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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: MuggsyB on June 28, 2022, 08:23:37 PM
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They're estimating it's 30K years old. And completely in tact. Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
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To what end?
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Already well underway.
https://reviverestore.org/projects/woolly-mammoth/ (https://reviverestore.org/projects/woolly-mammoth/)
They've raised over $60M for this project as of March.
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Already well underway.
https://reviverestore.org/projects/woolly-mammoth/ (https://reviverestore.org/projects/woolly-mammoth/)
They've raised over $60M for this project as of March.
Yes. This is a very serious consideration.
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They're estimating it's 30K years old. And completely in tact. Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
Absolutely we should . The technology is there
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Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.
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Good excuse to get a bigger smoker.
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Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.
I heard they taste a lot like manatee.
Just messin' with you muggsy.
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Good excuse to get a bigger smoker.
Meat summit only, aina?
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I'm a fan of Woolly Mammoth's and feel strongly they should not be disparaged or mocked.
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I'm a fan of Woolly Mammoth's and feel strongly they should not be disparaged or mocked.
What about bringing them back to farm them for meat?
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They're estimating it's 30K years old. And completely in tact. Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
Josh Gates Expedition Unknown had a 2 part episode about this They needs to find enough usable DNA to do. They've found several mammoth in Siberia and a South Korean lab was slowly collecting anything usable.
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Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.
Mummified is a cooking technique very similar to todays confit.
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Absolutely we should . The technology is there
Ian Malcolm : Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.
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I think it would be cool as hell.
But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)
Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity. Which is fine...to a point.
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I think it would be cool as hell.
But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)
Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity. Which is fine...to a point.
There is a Russian scientist who wants to clone mammoths and release them in Siberia. Something about roaming the tundra again will do something to return the landscape to the past and it will help cool the climate.
Another story from the Atlantic like 4-5 years ago.
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They're estimating it's 30K years old. And completely in tact. Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
An obvious hoax. The Earth is only 6500 years old.
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I think it would be cool as hell.
But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)
Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity. Which is fine...to a point.
Yup, this is 100% my thinking as well. And not to go all PETA, but the wooly's closest living relative (and the animal that would give birth to the first ones) is the asian elephant, which is one of the most social creatures on Earth. Presumably we'd see a lot of social similarities in mammoths, so if we're going to bring them back, we'd better do right by them.
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There is a Russian scientist who wants to clone mammoths and release them in Siberia. Something about roaming the tundra again will do something to return the landscape to the past and it will help cool the climate.
Another story from the Atlantic like 4-5 years ago.
This is the plan by American scientists also. Release them in tundra in Siberia and northern Canada, to actually help with climate change.
From what I've heard from some of the people involved in these projects, they believe they will have enough viable DNA to succeed. But there are a lot of question marks.
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I think it would be cool as hell.
But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)
Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity. Which is fine...to a point.
Id caveat viability with a few things.
1) They wouldn't have to clone thousands. Populations have been saved with relatively small numbers. I mean, American Bisons were down to 500 living before they were brought back, and that was a far less controlled conservation than this would be.
2) Unlike many species that went extinct, there is plenty of habitat for them. Whether Siberia or Canada or even far northern US, its not somewhere that is going to have a ton of human competition. Though it was colder, its not like their habitat was some desolate snowy wasteland.
I agree, not sure what the outcome is. Maybe tourism? Maybe the triumph of genetics/science?
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Id caveat viability with a few things.
1) They wouldn't have to clone thousands. Populations have been saved with relatively small numbers. I mean, American Bisons were down to 500 living before they were brought back, and that was a far less controlled conservation than this would be.
2) Unlike many species that went extinct, there is plenty of habitat for them. Whether Siberia or Canada or even far northern US, its not somewhere that is going to have a ton of human competition. Though it was colder, its not like their habitat was some desolate snowy wasteland.
I agree, not sure what the outcome is. Maybe tourism? Maybe the triumph of genetics/science?
There are scientists that believe they could restore the tundra. And beyond that they were very social animals and family oriented.
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There are scientists that believe they could restore the tundra. And beyond that they were very social animals and family oriented.
They should clone a sabertooth tiger and a giant sloth that does funny voices too.
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There are scientists that believe they could restore the tundra.
Maybe that would mean the Packers will get back to having a Home Field Advantage in the playoffs.
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Maybe that would mean the Packers will get back to having a Home Field Advantage in the playoffs.
Is "mammoth weather" the same as "Bear weather"? Might convince Ol Virginia to hang on for another decade
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Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.
Cabbage or Cabernet?
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Cabbage or Cabernet?
