Obviously the glass is a significant concern. That said, the few times I've watched UNC, I've seen prolonged stretches of anemic offense and countless bricks all over the floor. No doubt we are the underdog and have had a rough month or so. My take is there's still hope if we hoop with confidence and no hesitation.
This team has no pressure on then at all. For those of you that have watched Carolina what will be the keys in your view?
We miss out on a Dawson Garcia match up unfortunately. That would have made this one even more fun to watch.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2022, 07:11:51 PM
Obviously the glass is a significant concern. That said, the few times I've watched UNC, I've seen prolonged stretches of anemic offense and countless bricks all over the floor. No doubt we are the underdog and have had a rough month or so. My take is there's still hope if we hoop with confidence and no hesitation.
This team has no pressure on then at all. For those of you that have watched Carolina what will be the keys in your view?
North Carolina is at or near the top of the ACC in several categories. The Heels lead the ACC in rebounding. They don't turn it over often, averaging just ten giveaways/game. They are the top free throw shooting team in the conference at 77%. The team shoots 36% from three point range. The league may be down this year, but Carolina is superior in many key metrics.
They don't scare me. Been there before.(//)
If Lewis is on, he could have a field day against them, no one to guard him. Manek is slow.
Quote from: oilcan on March 13, 2022, 07:41:21 PM
They don't scare me. Been there before.(//)
Nice piece of memorabilia!
That's the bad news.
On the flip side, they don't defend the pick and roll well and aren't a great defensive team, not to mention that they are pretty thin outside their top 4.
The 4 8 seeds defensive rankings
SDSU 2
Boise St 17
Seton Hall 26
North Carolina 64
As a 9 seed, with an offense that has been struggling to find its groove of late, UNC was the best draw when it comes to scoring points.
Now Marquette just needs to slow them down enough offensively and hit some open shots to win the game.
Quote from: oilcan on March 13, 2022, 07:41:21 PM
They don't scare me. Been there before.(//)
BAM!!
We can do this!!
Courtesy of Yahoo...
N. Carolina
The Tar Heels were on the bubble in February but won six of their last seven and advanced to the ACC tournament semifinals to grab an NCAA bid. North Carolina, though, has only two Quad 1 wins, the most notable when it played spoiler in Coach K's final game at Cameron Indoor. A non-conference win against Michigan is the other highlight in coach Hubert Davis' first season. A 6-10 junior, all-ACC star Armando Bacot (16.5 ppg, 12.5 rpg) has 24 double-doubles, third most in the nation, and helps UNC rank seventh in rebounding rate. He's surrounded by capable three-point shooters, with sophomore guard Caleb Love (15.4 ppg) and Oklahoma transfer Brady Manek (14.4 ppg) both knocking down more than 70 treys. The team lacks perimeter defense, though, ranking 255th in opponent three-point percentage. And the rotation took a hit when Marquette transfer Dawson Garcia (9.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg) left midseason due to a family matter. UNC surviving the opening weekend doesn't seem likely.
UNC is definitely a beatable team. Of course, so are our Warriors.
Reading a little of their boards/blogs, fans seem a lot like here - of course their fortune turned from bad->good, and Marquette went from great->good. Both teams have been fairly inconsistent, so lucky for us this game will have to be played to know the outcome.
Marquette will be at 3:30pm on TBS.
Brian Anderson, Jim Jackson and Allie LaForce.
If Bacot gets < 10 boards, MU wins.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 13, 2022, 07:50:03 PM
Marquette will be at 3:30pm on TBS.
Brian Anderson, Jim Jackson and Allie LaForce.
Awesome, thanks!
Quote from: Jockey on March 13, 2022, 07:50:58 PM
If Bacot gets < 10 boards, MU wins.
He will rebound like a mfr, but it no matta
Not the stat to watch
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 13, 2022, 08:03:19 PM
He will rebound like a mfr, but it no matta
Not the stat to watch
What is the stat to watch?
