21, 2022, 08:21:54 PM
Lol. Another gem of a basketball hot take from you.
Who can shoot? Painter literally said as much in his post game press conference. Straight up just said we were willing to give up certain shots and betting they wouldn't make them.
D is fantastic.
Unfortunately it usually leads to us shooting an airball
More Sean tonight
Is there a draft on these corner triples?? WTF??
Air balls from the corner are NOT acceptable.
Dick Bennett somewhere saying "how do like me now"
Amazing to be only down 6.
Love the energy, love the defense, hate the shooting.
What a half. Yikes
jesus joplin is either way on or way off. no inbetween
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Joplin.... be consistent for once....
Sincerely,
Marquette fans
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2022, 08:31:18 PM
Amazing to be only down 6.
Still in the game.
Need to play much better to win it.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:28:38 PM
Who can shoot? Painter literally said as much in his post game press conference. Straight up just said we were willing to give up certain shots and betting they wouldn't make them.
Dude..if we are even at our season average 3 point shooting this is a tied game. Kam is a better shooter than he's shown so far. Ross has a good stroke. Joplin. Kolek will shoot 35-40% from 3 this year. Ben Gold has also has a good stroke.
Your boy Wojo had some of the most prolific 3 point shooters in school history in Markus, Rowsey and Sam...but...MS State would absolutely be pummeling Wojo's Charmin soft teams.
Joplin has been very consistent tonight so far.
Joplin, Oso and Omax equals zero points. Zero
2 for 14 from three.
MSU winning boards. Turnovers even.
Went eleven minutes scoring two points.
Again, comes down to coaches philosophy of making threes and Seth Curry not coming off the bench. Maybe in second.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 21, 2022, 08:34:58 PM
Dude..if we are even at our season average 3 point shooting this is a tied game. Kam is a better shooter than he's shown so far. Ross has a good stroke. Joplin. Kolek will shoot 35-40% from 3 this year. Ben Gold has also has a good stroke.
Your boy Wojo had some of the most prolific 3 point shooters in school history in Markus, Rowsey and Sam...but...MS State would absolutely be pummeling Wojo's Charmin soft teams.
Kolek 35-40% from 3 this year? Sheesh do I hope you're right. I'll put a good amount of money to a charity of the winner's choosing on Kolek under 35% from 3 this year and I'll hope to have to pay up. In?
We returned 2 players that shot over 31% from three last year. One of the two attempted 0.6 three pointers per game. I don't know what to tell you. You know more than Painter too clearly.
Don't care what Wojo's teams would've done. I'd guess more than 17 points in the half, but you know better so maybe not. I want Shaka to bring in more talent than he has. Some see OMax, Ben Gold, Oso, and others as NBA guys. Good thing I'm a basketball idiot, because I'm not one of those guys.
I thought we were suppose to be the quicker team.
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Quote from: nyg on November 21, 2022, 08:35:41 PM
Joplin, Oso and Omax equals zero points. Zero
2 for 14 from three.
MSU winning boards. Turnovers even.
Went eleven minutes scoring two points.
Again, comes down to coaches philosophy of making threes and Seth Curry not coming off the bench. Maybe in second.
I think we can get the 8 foot shot in the lane but we don't attempt those.
F minus 1st half and only down 6.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 21, 2022, 08:21:54 PM
Lol. Another gem of a basketball hot take from you.
He actually might be onto something here.
Seems as if teams are ok letting MU take the outside shot. Aside from Kam and Jop other teams probably think there aren't many that can hurt you.
That's why TyKo and OMax are so huge. Those two need to be respectable from 3 to open up defenses, or else this team will really struggle offensively and the season could be sunk.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
Open 3s aren't good shots for a team that can't shoot 3s. There's a reason we get so many. It's called a scouting report.
MSU has been a worse 3P shooting team than us. So I assume every 3 they have made has also been a bad shot.
Quote from: BM1090 on November 21, 2022, 08:39:52 PM
MSU has been a worse 3P shooting team than us. So I assume every 3 they have made has also been a bad shot.
Not the one we decided our side out of bounds defense with 2 seconds left on the shot clock would be to put nobody within 20 feet of the guy standing right at the top of the key.
On the positive side, we can't shoot any worse in the second half...or can we? 😞
Quote from: DoctorV on November 21, 2022, 08:38:31 PM
He actually might be onto something here.
Seems as if teams are ok letting MU take the outside shot. Aside from Kam and Jop other teams probably think there aren't many that can hurt you.
That's why TyKo and OMax are so huge. Those two need to be respectable from 3 to open up defenses, or else this team will really struggle offensively and the season could be sunk.
