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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1SE on February 15, 2022, 10:35:33 AM

Poll
Question: Which of our remaining games is the most important to win?
Option 1: Georgetown. Can't have a Q4 loss. votes: 59
Option 2: Creighton. Need that last Q1 win. votes: 30
Option 3: Butler. MUST. HAVE. REVENGE. votes: 7
Option 4: DePaul. Ugh, DePaul. Can't lose to DePaul. votes: 5
Option 5: SJU. Heading into the tourneys off a win is key. votes: 2
Title: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: 1SE on February 15, 2022, 10:35:33 AM
Of course we're going to win all 5, but which of our remaining games do you think is most important and why?

For me it's tomorrow's game. We can absorb one more loss and probably be fine - unless that loss is Georgetown. The beauty of our many-loss resume is that we've avoided bad losses while raking up lots of good wins. As of today St Bonnies are back to a Q2 loss and Butler, ugly as it was, was only a Q2 loss.

But Georgetown would be a Q4. And it's almost guaranteed to end up on that. I think a loss to Georgetown does more damage to our ultimate seeding than to any other team and, for that reason, it's the most important game.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: Daniel on February 15, 2022, 10:37:15 AM
The next one!
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: CountryRoads on February 15, 2022, 10:38:09 AM
I think we need 2 more wins to make the tournament. Any of those 2 gets us in, in my opinion. Why not get the first one tomorrow?
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: cschor on February 15, 2022, 10:42:48 AM
Absolutely correct, the next one!
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 15, 2022, 10:53:11 AM
All of them.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: bilsu on February 15, 2022, 12:12:17 PM
I work with a DePaul grad, so I voted DePaul.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: wisblue on February 15, 2022, 04:54:44 PM
Regardless of whether tomorrow's game is the most important, I think it is very pivotal.

Not only would a loss be a brutal black mark on MU's resume, but coming on the heels of last Saturday's dreary performance, it would signal that the team has hit a wall and might have trouble winning too many more the rest of the way.

It would be a shame to see this exciting season come to an end with a thud. Tomorrow is a golden opportunity to get back on track.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on February 15, 2022, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: wisblue on February 15, 2022, 04:54:44 PM
Regardless of whether tomorrow's game is the most important, I think it is very pivotal.

Not only would a loss be a brutal black mark on MU's resume, but coming on the heels of last Saturday's dreary performance, it would signal that the team has hit a wall and might have trouble winning too many more the rest of the way.

It would be a shame to see this exciting season come to an end with a thud. Tomorrow is a golden opportunity to get back on track.

I would be shocked if we lost but yes, it would be brutal. After Creighton ran up a 23 point lead early in the 2nd half, GT got it down to 6 late in the game (would have been even closer if Big Foot Ewing had not gotten the T for tripping the Creighton player). Then they blew their chance of an upset by playing like, well, GT.

I think that some recent performances by DePaul and St. Johns are concerning. Just because they have poor season records does not mean that they cannot be a threat now. Ask UCONN fans what they thought about the St. Johns game.

While I'm still optimistic overall in our next 5 games, I need to add the adjective "cautiously" before optimistic.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: Goose on February 15, 2022, 05:46:21 PM
IMO, I will like to see the guys win at Creighton. The first game should have been a win for MU and I think many would have expected there going into the season. To me, that is a game I am focusing on to see how they finish the regular season and get ready for the big dance. We have played the toughest part of our schedule with only the Butler mishap and now time to take care of business.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: PointWarrior on February 15, 2022, 06:25:18 PM
Pretty sure the COLE says message boards can only look at one game at a time so that we do not look past any opponent.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: mug644 on February 15, 2022, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 15, 2022, 05:46:21 PM
IMO, I will like to see the guys win at Creighton. The first game should have been a win for MU and I think many would have expected there going into the season. To me, that is a game I am focusing on to see how they finish the regular season and get ready for the big dance. We have played the toughest part of our schedule with only the Butler mishap and now time to take care of business.

