I know it will be tough for MU to beat UConn on the road Tuesday night. We know UConn and Xavier lost today. Six top 25 teams lost today already. OBviously, MU beating UConn would be a big deal. And then the schedule is fairly soft. Can MU run the table before the BE tournament? Appreciate your thoughts. That will keep you kids busy for awhile.
Quote from: oilcan on February 05, 2022, 07:27:31 PM
I know it will be tough for MU to beat UConn on the road Tuesday night. We know UConn and Xavier lost today. Six top 25 teams lost today already. OBviously, MU beating UConn would be a big deal. And then the schedule is fairly soft. Can MU run the table before the BE tournament? Appreciate your thoughts. That will keep you kids busy for awhile.
Yes
This is probably PTSD from the past 7 years but I am worried about a DePaul or Butler road loss.
Buzz lost to DePaul, too.
Aw common! When Uncle Rico joined me we were 2-0. And now some doubters creep in? Shame on you guys. Let's make it unanimous for once. Leave no doubt where we stand and what we believe. We are what?
Quote from: oilcan on February 05, 2022, 08:49:20 PM
Aw common! When Uncle Rico joined me we were 2-0. And now some doubters creep in? Shame on you guys. Let's make it unanimous for once. Leave no doubt where we stand and what we believe. We are what?
Anything is possible and I'm fine being wrong about Marquette and cheering for them to be successful and win a lot.
The force of the Cult of Low Expectations is strong.
Quote from: oilcan on February 05, 2022, 08:49:20 PM
Aw common! When Uncle Rico joined me we were 2-0. And now some doubters creep in? Shame on you guys. Let's make it unanimous for once. Leave no doubt where we stand and what we believe. We are what?
Quote from: oilcan on February 05, 2022, 07:27:31 PM
I know it will be tough for MU to beat UConn on the road Tuesday night. We know UConn and Xavier lost today. Six top 25 teams lost today already. OBviously, MU beating UConn would be a big deal. And then the schedule is fairly soft. Can MU run the table before the BE tournament? Appreciate your thoughts. That will keep you kids busy for awhile.
Why not?
The BE is filled with decent, but not great teams. There are maybe 10 REALLY good teams that would destroy MU. Watched Duke today and MU would be lucky to stay within single digits.
But they can beat any of the BE teams.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on February 05, 2022, 10:15:44 PM
Why not?
The BE Big Ten is filled with decent, but not great teams. There are maybe 10 REALLY good teams that would destroy MU Wisconsin. Watched Duke today and MU UW would be lucky to stay within single digits.
But they can beat any of the BE Big Ten teams...except maybe Penn State.
Fixed
Watched some of the Badger game today. PSU 9 points with 8 minutes left in first half.
Teams were a combined 12-59 at one point.
Conference is overrated once again.
One natty since the 80's.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 05, 2022, 10:26:53 PM
Watched some of the Badger game today. PSU 9 points with 8 minutes left in first half.
Conference is overrated once again.
One natty since the 80's.
Are you talking about football or basketball?
Hey kid - you misspelled buckyville.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on February 05, 2022, 10:15:44 PM
Why not?
The BE is filled with decent, but not great teams. There are maybe 10 REALLY good teams that would destroy MU. Watched Duke today and MU would be lucky to stay within single digits.
But they can beat any of the BE teams.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on February 05, 2022, 10:15:44 PM
Why not?
The BE is filled with decent, but not great teams. There are maybe 10 REALLY good teams that would destroy MU. Watched Duke today and MU would be lucky to stay within single digits.
But they can beat any of the BE teams.
I love this guy.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 05, 2022, 10:26:53 PM
Watched some of the Badger game today. PSU 9 points with 8 minutes left in first half.
Teams were a combined 12-59 at one point.
Conference is overrated once again.
One natty since the 80's.
They did say Penn State's plane landed two hours before the game. Ugly first half and then they almost pulled off the road upset.
Agree that conference is overrated.
Quote from: oilcan on February 05, 2022, 07:27:31 PM
I know it will be tough for MU to beat UConn on the road Tuesday night. We know UConn and Xavier lost today. Six top 25 teams lost today already. OBviously, MU beating UConn would be a big deal. And then the schedule is fairly soft. Can MU run the table before the BE tournament? Appreciate your thoughts. That will keep you kids busy for awhile.
