It's time for a hammer performance. Let's go now!
Get the inside game going early. Rebounding will be key. And cause a lot of turnovers for DePaul and score in transition
Go Marquette,
Obviously hope I'm wrong but I feel like I'm walking into my dentist's office to get a filling
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 02, 2022, 08:09:59 PM
Obviously hope I'm wrong but I feel like I'm walking into my dentist's office to get a filling
Why's that?
Gotta play tough tonight
Because MU has a habit of playing down to DePaul's level and DePaul seems to actually suck less this year
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 02, 2022, 08:13:26 PM
Because MU has a habit of playing down to DePaul's level and DePaul seems to actually suck less this year
Less of a level to play down to!
Could help
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 08:13:57 PM
Less of a level to play down to!
Could help
I can work with that! Positive thoughts
Kolek really needs to eliminate the dribble into his own 3 pt shot with 20 seconds left on the clock. Hes like 10% on that shot.
Man, this color guy needs to slow down and take a breath.
jeez Kur
Sloppy play si far. Let's settle down
Theee ridiculously senseless turns. Focus, focus, focus, focus.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 02, 2022, 08:17:21 PM
Man, this color guy needs to slow down and take a breath.
So does Marquette!
Playin too fast
Playing too fast is a DePaul advantage. We need to push when possible and be methodical when. Ot. Go Marquette!
Lame call on Kur on the screen..looked completely set/legal
Is F-L really that much faster than the MU guys?
Ridiculous turn there by TK. They have 4 pts on live ball turns.
TK want to play next wednesday???
What on Earth is the Rush???
Ice cold
Terrible shot selection
Greg Elliott has been so bad.
He looks dead on every possession.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 08:24:36 PM
TK want to play next wednesday???
LOL..you can see how prolific this offense is with him off the floor.
I am shocked the Greg Kam Jop lineup didn't work defensively
This is embarrasing.
I don't know that you can even call what we are doing offense. And now its effecting the D.
Just cant play consistently sound basketball anymore
Once again, settling for 3's too early in the shot clock - need to work it inside.
Just allowed a 9-0 run for no reason known to man. Zero discipline, composure, or a scintilla of intelligence. Very, very, upsetting. Again, wtf is the rush? Whatever happened to ball movement and execution?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 02, 2022, 08:26:36 PM
Greg Elliott has been so bad.
He looks dead on every possession.
if his 3s arent falling its tough to see him out there for long
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 02, 2022, 08:23:29 PM
Is F-L really that much faster than the MU guys?
Yes, Bursts of speed hard to keep up with.
We are playing sloppy ball all around. Good time out
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 08:28:26 PM
Just allowed a 9-0 run for no reason known to man. Zero discipline, composure, or a scintilla of intelligence. Very, very, upsetting. Again, wtf is the rush? Whatever happened to ball movement and execution?
When we pass crisply and get the assists we usually win. You are right Muggsy
Wow. Ugly. This is a concerning trend.
Took four straight horrible shots. No touches for kam. No looks for oso going to the rim. The two most efficient offensive guys on the court there
Time to go to Stevie. Kolek can't guard anyone at the moment.
Mostly one on one off the bounce right now.
This team needs to wake the F' up. Horrible offensively.
Oso is a problem for opponents!
Why are they taking this much time on a review with 9:26 left in the 1sr half?
6 turnovers in 11 mins.
DePaul hitting prayers. Us running putrid offense.
Not a good receipe and not a sign the team wants to secure a bye.
Morsell can't dribble
Maybe those two chippies get us on track? Value the basketball.
He showed me
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 08:37:38 PM
DePaul hitting prayers. Us running putrid offense.
Not a good receipe and not a sign the team wants to secure a bye.
Jones and Liberty can be explosive.
We need Justin to impose his will.
And keep attacking the rim. This is another D that cant guard the drive.
Lewis is the best player on the court by a wide margin IMO.
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 02, 2022, 08:38:28 PM
Record speed for aging poorly?
The awkward dribbling threw off the defenders. 😊
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 02, 2022, 08:38:28 PM
Record speed for aging poorly?
No, because he really is a subpar ball handler.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 02, 2022, 08:31:42 PM
Time to go to Stevie. Kolek can't guard anyone at the moment.
LOL. Guess you don't see mismatches. Pretty sure Stevie wouldn't have stopped 6'6" Jones on that post up either.
Lot of chicken little posts so far during this game.
ND sucks
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 08:39:21 PM
Jones and Liberty can be explosive.
FL has like 2 points on the TK gift. We are stopping him. Getting beat by everyone else.