Here's my strategy:
After we beat UNC on Thursday, I'll buy $1977 worth of MU stock.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 13, 2022, 07:50:03 PM
Marquette will be at 3:30pm on TBS.
Brian Anderson, Jim Jackson and Allie LaForce.
Actually an ideal time for me personally.
Just Win Baby
We need to play our game.
High intensity, high pressure, low turnover, box out.
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 13, 2022, 09:02:05 PM
We need to play our game.
High intensity, high pressure, low turnover, box out.
Low turnover? Box out? What team you been watching?
I kid, I kid
I hope UNC doesn't hold a grudge and use 1977 as motivation
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 13, 2022, 09:14:56 PM
I hope UNC doesn't hold a grudge and use 1977 as motivation
I think they got that out of their system in 2011.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 13, 2022, 09:18:20 PM
I think they got that out of their system in 2011.
Yeah ... a dozen of us Marquette alums got together to watch that game at a Charlotte bar. We were of course outnumbered by UNC fans by a bazillion miles. Not the most fun I've ever had watching an MU game.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 13, 2022, 09:04:43 PM
Low turnover? Box out? What team you been watching?
I kid, I kid
Exactly, if they don't do that, well, it will be over.
Great, now we have to face a motivated team.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 13, 2022, 09:14:56 PM
I hope UNC doesn't hold a grudge and use 1977 as motivation
Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2022, 09:22:07 PM
Yeah ... a dozen of us Marquette alums got together to watch that game at a Charlotte bar. We were of course outnumbered by UNC fans by a bazillion miles. Not the most fun I've ever had watching an MU game.
Good grief....that must have been an awful experience. Of course being in Syracuse in 2013 must have been living death.
Quote from: bradforster on March 13, 2022, 07:29:13 PM
North Carolina is at or near the top of the ACC in several categories. The Heels lead the ACC in rebounding. They don't turn it over often, averaging just ten giveaways/game. They are the top free throw shooting team in the conference at 77%. The team shoots 36% from three point range. The league may be down this year, but Carolina is superior in many key metrics.
Sure, but this was one of the worst ever iterations of the ACC.
Cautious optimism for Thursday.
Score buckets while limiting them to significantly less of aforementioned buckets
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2022, 09:34:15 PM
Good grief....that must have been an awful experience. Of course being in Syracuse in 2013 must have been living death.
The experience kind of had two phases. As UNC quickly built the lead, there was considerable trash-talking hurled our way. But once it became obvious we were gonna get thumped, it kind of shifted to, "Y'all had a great season," and "Jimmy Butler's a hell of a player," that kind of stuff, because they didn't want to rub it in. So it wasn't pleasant, but it coulda been worse.
I was in D.C. watching that game against Cuse, and that sucked badly enough!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
What is the stat to watch?
UNC's 2P FG%. If they own the paint (whether on first or second chance opportunities) we will lose the game.
UNC doesn't actually have elite offensive rebounding numbers, it's pretty much all Bacot doing the work. What they are elite at is scoring after they get the offensive rebound (again almost all Bacot). So while they aren't the best offensive rebounding team we've faced...if they get an offensive rebound, they are probably scoring.
They don't cause turnovers, they don't defend the three very well, and they don't defend the pick and roll particularly well. Our offense should be able to generate some open looks against them and if we are hitting our shots...that likely energizes our players which leads to better defense.
Defensively, I think I would try to put Morsell on RJ Davis and O-Max on Caleb Love. Shut down their dynamic guards with length and hope Bacot can't beat us by his lonesome. I'd have Kolek playing far off Leaky Black, helping to deny the entry pass to Bacot and trying to strip him anytime he touches the ball. I would also mix up defenses and have the double team on Bacot come from different positions and at different times so he is constantly guessing when and where the double is going to come from. He's not particularly good at passing out of the post so I think we can get him into some trouble.
I don't love the matchup, but there is a path to victory. UNC is very inconsistent so we catch them on an off night and we can win...or even blow them out if it's an off night for them and we're hitting our threes.
