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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: rgoode57 on January 24, 2022, 02:40:53 PM
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I think it is pretty certain that this season is going to be one that nearly every fan will be satisfied with (except those few who now think we should be an elite 8 team). Shaka has given us all a reason to be proud of MU b'ball again and to look forward to future seasons. So, I can't help thinking about next season.
Shaka is going to have some holes to fill - Morsell and Kur will certainly be gone, Greg will most likely be gone, and it is looking more and more likely that Justin will be gone if he keeps up his strong play. That's 3 starters and a very key bench player to replace. Kam Jones can take Greg's role, but replacing the three starters is much harder. Oso is becoming a good player but, in terms of rim protection, he is not Kur. Stevie Mitchell may be able to replace a part of what Morsell brings defensively, but not his offense or his leadership. And, you just don't go out and grab another Justin Lewis off the street.
Shaka certainly knows what he needs to do but I can't help but wonder if the coaches have a way of tracking players they want to try to grab if the player decides to transfer. Shaka will have two spots open for transfers and one of those has to be a big. I would think the other is a scoring wing. Do you think there is a list somewhere that gets constantly updated?
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April thru October is all about next year.
Perhaps bring up these questions then?
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I think it is pretty certain that this season is going to be one that nearly every fan will be satisfied with (except those few who now think we should be an elite 8 team). Shaka has given us all a reason to be proud of MU b'ball again and to look forward to future seasons. So, I can't help thinking about next season.
Shaka is going to have some holes to fill - Morsell and Kur will certainly be gone, Greg will most likely be gone, and it is looking more and more likely that Justin will be gone if he keeps up his strong play. That's 3 starters and a very key bench player to replace. Kam Jones can take Greg's role, but replacing the three starters is much harder. Oso is becoming a good player but, in terms of rim protection, he is not Kur. Stevie Mitchell may be able to replace a part of what Morsell brings defensively, but not his offense or his leadership. And, you just don't go out and grab another Justin Lewis off the street.
Shaka certainly knows what he needs to do but I can't help but wonder if the coaches have a way of tracking players they want to try to grab if the player decides to transfer. Shaka will have two spots open for transfers and one of those has to be a big. I would think the other is a scoring wing. Do you think there is a list somewhere that gets constantly updated?
Bring it up whenever you want!
I think filling holes is a much different landscape now a days with the transfer portal. Not saying we will fill those holes with similar talents, but there is a better chance you can fill that hole with someone already in the collegiate ranks, and not some kid out of high school that you hope will play just as well.
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Just my opinion, but I don’t think MU will be taking a step back talent wise next year. A lot of guys will be looking for a new home and MU and Shaka have a lot to sell. I think Shaka is well aware of the players he finished 2nd or 3rd on who may be looking to transfer.
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If all 8 non-super seniors return, along with the incoming recruits, ranked in the preseason. Yep, need another big, though a couple of athletic stretch 4's would suffice.
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No disrespect, but this is a perfect question for the "Recruiting as of _____" thread. They keep an updated tracker of prospective talent we are actively recruiting.
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I guaranty you that potential transfers are going to look at what Shaka is doing with Morsell and want to be a part of this. Players who have been pigeon-holed into roles who are given the opportunity to expand their game to at least get a shot at that next level? Why wouldn't you look at Marquette?
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Immediate transfers will help, but more so than any other coach I remember, he rides these freshman at key points. Kam, Stevie, Oso, Kolek, Prosper, Jop will all be seasoned vets with another summer to improve under their belts. If he can keep that core together and compliment with a
few vets I think we will be good to go. Who knows though, chances of everyone staying are probably 50/50 at best.
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If all 8 non-super seniors return, along with the incoming recruits, ranked in the preseason. Yep, need another big, though a couple of athletic stretch 4's would suffice.
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For next year, either Ross or Ellis will have to be a factor, figuring Kam is the 2 guard, but those 2 have to replace Morsell. Up front, Joplin and OMAX will have to improve. At center, OSO. The big question as anybody seen Itejere play in practice? If he gives them something they would have to find a 4 that can score!
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I agree with Goose. This year will be one of the worst if not the worst team of the Shaka era. Only going up from here.