Dinner at Chili’s circa 2028
First course — smoked alligator confit
Gently roasted marinated manatee a jus
Second course — pear sorbet
Third course — lettuce with shredded smoked harbor seal
— disgusting bowl of Real Chili
Entree — grilled, aged USDA prime filet of woolly mammoth served with rare mushrooms in a wine sauce
After dinner liqueur — Grain Belt Beer
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Dinner at Chili’s circa 2028
First course — smoked alligator confit
Gently roasted marinated manatee a jus
Second course — pear sorbet
Third course — lettuce with shredded smoked harbor seal
— disgusting bowl of Real Chili
Entree — grilled, aged USDA prime filet of woolly mammoth served with rare mushrooms in a wine sauce
After dinner liqueur — Grain Belt Beer
Very upset with you brother dgies.
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Personally, I'm looking forward to them cloning and bringing back the cave lions.
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Very upset with you brother dgies.
It's because of the Grain Belt, isn't it?
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While wearing a wooly mammoth quarter zip?
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Tiger chili?
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Dinner at Chili’s circa 2028
First course — smoked alligator confit
Gently roasted marinated manatee a jus
Second course — pear sorbet
Third course — lettuce with shredded smoked harbor seal
— disgusting bowl of Real Chili
Entree — grilled, aged USDA prime filet of woolly mammoth served with rare mushrooms in a wine sauce
After dinner liqueur — Grain Belt Beer
I’m kinda disgusted with you. Grain Belt? That’s racist. Red White and Blue, or go home.
I’m working on my Manatee burnt ends recipe right now.
St. Louis style Wooly Mammoth ribs are the way to go.
Wooly Mammoth, the other, other white meat.
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I’m kinda disgusted with you. Grain Belt? That’s racist. Red White and Blue, or go home.
St. Louis style Wooly Mammoth ribs are the way to go.
Cmon chili! I figured you for a fine Rhine kinda guy.
St. Louis style ribs? Cardinal fan here you come!
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I want a brontosaurus burger. The Flintstones promised.
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Cmon chili! I figured you for a fine Rhine kinda guy.
St. Louis style ribs? Cardinal fan here you come!
Your not invited. Newsie is, though.
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0.0 of these responses are humorous and the overall vilification of Woolys and other species will not be forgotten. Human hubris continues to increase sociopathic and genocidal ideologies and behaviors.
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0.0 of these responses are humorous and the overall vilification of Woolys and other species will not be forgotten. Human hubris continues to increase sociopathic and genocidal ideologies and behaviors.
Muggsy, in another thread you said you would have no sympathy if "a few people get taken out in horrific fashion." And, sadly, I don't think you were joking. So, I'd cool your jets on calling people who are joking about eating an extinct animal sociopathic and genocidal.
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Muggsy, in another thread you said you would have no sympathy if "a few people get taken out in horrific fashion." And, sadly, I don't think you were joking. So, I'd cool your jets on calling people who are joking about eating an extinct animal sociopathic and genocidal.
If you know that Great Whitrs are migrating right now near the beaches in Cape Cod then stay out of the water and give them space. This isn't controversial.
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Cmon chili! I figured you for a fine Rhine kinda guy.
St. Louis style ribs? Cardinal fan here you come!
With gooey butter cake for dessert.
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If you know that Great Whitrs are migrating right now near the beaches in Cape Cod then stay out of the water and give them space. This isn't controversial.
I guess we're different. I feel sympathy for people who die (and their families) -- even if they're doing things that are stupid. I feel a lot more sympathy in that scenario than I feel for people who are triggered by jokes about eating extinct animals.
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Muggsy, take as a given that every time you start a thread about animals that it will take the exact same path.
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I just assume Muggsy is memeing at this point.
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I guess we're different. I feel sympathy for people who die (and their families) -- even if they're doing things that are stupid. I feel a lot more sympathy in that scenario than I feel for people who are triggered by jokes about eating extinct animals.
To each their own. I think people need to do a better job of learning common sense lessons. And we have wiped out many of our tremendous animals to extinction or near extinction that we don't eat and have few if any predators other than us. Terribly sad and totally inexcusable. So for example when an imbecile puts his arm in a Malayan Tiger enclosure, gets chomped, and we kill an innocent and highly endangered animal, because of our stupidity, it does not sit well with me at all. I can overreact but there are cases where dumb people need to learn the hard way.
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Your not invited. Newsie is, though.
Ahh, C'mon, I thought I was assigned to bring the Grain Belt!
;D
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If you know that Great Whitrs are migrating right now near the beaches in Cape Cod then stay out of the water and give them space. This isn't controversial.
They are following the seal population south which has rebounded.
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Mugster,
You’re invited to the bbq too.
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To each their own. I think people need to do a better job of learning common sense lessons. And we have wiped out many of our tremendous animals to extinction or near extinction that we don't eat and have few if any predators other than us. Terribly sad and totally inexcusable. So for example when an imbecile puts his arm in a Malayan Tiger enclosure, gets chomped, and we kill an innocent and highly endangered animal, because of our stupidity, it does not sit well with me at all. I can overreact but there are cases where dumb people need to learn the hard way.