That drive by Justin was extremely impressive stuff
We are 9 for 11 inside the arc. 1 of those misses was a long off balance two by Morsell.
Attack, score.
That was absurd. So soft.
Quote from: bradforster on March 02, 2022, 08:40:00 PM
No, because he really is a subpar ball handler.
Humor, Brad. You seem unfamiliar with it.
Nice body control by DM there. Time to D up!!
Shaka is right, DPU doesn't play D if they don't score.
Would like slightly more control, but Omax needs to keep being aggressive tonight.
They dont have anyone that can stay in front of him.
STEVIE!
Did I just hear DePaul fans cheering when Morsell was shooting the FT? At an MU Chicago home game?
I would like to see Kam Jones get all of Greg Elliott's minutes. EDIT: Slotted ahead of Greg on the depth chart so to speak. Greg has a role, just think Kam is a better all around player.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 08:49:28 PM
I would like to see Kam Jones get all of Greg Elliott's minutes
the way gregs been shooting might be an arguement.
Stevie obviously has to work on the jumper. But hes pretty darn good around the rim.
Doesn't take many shots in general. But seems to make shots when he does drive or at least get fouled.
Man. Right idea there for JLew but no need to zip the pass.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 08:54:28 PM
Man. Right idea there for JLew but no need to zip the pass.
Yup bummer.
Thought he was gonna force the 3. Backed down the little guy and drew the help. Just riffled it too hard.
Love the smarts of the play though.
Oso has awful hands
Oso is in over his head
All about the turns right now. I think we have 8 or 9.
Oso, learn to simply catch the ball and you will score 4 more pts a game. Regardless of your weight.
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 02, 2022, 08:55:37 PM
Oso has awful hands
I'm honestly wondering if he needs glasses.
I was wondering if F-L was related to Marcus Liberty
Keep attacking.
Ughh. Didn't need that shot from Kam. Wasn't there.
Shaka has to start screaming slow down!!!
Was that a foul on Omax?
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 02, 2022, 08:55:37 PM
Oso has awful hands
Guards need to better realize how to interior pass. Can't rifle the ball at a big from 2 feet away. Especially if they aren't fully expecting the ball.
Gotta settle down a bit there. Had a chance to get some seperation and really rushed those looks.
Keep driving!
what is going on?
F-L is bleeding from 7 or 8 locations
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 09:00:04 PM
Ughh. Didn't need that shot from Kam. Wasn't there.
That was a rhythm killer that led to a two for one opportunity for DePaul. No reason for that shot.
Dammit!!
Not a fan of missed dunks
Should be up about 13. Gotta focus.
Quote from: forgetful on March 02, 2022, 09:01:38 PM
Guards need to better realize how to interior pass. Can't rifle the ball at a big from 2 feet away. Especially if they aren't fully expecting the ball.
They run primarily a high pick and roll offense. If you're playing the 5 in a pick and roll, I hope to god you're expecting the ball when you roll to the basket.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 02, 2022, 09:03:46 PM
Not a fan of missed dunks
I'm guessing you didn't enjoy this years NBA Dunk Contest.
Good lord Oso.
Osa has to be tougher. Morsell playing great tonight. Overall team looks hungry, exhausting 1st half! Also, the color analyst is really good, fun to listen to these guys
Justin and Darryl to take over on half two.
Quote from: forgetful on March 02, 2022, 09:05:03 PM
I'm guessing you didn't enjoy this years NBA Dunk Contest.
Didn't see it. But I should probably be more precise in that I'm not a fan of missed MU dunks
Played shitty, DePaul played shittier. Up 4. Let's hope yet again for Marquette improvement.
Great defensive effort
MU killed themselves with nine turnovers and shooting 2 for 9 in threes. A lot of jackups early. Add in a miss dunk, a pass deflected that would have been a dunk, and a Kolek to DePaul layup. That's six points there.
One offensive bound for MU.
Give it to Lewis inside, he's destroying them.
oso needs some lbs
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 02, 2022, 09:06:15 PM
Didn't see it. But I should probably be more precise in that I'm not a fan of missed MU dunks
Well technically Juan Toscano Anderson was responsible for a lot of the misses.
Up 4, not much from Kur and Oso. Regroup and refocus. But up 4. Gonna need some Joplin, Jones, Kolek scoring contributions. Go MU!
This has been a fun game to watch so far
I have a terrible feeling about this second half.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 09:16:38 PM
I have a terrible feeling about this second half.
Usually we play better the second half. Let's get this done and win this one!
Attack relentlessly but under control. It's also time to hit a few threes.
Will the whistles come out in the 2nd half?
KURRRRR!!!