A friend of mine is a UCONN alum who has always had very good insight into his team as well as basketball in general. He emailed me yesterday with comments after the Nova loss. Some samples: "Hurley...good recruiter but not good on the court: lost the battle inside the paint; all the BE coaches have figured out how to play Sanogo; UCONN may be the great pretender; a mid BE team; maybe a 9 seed". And that's coming from a serious UCONN fan!
He's proven to be pretty accurate in the past. As other Scoopers have said, we really do not have an answer for Sanogo and despite the loss to Nova, he scored 14 points-all in the second half- but got only 2 rebounds in his 27 minutes. I kept switching channels but I see that he had four fouls (not sure when he got them). Draw some fouls on him early and often and I think we are in good shape. If Sanogo has a really good game, things may not end well for Marquette.
UCONN will be very hungry, maybe desperate, for a win and at home. This maybe our most impressive win if we do win. A loss is not a big deal for MU so I won't be disappointed or surprised if we take an L in this game.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 06, 2022, 07:48:43 AM
A friend of mine is a UCONN alum who has always had very good insight into his team as well as basketball in general. He emailed me yesterday with comments after the Nova loss. Some samples: "Hurley...good recruiter but not good on the court: lost the battle inside the paint; all the BE coaches have figured out how to play Sanogo; UCONN may be the great pretender; a mid BE team; maybe a 9 seed". And that's coming from a serious UCONN fan!
He's proven to be pretty accurate in the past. As other Scoopers have said, we really do not have an answer for Sanogo and despite the loss to Nova, he scored 14 points-all in the second half- but got only 2 rebounds in his 27 minutes. I kept switching channels but I see that he had four fouls (not sure when he got them). Draw some fouls on him early and often and I think we are in good shape. If Sanogo has a really good game, things may not end well for Marquette.
He had 2 fouls in the first 4 minutes of the game. HIm and WHaley
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 06, 2022, 09:44:21 AM
He had 2 fouls in the first 4 minutes of the game. HIm and WHaley
Thanks for the info. I suspected something along those lines with zero points in the first half.
I don't make predictions but winning out is obviously very difficult and we don't get UCONN under the best of circumstances. They will be desperate for a win. We also saw last night that anything can happen with DePaul punking X and ASU beating UCLA. We are certainly capable of beating every team we face from here on out, in fact I think we are the best team in our league, but it's important to take things one game at a time and focus on each task at hand.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on February 05, 2022, 10:15:44 PM
Why not?
The BE is filled with decent, but not great teams. There are maybe 10 REALLY good teams that would destroy MU. Watched Duke today and MU would be lucky to stay within single digits.
But they can beat any of the BE teams.
Do you watch college basketball? That is a pretty silly comment if you do.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 06, 2022, 10:15:26 AM
I don't make predictions but winning out is obviously very difficult and we don't get UCONN under the best of circumstances. They will be desperate for a win. We also saw last night that anything can happen with DePaul punking X and ASU beating UCLA. We are certainly capable of beating every team we face from here on out, in fact I think we are the best team in our league, but it's important to take things one game at a time and focus on each task at hand.
How are we not getting UConn in good circumstances? We're playing well and their offense looks like it has no identity. I don't buy the "hungry for a win" concept as some sort of mana from heaven that will imbue them with an NBA Jam cheat code
We are David.
We go out every night with a slingshot and a desire to slay Goliath.
Usually Goliath falls. Sometimes we run for our lives.
Nonetheless, what makes this team special is they believe they are going to win every night out.
Goliath goes down again this week!
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on February 05, 2022, 10:15:44 PM
Why not?
The BE is filled with decent, but not great teams. There are maybe 10 REALLY good teams that would destroy MU. Watched Duke today and MU would be lucky to stay within single digits.
But they can beat any of the BE teams.
What does that say about the Big 10 and Big XII?
You do realize the ACC is the 6th rated conference? Duke is like Gonzaga in the WCC.
Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 06, 2022, 08:56:43 AM
UCONN will be very hungry, maybe desperate, for a win and at home. This maybe our most impressive win if we do win. A loss is not a big deal for MU so I won't be disappointed or surprised if we take an L in this game.