Great insights, Goose. I was focused more on playing for seeding, and so I went with G'town. Your explanation makes me realize that playing well and positioning for a good run in the upcoming tourneys is crucial, and the @Creighton game looms large for that.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 15, 2022, 06:36:43 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 15, 2022, 05:46:21 PM
IMO, I will like to see the guys win at Creighton. The first game should have been a win for MU and I think many would have expected there going into the season. To me, that is a game I am focusing on to see how they finish the regular season and get ready for the big dance. We have played the toughest part of our schedule with only the Butler mishap and now time to take care of business.

Bingo
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: We R Final Four on February 15, 2022, 07:10:43 PM
The season can be a drastically changed for the worse with a loss tomorrow. All of the others, including Creighton, wont have the impact that tomorrow could.
Must win tomorrow.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: PointWarrior on February 15, 2022, 07:48:49 PM
14 pt favorite at home. GT 3rd game in 5 days, and angry MU squad.   

What could go wrong?

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 15, 2022, 07:10:43 PM
The season can be a drastically changed for the worse with a loss tomorrow. All of the others, including Creighton, wont have the impact that tomorrow could.
Must win tomorrow.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: Herman Cain on February 15, 2022, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: Daniel on February 15, 2022, 10:37:15 AM
The next one!
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 15, 2022, 08:32:21 PM
I'd like to vote for the first NCAA tourney game.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: brewcity77 on February 15, 2022, 09:38:03 PM
Regular season, it's tomorrow. That's the only potential multiple seed line drop. Beyond that, I'm with rocky.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2022, 12:04:11 AM
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 15, 2022, 07:48:49 PM
14 pt favorite at home. GT 3rd game in 5 days, and angry MU squad.   

What could go wrong?

Nothing.

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 15, 2022, 07:10:43 PM
The season can be a drastically changed for the worse with a loss tomorrow. All of the others, including Creighton, wont have the impact that tomorrow could.
Must win tomorrow.

We will.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: wisblue on February 16, 2022, 11:34:45 AM
The Creighton game would have the biggest impact on BET seeding.

MU is in danger of slipping into 6th place in the conference which would mean having to play a game on Wednesday in the BET. Beating Creighton would give MU a much better chance of finishing ahead of CU in the standings and would give MU the tiebreaker.

In terms of BET seeding in case of a tie between MU and CU, this game presents a 3 game swing.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: 1SE on February 16, 2022, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: wisblue on February 16, 2022, 11:34:45 AM
The Creighton game would have the biggest impact on BET seeding.

MU is in danger of slipping into 6th place in the conference which would mean having to play a game on Wednesday in the BET. Beating Creighton would give MU a much better chance of finishing ahead of CU in the standings and would give MU the tiebreaker.

In terms of BET seeding in case of a tie between MU and CU, this game presents a 3 game swing.

What's the BET seeding argument? Just that we don't want to face a potential bad loss in the 1st round?   -
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: MU82 on February 16, 2022, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: 1SE on February 16, 2022, 03:12:49 PM
What's the BET seeding argument? Just that we don't want to face a potential bad loss in the 1st round?   -

First, I want to finish as high up in the standings as possible. Second, I'd rather Marquette not have to play on Wednesday. Beyond that, I think most folks believe it would be best to avoid UConn.
Title: Re: Most important of our remaining games?
Post by: The Sultan on February 16, 2022, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1SE on February 16, 2022, 03:12:49 PM
What's the BET seeding argument? Just that we don't want to face a potential bad loss in the 1st round?   -

The only thing I care about regarding BET seeding is we play in the evening in the second (and perhaps first) rounds.

So I am fine with 2,3,6,7,10 or 11.  (Ideally 2 or 3 obviously)

1,4,5,8 or 9 are problematic.  I don't want to use a vacation day like I did last year, only to watch an unfolding disaster.
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