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 09:16:38 PM
I have a terrible feeling about this second half.
I don't. Think a lot of Scoopers still have PTSD from the Wojo years. DePaul is a solid team, playing at home, yet in my opinion we should be up 10 at this point. Our D has been really disruptive. Need O-Max on Jones. Morsell continuing to lockup Freeman-Liberty. Oso will be better this half, and I expect more from Kam.
I don't get that shot from Kolek.
WTF??? Where's the foul??
SUPER late foul call
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 09:23:39 PM
I don't get that shot from Kolek.
They have got to get him to stop doing that. Its such a selfish shot.
HIs 3s can be catch and shoot only
They play undisciplined enough!!
There have been some of the most bizarre calls in this game.
Phantom call
That call was like 5 seconds late and looked like he was calling it on the floor.
There we go Oso!
Terrible call
On that Kolek shot, why did lewis and morsell just stand at half court? Is that why he pulled morsell
God almighty, has the 3-second rule been waived for DePaul tonight?
Officiating has been...interesting
Kolek is playing too fast and trying to do way too much. Move the freaking basketball and get Lewis touches in the wide post. We're playing in spurts and need to be for more disciplined in general
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 02, 2022, 09:28:06 PM
Officiating has been...interesting
So many late calls. The foul on Omax instead of a held ball was an all timer.
Kolek just not right. Airhead plays hurting.
Morsell sits, Elliott on LF, not good.
Get lead to 6 or 7 and just can't extend. Turnover, stupid shots which keep it close.
Here come the refs.......
Whistles are loud vs Marquette. Wow. Have to play better than officials. Let's settle down and get to the hoop.
That will not be in Greg's defensive highlight reel
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 02, 2022, 09:29:51 PM
So many late calls. The foul on Omax instead of a held ball was an all timer.
My favorite was the call that Morsell stepped on the baseline, by the ref half way to half court, who couldn't even see his feet and blew the whistle when both his feet were 1.5 feet away from the baseline.
Meanwhile, the baseline ref was looking right at his feet and didn't blow the whistle.
If Greg isn't going to add anything offensively, he can't be in there
Ughh.
Up 7 with the ball
Now down 2...
Just cannot consistently play good ball anymore
Greg's ankle looked like it snapped
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 09:32:55 PM
Up 7 with the ball
Now down 2...
Just cannot consistently play good ball anymore
Make that 5.
What a joke
pass the effin ball off that rebound lewis. wth
Greg and Kolek are unplayable.
From up 7 to down 5 in 70 seconds?
Exactly what I was afraid of. Let them hit a couple and it's gonna be hard to stop it.
We are in big, big trouble.
Kolek isn't playing good enough to act like such an a**hole.
Just makes him look like a punk.
my gosh what has happened to this team, seems to be forever since we have played well. just not elliott's night, why is he getting so many minutes?
Creighton about to beat UCONN.
Elliott burned on defense, then two bad offensive possessions, leads to 8 points for DePaul. Not good.
No good - need Lewis to take over. Greg is out of it. Put Kam in and get him some shots wow
0 fouls for DePaul this half.
We should be able to shut them down
DePaul is making some bombs
Good god this team. Stealing mediocrity from jaws of a very nice season.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 02, 2022, 09:34:53 PM
my gosh what has happened to this team, seems to be forever since we have played well. just not elliott's night, why is he getting so many minutes?
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Up 7 with the ball and Morsell throws an errant pass in the paint. The game hasn't been in MU's favor since.
kolek wtf, freaking terrible
They wont miss
We are about to get boat raced.
8 pt game now
Yes, let's get in a 3pt shootout with them
Not looking good. DePaul going nuts on 3's and we're getting too far behind.
Brutal. Absolutely brutal. Gotta punch back.
Kolek is a damn clown. Sit his ass on the bench. Selfish jack ass right now. Stop shooting.
season imploding again, we have seen this before........
Some of the dumbest basketball ever packed into 2 minutes of game time
Kolek has a thing for throwing it towards the other teams basket.
DePaul scoring every possession now.
Really a brutal effort this half.
No idea what Kolek is doing tonight. It's an unmitigated disaster.
The mark of a good coach is the team gets better throughout the season.
kolek just sux tonight
Uh oh
Quote from: warriors141 on March 02, 2022, 09:38:35 PM
season imploding again, we have seen this before........
No, this version of Marquette is different!
Omg
Let a mediocre team hang around and this is what can happen. Horrible.
Welp.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 09:38:55 PM
DePaul scoring every possession now.
Really a brutal effort this half.