Somewhere in SE Asia a moron jumped a fence and went up to the orangutan cage in a zoo. The orangutan grabbed him by his shirt, instantly changing the size of it from medium to XXL. Then, with the guy's feet completely off the ground, he pulled him in and pinned him tightly to the bars of the cage. Search the web and maybe you will find it. Absolutely hilarious!
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Somewhere in SE Asia a moron jumped a fence and went up to the orangutan cage in a zoo. The orangutan grabbed him by the shirt, instantly changing the size of it from medium to XXL. Then, with the guy's feet completely off the ground, he pinned him tightly to the bars of the cage. Search the web and maybe you will find it. Absolutely hilarious!
I remember seeing that - here's (https://youtu.be/CtFRHg8Ivow) the video. When I first saw it I was impressed that the ape very quickly changed its grip on the t-shirt from the hem (which would have quickly torn away allowing the guy to escape) to a handful (which was very strong and didn't tear). Then he quickly upgraded from that grip to the guy's leg. I couldn't help but wonder if that was intentional and learned behavior and had a strong sense that this wasn't his first rodeo.
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Somewhere in SE Asia a moron jumped a fence and went up to the orangutan cage in a zoo. The orangutan grabbed him by his shirt, instantly changing the size of it from medium to XXL. Then, with the guy's feet completely off the ground, he pulled him in and pinned him tightly to the bars of the cage. Search the web and maybe you will find it. Absolutely hilarious!
Yep. Orangutans can easily lift 500 lbs btw. The doofus taunted and deserved to get a little lesson. :)
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Stupid people die in stupid ways.
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I love watching idiots trying to pet bison.
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I love watching idiots trying to pet bison.
I saw this video as well.
Idiots of Yellowstone should be a social media account. Endless content.
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Mugster,
You’re invited to the bbq too.
But I’m not?
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But I’m not?
nm
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To each their own. I think people need to do a better job of learning common sense lessons. And we have wiped out many of our tremendous animals to extinction or near extinction that we don't eat and have few if any predators other than us. Terribly sad and totally inexcusable. So for example when an imbecile puts his arm in a Malayan Tiger enclosure, gets chomped, and we kill an innocent and highly endangered animal, because of our stupidity, it does not sit well with me at all. I can overreact but there are cases where dumb people need to learn the hard way.
Muggsy :
I am in the camp that says Harambe was needlessly killed .
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/entertainment/2021/05/28/rip-harambe-twitter-reactss-cincinnati-gorilla-5-years-later/7479869002/
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2027 they will be back. :)
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2027 they will be back. :)
Polar bears are lining up
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Polar bears are lining up
Woollys may have some vindictiveness towards humans once they're back?
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Great just in time to die off in 10 years from an overheating planet.
Maybe we should consider something that'd have a fighting chance long term? Saber tooth? European lion? Giant sloths?
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Great just in time to die off in 10 years from an overheating planet.
Maybe we should consider something that'd have a fighting chance long term? Saber tooth? European lion? Giant sloths?
The mammoth steppe was cold but dry. They don't need a frozen tundra or snow to survive. Its not like the Yukon or Alaska will suddenly become South Beach.
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The mammoth steppe was cold but dry. They don't need a frozen tundra or snow to survive. Its not like the Yukon or Alaska will suddenly become South Beach.
Wow well then I really screwed up investing in Alaska beach front property that was going to be the "next LA"
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Will we bring it back from extinction?
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Will we bring it back from extinction?
Dodos are next in line for de-extinction. Scoop a testing ground?
https://gizmodo.com/colossal-bring-back-the-dodo-de-extinction-1850050539
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Dodos are next in line for de-extinction. Scoop a testing ground?
https://gizmodo.com/colossal-bring-back-the-dodo-de-extinction-1850050539
Bringing back the Dodo, a strange but mostly worthless animal, would be silly. The Thylacine however would be awesome, as there is nothing really like it.
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Bringing back the Dodo, a strange but mostly worthless animal, would be silly.
Agreed. I have heard that they taste pretty gamey.
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Dodos are next in line for de-extinction. Scoop a testing ground?
https://gizmodo.com/colossal-bring-back-the-dodo-de-extinction-1850050539
Misread this as Dodds are next in line.
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Misread this as Dodds are next in line.
Dodds and his crew are not extinct, they are the living dinosaurs
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Bringing back the Dodo, a strange but mostly worthless animal, would be silly. The Thylacine however would be awesome, as there is nothing really like it.
I'm seen several shows recently where they think it may still be alive on Tasmania. It could be another animal mix-up but interesting that people swear to have seen and have taken inconclusive photos.