I'd go after Bacot early and often with Daryll and OMax - either the refs are calling it tight and we can get him into foul trouble, or they let it go and then hopefully do that both ways which lets us bring the violence.
With their super-thin bench we want as physical a game as possible - I'll take our 2nd 5 over theirs any day of the week. I'd be in full-court pressure from the tip - we have bench legs, they don't.
If we can keep Bacot to 20 minutes I think we win the game.
If we can score a few more points than they do, the odds favor a win.
All UNC needs to do is watch the Creighton game. If Bacot is half as good as Kalkbrenner it is over. I'm praying our January team shows up in Fort Worth.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 14, 2022, 08:08:05 AM
All UNC needs to do is watch the Creighton game. If Bacot is half as good as Kalkbrenner it is over. I'm praying our January team shows up in Fort Worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBq2SxmoOE8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBq2SxmoOE8)
Expecting Warriors on the court.
Pick and roll, pick and roll, pick and roll. Kolek is going to need to get it going and if the shots are falling, I like our odds. UNC's defense doesn't scare me that much and I agree that getting Bacot into foul trouble could be big. If he plays the full game, he probably goes for 20/20 (not exaggerating).
Defensively, need to use the soft press to shorten the shot clock. They want to play fast so O-Max needs to slow that down. We might need to turn it up a bit to force turnovers because this is a team that has the physical tools to beat us up on the offensive glass, and our ability to turn mediocre offensive rebounding teams into great ones will probably show up here.
Leaky Black is the defensive specialist and will likely draw the Justin card. As I expected before the draw, I think Marquette has to win without Justin having a huge game- Leakys defense isn't very leaky, he did well shutting down Duke's front court lottery pick.
Hopefully Justin still gets around his averages, especially double digit boards, but many of the others will have to do some heavy offensive lifting.
I really like the idea of MU disrupting UNCs smaller in comparison guards with height and athleticism. Morsell and OMax could be huge defensively- maybe some Stevie on RJ Davis to hound him.
The problem though is that if you move Kolek to cover Black the height discrepancy is so drastic that it probably doesn't work
All that's been said here but I will add a few points. Recently, MU has been one of the worst teams in the country as measured by momentum (Haslam), while UNC is the most inconsistent (last), as mentioned in this thread.
Why has MU lost momentum? Going back to when MU was on their win streak, I pointed out that was playing about 15% slower on offense, being more deliberate in the PnR. Waiting for the 2nd good shot by moving the ball and displacing defenders in space. However, MU has digressed to the December too quick possession pace during the February Fade.
The offense is designed to play fast, I get that. It is fun to watch when it's clicking. The philosophy is to take the first good shot. However, teams have adjusted, and we are forcing the first (and not best) shot. Our shooters trey percentages are dropping. Worse, our transition defense is suffering with the break-outs after our early misses.
The value of the extra pass is higher efficiency-wise. It sets up shooters with better looks. It moves the defense out of position for rebounds or easy transition points (see DePaul as the anti-poster child of easy break-outs points versus MI). No one exemplifies this more than Nova (although MU will never play that slow).
UNC and MU play fast. We don't have an inside game that threatens and our shooters have gone AWOL. If MU is a bit more deliberate including keeping down the early forced turnovers, we can win this game by taking advantage of UNC's lack of consistency and patience.
Quote from: DoctorV on March 14, 2022, 09:10:54 AM
Leaky Black is the defensive specialist and will likely draw the Justin card. As I expected before the draw, I think Marquette has to win without Justin having a huge game- Leakys defense isn't very leaky, he did well shutting down Duke's front court lottery pick.
Hopefully Justin still gets around his averages, especially double digit boards, but many of the others will have to do some heavy offensive lifting.
I really like the idea of MU disrupting UNCs smaller in comparison guards with height and athleticism. Morsell and OMax could be huge defensively- maybe some Stevie on RJ Davis to hound him.