Our transition defense is a huge problem among other things
Like to see Shaka do something??? My goodness !! Like watching a car crash
Oso is so weak
Could lose by 20+ at this rate.
Good grief - this team needs to wake the f$$$ up.
Remember when this was our easy part of the schedule??
Get blitzed by DePaul and Butler.
Just call the game if this is gonna be the effort. Stevie launching air balls and Depaul driving to the rim again.
DePaul with one foul in the half and MU will have 7 next possession. DePaul is typically a poor FT shooting team. Maybe they regress to the mean.
might be the worst 2 minutes of basketball i have watched all season
Whew, had this thing under control and now we're getting our doors blown off. I mean we always lose to depual at least once per year so...this still stings.
Turning this one off - savor that Butler win, maybe the last one this year. Team blows 16-2 run, really disappointing finisih to the season - but hey, they will turn it on any minute.
18-2 run over 2 and half min? What a joke...
Marquette is piss poor defensively
Quote from: warriors141 on March 02, 2022, 09:40:53 PM
might be the worst 2 minutes of basketball i have watched all season
Abysmal.
26 points allowed in six minutes. Absolutely awful
It's Woj Turn Back the Clock Night!
Scoopers would rather have Stevie Mitchell than Chucky Hepburn?
Really?
Greg handed them 7 points. And shooting 5-6 from 3 makes anyone look good.
depaul not even hitting the rim on these deep 3s. tip the cap i guess. 10 seed here we come
Undescribable how embarrassing this one is. Get ready for Gtown on Wednesday night.
Of course Terry who typically sucks wont miss.
Damn Scoop is weak..total meltdown here. The Kolek hate is ridiculous.
Seriously mods, do we need a Badger troll here?
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 09:43:43 PM
Undescribable how embarrassing this one is. Get ready for Gtown on Wednesday night.
Of course Terry who typically sucks wont miss.
Oh relax.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 09:43:55 PM
Damn Scoop is weak..total meltdown here. The Kolek hate is ridiculous.
Seriously. Bunch of wet cats.
Lot of time to pull this out.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 02, 2022, 09:42:37 PM
Scoopers would rather have Stevie Mitchell than Chucky Hepburn?
Really?
No one cares about the badgers. Go away
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 09:43:55 PM
Damn Scoop is weak..total meltdown here. The Kolek hate is ridiculous.
Kolek tonight is one of the more embarrassing efforts ive seen from a player in a over a decade.
Head case needing to be restrained from his teammates. Moronic passes. Matador D. And probably the most selfish shot selection ive seen.
DePaul is a dangerous team which had to tow the line while JFL was injured and now is playing as good as anyone else in the BE. They will be a tough out in the BET
We got this.
The turns are infuriating.
Quote from: Daniel on March 02, 2022, 09:44:59 PM
Lot of time to pull this out.
Dude, we cant even get 1 stop. Much less like 10 in a row.
Depaul has scored on like 12 straight possessions I think.
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 02, 2022, 09:44:43 PM
Seriously. Bunch of wet cats.
I think it is mostly frustration in terms of here we go again with an end of season collapse. A wojo staple and its not looking so hot for shaka right now.......
DePaul scored 33 pts in the 1st half and 33 pts in the 1st half of the 2nd half
Falling apart defensively the second half of the season is the most concerning thing.
This team had a great January, but I don't see it doing anything in the tournament.
I'd love to be wrong, but the defense has been terrible lately.
This has become a total embarrassment. There's no way to sugarcoat what's we're witnessing.
this is just a joke. i dont faith for the post season. team just isnt the same as 5 weeks ago
Worst effort and performance I've seen from an MU team in a long time. Pathetic and embarrassing.
now getting very embarrassing, can't even describe the lack or effort and poor basketball being played. team has given up. shaka keeping the wojo tradition alive?
I can't believe what I'm watching. Embarrassment.
Outplayed.
Outworked.
Outsmarted.
Outcoached.
We are going to lose to DePail again - we have lost to them more than any other team in the BE since we both joined.
Total team breakdown on all fronts. 17 down to DePaul Wow. Our late season has shown some ugly play.
Need to make this a game
This second half performance is as bad a half as anything that Wojo presided over.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2022, 09:45:34 PM
Kolek tonight is one of the more embarrassing efforts ive seen from a player in a over a decade.
Head case needing to be restrained from his teammates. Moronic passes. Matador D. And probably the most selfish shot selection ive seen.
LOL. Don't further illustrate your ignorance with dumb posts like this. Not his best game, and you can see the consequence of Kolek not being elite.
Pitiful and sad.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 02, 2022, 09:49:07 PM
This team had a great January, but I don't see it doing anything in the tournament.
