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Title: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 17, 2022, 07:05:51 PM
That's it. That's the thread.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 17, 2022, 07:42:53 PM
No it isn't. Agree 100 per cent.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Mu8891 on March 17, 2022, 07:47:33 PM
And ...

I'm tired of being mocked by UW fans because MU is such a joke!
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 17, 2022, 07:47:33 PM
I'm tired of being mocked by UW fans because MU is such a joke!

Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: MuggsyB on March 17, 2022, 07:57:06 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.

Don't do that.  You will regret that decision.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Boozemon Barro on March 17, 2022, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.
I think that is grounds for filing for divorce.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Mu8891 on March 17, 2022, 08:01:04 PM
Topper ... you're right

UW brand:  play hard, overachieve ,
exceed expectations, win in March ..
Win big 14/10 titles , advance in NCAA

MU :  now 10 years w / out a NCAAT win. Play well in January, collapse in February.  Lose in embarrassing fashion in March.

#facts
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 17, 2022, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.

They actually didn't make it in 2018, but your overall point is painfully true.  They are pretty much always good no matter what the preseason predictions are, through coaching changes, with non-stud players, etc.  It's depressing to constantly see their success while MU struggles so much. 
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Merit Matters on March 17, 2022, 08:23:49 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 17, 2022, 07:57:06 PM
Don't do that.  You will regret that decision.
He wouldn't regret it if Wiscy cuts down the nets before us. Which is something I fully expect to happen in the future.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: warriors141 on March 17, 2022, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.

yea, hard to argue with this. was a lot more fun in the buzz era when both programs were strong. Although MU has been so bad I've become apathetic to college basketball, UW's success doesn't really bother me that much
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: wisblue on March 17, 2022, 08:32:41 PM
I had to look past the title to see if this was about the NCAA or the BET.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: NCMUFan on March 17, 2022, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.
Sad day when a moderator, the pillar of Marquette fandom says that.
Now nowhere to turn for optimism.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Johnny B on March 17, 2022, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 17, 2022, 08:37:24 PM
Sad day when a moderator, the pillar of Marquette fandom says that.
Now nowhere to turn for optimism.
what else can ya say. sux but dudes just spitting reality
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: fjm on March 17, 2022, 09:19:40 PM
Bought 4 UWshirts tonight off Amazon.com. Don't know much but just trying to fit in.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 17, 2022, 08:37:24 PM
Sad day when a moderator, the pillar of Marquette fandom says that.
Now nowhere to turn for optimism.

Yeah.   Almost a decade of demoralizing endings will do that.  #Arbys
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Viper on March 17, 2022, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 17, 2022, 07:47:33 PM
And ...

I'm tired of being mocked by UW fans because MU is such a joke!
100%. Just tell yourself, BETTER DEAD, THAN RED
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Farley36 on March 17, 2022, 09:45:39 PM
Don't worry, we only make the tourney 30% of the time these days so the humiliation is few and far between.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 17, 2022, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 09:23:41 PM
Yeah.   Almost a decade of demoralizing endings will do that.  #Arbys

Come on man!  If Shaka fails in 2-3 more years I would get the frustration. But we made the tournament on an off year.  I agree the performance today was embarrassing but step off the ledge and ask you wife to calm down.  Being a fan of a team isn't always pleasant.

It will be rewarding.  Someday, I hope.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: warriorstrack on March 17, 2022, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 17, 2022, 09:55:59 PM
Come on man!  If Shaka fails in 2-3 more years I would get the frustration. But we made the tournament on an off year.  I agree the performance today was embarrassing but step off the ledge and ask you wife to calm down.  Being a fan of a team isn't always pleasant.

It will be rewarding.  Someday, I hope.