The problem though is that if you move Kolek to cover Black the height discrepancy is so drastic that it probably doesn't work
Leaky Black is a baller. Like his game a lot.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2022, 09:01:49 AM
Pick and roll, pick and roll, pick and roll. Kolek is going to need to get it going and if the shots are falling, I like our odds. UNC's defense doesn't scare me that much and I agree that getting Bacot into foul trouble could be big. If he plays the full game, he probably goes for 20/20 (not exaggerating).
Defensively, need to use the soft press to shorten the shot clock. They want to play fast so O-Max needs to slow that down. We might need to turn it up a bit to force turnovers because this is a team that has the physical tools to beat us up on the offensive glass, and our ability to turn mediocre offensive rebounding teams into great ones will probably show up here.
When was the last time we got any opponent into foul trouble? We just don't draw fouls and so I don't think this is likely to happen.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on March 14, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
When was the last time we got any opponent into foul trouble? We just don't draw fouls and so I don't think this is likely to happen.
We don't, but he is a bit foul-prone. Fouled out 4 times, been on 4 fouls another 7 times. But Hubert isn't an auto-bench with 2 fouls in the first half coach, so it may not matter. But as these games can be called tight, trying to get Justin and Darryl attacking inside early might not be a bad strategy. Though I still think pick and roll is the key and expect Bacot will get numbers almost regardless.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 14, 2022, 06:28:55 AM
If we can score a few more points than they do, the odds favor a win.
Jimmy Jackson yesterday (being serious): "If you prevent your man from catching a pass, you usually are a good defensive player".
If MU doesn't have a big coaching advantage Thursday, we probably hired the wrong guy.
Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2022, 08:19:47 PM
Here's my strategy:
After we beat UNC on Thursday, I'll buy $1977 worth of MU stock.
Wait - there's stock????
I think Darryl needs to be the guy on the court with the highest energy with a confident look on his face.
He's the engine and if he can lead and get everyone else to lock in with energy I like our chances. He's the leader though and it starts with him.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2022, 09:01:49 AM
Pick and roll, pick and roll, pick and roll. Kolek is going to need to get it going and if the shots are falling, I like our odds. UNC's defense doesn't scare me that much and I agree that getting Bacot into foul trouble could be big. If he plays the full game, he probably goes for 20/20 (not exaggerating).
Yes. The BE figured Kolek out - especially the P/R. I don't think UNC will do near as well against it.
1. Get them in foul trouble early, they do not have the bench we do.
2. Run and wind them, they do not have the bench we do...
They are 6-1 since the Pitt loss, we have been lost since the close Providence defeat.
My strategy Thursday?
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The Athletic article by Sam Vecenie looking at NBA prospect matchups he is looking forward to. He lists two from our game:
Justin vs. Leaky Black
Caleb Love vs Darryl Morsell
Summary for those who refuse to pay for really good CBB coverage: Justin will have to make a lot of contested shots due to Black's length. If he can use his jab step well, he can get Black on his heels. Love is a good shooter, but takes bad shots in the lane. Morsell fights through screens and disrupts set shots. If he can have a good game on Love (4-14 from shooting), Marquette is in good position.
https://theathletic.com/3181774/2022/03/14/roddy-vs-diabate-branham-vs-williamson-and-more-the-best-nba-prospect-matchups-in-the-ncaa-tournaments-first-round/ (https://theathletic.com/3181774/2022/03/14/roddy-vs-diabate-branham-vs-williamson-and-more-the-best-nba-prospect-matchups-in-the-ncaa-tournaments-first-round/)
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 14, 2022, 12:12:15 PM
My strategy Thursday?
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Definitely my plan.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 14, 2022, 11:35:12 AM
Wait - there's stock????
Micron Technology. It appears to be undervalued, just like our Warrior Eagles.
