It's the preview Marquette fans have been waiting a decade for. Notre Dame is finally back on the schedule. Cracked Sidewalks looks at a resurgent Irish team.
https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2022/10/notre-dame-preview-2022-23.html?m=1
The real question is how many MU fans will travel to this one. I was shocked by the ticket availability when purchasing ours. I think there will be a lot of gold in the building!
ND Sucks
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
Quote from: mubb3434 on October 26, 2022, 08:11:27 AM
The real question is how many MU fans will travel to this one. I was shocked by the ticket availability when purchasing ours. I think there will be a lot of gold in the building!
Thanks Brew.
The half empty stadium for ND basketball games over the last several years is really pathetic. Hopefully MU fans take up those tickets and it's at least half MU fans if not more. The experience factor is the only problem with this game. All the red shirt seniors starting have had their moments over the last 5-6 years. If they put it all together they will be a tough team mentally to beat. Let's hope our athleticism on the defensive end overwhelms them leading to easy buckets.
Bump.
Quote from: tower912 on October 26, 2022, 08:27:25 AM
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
Doc got 'em in '81 and Michael Wilson started the MECCA party
Best game I attended while I was a student. By far.
Sam Worthen another MUBB hero vs Notre Dame in 1980.
Steve Novak vs ND in 2006.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcZz-er3pEE
Quote from: tower912 on October 26, 2022, 08:27:25 AM
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
Let's remind everyone of our reality of our time as MU students, Tower.
Tower, myself and David Rivers all started our freshman year in 84-85. Marquette had already lost the last two in the series versus ND.
MU played ND eight times in our four years. Like me, I'm sure Tower was at at least four of them (at the MECCA). MU lost all eight times. Here's where my animosity skews the reality of my memory, as I'm sure that David Rivers hit the winning shot in all eight games.
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
(MU went on to lose the next two after we graduated, running the ND streak to 12 straight wins before MU won in Dec '89.)
Further, as an out-of-state student, I never felt the same sense of rivalry against UW as I did against ND. (MU went 1-3 against Madison during our years, which pretty much just shows how much our team sucked those years.) This Sunday's game is more important to me to win than the UW game last week.
ND sucks, now and forever.
F***. I just looked even more closely at the games during our years. Here's the progression of ND's margin of victory in those 8 games:
1
6
2
8
10
12
18
22
Is there anyone who would deny that ND is evil? (And that the Majerus-Dukiet years were the absolute worst.)
Hmmm. Grind the pace, don't turn it over, shoot a lot of threes.
Hate to say it, but is sounds like last week (Rodents).
I thought after the Baylor rout that it would really be an accomplishment to beat Baylor & Wisconsin in the same week, and they weren't up to it.
Here's hoping that Shaka and staff have learned some things about how to deal with tedious, conservative play. The bonus is that ND is worse
on the O boards than we are.
We need this one.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 07, 2022, 08:07:55 PM
Hmmm. Grind the pace, don't turn it over, shoot a lot of threes.
Hate to say it, but is sounds like last week (Rodents).
I thought after the Baylor rout that it would really be an accomplishment to beat Baylor & Wisconsin in the same week, and they weren't up to it.
Here's hoping that Shaka and staff have learned some things about how to deal with tedious, conservative play. The bonus is that ND is worse
on the O boards than we are.
We need this one.
We just have to make a couple more shots than Radford, Lipscomb, BU, BG etc did against them at home. I don't think that's a tall order. ND shot 49% from 3 tonight and beat the Kenpom 254 ranked team BU by six. It's a broken record for ND. MU plays their average game they should win. ND is terrible. A loss would not be looked as a good loss by the NCAA committee.
As long as we stay healthy and no one comes down with any illness like so many players are across CBB are right now, I think we come home with a WIN!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 07, 2022, 08:27:11 PM
As long as we stay healthy and no one comes down with any illness like so many players are across CBB are right now, I think we come home with a WIN!
So you've now predicted a loss and a win in this game. You've got all your bases covered!
mug644, way to represent.
Quote from: mug644 on December 07, 2022, 07:46:14 PM
Let's remind everyone of our reality of our time as MU fans, Tower.