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Dodos are next in line for de-extinction. Scoop a testing ground?
https://gizmodo.com/colossal-bring-back-the-dodo-de-extinction-1850050539
The problem is that scoop is already littered with dodos. They're certainly not extinct around here.
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I'm seen several shows recently where they think it may still be alive on Tasmania. It could be another animal mix-up but interesting that people swear to have seen and have taken inconclusive photos.
Really? Thats wild. Considering they've been extinct in the wild for a hundred years and there is nothing that size native to the island. Dingos aren't found there and certainly don't have stripes. And its roughly the size of West Virginia, so its not like big pockets where colonies could live.
It was always one of my favorite random animals when I was a kid, I'd be stoked for Colossal to pull it off.
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I've been a strong proponent of the Great Auk coming back from extinction for quite some time.
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I've been a strong proponent of the Great Auk coming back from extinction for quite some time.
Why not, have you seen the price of chicken wings this year?
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I've been a strong proponent of the Great Auk coming back from extinction for quite some time.
As long as we can shoot it
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I've been a strong proponent of the Great Auk coming back from extinction for quite some time.
This has to be a "pick a random extinct animal" troll. A lamer version of a penguin thats uglier and derpier than a Puffin
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I'd be about bringing back Megaloceros giganteus I remember seeing drawings and such of them in museums over there when I was a kid and it just was so captivating that a deer could be that size.
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I'd be about bringing back Megaloceros giganteus I remember seeing drawings and such of them in museums over there when I was a kid and it just was so captivating that a deer could be that size.
I read the book "Sapiens: A Brief History of Mankind" awhile back. Very fascinating read about early man. One section discussed the significant number of large, slow mammals that used to roam the earth. Nearly all of them are extinct now, and their demise can be traced to the time that humans migrated to the area where they lived.
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I read the book "Sapiens: A Brief History of Mankind" awhile back. Very fascinating read about early man. One section discussed the significant number of large, slow mammals that used to roam the earth. Nearly all of them are extinct now, and their demise can be traced to the time that humans migrated to the area where they lived.
My younger daughter got me to read that book and I'm glad I did as found it extremely fascinating. He somehow manages to simultaneously detail and keep brief and cover a lot of history with a new perspective.
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I read the book "Sapiens: A Brief History of Mankind" awhile back. Very fascinating read about early man. One section discussed the significant number of large, slow mammals that used to roam the earth. Nearly all of them are extinct now, and their demise can be traced to the time that humans migrated to the area where they lived.
Are you trying to say that humans had something to do with their extinction?
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Are you trying to say that humans had something to do with their extinction?
Hmmm...intelligent omnivorous creatures move to a place populated by large, slow, animals that have small litters, long gestational periods and no predators...what's the worst that could happen?
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Why not, have you seen the price of chicken wings this year?
Both you and Uncle R have completely disrespected the Great Auk. They have tremendous spiritual significance and your words will not be forgotten.
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Both you and Uncle R have completely disrespected the Great Auk. They have tremendous spiritual significance and your words will not be forgotten.
Won’t matter when I’m high
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Won’t matter when I’m high
Do not disparage the mighty Great Auk. The Auk genocide was ignominious and remains a stain on the human race. Let this species rest in peace and stop projecting your troubles on this wonderful animal.
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Do not disparage the mighty Great Auk. The Auk genocide was ignominious and remains a stain on the human race. Let this species rest in peace and stop projecting your troubles on this wonderful animal.
What troubles? If the auk was too dumb to survive, that sounds like an auk problem, not a me problem.
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What troubles? If the auk was too dumb to survive, that sounds like an auk problem, not a me problem.
That's what I say about humanity and global warming!
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That's what I say about humanity and global warming!
Yup. Kolek’ em, aina?
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Do not disparage the mighty Great Auk. The Auk genocide was ignominious and remains a stain on the human race. Let this species rest in peace and stop projecting your troubles on this wonderful animal.
Survival of the fittest, we make more than 150 species extinct on a daily basis. Great Auks may have not been so appropriately named.
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Survival of the fittest, we make more than 150 species extinct on a daily basis. Great Auks may have not been so appropriately named.
The never developed body armor or counter-fire batteries. Doomed to extinction.
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Survival of the fittest, we make more than 150 species extinct on a daily basis. Great Auks may have not been so appropriately named.
More like weak auks imo
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Auk-ward.
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Here come the "Super Cows"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-cloned-3-super-cows-172054219.html
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The never developed body armor or counter-fire batteries. Doomed to extinction.
Body Armor? You mean like a Pangolin? It is absolutely grotesque what we have done to that totally innocent species.
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Body Armor? You mean like a Pangolin? It is absolutely grotesque what we have done to that totally innocent species.
I didn't realize you were a vegan