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Title: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: bradforster on March 08, 2022, 11:47:48 PM
At least one prognosticator believes the guys can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-b-HFt-FYQ

Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: Daniel on March 09, 2022, 12:00:53 AM
Here's hoping he's right! Go Marquette!  Let's beat Creighton.....!
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: DoctorV on March 09, 2022, 08:30:57 AM
Pretty bold take for a squad that can't even beat its first round opponent this season, aina?
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: cheebs09 on March 09, 2022, 09:12:20 AM
Quote from: DoctorV on March 09, 2022, 08:30:57 AM
Pretty bold take for a squad that can't even beat its first round opponent this season, aina?

He knows it's impossible to beat a team 3 times. That's why it was important for us to lose the second game to Providence.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: The Equalizer on March 09, 2022, 09:17:12 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2022, 09:12:20 AM
He knows it's impossible to beat a team 3 times. That's why it was important for us to lose the second game to Providence.

And be swept by UConn, in case they come out of the other side of the bracket.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2022, 10:07:20 AM
Normally the feeling of confidence is a good thing, but the last 8 years have trained me to panic when I get confident.

I actually think MU has a real chance to win this Tournament.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: mugrad_89 on March 09, 2022, 10:27:15 AM
The Creighton game has me a bit nervous because they have a knack for pulling shots out of their ass against us when needed.  If we get by them, I think we're in the championship game.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: mu_eyeballs on March 09, 2022, 11:30:33 AM
Except when we pull some crazy shots out of our A$$...

https://youtu.be/sk9_IA5-rD8
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 09, 2022, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 09, 2022, 10:27:15 AM
The Creighton game has me a bit nervous because they have a knack for pulling shots out of their ass against us when needed.  If we get by them, I think we're in the championship game.

It always seems that every poor shooter from beyond the arc becomes a 3pt maven against us. Its like there is a vacuum that just sucks the ball through the basket no matter how ridiculous the shot.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: WarriorFan on March 09, 2022, 11:59:10 AM
Not Important.

Get 1 win, then it doesn't matter.

What matters is the big dance.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 09, 2022, 11:59:10 AM
Not Important.

Get 1 win, then it doesn't matter.

What matters is the big dance.

I don't know that I'd say "Not Important," but like you I care a lot more about the NCAAT than the BET. I'd 100% trade a BET title for a Sweet 16 appearance.

But there's no law that says we can't have both, and they keep score, so we might as well win the deal!

We Are Marquette!
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 09, 2022, 01:02:00 PM
Looeyville and Pitt are the only non East Coast teams to ever win it.  For those of you who have been to the BET you know this... once a non East Coast team starts to do well in a game versus an East Coast team,  in turns into a home game for the East Coast team.

I just don't think Marquette is good enough to win 2 away games in the BET to win it.  Really hope I am wrong though.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: NCMUFan on March 09, 2022, 01:05:05 PM
Let's beat Creighton.  Then worry about the next game.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2022, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on March 09, 2022, 01:05:05 PM
Let's beat Creighton.  Then worry about the next game.

Pssst ... fans can "look past" games without affecting any results. Keep it low!
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: mu_eyeballs on March 09, 2022, 11:30:33 AM
Except when we pull some crazy shots out of our A$$...

https://youtu.be/sk9_IA5-rD8

Just to se the record straight. This was not crazy.  It was an incredibly well-designed Wojo play that had Joe Chartouney on the floor as a shooter/decoy with Markus Howard inbounding the ball to Sam Hauser.

OR...so said the Projos at the time and oddly, recently reiterated.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2022, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2022, 12:56:11 PM
I don't know that I'd say "Not Important," but like you I care a lot more about the NCAAT than the BET. I'd 100% trade a BET title for a Sweet 16 appearance.

But there's no law that says we can't have both, and they keep score, so we might as well win the deal!

We Are Marquette!

I used to not care about NCAA Tournaments when we were a lock. I completely changed my tune after watching UConn rip through the BET and then win it all with Kemba.