I'd love to be wrong, but the defense has been terrible lately.
tournament? As in, NIT?
Announcer just said "This stunning". It is. These guys think they are better than they are. No fight like there was earlier in the year. Embarrassing. I hope they find it.
A young team that peaked too early unfortunately.
A young team not playing March basketball like you need to to win.
Saved by the bell. This isn't a tournament team if the season is 2 games longer.
would be nice to ask shaka what the hell has happened to this team?
Going to get dusted by St John's as well🙁
We are playing our way into Dayton.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 09:51:56 PM
LOL. Don't further illustrate your ignorance with dumb posts like this. Not his best game, and you can see the consequence of Kolek not being elite.
He's been miserable. So has everyone else besides Lewis in the first half. It's fine to admit that.
Certainly hope Shaka can recruit over him.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 09:51:56 PM
LOL. Don't further illustrate your ignorance with dumb posts like this. Not his best game, and you can see the consequence of Kolek not being elite.
Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 02, 2022, 09:46:13 PM
DePaul is a dangerous team which had to tow the line while JFL was injured and now is playing as good as anyone else in the BE. They will be a tough out in the BET
Of all the excuses I was expecting to hear, "DePaul is actually good" wasn't one of them.
Quote from: Norm on March 02, 2022, 09:52:52 PM
We are playing our way into Dayton.
No, we're not.
Quote from: Viper on March 02, 2022, 09:52:06 PM
tournament? As in, NIT?
lol this team is a stone cold lock.
I honestly expected to lose this game but the way in which we're doing it is rough. Obviously hoped to be wrong.
But this team is a 10 seed floor even with 2 more losses in a row.
The receht theme I see is a lack of composure or frankly panicking when the opponent hits a few shots. No discipline at all.
we are safely in, and the way it is going may likely get crushed in the first round. Deja vu of the year with Howard and the Hausers
4/19 from 3 yikes
At this point I really don't look forward to this team in the NCAA
Sean Jones will get lots of playing time next year, does the shooting coach try and tell Kolek to stop shooting line drive shots!
Can't win on the road
Wow....just wow.
Or hard to make a lay up!
Quote from: warriors141 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:59 PM
we are safely in, and the way it is going may likely get crushed in the first round. Deja vu of the year with Howard and the Hausers
Not even close to that year but sure.
Kolek has not been good for weeks.
Rough, rough, game for Kolek. When he plays like this way we have enormous problems.
You could see that backdoor play coming a mile away and somehow MU wasn't prepared
Time to dust off the Georgetown scouting report for a game next Wednesday.
Ellis must be gone
Or turn your head and lose your man!
Quote from: Viper on March 02, 2022, 09:55:57 PM
mom know you're up this late ?
Want me to say hi to yours?
Really? I guess I should expect you can't do any better than a mom joke.
Kolek can't make layups. Morsell can't dribble or even run straight. This sucks lol
Embarassing display from Scoop posters. Rough game yes. A reason to just think the season is doomed and we are one and one in the NCAA? Overreaction city.
They may score 60 this half!!
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:00:50 PM
Embarassing display from Scoop posters. Rough game yes. A reason to just think the season is doomed and we are one and one in the NCAA? Overreaction city.
At this point anyone who expects a win in the tournament needs their head checked
17 turns is the biggest story. It led to a myriad of other problems. Most were self-inflicted.
Or Oso playing shadow D!
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 02, 2022, 09:47:46 PM
Falling apart defensively the second half of the season is the most concerning thing.
It's not like we haven't seen it before.
What did The Who sing many years ago, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 02, 2022, 09:59:38 PM
Want me to say hi to yours?
Really? I guess I should expect you can't do any better than a mom joke.
im fine with banter. Joking. All good. But that one? Maybe a little below board.
Creighton's is now the 3 seed in big east tournament, UCONN the 4,Shaka is purposely losing so we play Creighton
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:00:50 PM
Embarassing display from Scoop posters. Rough game yes. A reason to just think the season is doomed and we are one and one in the NCAA? Overreaction city.
I mean this half has been worse than any I remember, and it's against DePaul... I'm not sure anything written on a message board can be an overreaction to this dumpster fire of a half.
A "lock" for big dance? Someone might have grabbed a bolt cutters tonight.
Worst game of the year by far. Going to bed. No fire. No chip on the shoulder. Disappointed.
Quote from: Viper on March 02, 2022, 10:04:40 PM
im fine with banter. Joking. All good. But that one? Maybe a little below board.
Apologies for offending your delicate sensibilities.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 09:16:38 PM
I have a terrible feeling about this second half.