Quote from: DoctorV on March 14, 2022, 09:10:54 AM
I really like the idea of MU disrupting UNCs smaller in comparison guards with height and athleticism. Morsell and OMax could be huge defensively- maybe some Stevie on RJ Davis to hound him.
The problem though is that if you move Kolek to cover Black the height discrepancy is so drastic that it probably doesn't work
My thought is that while Black is certainly able to score (55% from 2 and 35% from 3), UNC's offense is not designed to get him shots. He's hit double digits in scoring in only 4 games this season and never more than 13 (and he needed to play 43 minutes for that one). If having Kolek sag off Leaky helps keep Bacot from touching the ball, I'm not sure Leaky will make them pay enough to not make it worth it.
I of course love the idea of getting Bacot into foul trouble but I don't think we've successfully got a big in foul trouble all season. Our PG passes out of drives 99% of the time and our two bigs aren't posting anyone up. We really only have three players capable of getting to the foul line consistently and one of them will have his hands full with Leaky all game. Greg has been playing terrible lately which would really leave it up to Morsell to try and attract Bacot on drives and get the contact. Bacot is on the slower side. Oso has been showing flashes of his driving game. This would be a great time for him to suddenly start taking opposing bigs off the bounce. Not expecting it though.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2022, 09:23:32 PM
My thought is that while Black is certainly able to score (55% from 2 and 35% from 3), UNC's offense is not designed to get him shots. He's hit double digits in scoring in only 4 games this season and never more than 13 (and he needed to play 43 minutes for that one). If having Kolek sag off Leaky helps keep Bacot from touching the ball, I'm not sure Leaky will make them pay enough to not make it worth it.
I of course love the idea of getting Bacot into foul trouble but I don't think we've successfully got a big in foul trouble all season. Our PG passes out of drives 99% of the time and our two bigs aren't posting anyone up. We really only have three players capable of getting to the foul line consistently and one of them will have his hands full with Leaky all game. Greg has been playing terrible lately which would really leave it up to Morsell to try and attract Bacot on drives and get the contact. Bacot is on the slower side. Oso has been showing flashes of his driving game. This would be a great time for him to suddenly start taking opposing bigs off the bounce. Not expecting it though.
Our bigs need to show up Thurs. Tenacity, power, aggression, force, and intelligence, should be part of the conversation Shaka has with them. I expect 20 pts, 10 rebs, 4 blks.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 14, 2022, 12:14:31 PM
The Athletic article by Sam Vecenie looking at NBA prospect matchups he is looking forward to. He lists two from our game:
Justin vs. Leaky Black
Caleb Love vs Darryl Morsell
Summary for those who refuse to pay for really good CBB coverage: Justin will have to make a lot of contested shots due to Black's length. If he can use his jab step well, he can get Black on his heels. Love is a good shooter, but takes bad shots in the lane. Morsell fights through screens and disrupts set shots. If he can have a good game on Love (4-14 from shooting), Marquette is in good position.
https://theathletic.com/3181774/2022/03/14/roddy-vs-diabate-branham-vs-williamson-and-more-the-best-nba-prospect-matchups-in-the-ncaa-tournaments-first-round/ (https://theathletic.com/3181774/2022/03/14/roddy-vs-diabate-branham-vs-williamson-and-more-the-best-nba-prospect-matchups-in-the-ncaa-tournaments-first-round/)
2nd this really good article. Also said Morsell will end up in his top 100 after underclassmen announce they are going back to school.
Quote from: MUDPT on March 14, 2022, 09:33:18 PM
2nd this really good article. Also said Morsell will end up in his top 100 after underclassmen announce they are going back to school.
The temptation is to dismiss Morsell's NBA chances out of hand ... but if he can show that he can hit NBA 3s at a 35% or better clip, maybe he could be a D&3 guy on some team's bench. His game is about as NBA-ready (arguably more) than Lazar's was, and at this point we've seen too many Buycks and Juans make it to say, "No way."