I'm going to agree with this analysis, man it's hard to see a 13 seed Vermont hanging with an Arkansas team, I'll give Shaka a couple years before I go to the dark side (Oregon/Oregon St), but come on a competitive game would have been a breath of fresh air, is that asking too much, if Shaka acknowledges the success and disappointment of tbe NCAA loss that will go a long way with acknowledging disappointment and a need for growth, that would give me a lot of hope for the future
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: BM1090 on March 17, 2022, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 17, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
Every year for the past ~5 seasons .. my wife (MU grad) suggests we should just give up and switch to being Badger fans.   

What are they at now, 17 straight NCAA seasons? UW with 14 wins (and counting) to MU's zero in 9 freaking years.

UW's brand is consistent winning, closing out the seasons strong.  MU's brand is the opposite and they are the team you hope to draw.

This afternoon's loss .. fits like a glove.

They missed a few years ago.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Shooter McGavin on March 17, 2022, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 17, 2022, 10:02:50 PM
I'm going to agree with this analysis, man it's hard to see a 13 seed Vermont hanging with an Arkansas team, I'll give Shaka a couple years before I go to the dark side (Oregon/Oregon St), but come on a competitive game would have been a breath of fresh air, is that asking too much, if Shaka acknowledges the success and disappointment of tbe NCAA loss that will go a long way with acknowledging disappointment and a need for growth, that would give me a lot of hope for the future

Agreed about having Shaka acknowledge that the game today was a failure that needs to be remedied by player acquisition or development would be more encouraging.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: muhoops1 on March 18, 2022, 12:23:20 AM
It would appear that shitting the bed when the lights are brightest is in our DNA.  There was nothing god about the last two games MU played; schematically or effort wise.  That's coaching.  I'm OK with losing if your competitive and executing.  MU is just bad when it matters most.  Nothing about talent.  They weren't ready and collapsed emotionally.  Shaka couldn't stop the bleeding or help them in any way.  crap they just literally threw the ball at the rim.  It was pathetic.  The die hard and casual fan alike could see this team stunk.  Not about talent, about scheme and execution. 
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2022, 12:41:55 AM
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 18, 2022, 12:23:20 AM
Shaka couldn't stop the bleeding or help them in any way. 

That perhaps is most surprising (or indicting?).  From the beginning of the season through the winning streak, you generally saw the team competing well, and we assumed Shaka was making great adjustments because we often came back in games (even if we lost).

So either he forgot how to do that starting in Feb, or the players stopped listening, or that was all just a bad assumption on our part.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Dickthedribbler on March 18, 2022, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 17, 2022, 07:47:33 PM
And ...

I'm tired of being mocked by UW fans because MU is such a joke!

A program that went 47 years (1947-1994) without even making so much as one NCAA Tournament needs to be a little careful about mocking anyone.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2022, 01:10:16 AM
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 18, 2022, 12:44:18 AM
A program that went 47 years (1947-1994) without even making so much as one NCAA Tournament needs to be a little careful about mocking anyone.

And really...who cares if they're mocking?

Their time will come again.  What goes around comes around.

Shaka just laid the foundation, now just build upward. Couldn't ask for a better place to start.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: TJ on March 18, 2022, 02:45:07 AM
We've been laughed out of the arena the last 4 ncaa games we've played in. Granted one of those was an elite 8 game but still is true. They've had no chance from the opening buzzer the last 4 times they stepped out on to an NCAA tournament floor, under 3 different coaches and over 9 years (no tournament in 2020 so not fair to count that depressing crapfest).