I blame you
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:00:50 PM
Embarassing display from Scoop posters. Rough game yes. A reason to just think the season is doomed and we are one and one in the NCAA? Overreaction city.
What other kinds of reasons would you be looking for at this point in the season, exactly? Is there a strong recent history of Marquette teams suddenly figuring it out late in the season and turning on the afterburners?
What an awful showing
Season is not doomed but we just got waxed by a bad DePaul team. I would say expectations are not high right now for the ncaa tourney.
Quote from: IL Warrior on March 02, 2022, 10:05:06 PM
I mean this half has been worse than any I remember, and it's against DePaul... I'm not sure anything written on a message board can be an overreaction to this dumpster fire of a half.
Agreed - this embarrassment of a second half has been the result of carelessness, and lack of effort and focus. Mitchell looks like the only player who's given a rat's ass this half.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:00:50 PM
Embarassing display from Scoop posters. Rough game yes. A reason to just think the season is doomed and we are one and one in the NCAA? Overreaction city.
I don't see an overreaction. I see a team that continues to regress. Even the home win vs. Butler was poorly executed for much of the game. What about this final stretch of regular season games gives you optimism for the post season?
welp heres the meaningless garbage time run. team turning it on too late.
Nice to see Stevie Mitchell play well
What do you even say to your team after a clown show like that. I guess if you're Shaka you look inward because this collapse is too widespread for attribute to individual players.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 02, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
Agreed - this embarrassment of a second half has been the result of carelessness, and lack of effort and focus. Mitchell looks like the only player who's given a rat's ass this half.
I don't see a lot of cohesion and I'm not sure why we have gone off the rails,.Especially defensively.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 02, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
Agreed - this embarrassment of a second half has been the result of carelessness, and lack of effort and focus. Mitchell looks like the only player who's given a rat's ass this half.
He has earned a ton of minutes going forward based on his last 2 performances IMO. Arguably our best player over that span.
Quote from: Shark on March 02, 2022, 10:02:03 PM
At this point anyone who expects a win in the tournament needs their head checked
Jesus. Embarrassing. The team has had 1 bad conference loss prior to this game - Butler on the road. DePaul isn't a slouch team with Freeman Liberty.
59 points allowed in the second half.
Not good.
Elon - since Feb 2 beating Villanova, this team has play like dog crap. But keep telling yourself they are going to turn it on.
Quote from: IL Warrior on March 02, 2022, 10:05:06 PM
I mean this half has been worse than any I remember, and it's against DePaul... I'm not sure anything written on a message board can be an overreaction to this dumpster fire of a half.
Quote from: GLlanas on March 02, 2022, 10:06:30 PM
What other kinds of reasons would you be looking for at this point in the season, exactly? Is there a strong recent history of Marquette teams suddenly figuring it out late in the season and turning on the afterburners?
Jesus...it's a different team..a different coach. DePaul played really well..we didn't play well. It happens. It's one freaking game.
Nice to see Kam Jones first points at the 3 second mark
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:12:29 PM
Jesus. Embarrassing. The team has had 1 bad conference loss prior to this game - Butler on the road. DePaul isn't a slouch team with Freeman Liberty.
This team hasn't looked good even at home vs GTown or Butler. They are bad. It sucks
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:14:22 PM
Jesus...it's a different team..a different coach. DePaul played really well..we didn't play well. It happens. It's one freaking game.
It's not 1 game. We've played like dog crap for a month
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:14:22 PM
Jesus...it's a different team..a different coach. DePaul played really well..we didn't play well. It happens. It's one freaking game.
One game yes, but the trend over the last month has not been encouraging.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:12:29 PM
Jesus. Embarrassing. The team has had 1 bad conference loss prior to this game - Butler on the road. DePaul isn't a slouch team with Freeman Liberty.
It only looks bad when you factor in all the other bad games recently. Otherwise, everything looks really good right now.
Stevie should get Gregs minutes ! ! ! 8-)
Quote from: Afroman on March 02, 2022, 10:13:14 PM
59 points allowed in the second half.
Not good.
Not good at all. Frankly beyond belief.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 10:16:56 PM
Not good at all. Frankly beyond belief.
Getting beat down the floor consistently for layups and dunks is effort and awareness. That's not acceptable and should be correctable.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:12:29 PM
DePaul isn't a slouch team with Freeman Liberty.
They're a tremendous slouch with or without Freeman-Liberty.
This isn't simply matter of MU losing. They've been dismantled in every facet of the game, from execution to effort to coaching.