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2022, 09:31:30 PM
Our bigs need to show up Thurs. Tenacity, power, aggression, force, and intelligence, should be part of the conversation Shaka has with them. I expect 20 pts, 10 rebs, 4 blks.
Yeah...I don't think a pep talk is going to be enough for that.
Assuming you are just referring to Kur/Oso , what you are expecting has only happened two times this season:
Jackson State: 22 points, 18 rebounds, 5 blocks
Providence (H): 27 points, 11 rebounds, 8 blocks
So a game against a garbage opponent and our absolute best game of the season. Technically in the realm of possibility but most likely going to fall short of your expectation.
Must...win...eFG%
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2022, 10:48:18 PM
Yeah...I don't think a pep talk is going to be enough for that.
Assuming you are just referring to Kur/Oso , what you are expecting has only happened two times this season:
Jackson State: 22 points, 18 rebounds, 5 blocks
Providence (H): 27 points, 11 rebounds, 8 blocks
So a game against a garbage opponent and our absolute best game of the season. Technically in the realm of possibility but most likely going to fall short of your expectation.
I was just emphasizing the overall point. They simply must show up.
I've watched a handful of UNC games already since getting the matchup and I keep talking myself in and out of why Marquette will win or lose.
I can't make up my mind. Bacot is going to get his points and rebounds and Black is going to cause problems for Lewis. Can Morsell and OMax cause similar problems for UNC? Can Marquettes depth wear UNC out? Can Marquette make shots?
Those are the key questions. I'm not sure the shorthanded Baylor wants to see Marquettes depth in the second round but about 90% of the bets are coming in for UNC and I get why. They've been hot.
Should be an exciting game. Hopefully we turn the TV off happy when it's all said and done.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 14, 2022, 11:21:13 PM
I've watched a handful of UNC games already since getting the matchup and I keep talking myself in and out of why Marquette will win or lose.
I can't make up my mind. Bacot is going to get his points and rebounds and Black is going to cause problems for Lewis. Can Morsell and OMax cause similar problems for UNC? Can Marquettes depth wear UNC out? Can Marquette make shots?
Those are the key questions. I'm not sure the shorthanded Baylor wants to see Marquettes depth in the second round but about 90% of the bets are coming in for UNC and I get why. They've been hot.
Should be an exciting game. Hopefully we turn the TV off happy when it's all said and done.
As of now 86% (officially) of bets are on UNC.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 14, 2022, 11:41:45 PM
As of now 86% (officially) of bets are on UNC.
Good, though doesn't mean anything.
More curious to know where the sharps money is going
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2022, 11:19:05 AM
If MU doesn't have a big coaching advantage Thursday, we probably hired the wrong guy.
This 100000000%. Also, if (when) we beat UNC, Shaka should have a pretty good idea on how to play Baylor.
Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2022, 08:19:47 PM
Here's my strategy:
After we beat UNC on Thursday, I'll buy $1977 worth of MU stock.
Big spender, hey?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2022, 09:31:30 PM
Our bigs need to show up Thurs. Violence! Tenacity, power, aggression, force, and intelligence, should be part of the conversation Shaka has with them. I expect 20 pts, 10 rebs, 4 blks.
FTFY
If our January team shows up we win. If our February/March team shows up we lose in a blowout or heartbreaker. I am going with January as we beat Nova on their home court on my birthday. How's that for strategy.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2022, 09:23:32 PM
My thought is that while Black is certainly able to score (55% from 2 and 35% from 3), UNC's offense is not designed to get him shots. He's hit double digits in scoring in only 4 games this season and never more than 13 (and he needed to play 43 minutes for that one). If having Kolek sag off Leaky helps keep Bacot from touching the ball, I'm not sure Leaky will make them pay enough to not make it worth it.