It needs to end now. When we make it next year they better frickin come to play in the opening round.  If we lose but it's a game I can handle it, but if we don't even compete I may just have to give up. I'm not gonna root for Wisconsin, that's crazy, but I'll find someone else.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: willie warrior on March 18, 2022, 05:55:20 AM
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 17, 2022, 10:02:50 PM
I'm going to agree with this analysis, man it's hard to see a 13 seed Vermont hanging with an Arkansas team, I'll give Shaka a couple years before I go to the dark side (Oregon/Oregon St), but come on a competitive game would have been a breath of fresh air, is that asking too much, if Shaka acknowledges the success and disappointment of tbe NCAA loss that will go a long way with acknowledging disappointment and a need for growth, that would give me a lot of hope for the future
Do what you want about giving Shaka a long leash, 2 to 3 years. Too many on this board had even longer term sentiments on Wojo-Dukiet and that dragged MU down the toilet. Yesterday's complete smackdown should be a complete wakeup call to all fans bot to accept that bullcrap.
Embarrassing. The NC players were laughing at MU.
TOTALLY UNACCRPTABLE FOR MU FANS.
SHAKAS ASS MUST NOW FEEL THE HEAT BLASTING IT.
Next year better be a significant upswing in wins, BEast standings, dance seeding, and recruiting.
No more excuses or wish washy statements of patience.
WHAT A TOTAL LAUGHINGSTOCK EMBARRASMENT OF PERFORMANCE.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: willie warrior on March 18, 2022, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 18, 2022, 01:10:16 AM
And really...who cares if they're mocking?

Their time will come again.  What goes around comes around.

Shaka just laid the foundation, now just build upward. Couldn't ask for a better place to start.
"Laid the foundation"? Cmon man. The only foundation he laid was the trench for the latrine.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 18, 2022, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 18, 2022, 12:41:55 AM
..From the beginning of the season through the winning streak, you generally saw the team competing well, and we assumed Shaka was making great adjustments because we often came back in games (even if we lost).

So either he forgot how to do that starting in Feb, or the players stopped listening, or that was all just a bad assumption on our part.

This resonates with me greatly, and is the largest question mark for all those who say this year was a building block and MU's future is bright.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on March 18, 2022, 08:38:42 AM
The most indicting thing about yesterday was how scared the guys looked. Total deer in headlights. Should never have been the case. Shaka should have explained they were playing with house money -- everyone expected them to lose, predicted them to lose, and they weren't supposed to be there in the first place, so go out and have some fun. Instead everyone but O-Max came out and pissed down their leg. Buzz is a douchebag, but his teams were fearless.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Mu8891 on March 18, 2022, 08:44:52 AM
EG ....

You're right.  The team played tight, they looked scared.  They lost their composure ( including Smart ).  It was
an absolute disgrace

The way they played... And Shaka s utter lack of success in the NCAAT for the last decade is a major concern.  I think it's clear based on the TX choke job last year, and the beat down yesterday, that he's doing something way WRONG in prepping his teams for tournament play.

Why has he not adjusted??
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Pops Sims on March 18, 2022, 09:46:10 AM
Whether it be Wojo or Shaka, "crapping the bed" in the Big Dance (the few years they actually make it...) is chronic and never-ending...
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Goose on March 18, 2022, 09:51:03 AM
Only silver lining on yesterday's horrible performance, 99% of the viewership probably shut the game off and turned on a different game. I was watching at a bar in the Third Ward and my son and I were the only idiots watching the game. I feel badly for anyone the made trip down to the game. Actually I feel badly that I left work early and ran up a $150 food and drink bill.
Title: Re: I'm just tired of being a joke in the tournament
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 18, 2022, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 18, 2022, 09:51:03 AM
Only silver lining on yesterday's horrible performance, 99% of the viewership probably shut the game off and turned on a different game. I was watching at a bar in the Third Ward and my son and I were the only idiots watching the game. I feel badly for anyone the made trip down to the game. Actually I feel badly that I left work early and ran up a $150 food and drink bill.

For the first time ever in my 50+ years of watching Marquette games, I turned off the game with about 6 minutes to go in the first half and watched the Richmond/Iowa game. I lived in Richmond for about 21 years and was very happy for their success. Later I watched St. Peter's take down a team that I really cannot stand. Kentucky has the most obnoxious, insufferable fans in the country. I was really hoping Vermont and Akron would pull off upsets as well but they fell short.

I never thought I would turn off a Marquette game early but yesterday was simply more than I could bear.
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