We won at Finneran, where opposing teams hardly ever win, and Nova was ranked No. 11. So beating a less-accomplished UConn team in an easier place to win would not be our most impressive victory.
Our guys should want payback for a home loss earlier in the season, and should be motivated by -- even desperate for -- the chance to move up in the standings/seeding.
But it is fun to get to debate the quality-degree of our victories.
Quote from: MuggsyB on February 06, 2022, 10:15:26 AM
I don't make predictions but winning out is obviously very difficult and we don't get UCONN under the best of circumstances. They will be desperate for a win. We also saw last night that anything can happen with DePaul punking X and ASU beating UCLA. We are certainly capable of beating every team we face from here on out, in fact I think we are the best team in our league, but it's important to take things one game at a time and focus on each task at hand.
But the reason they are desperate for a win is because they've been losing because they're not playing very well lately! That's a great time to run into them!
Quote from: THRILLHO on February 06, 2022, 07:20:35 PM
But the reason they are desperate for a win is because they've been losing because they're not playing very well lately! That's a great time to run into them!
+1. Picking tops or bottoms for teams is difficult. I'd much rather play a slumping one than one who's hot.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 06, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
+1. Picking tops or bottoms for teams is difficult. I'd much rather play a slumping one than one who's hot.
Fair enough. Would you put O-Max on Cole or Martin?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 06, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
+1. Picking tops or bottoms for teams is difficult. I'd much rather play a slumping one than one who's hot.
This.
The "desperate team" angle is overrated.
Quote from: MU82 on February 06, 2022, 10:58:08 PM
This.
The "desperate team" angle is overrated.
Agreed. Playing a desperate team was something that I worried about in the Wojo years and even into this season. However, so far this year we've beaten SHU coming off of a disappointing loss twice (DePaul, SJU), beat Xavier after a huge scare against DePaul, and beat Nova in a revenge game.
UCONN will be favored by 4 to 6 tomorrow and definitely can beat us, but it won't be because they are coming off a loss.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 07, 2022, 12:57:46 PM
Agreed. Playing a desperate team was something that I worried about in the Wojo years and even into this season. However, so far this year we've beaten SHU coming off of a disappointing loss twice (DePaul, SJU), beat Xavier after a huge scare against DePaul, and beat Nova in a revenge game.
UCONN will be favored by 4 to 6 tomorrow and definitely can beat us, but it won't be because they are coming off a loss.
It doesn't matter who the coach is. It's simply an overrated concept.
Heck, sometimes the "desperate" team plays too tight and it only makes things worse for them. Over the years, all of us have seen a bazillion teams that "were desperate and had to win" but they lose anyway, often to teams they're supposedly better than.
Yep, what happens more is teams simply recalibrate after a couple losses, refocus, "get back to the basics", etc. and start playing better team basketball. Hopefully UConn hasn't done any of that and the wheels come off.
The alternative is we are just simply a better team and our best will beat their best regardless. Would be great to just beat them while they are playing their best and really throw them into a tail spin.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on February 08, 2022, 06:30:06 AM
Yep, what happens more is teams simply recalibrate after a couple losses, refocus, "get back to the basics", etc. and start playing better team basketball.
I don't think we have any reason to believe it's true that it happens "more" that they start playing better, or even that refocusing is a real thing.
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned a friend of mine who is a UCONN alum and serious fan being down on Hurley. Husky_U on holyland seems to be sour on Hurley also and not sympathetic with Hurley's complaint about fans not filling the arena.
Re: (3) Tuesday Big East Games 2/8/22
Postby Husky_U ยป Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:44 pm
Again, that line is very generous. As far as the Hurley comment is concerned... That's more of a shot at the XL Center than anything else. He's been whining about playing in Hartford since he took the job. And don't coach like you did vs Creighton if you want more fans.
Quote from: THRILLHO on February 08, 2022, 07:22:52 AM
I don't think we have any reason to believe it's true that it happens "more" that they start playing better, or even that refocusing is a real thing.
Sure, start playing better. Whatever it is that helps them do that mentally or physically. Doesn't really matter how you say it.