Now I'm all in on the BET. There's no guarantee what happens in March so might as well add a Championship to the Trophy Case.  Big East Champs in Shaka year 1 sounds AWESOME.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: wisblue on March 09, 2022, 01:16:40 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2022, 09:12:20 AM
He knows it's impossible to beat a team 3 times. That's why it was important for us to lose the second game to Providence.

A moderator on another site is dug in so deep on the opinion that it's hard to beat a team 3 times in a season that he is saying that MU will have more motivation to win tomorrow than Creighton will because CU has beaten MU twice. Never mind that CU might need a win to get in the NCAA and/or might be motivated to win a championship.

When I suggested that he should have his reporter at the BET ask Mc Dermott if he will have trouble motivating his players because they have already beaten MU twice he deleted the post. I think even he realizes  how absurd his position is, but it's easier to censor than to concede.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: wisblue on March 09, 2022, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
Just to se the record straight. This was not crazy.  It was an incredibly well-designed Wojo play that had Joe Chartouney on the floor as a shooter/decoy with Markus Howard inbounding the ball to Sam Hauser.

OR...so said the Projos at the time and oddly, recently reiterated.

It was also an incredibly stupid play by Creighton that gave MU the opportunity to make that play. If you recall, CU had the ball under the basket with 1 second left and threw the ball out of bounds untouched.

All they had to do was throw the ball to anyone (including an MU player) within the 3 point arc and there would have been no way to pass the ball out in time to get a shot off.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: fjm on March 09, 2022, 01:25:31 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
Just to se the record straight. This was not crazy.  It was an incredibly well-designed Wojo play that had Joe Chartouney on the floor as a shooter/decoy with Markus Howard inbounding the ball to Sam Hauser.

OR...so said the Projos at the time and oddly, recently reiterated.

You love Wojo. It's weird.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: wadesworld on March 09, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
Just to se the record straight. This was not crazy.  It was an incredibly well-designed Wojo play that had Joe Chartouney on the floor as a shooter/decoy with Markus Howard inbounding the ball to Sam Hauser.

OR...so said the Projos at the time and oddly, recently reiterated.

Would've been a great call to get your 5'10" guard the ball with no time to do anything but catch and shoot, while needing a 3 pointer.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2022, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: BLM on March 09, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
Would've been a great call to get your 5'10" guard the ball with no time to do anything but catch and shoot, while needing a 3 pointer.

Come on, man. It doesn't matter to Ners that the team's assist leader made a perfect pass to set up one of the most successful last-second plays in Marquette history.

Also, take his word for it that Awesome Dawson was better than Andrew Rowsey, and that Tyler Kolek is better than Markus, AR or Dom were.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: brewcity77 on March 09, 2022, 02:51:27 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 09, 2022, 01:02:00 PM
Looeyville and Pitt are the only non East Coast teams to ever win it.  For those of you who have been to the BET you know this... once a non East Coast team starts to do well in a game versus an East Coast team,  in turns into a home game for the East Coast team.

I just don't think Marquette is good enough to win 2 away games in the BET to win it.  Really hope I am wrong though.

Good news, Creighton won't matter, and pretty much everyone hates Providence, so we should have rooting interest until the Final. Guess we have to pull for DePaul to come out of the other half of the bracket, though.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 09, 2022, 03:00:53 PM
I'm not nearly as worried about how the East coast fans root as I am about how MU plays.

And anyhow, I have always believed home court advantage is more about familiarity and sightlines than fan noise. In that regard, it's a neutral court game unless we play St. John's. And if we play them, it will be on Saturday night, so I would take my chances
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: brewcity77 on March 09, 2022, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 09, 2022, 03:00:53 PM
I'm not nearly as worried about how the East coast fans root as I am about how MU plays.