Versus a set defense in the half-court I'm not really sure where we a trying to get the most optimal shot Dr. V. It's either a drive and kick or one on one launches.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on November 21, 2022, 08:41:38 PM
On the positive side, we can't shoot any worse in the second half...or can we? 😞
Complete meltdown would ensue, Armageddon
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
Kolek 35-40% from 3 this year? Sheesh do I hope you're right.
We returned 2 players that shot over 31% from three last year. One of the two attempted 0.6 three pointers per game. I don't know what to tell you. You know more than Painter too clearly.
215th in the nation in 3-point percentage and 48 % of the shots come from 3. When the shots aren't falling, it's going to be very ugly. They need to generate offense off turnovers if the 3's aren't falling or there will be ugly half's of basketball. What you're stating isn't wrong
A team called Omaha scored 60 against Iowa.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 21, 2022, 08:34:58 PM
Dude..if we are even at our season average 3 point shooting this is a tied game. Kam is a better shooter than he's shown so far. Ross has a good stroke. Joplin. Kolek will shoot 35-40% from 3 this year. Ben Gold has also has a good stroke.
Your boy Wojo had some of the most prolific 3 point shooters in school history in Markus, Rowsey and Sam...but...MS State would absolutely be pummeling Wojo's Charmin soft teams.
Kolek will not shoot 35%_40% from 3 this year. Very loose delivery.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on November 21, 2022, 08:41:38 PM
On the positive side, we can't shoot any worse in the second half...or can we? 😞
Sure we could, but I think the ball for MU will start to go through the hoop.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
Kolek 35-40% from 3 this year? Sheesh do I hope you're right.
We returned 2 players that shot over 31% from three last year. One of the two attempted 0.6 three pointers per game. I don't know what to tell you. You know more than Painter too clearly.
Don't care what Wojo's teams would've done. I'd guess more than 17 points in the half, but you know better so maybe not. I want Shaka to bring in more talent than he has. Some see OMax, Ben Gold, Oso, and others as NBA guys. Good thing I'm a basketball idiot, because I'm not one of those guys.
Please link where Painter said our team couldn't shoot..specific time of his press conference. I believe he mentioned wanting to make Kolek a shooter and not a passer. Which of course any coach would as Tyler makes our offense so efficient with his passing.
We are 2 years in to the Shaka era FFS. You were worshipping Wojo for 5 full years. I believe we finished 84th in the country after 7 years of Wojo. A solid 97th in Year 2 of his tenure.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2022, 08:42:35 PM
Versus a set defense in the half-court I'm not really sure where we a trying to get the most optimal shot Dr. V. It's either a drive and kick or one on one launches.
Yea Muggs it's rough out there.
I don't know the answer, but it's likely that Shaka might not even know.
Tyler is a great distributor but not fleet of foot. Sean is fleet of foot but not a great distributor just yet.
Seeing Tyler his that shot felt great.
The others have strengths, but very incomplete offensive games.
I'd say it has to be game by game until Shaka figures it out.
Today seems like it's got to be hit the 3 to win, or take the L
MissSt is too good defensively for any other way
Marquette entered the night 3rd in the nation in A/FGM and only have 2 assists tonight. It's one of those nights
so tired of bad shots.
2
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 21, 2022, 08:45:16 PM
Please link where Painter said our team couldn't shoot..specific time of his press conference. I believe he mentioned wanting to make Kolek a shooter and not a passer. Which of course any coach would as Tyler makes our offense so efficient with his passing.
We are 2 years in to the Shaka era FFS. You were worshipping Wojo for 5 full years. I believe we finished 84th in the country after 7 years of Wojo. A solid 97th in Year 2 of his tenure.
Again. Don't care about Wojo anymore. Shaka is running our program. I've moved on. If you want to discuss him I'd take the over 17 first half points by a Wojo team tonight but who knows.
I'd take Kolek under 35% from 3 on the year for a good amount of money to the charity of the winner's choice. You want the over? I hope to have to pay out.
Two good shots to start the half. Let's go now.
Where can I place a bet on Kolek shooting 35%+ from 3 for the season?
KAM JONES SHOOTS A FREE THROW, What an omen
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 21, 2022, 08:47:14 PM
Marquette entered the night 3rd in the nation in A/FGM and only have 2 assists tonight. It's one of those nights
Might not have been lowered our A/FGM ratio, though.
Kam is so clever going to the hoop - need more of that from him.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 08:48:39 PM
Might not have been lowered our A/FGM ratio, though.
Couple of thoughts, Bulldogs are playing good defense and it's an atypical night shooting. Small sample size and all
Rafftery drinking jokes aren't as funny as they were the first couple hundred times we heard them
Let's go now!!