I of course love the idea of getting Bacot into foul trouble but I don't think we've successfully got a big in foul trouble all season. Our PG passes out of drives 99% of the time and our two bigs aren't posting anyone up. We really only have three players capable of getting to the foul line consistently and one of them will have his hands full with Leaky all game. Greg has been playing terrible lately which would really leave it up to Morsell to try and attract Bacot on drives and get the contact. Bacot is on the slower side. Oso has been showing flashes of his driving game. This would be a great time for him to suddenly start taking opposing bigs off the bounce. Not expecting it though.
I don't know how many times I have seen players exceed their stats when they play MU. The key to this game is defense which has been non-existent of late.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 15, 2022, 12:35:09 AM
Good, though doesn't mean anything.
More curious to know where the sharps money is going
I've watched around 15 different bracket predictions and not a single one picked Marquette to beat UNC. I kinda like it that way.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2022, 09:24:18 AM
I don't know how many times I have seen players exceed their stats when they play MU. The key to this game is defense which has been non-existent of late.
I think the point is that you need to make them run it through their 4th or 5th option here. Black is the one you want to force shots out of over Love/Davis/Manek. Maybe he has a career game--but that can work if you make sure the others don't.
Per The Athletic:
QuoteBlack is not a confident shooter. Even this season, where he's made 35 percent of his 3s, he's still only taking one per game because it's clear he's just not quite ready to pull the trigger all the time even when open.
Sagging off Black and making him a shooter could allow his defender to sag off a bit when needed and double into Bacot when he gets the ball (or to prevent him from getting the ball). We play the best ball when connected like that. I think there are legs to the strategy of focusing on making Black "exceed his stats."
Well we're screwed!
Only four teams seeded lower than the No. 3 seed line have ever won the national title: one 4 seed (Arizona in 1997), one 6 seed (Kansas in 1988), one seven seed (UConn in 2014) and one 8 seed (Villanova in 1985).
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2022, 10:01:29 AM
Well we're screwed!
Only four teams seeded lower than the No. 3 seed line have ever won the national title: one 4 seed (Arizona in 1997), one 6 seed (Kansas in 1988), one seven seed (UConn in 2014) and one 8 seed (Villanova in 1985).
Damn! Thanks for ruining my day.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 15, 2022, 09:26:43 AM
I've watched around 15 different bracket predictions and not a single one picked Marquette to beat UNC. I kinda like it that way.
We are getting decent love through the field of 68 and all their guests.
Its Baylor thats getting a lot of flack. Most people I see have the winner of MU/UNC beating Baylor which is still bold even if they are the ideal top seed match up.
And I quite literally dont think I have seen someone with Baylor beating UCLA.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2022, 10:01:29 AM
Well we're screwed!
Only four teams seeded lower than the No. 3 seed line have ever won the national title: one 4 seed (Arizona in 1997), one 6 seed (Kansas in 1988), one seven seed (UConn in 2014) and one 8 seed (Villanova in 1985).
What seed was Marquette in 1977? Thought a pretty low seed since we were one of the last ones in i throught. 16?
Score more than the other team.
I'm going with whatever strategy Shaka comes up with.
Watching the team at MSG was not a lot of fun and I am hoping that the team's chemistry changes vs. NC. If they can get back to their January chemistry, we are in good shape. Then even if they fall behind, they could rally as they did earlier in the season, but I think we would need to stay within 10 points at the midpoint of the second half.
Dating back to when we started our run of good basketball, I have always felt the key for this team is getting off to hot start. Irealize that is not a deep dive into strategy, but their level of confidence when off to hot start is very high. Even the St. John's game when they started out 10-0 and let St. John's back in the game rather quickly their confidence level stayed high. I have had a positive or negative feeling on outcome of game quickly over the past two months. I am hoping they get to the basket early and take the lid off the hope in first couple of minutes.
Quote from: Goose on March 15, 2022, 10:47:19 AM
Dating back to when we started our run of good basketball, I have always felt the key for this team is getting off to hot start. Irealize that is not a deep dive into strategy, but their level of confidence when off to hot start is very high. Even the St. John's game when they started out 10-0 and let St. John's back in the game rather quickly their confidence level stayed high. I have had a positive or negative feeling on outcome of game quickly over the past two months. I am hoping they get to the basket early and take the lid off the hope in first couple of minutes.
