Joe Lunardi has Washington State as the 1st Team Out and Marquette as the 2nd Team Out in his current 2023 Bracketology.
A practice against K-State should move is up 2-3 seed lines.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on April 27, 2022, 03:49:27 PM
Joe Lunardi has Washington State as the 1st Team Out and Marquette as the 2nd Team Out in his current 2023 Bracketology.
Lunardi really has nothing else to do when he'd doing Bracketology for 2023 when most rosters aren't even finalized.
A bracketology this time of year is even dumber than the way-to-early top 25's.
No one is making anyone read them.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 27, 2022, 05:38:00 PM
Lunardi really has nothing else to do when he'd doing Bracketology for 2023 when most rosters aren't even finalized.
Says the guy posting on scoop...pot meet kettle.
Quote from: avid1010 on April 27, 2022, 06:11:13 PM
Says the guy posting on scoop...pot meet kettle.
Yo, Scoop is always right and so is Crystal Ball
It is the offseason. No better time to endlessly debate minutiae.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 27, 2022, 05:38:00 PM
Lunardi really has nothing else to do when he'd doing Bracketology for 2023 when most rosters aren't even finalized.
Except for collecting checks for work in collegiate athletics that outweigh yours. Sorry he triggers you. He's doing his job.
May 17th Update Joe Lunardi
ON THE BUBBLE
LAST FOUR BYES
Oklahoma
Providence
Memphis
St. John's
LAST FOUR IN
Saint Mary's
Wyoming
Notre Dame
Florida St.
FIRST FOUR OUT
Virginia Tech
Marquette
Iowa St.
Wisconsin
NEXT FOUR OUT
Loyola Chicago
West Virginia
VCU
Mississippi St.
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-field
I'm thinking both Wisconsin and Marquette find their way in. If Justin comes back Marquette is a lock.
Can we start discussing potential second and third round matchups too - that is fun.
Quote from: tower912 on April 27, 2022, 09:06:23 PM
It is the offseason. No better time to endlessly debate minutiae.
Quote from: The Thing on May 26, 2022, 07:17:12 AM
I'm thinking both Wisconsin and Marquette find their way in. If Justin comes back Marquette is a lock.
Absolutely.
In fact, if he comes back, me's thinks we finally break the forever never winning streak.
With Justin, OMax and Kam, we may be a second weekend team.
If UW-Mad makes it to the NCAA, then Greg Gard is truly one of the best coaches in the game.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on May 26, 2022, 10:20:36 AM
If UW-Mad makes it to the NCAA, then Greg Gard is truly one of the best coaches in the game.
I said that last year. I saw potentially in Johnny Davis but never expected him to transform into a possible lottery pick. Very un-Wisconsinlike development. Will be interesting to see if they return to their bread and butter or if they have another hidden star who will get the Markus Howard treatment.
Four of their starting positions seem set in Hepburn, Klesmit, Wahl, and Crowl. That's a fine starting 4 but does seem to be missing a star player to make it go. Maybe Hepburn takes on that role? Not sure who their 5th starter will be. Jahcobi Neath (1.6 points per game last season)? Kamari McGee (great FR year at UWGB...but it's UWBG)? Chris Hodges (former top 150 recruit who redshirted last season)? Connor Essegian (#229 rated FR)? Jordan Davis (if his brother can make the jump why not him?)? No obvious choices there. Gard's done better than I expected, will be interesting to see what he pulls out of his butt this season.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on May 26, 2022, 10:20:36 AM
If UW-Mad makes it to the NCAA, then Greg Gard is truly one of the best coaches in the game.
I don't think so. They return three guys that started almost every game (33 starts for Hepburn & Crowl, 32 for Wahl) and those are 3 of their top-5 scorers. And while I don't expect Max Klesmit or Kamari McGee to be plug-and-play versions of Johnny Davis or Brad Davison, they did both start a lot of games for lower level programs. Further, if anyone has a knack for turning former middling recruits like Ben Carlson, Matthew Mors, or Chris Hodges into at least contributing level players, it's Wisconsin. I think their floor is probably in that bubbly 11-seed to high NIT range, but if a couple guys overachieve they could easily be looking at a safe single-digit seed.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 26, 2022, 10:42:55 AM
Further, if anyone has a knack for turning former middling recruits like Ben Carlson, Matthew Mors, or Chris Hodges into at least contributing level players, it's Wisconsin.
Not sure if I'm missing your point but Carlson and Mors transferr...I mean lost their love of basketball.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 26, 2022, 10:52:34 AM
Not sure if I'm missing your point but Carlson and Mors transferr...I mean lost their love of basketball.
Jeez...both? I knew they lost Bowman, didn't realize they lost those guys too.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 26, 2022, 10:42:55 AM
I don't think so. They return three guys that started almost every game (33 starts for Hepburn & Crowl, 32 for Wahl) and those are 3 of their top-5 scorers. And while I don't expect Max Klesmit or Kamari McGee to be plug-and-play versions of Johnny Davis or Brad Davison, they did both start a lot of games for lower level programs. Further, if anyone has a knack for turning former middling recruits like Ben Carlson, Matthew Mors, or Chris Hodges into at least contributing level players, it's Wisconsin. I think their floor is probably in that bubbly 11-seed to high NIT range, but if a couple guys overachieve they could easily be looking at a safe single-digit seed.
Wisconsin always plays solid team defense and does not turn the ball over. You can win a lot of games without a star with this formula.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 26, 2022, 10:57:06 AM
Jeez...both? I knew they lost Bowman, didn't realize they lost those guys too.
Is it really a loss when they no longer love the game of basketball?
Quote from: bilsu on May 26, 2022, 10:58:41 AM
Wisconsin always plays solid team defense and does not turn the ball over. You can win a lot of games without a star with this formula.
This is exactly right. They will likely be able to keep games close by extending possessions and avoiding turnovers. The key will be to replace the shots that Davis and Davison took. Plus, both of those guys got to the FT line quite a bit. That's a huge hole to fill, offensively, and it may take a portion of season to figure it out.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on May 27, 2022, 09:44:08 AM
This is exactly right. They will likely be able to keep games close by extending possessions and avoiding turnovers. The key will be to replace the shots that Davis and Davison took. Plus, both of those guys got to the FT line quite a bit. That's a huge hole to fill, offensively, and it may take a portion of season to figure it out.
They'll win 22 games
Potrykus has an article up about next season's WI team. I found this a stretch and wonder what he's basing this comment off of. Perhaps the 40% he shot as a frosh (2-5 lol).
QuoteJordan Davis is a better shooter than he showed last season when he hit just 8 of 28 three-pointers.
The consensus from Badger fans seems to be that Jordan Davis or Illver will be their 5th starter. That probably doesn't bode well for them
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 27, 2022, 10:33:55 AM
The consensus from Badger fans seems to be that Jordan Davis or Illver will be their 5th starter. That probably doesn't bode well for them
I dread when Illver becomes a key contributor and that starts all kinds of Bon Illver comments.