Kam it's not your night
Wow.... We can't hit too many threes. Drive. It was working.
Really frustrating. You cannot pick up that foul there.
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 21, 2022, 08:52:37 PM
Kam it's not your night
No, but he's gonna keep having them up...👀
maybe Jones needs to make a pass once in awhile vs shooting
OMax and Oso can't be zeroes on offense. At least OMax has 3 picks
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 21, 2022, 08:52:37 PM
Kam it's not your night
whoof. Yea he is all kinds of off tonight. Open too.
The dumb offensive is back from the 1st half
Good lord Kam is a chucker (and not in a good way)
That's an insane shot by Kolek. Take the 7 footer. Fk.
Kam. Wow. I expected so much. I know 3's are streaky but boy not good. I wish he could learn to drive. See it go through the hoop then start jacking the 3s
Went from possibly going up 2 to down 7. So frustrating
Ugly shots
I'd sit cam for a bit and a little talking to. If he's off shooting 3s then drive. We need to draw some fouls to stay in this. So drive:
Quote from: PointWarrior on November 21, 2022, 08:55:48 PM
Went from possibly going up 2 to down 7. So frustrating
Lost the four minutes out of half. Terrible sequence
We're down 1, OMax misses a 4 footer and then Kam misses a wide open 3. Since then it's been a s-show with poor discipline on both ends of the floor. Focus.
Horrible offense
People still feeling like this year's team is better than last year's team?
Quote from: Hoops92 on November 21, 2022, 08:56:53 PM
People still feeling like this year's team is better than last year's team?
Early season looks the same
0
0
0
Oso
O-Max
Jop
Can't win with those stats.
Quote from: Daniel on November 21, 2022, 08:53:29 PM
Wow.... We can't hit too many threes. Drive. It was working.
Come on Dan, Omax and just now Kolek missed two footers.
Got it within two, then jack up some threes. 3 for 19 now. Shaka jokes about Kam "shooting from the moon" and " he doesn't know where the line is". Most coaches would bench a guy for chucking it up.
OMax finally
Wow, I was actually cheering the defense on Kam preventing him from shooting and the possession resulted in an Omax 3
Kam Jones is no Markus Howard.
Good drive from DJop. We're right there.
Quote from: NCMUFan on November 21, 2022, 09:00:19 PM
Cam Jones is no Markus Howard.
Nope. Interesting comparison for a lot of reasons
NICE!!
Oso it's not your offensive night
But keep the defense up
Jop gets the trash charge call now.
Bad force there by TK. Calm down and get a good shot. Let's go now! Time to seize this game.
YES!! Attack the rack!!
Second half a lot more fun. Great effort.
MU fans bringing it!! Let's get take the lead and get this one! Much better offense in the 2nd half.
Well we got a ballgame.
Lol, they've nearly hit the first half total in 8 minutes of the second half
I would prefer this end in a win, but how about, no matter what the outcome, we all agree to never speak of this game again after tonight
Starts with the defense.
Finish with the offense.
We got this.
Won that 4 minute stretch. Pretty gutsy stretch, give them that
I can't believe there's 12 minutes left. Feels like this game has been 6 hours long.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
Second half a lot more fun. Great effort.
Waaaa..but we only had 17 first half points. I want Shaka to land Top 50 players. I don't care if we play great defense. Personally I like watching a team that is tough AF.
I think it's time for Rafferty to retire.
I kinda feel like Oso's parents because I want him to score
Quote from: Elonsmusk on November 21, 2022, 09:09:00 PM
Waaaa..but we only had 17 first half points. I want Shaka to land Top 50 players. I don't care if we play great defense. Personally I like watching a team that is tough AF.
I'd enjoy games where we have more than 33 points nearly 30 minutes into the game.
BAM!! Count that!!
Flop!!!! FK.
Get. Rid. Of. The. Charge.
Trash basketball.
Wow
Hello!!
That was filthy.
Gotta clean the glass.
Offense much smoother w Sean Jones running the show tonight
No, No, No....I mean Yes!
Yes....nooooo
God, I love Stevie's D.
Kam too much of a chucker for me.
Attack the paint, move the ball, play with confidence, look for high percentage shots.
Love omax's effort but he's so out of control when he has the ball. Moving way too fast.
I'm not sure what commercials you mopes are seeing but for me — why does sketchers think they invented the loafer?
We need this W
What do we call that Sean Jones reverse lay-up?
Niceeeee!!
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2022, 09:17:54 PM
What do we call that Sean Jones reverse lay-up?