Yep, just 1 game. Except they are 2-3 in the last 5 games the dregs of the BE. And likely to be piss pounded by St Johns on Saturday (if the level of play continues)
Wojo-esque season ending in the making
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:14:22 PM
Jesus...it's a different team..a different coach. DePaul played really well..we didn't play well. It happens. It's one freaking game.
Last time I felt like this and posted like this was during the Creighton game AT HOME. Scoop was in absolute meltdown. Maybe I'll go bump that thread...and Scoopers can read the doom and gloom prognostications.
Quote from: Fred Garvin on March 02, 2022, 10:04:49 PM
Creighton's is now the 3 seed in big east tournament, UCONN the 4,Shaka is purposely losing so we play Creighton
Nope UConn still 3
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:12:29 PM
Jesus. Embarrassing. The team has had 1 bad conference loss prior to this game - Butler on the road. DePaul isn't a slouch team with Freeman Liberty.
Do you watch the games? This team hasn't looked good in over a month. We all want MU to win every game they play. But it's ok to watch them play lately and admit it's been trash for weeks.
Posted this on another board, but I really think the physicality of a BE season has worn on them. Especially since a bunch of them have never been through it.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 02, 2022, 10:19:09 PM
Yep, just 1 game. Except they are 2-3 in the last 5 games the dregs of the BE. And likely to be piss pounded by St Johns on Saturday (if the level of play continues)
Wojo-esque season ending in the making
Surprised to see you melting down. We aren't going to get piss pounded Saturday.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 10:21:17 PM
Posted this on another board, but I really think the physicality of a BE season has worn on them. Especially since a bunch of them have never been through it.
Fair point, especially when fouls aren't being called for said play.
Disappointed in some of the terrible passes Kolek tries, his fundamentals in passing in the air is something your taught not to do, question his basketball IQ right now, and that missed layup tops it off.
Can Sean Jones start over Kolek next year?
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 02, 2022, 10:23:00 PM
Disappointed in some of the terrible passes Kolek tries, his fundamentals in passing in the air is something your taught not to do, question his basketball IQ right now, and that missed layup tops it off.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 02, 2022, 10:20:11 PM
Do you watch the games? This team hasn't looked good in over a month. We all want MU to win every game they play. But it's ok to watch them play lately and admit it's been trash for weeks.
Do you want me to go re-post all your whining from November and December? Saying how much the team sucked?
UCONN lost at Creighton tonight with Creighton's backup freshman PG playing. It's a long season. It's a tough league. We laid an egg tonight. Did Providence go fold their tent after we beat them by 40 at home? Rick Pitino said every year you'd have one game that is just a clunker. This was ours. But, DePaul is not a slouch team.
"Trash for weeks." Drama queen.
Looks like Kolek is playing scared and Elliot is out of sorts as well
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 10:21:17 PM
Posted this on another board, but I really think the physicality of a BE season has worn on them. Especially since a bunch of them have never been through it.
They got out-everythinged by a team that's 6-13 in the conference with very little to play for.
If they can't handle the physicality of a BE season, they're not BE players.
The defense has been awful since the second Villanova game.
Quote from: Ardmore Mug on March 02, 2022, 10:16:51 PM
Stevie should get Gregs minutes ! ! ! 8-)
I should get Greg's minutes.
Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 02, 2022, 10:25:47 PM
Looks like Kolek is playing scared and Elliot is out of sorts as well
Elliott just can't be playing point guard and handling the ball.
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 02, 2022, 10:26:07 PM
They got out-everythinged by a team that's 6-13 in the conference with very little to play for.
If they can't handle the physicality of a BE season, they're not BE players.
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Well said. They had almost a full week to get ready for the Butler game and they've had several days off before this one tonight. Why are young athletes "wearing down" in a 30 game season? That's just daft commentary!
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:25:40 PM
UCONN lost at Creighton tonight with Creighton's backup freshman PG playing. It's a long season. It's a tough league. We laid an egg tonight. Did Providence go fold their tent after we beat them by 40 at home? Rick Pitino said every year you'd have one game that is just a clunker. This was ours. But, DePaul is not a slouch team.
"Trash for weeks." Drama queen.
You're really making this comparison?
UCONN lost by
two to a Creighton team that recently went into Chicago and beat DePaul by 12.
And rather than the players rolling over when things got tough and the coaching staff being unable to come up with any answers, UConn stormed back and nearly won after being down by 16 points in that game.
Please inform KenPom, who has DePaul ranked 102nd, and Bart Torvik, who has them 107th, of how the Blue Demons are no slouch.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 02, 2022, 10:20:09 PM
Nope UConn still 3
Nope. Right now Creighton is 3rd. They beat UCONN twice and have the tiebreaker.