I agree. Getting up early can pay in spades for Marquette. Making UNC be on their heels and looking for shots (ideally contested), or causing Love to be a slasher/driver and chuck up shots. It has a lot of benefit to speeding them up when they don't want to be (yes, I understand UNC is uptempo).
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2022, 09:31:30 PM
Our bigs need to show up Thurs. Tenacity, power, aggression, force, and intelligence, should be part of the conversation Shaka has with them. I expect 20 pts, 10 rebs, 4 blks.
And we definitely need the trey-bouchet to show up if we're really going to get medieval.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 15, 2022, 09:26:43 AM
I've watched around 15 different bracket predictions and not a single one picked Marquette to beat UNC. I kinda like it that way.
Norlander was leaning towards MU just because he thought too many others were taking UNC. He said there's usually an 8-9 game that everyone thinks will go one way, but doesn't.
To me this comes down to Tyler. I've defended him a bunch, and will continue to do so, but when things have gotten stressful at the end of the year he has gotten swept up in it and made some poor decisions. If he can keep a cool head and make the right play, I think MU has a real shot.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 15, 2022, 11:31:18 AM
Norlander was leaning towards MU just because he thought too many others were taking UNC. He said there's usually an 8-9 game that everyone thinks will go one way, but doesn't.
Steve Prohm likes us on field of 68. Feels like people are underestimating Morsell and Lewis and likes underdog shaka teams.
I'm hoping being an underdog and playing a blue blood program will help us relax a bit. It seems in our run when we weren't really expected to win, we played free and easy.
In the end of season stretch where we were expected to win, we played a little tight and went away from what brought us success.
That's at least my armchair analysis. Granted, being the NCAA tourney alone could make us tight.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 15, 2022, 10:28:48 AM
Damn! Thanks for ruining my day.
Look on the bright side 2 of those teams are in the BE and we could be the first 9 seed to win it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUUyRrTsR5Y&t=43s
3 man weave guys seem pretty high on us in the game.
2 all in and the other on the fence(doesnt like UNC giving 3)
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 15, 2022, 01:04:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUUyRrTsR5Y&t=43s
3 man weave guys seem pretty high on us in the game.
2 all in and the other on the fence(doesnt like UNC giving 3)
https://youtu.be/VUUyRrTsR5Y?t=883
This link will start at the MU/UNC talk.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2022, 07:53:31 AM
Big spender, hey?
$1977 spender.
See ... 1977 is the year Marquette won the national title. You might not have been aware of that.
You're welcome, nu?
Cant lose to UNC if we dont play them
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1504399140884725760
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2022, 09:35:24 AM
Cant lose to UNC if we dont play them
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1504399140884725760
bold strategy cotton let's see if it pays off
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2022, 09:35:24 AM
Cant lose to UNC if we dont play them
Counterpoint: Can't beat UNC if we don't play them.
Discuss.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 17, 2022, 10:14:34 AM
Counterpoint: Can't beat UNC if we don't play them.
Discuss.
Counter counter, UNC can't beat us if they don't play us
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2022, 09:35:24 AM
Cant lose to UNC if we dont play them
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1504399140884725760
Of course it's Rothstein. Honestly makes me feel better about today.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 17, 2022, 10:44:42 AM
Of course it's Rothstein. Honestly makes me feel better about today.
Give Jon a break, he was blinded by Rex's blazer.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2022, 11:19:05 AM
If MU doesn't have a big coaching advantage Thursday, we probably hired the wrong guy.
Hmm
Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2022, 01:27:09 PM
$1977 spender.
See ... 1977 is the year Marquette won the national title. You might not have been aware of that.
You're welcome, nu?
I was at the Omni on that memorable night. Didn't you see me storm the court when we won? Have a piece of the championship net secured in a safety deposit box, hey?