Repeatable
Wow Sean
What?? Isn't that our ball??
11's form looks like it's going to come up short every time. I wish that was true
Up 4 with ball, pass around for 22 seconds and Kam shoots 30 footer, then MSU hits three. That possession hurt. Great comeback, but some more threes got to go in.
Much better job of attacking the paint this half.
BIg 3 by TK after a unconscionable turn. Stop driving into the teeth of the D. Either keep your dribble or take the wide open 6-8 footer. Have to find a way to get the W.
And if Trent can convince people he can hit 3's it'll make drives and kicks easier.
Quote from: MuggsyB on November 21, 2022, 09:25:16 PM
BIg 3 by TK after a unconscionable turn. Stop driving into the teeth of the D. Either keep your dribble or take the wide open 6-8 footer. Have to find a way to get the W.
Or what?
Dumb
Why??? Value the basketball!
Can we execute down the stretch??
strange game
Down 1 and a terrible pass by Kolek. That usually initiates the end of game down turn.
Three Kolek turnovers in last few minutes are killers, now Oso with four fouls. Ouch.... Not good.
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 21, 2022, 09:26:51 PM
Or what?
well if you are gonna expect them to do anything this season they are gonna have to get some quality non con wins at some point right?
TK with 4 turn overs and 2 assists tonight
Quote from: nyg on November 21, 2022, 09:29:37 PM
Three Kolek turnovers in last few minutes are killers, now Oso with four fouls. Ouch.... Not good.
Brutal. And all of those turns were nonsensical.
WTF was that?
Big Time Bill Raferty.
No way, he is amusing to listen to.
KOLEK!! Now get a reb.
Bull crap
Wasn't that a 3 by Kolek? Watched it twice, but it's 50-51.
FKING BSHT!!
Lol these charges. Just ruined basketball.
how does that happen out there so much
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on November 21, 2022, 09:35:14 PM
Wasn't that a 3 by Kolek? Watched it twice, but it's 50-51.
Yes. They better look at that.
Crunch time....can we do this....and a turnover
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2022, 09:35:42 PM
Yes. They better look at that.
His foot was over the third line but I don't know which is the right line
Wow.. Crazy stuff. Needed a time-out sooner.
Omax has zero court awareness.
Omax with a terrible game tonight, all around!
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 21, 2022, 09:36:39 PM
His foot was over the third line but I don't know which is the right line
Ok, then it wasn't. I thought it was the 2nd.
I thought that was a 3 by TK?
Omax got fouled. But gotta be more aware
Bad decision. Bad, bad, bad, bad decision. Fk.
Kolek airballs a layup
Kolek is an abomination driving for lay ups.
Gonna fall short
Kolek have money on MS tonight?
loss stings alot.
Well, now we know how NOT to finish a game
Another airball from the guy MUScoop loves
Kolek turnover hurt bad, now missed layup. Oh boy. That's three turnovers in crunch time by him. Strange game.
lol jop with a carrer bad performance
Poise is a big issue for us. Very disappointing.
ANother airball
Just incredible
This is what "culture" gets you.
Think we are in for a lot of "can't finish a game" type losses this year.
I think we can say safely that closing games is not this team's strength.
Two winnable games coming in to the last 8 minutes and they stop scoring
Even in the Radford game they frittered away a big lead and let the game get uncomfortably close.
Sean likes the reverse lay-up.
why was jones not in and the one driving sooner?
Turnover and a 3!!! Cmon!!
Did they ever look at Kolek'a possible 3?
I turned it off. Make me pay for it...c'mon, do it
We're small, and can't really take advantage of it on the offensive end. I fear it's going to be a long season.
Not going to win many with 11 points total from Oso, Prosper, and Joplin.
3 seconds left, have to move the ball down the court via the pass. Kam Jones was maddening tonight.
Very frustrating loss on multiple levels. Lots of concern moving forward from my vantage point.
Embarrassing .
Good night
frustrating they dont even attempt.to pass up.court there. brutal loss. msu isnt that good
Good try by the good guys.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on November 21, 2022, 09:49:02 PM
3 seconds left, have to move the ball down the court via the pass. Kam Jones was maddening tonight.
Yeah I was surprised he took the ball from 90 feet and took a 3 quarter court shot. Thought they could have at least gotten a 40 footer.
team doesn't make enough winning plays down the stretch. lack of rebounding and shooting is not a good combination. not sold on shaka at all right now. I just don't see us being any good this year. for a basketball only school the lack of success for years and years is growing old
Predictable loss. Too much dead weight on bench. How does Shaka not see the need to recruit a rebounder?!?!