Tower, myself and David Rivers all started our freshman year in 84-85. Marquette had already lost the last two in the series versus ND.
MU played ND eight times in our four years. Like me, I'm sure Tower was at at least four of them (at the MECCA). MU lost all eight times. Here's where my animosity skews the reality of my memory, as I'm sure that David Rivers hit the winning shot in all eight games.
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
(MU went on to lose the next two after we graduated, running the ND streak to 12 straight wins before MU won in Dec '89.)
Further, as an out-of-state student, I never felt the same sense of rivalry against UW as I did against ND. (MU went 1-3 against Madison during our years, which pretty much just shows how much our team sucked those years.) This Sunday's game is more important to me to win than the UW game last week.
ND sucks, now and forever.
F***. I just looked even more closely at the games during our years. Here's the progression of ND's margin of victory in those 8 games:
1
6
2
8
10
12
18
22
Is there anyone who would deny that ND is evil? (And that the Majerus-Dukiet years were the absolute worst.)
I was at the 89 game when the court was stormed after beating ND. Can't believe in that short of time the program had sunk that low. How embarrassing. It's that decade (80s) that ND took a seemingly insurmountable overall winning record against us, basically winning twice yearly. They had it before that but those years cemented it.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 07, 2022, 08:48:43 PM
I was at the 89 game when the court was stormed after beating ND. Can't believe in that short of time the program had sunk that low. How embarrassing. It's that decade (80s) that ND took a seemingly insurmountable overall winning record against us, basically winning twice yearly. They had it before that but those years cemented it.
Studying the MU b-ball wiki page on ND (https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/notre_dame (https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/notre_dame)), my quick glance is that we've never had a run of more than 3 wins (and only 3 such runs), while ND has had two runs of 12 straight victories. Tough to be leading the overall series with such numbers.
ND sucks.
Quote from: mug644 on December 07, 2022, 09:10:51 PM
Studying the MU b-ball wiki page on ND (https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/notre_dame (https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/notre_dame)), my quick glance is that we've never had a run of more than 3 wins (and only 3 such runs), while ND has had two runs of 12 straight victories. Tough to be leading the overall series with such numbers.
ND sucks.
Yep.
Quote from: mug644 on December 07, 2022, 09:10:51 PM
Studying the MU b-ball wiki page on ND (https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/notre_dame (https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/notre_dame)), my quick glance is that we've never had a run of more than 3 wins (and only 3 such runs), while ND has had two runs of 12 straight victories. Tough to be leading the overall series with such numbers.
ND sucks.
I was at MU during one of those runs and even got to see MU beat them at SB, didn't pay, got in with fake press credentials.
Quote from: mug644 on December 07, 2022, 07:46:14 PM
Let's remind everyone of our reality of our time as MU students, Tower.
Tower, myself and David Rivers all started our freshman year in 84-85. Marquette had already lost the last two in the series versus ND.
MU played ND eight times in our four years. Like me, I'm sure Tower was at at least four of them (at the MECCA). MU lost all eight times. Here's where my animosity skews the reality of my memory, as I'm sure that David Rivers hit the winning shot in all eight games.
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
(MU went on to lose the next two after we graduated, running the ND streak to 12 straight wins before MU won in Dec '89.)
Further, as an out-of-state student, I never felt the same sense of rivalry against UW as I did against ND. (MU went 1-3 against Madison during our years, which pretty much just shows how much our team sucked those years.) This Sunday's game is more important to me to win than the UW game last week.
ND sucks, now and forever.
F***. I just looked even more closely at the games during our years. Here's the progression of ND's margin of victory in those 8 games:
1
6
2
8
10
12
18
22
Is there anyone who would deny that ND is evil? (And that the Majerus-Dukiet years were the absolute worst.)
I do not deny. Class of '86. We were 0-6 and all 6 games were close. I attended 2 at ND and 3 at MU. Every one of them was a gut punch.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 07, 2022, 08:23:05 PM
We just have to make a couple more shots than Radford, Lipscomb, BU, BG etc did against them at home. I don't think that's a tall order. ND shot 49% from 3 tonight and beat the Kenpom 254 ranked team BU by six. It's a broken record for ND. MU plays their average game they should win. ND is terrible. A loss would not be looked as a good loss by the NCAA committee.