Quote from: MDMU04 on March 02, 2022, 10:26:07 PM
They got out-everythinged by a team that's 6-13 in the conference with very little to play for.
If they can't handle the physicality of a BE season, they're not BE players.
Rookies struggle with that all the time in the NBA. Are they not NBA players?
A lot of guys on this roster are playing a lot of minutes at a higher level than they ever have. And on the whole they've acquitted themselves quite well. Just think they've hit the wall. Since the Nova game the defense and three point shooting have tanked.
A tournament team should not be losing to a team that is 6-13 in conference play. That is not an excusable loss. Im not sure what to think given how good they played in Jan.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2022, 10:38:32 PM
Nope. Right now Creighton is 3rd. They beat UCONN twice and have the tiebreaker.
BE site doing a bad job with standings
Quote from: MU24 on March 02, 2022, 10:56:53 PM
A tournament team should not be losing to a team that is 6-13 in conference play. That is not an excusable loss. Im not sure what to think given how good they played in Jan.
It's an excusable loss under some circumstances. Every team plays a clunker on the road every so often. It's just that this is now a 5 game losing streak on the road and the only 2 wins have been grind it out games against horrible Q3 and Q4 teams.
The plan now is to use Georgetown as a warmup before playing Creighton the next day.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 10:21:17 PM
Posted this on another board, but I really think the physicality of a BE season has worn on them. Especially since a bunch of them have never been through it.
Thanks, Doddsie, but I'm not buying the "tired legs" syndrome that seems to be a staple on the other Board
Let's get a win on Senior Day and feel better about life!
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2022, 10:47:31 PM
Rookies struggle with that all the time in the NBA. Are they not NBA players?
A lot of guys on this roster are playing a lot of minutes at a higher level than they ever have. And on the whole they've acquitted themselves quite well. Just think they've hit the wall. Since the Nova game the defense and three point shooting have tanked.
The college basketball season is like 35 games. The NBA season is 82 and every game is 20% longer. Rookie burnout in the NBA is a thing because the season is almost 3 times as long.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 02, 2022, 11:04:12 PM
Thanks, Doddsie, but I'm not buying the "tired legs" syndrome that seems to be a staple on the other Board
Look, normally I'd be right there with you. I rolled my eyes at it a bunch.
But when I see the jump shooting numbers and defensive efficiency dropping like a rock, against lesser competition, it's fatigue, the regression express coming into station, or a combination of the two.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:25:40 PM
Do you want me to go re-post all your whining from November and December? Saying how much the team sucked?
UCONN lost at Creighton tonight with Creighton's backup freshman PG playing. It's a long season. It's a tough league. We laid an egg tonight. Did Providence go fold their tent after we beat them by 40 at home? Rick Pitino said every year you'd have one game that is just a clunker. This was ours. But, DePaul is not a slouch team.
"Trash for weeks." Drama queen.
Go ahead. The team did suck in November and December. They figured it out in Jan and looked really good for a month. And they sucked again in February. They did enough to January to limp into the tournament, but yes, they've been trash for weeks. They're 2-4 in their last 6 with wins over a winless Gtown team and bad Butler team, both games in which MU did not look good. They've also lost to Butler and Depaul in that time, giftwrapped Creighton a huge W and got outclassed by UCONN. So yes, they've been mostly terrible for a month now. Sorry facts offend you.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 02, 2022, 10:25:40 PM
Do you want me to go re-post all your whining from November and December? Saying how much the team sucked?
UCONN lost at Creighton tonight with Creighton's backup freshman PG playing. It's a long season. It's a tough league. We laid an egg tonight. Did Providence go fold their tent after we beat them by 40 at home? Rick Pitino said every year you'd have one game that is just a clunker. This was ours. But, DePaul is not a slouch team.
"Trash for weeks." Drama queen.
Then what was @Butler?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 03, 2022, 08:37:06 AM
Go ahead. The team did suck in November and December. They figured it out in Jan and looked really good for a month. And they sucked again in February. They did enough to January to limp into the tournament, but yes, they've been trash for weeks. They're 2-4 in their last 6 with wins over a winless Gtown team and bad Butler team, both games in which MU did not look good. They've also lost to Butler and Depaul in that time, giftwrapped Creighton a huge W and got outclassed by UCONN. So yes, they've been mostly terrible for a month now. Sorry facts offend you.
I
really wish I could disagree with this, but I can't. At this point, I just hope that that MU responds to this loss they way they responded to the first Creighton loss. I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic. But I wasn't optimistic on January 2, either.