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 21, 2022, 09:50:47 PM
Yeah I was surprised he took the ball from 90 feet and took a 3 quarter court shot. Thought they could have at least gotten a 40 footer.
i really wasn't. no timeouts, a team with not the best basketball IQ, and lack of poise, plus a guy who likes to chuck shots.....
Quote from: Johnny B on November 21, 2022, 09:50:12 PM
frustrating they dont even attempt.to pass up.court there. brutal loss. msu isnt that good
Great point. The pass is faster than the dribble.
God bless Kate Abdo. Wow.
They've lost 2 close games to 2 likely NCAA teams. MU is a young team; leadership is still emerging. They could be getting fat on buy games, but they're playing good teams instead. Tough lessons in November will result in a wins in February. They'll be okay.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on November 21, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
They've lost 2 close games to 2 likely NCAA teams. MU is a young team; leadership is still emerging. They could be getting fat on buy games, but they're playing good teams instead. Tough lessons in November will result in a wins in February. They'll be okay.
Agree 100%
tough to lose two close games where we lead late in both. need a few non con wins. beat tech then go 2-1 against baylor, ND, and UW and its a solid non con season.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on November 21, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
They've lost 2 close games to 2 likely NCAA teams. MU is a young team; leadership is still emerging. They could be getting fat on buy games, but they're playing good teams instead. Tough lessons in November will result in a wins in February. They'll be okay.
Maybe...but I think it's hard to predict.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on November 21, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
They've lost 2 close games to 2 likely NCAA teams. MU is a young team; leadership is still emerging. They could be getting fat on buy games, but they're playing good teams instead. Tough lessons in November will result in a wins in February. They'll be okay.
the big east is down this year, need to pick up some quality wins now if you really expect this team to make the ncaa
Quote from: Warrior of Law on November 21, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
They've lost 2 close games to 2 likely NCAA teams. MU is a young team; leadership is still emerging. They could be getting fat on buy games, but they're playing good teams instead. Tough lessons in November will result in a wins in February. They'll be okay.
Eh I think this turns out to be a bad loss. SEC is super deep this year and I think Miss State gets swallowed in it. It's super important MU gets the win Wednesday.
Quote from: CountryRoads on November 21, 2022, 10:06:12 PM
Eh I think this turns out to be a bad loss. SEC is super deep this year and I think Miss State gets swallowed in it. It's super important MU gets the win Wednesday.
Ya.....I'm. leaning that way too.
Quote from: Boone on November 21, 2022, 09:53:18 PM
Predictable loss. Too much dead weight on bench. How does Shaka not see the need to recruit a rebounder?!?!
Someone who can create their own shot besides kam would be nice. Then an average rebounder. Shouldnt be too much of an ask. Shakas track record of bigs at texas not translating here and with no scholies left next year (one over), I dont see how we will fix this problem. Dont get me wrong im thrilled to recruit norman and lowery but jesus OMAX and Osos offense are killers!
Shaka has got to tell Kam to stop jacking up shots from 30 feet out. His shot selection is maddening.
There were some good things tonight, though. It was great to see Kolek make some threes. If he starts making shots, he becomes so much more valuable and defenses can drop back like they have. I also loved our defense tonight. Super aggressive and created a lot of turnovers. Lastly, Sean Jones is gonna be fun to watch. Let's get a win on Wednesday!
Quote from: Warrior of Law on November 21, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
They've lost 2 close games to 2 likely NCAA teams. MU is a young team; leadership is still emerging. They could be getting fat on buy games, but they're playing good teams instead. Tough lessons in November will result in a wins in February. They'll be okay.
Mississippi State is not a Tourney team.
Quote from: nyg on November 21, 2022, 08:58:50 PM
Come on Dan, Omax and just now Kolek missed two footers.
Got it within two, then jack up some threes. 3 for 19 now. Shaka jokes about Kam "shooting from the moon" and " he doesn't know where the line is". Most coaches would bench a guy for chucking it up.
This is true. Why does he allow him to shoot it from "outer space" as he said after last game.
There must be stats somewhere on teams that do not scorer for 5 minutes straight or longer and the percentage of those games they win. Anyone know?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 21, 2022, 10:36:12 PM
Mississippi State is not a Tourney team.
This seems pretty inaccurate.
Another 8-11 seed ala Purdue imo, which is problematic in that MU lost to both.
Metrics matta doe, and Marquette can pass them up by seasons end with some nice results
Dr. V,
It comes down to making open shots as you said. I think against both Purdue and Miss St. (notwithstanding Kam's forced ones) we got a lot of open looks. If we don't have the personnel make these J's there's no sugarcoating that we have a significant problem.