ND isn't terrible and this will be a Q2 game, so a loss would not kill us.
If MU plays well, they should win.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 08, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
ND isn't terrible and this will be a Q2 game, so a loss would not kill us.
If MU plays well, they should win.
Ok not terrible. They are ok and a top 100 type of team. Hopefully we can beat that caliber of team. No loss is a total disaster so you're right the team should be ok.
But very good opportunity to beat a beatable team on the road.
I have confidence that Marquette is going into that building and coming home with the win. We are battle tested, we are desperate for a road win, we are more talented. Sometimes you just gotta put your foot down and just take a win. I expect this team to do that. Hopefully there is a strong MU presence on the road that can give them a jolt early.
I've watched a couple ND games this year. From what I've seen, they don't give up a lot at the rim but they do allow dribble penetration and kick outs for open shots.
Might be as simple as making our open shots.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 08, 2022, 04:39:39 PM
I have confidence that Marquette is going into that building and coming home with the win. We are battle tested, we are desperate for a road win, we are more talented. Sometimes you just gotta put your foot down and just take a win. I expect this team to do that. Hopefully there is a strong MU presence on the road that can give them a jolt early.
We lose by 23
Kiss of death
Quote from: BM1090 on December 08, 2022, 04:52:45 PM
I've watched a couple ND games this year. From what I've seen, they don't give up a lot at the rim but they do allow dribble penetration and kick outs for open shots.
Might be as simple as making our open shots.
They play a 7 man rotation and 1 of the 7 is just back from injury. They also don't play defense. Their shooters can get hot, but our athletes in the backcourt should cause issues for them.
Quote from: mug644 on December 07, 2022, 07:46:14 PM
Let's remind everyone of our reality of our time as MU students, Tower.
Tower, myself and David Rivers all started our freshman year in 84-85. Marquette had already lost the last two in the series versus ND.
MU played ND eight times in our four years. Like me, I'm sure Tower was at at least four of them (at the MECCA). MU lost all eight times. Here's where my animosity skews the reality of my memory, as I'm sure that David Rivers hit the winning shot in all eight games.
Damn you to hell, David Rivers.
(MU went on to lose the next two after we graduated, running the ND streak to 12 straight wins before MU won in Dec '89.)
Further, as an out-of-state student, I never felt the same sense of rivalry against UW as I did against ND. (MU went 1-3 against Madison during our years, which pretty much just shows how much our team sucked those years.) This Sunday's game is more important to me to win than the UW game last week.
ND sucks, now and forever.
F***. I just looked even more closely at the games during our years. Here's the progression of ND's margin of victory in those 8 games:
1
6
2
8
10
12
18
22
Is there anyone who would deny that ND is evil? (And that the Majerus-Dukiet years were the absolute worst.)
though I live in WI now, I grew up on the east coast in a Marquette family. I really hate Notre Dame. I was at MU '82-'86. It's a wonderful hate I have for ND. I mock them. I pity them. Smart enough to get admitted to ND, but dumb enough to actually attend? Please. I hate RED too, but RED was nothing to me until they followed our lead and got good. A healthy and at time consuming hate for RED...a psychotherapist worthy hate for ND.
Thx. I feel better now.
Game day bump. ND will try to grind the game down and win it at the arc. Marquette will want to run and eviscerate the shabby Irish defense.
If the Irish get their way, it's probably a game decided in the final possessions, but if Marquette gets running, it could get out of hand in the visitor's favor. A high major road win would be helpful in March.
I'm starting my day with eggs and leprechaun livers.
Viper
We were at MU at the same time and I really had forgotten how much I hated ND until the past couple of weeks. I grew up in MKE and my hate for UW was always high, followed by Kentucky. That being said, MU playing ND has always been something special to me. There was always that special buzz at Mecca or at BC when our hated rivals arrived to town and the games usually matched the buzz.
A tremendous amount of memories in this rivalry and I hope we literally blow them out of the gym today. I will never forget the day Austin Carr broke my heart, not the day that Doc broke their hearts.
LFG, MU!!!
If it is close, we'll need someone to step up and be a closer down the stretch - that is something we've been lacking.