And anyhow, I have always believed home court advantage is more about familiarity and sightlines than fan noise. In that regard, it's a neutral court game unless we play St. John's. And if we play them, it will be on Saturday night, so I would take my chances

It's kind of amazing just how bad St. John's has been at the BET considering it's always at MSG. Since winning it in 2000, they are 8-16 in the Big East Tournament, never winning more than one game and never advancing past the quarterfinals. I can't even imagine how we'd feel about a tournament like that played at the BC/FF every year for two decades.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 09, 2022, 03:24:52 PM
I'm just glad we avoid UConn until Saturday.  After a decade away, Huskies fans are going to absolutely pack MSG
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: jfp61 on March 09, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
Thursday and Friday are sold out
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 09, 2022, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: jfp61 on March 09, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
Thursday and Friday are sold out
Secondary market for Thursday night is a expensive ticket.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 04:15:52 PM
Quote from: BLM on March 09, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
Would've been a great call to get your 5'10" guard the ball with no time to do anything but catch and shoot, while needing a 3 pointer.
Quote from: MU82 on March 09, 2022, 02:37:43 PM
Come on, man. It doesn't matter to Ners that the team's assist leader made a perfect pass to set up one of the most successful last-second plays in Marquette history.

Also, take his word for it that Awesome Dawson was better than Andrew Rowsey, and that Tyler Kolek is better than Markus, AR or Dom were.

Like moths to a flame..two of the staunchest Projos still defending this dumb "play" design.   ::)

And 82, yes, Tyler Kolek is a better PG than than shoot first, first, and first "Point Guards" Markus Howard and Andrew Rowsey.  It's cool though, that NIT run was fun as were the two 30 point blowouts in the NCAA with their elite "point guard" play.

P.S. - That "incredible" inbound pass by Markus? The degree of difficulty was such that a middle school basketball player could make the same pass 9 out of 10 times.

Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: wadesworld on March 09, 2022, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 04:15:52 PM
Like moths to a flame..two of the staunchest Projos still defending this dumb "play" design.   ::)

And 82, yes, Tyler Kolek is a better PG than than shoot first, first, and first "Point Guards" Markus Howard and Andrew Rowsey.  It's cool though, that NIT run was fun as were the two 30 point blowouts in the NCAA with their elite "point guard" play.

P.S. - That "incredible" inbound pass by Markus? The degree of difficulty was such that a middle school basketball player could make the same pass 9 out of 10 times.

I'll take the 6'7" shooter trying to catch and shoot when you need a 3 pointer and have no time to put the ball on the ground over the 5'10" shooter in the same situation.  I know you once were an All North Woods Conference member who dunked in high school and nobody else here played basketball before in their life, but even someone with just basic common sense would understand this.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 09, 2022, 06:53:57 PM
The FOX panel at the start of the BET picked Marquette to win it. We are so jinxed methinks.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: We R Final Four on March 09, 2022, 07:10:23 PM
We just make too many little mistakes that add up over the course of a game to think that we can win 3 games against teams that know us so well.
I would think we have a better chance at the tourney.....would love that 7 seed though.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: MU82 on March 09, 2022, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 09, 2022, 04:15:52 PM
Like moths to a flame..two of the staunchest Projos still defending this dumb "play" design.   ::)

And 82, yes, Tyler Kolek is a better PG than than shoot first, first, and first "Point Guards" Markus Howard and Andrew Rowsey.  It's cool though, that NIT run was fun as were the two 30 point blowouts in the NCAA with their elite "point guard" play.

P.S. - That "incredible" inbound pass by Markus? The degree of difficulty was such that a middle school basketball player could make the same pass 9 out of 10 times.

Naturally, the obsessed Ners turns yet another thread that has nothing to do with past MU coaches into "Wojo sucks."

I can prove the play in question worked perfectly. You, on the other hand, will never be able to prove "anybody could have done it." No wonder it drives you crazy - you're perpetually wrong!

But hey, you thinking that any college coach would take Tyler Kolek over Markus Howard does help explain why you thought Dawson was better than Rowsey.
Title: Re: Marquette To Win Big East Tourney
Post by: Newsdreams on March 10, 2022, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: fjm on March 09, 2022, 01:25:31 PM
You love Wojo. It's weird.
Wojo is his man
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