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I agree with Goose. This year will be one of the worst if not the worst team of the Shaka era. Only going up from here.
What if the Virginia Tech job opens?
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I can't help thinking about Wednesday night. There is a lot of heavy lifting yet to be done this season.
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I can't help thinking about Wednesday night. There is a lot of heavy lifting yet to be done this season.
Totally agree! The sign of a great team is the ability to win on the road.
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If they can win at the Pavilion, they can win at the Rock.
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I can't help thinking about Wednesday night. There is a lot of heavy lifting yet to be done this season.
To heck with that. Shaka better get crackin' on the 2024-25 team!
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Immediate transfers will help, but more so than any other coach I remember, he rides these freshman at key points. Kam, Stevie, Oso, Kolek, Prosper, Jop will all be seasoned vets with another summer to improve under their belts. If he can keep that core together and compliment with a
few vets I think we will be good to go. Who knows though, chances of everyone staying are probably 50/50 at best.
Don't forget Emarion and Keeyan!
History says not all of those guys will be back though.
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Don't forget Emarion and Keeyan!
History says not all of those guys will be back though.
I think EE is going to be really good for us. Not sure if next year is the year, but he has a ton of tools for the pg position. Hopefully we get to see them.
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There are 3 points next year, hope Ellis can play the 2 or 3!
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I can't help thinking about Wednesday night. There is a lot of heavy lifting yet to be done this season.
Correctamundo Goose. I can't stand Willard or the Hall. I could see then trying to muck it up Wednesday. We should be prepared for everything.
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I can't help thinking about Wednesday night. There is a lot of heavy lifting yet to be done this season.
I agree with the heavy lifting analysis. Now we need to watch how we tone the muscles.
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There are 3 points next year, hope Ellis can play the 2 or 3!
You worry about positions way too much.
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There are 3 points next year, hope Ellis can play the 2 or 3!
It is impossible to have too many players who can play point, provided they have some size. EE, Stevie, TKo all have size. Sean Jones, not so much.
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Correctamundo Goose. I can't stand Willard or the Hall. I could see then trying to muck it up Wednesday. We should be prepared for everything.
Can we bring our own refs?
Muggsy, it's going to be nasty. Agree on Williard and Seton Hall. I know that winning the Nova game in Milwaukee has the most value among the upcoming games but nothing, absolutely nothing would make me happier than if we take them down on their home court-not even beating Nova again.
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I think EE is going to be really good for us. Not sure if next year is the year, but he has a ton of tools for the pg position. Hopefully we get to see them.
I hope he is. Also hope he isn't discouraged from the lack of PT.
I'm not saying he deserves any PT - looks not great when out there - but time and time again we see guys transfer due to lack of PT and desire to go to a "better" situation.
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What if the Virginia Tech job opens?
To be honest I would think Mrs. Smart vetoes V Poly
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Sam Vecenie (who I consider one of the more tuned in guys) has Justin Lewis at #61 on his latest draft big board.
Justin certainly has some NBA skills, but still needs some improvement. 3-point shot needs to be more consistent and he needs to rebound every game like he did against X (my opinion - not Vecenie's).
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Over breakfast this morning I said “The only bad thing about this run is Lewis is leaving to get paid after this year”. Even my dog rolled her eyes and said “just enjoy this dude!”
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Over breakfast this morning I said “The only bad thing about this run is Lewis is leaving to get paid after this year”. Even my dog rolled her eyes and said “just enjoy this dude!”
I think you had the wrong type of mushrooms in your breakfast omelet
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I think it is pretty certain that this season is going to be one that nearly every fan will be satisfied with (except those few who now think we should be an elite 8 team). Shaka has given us all a reason to be proud of MU b'ball again and to look forward to future seasons. So, I can't help thinking about next season.
Shaka is going to have some holes to fill - Morsell and Kur will certainly be gone, Greg will most likely be gone, and it is looking more and more likely that Justin will be gone if he keeps up his strong play. That's 3 starters and a very key bench player to replace. Kam Jones can take Greg's role, but replacing the three starters is much harder. Oso is becoming a good player but, in terms of rim protection, he is not Kur. Stevie Mitchell may be able to replace a part of what Morsell brings defensively, but not his offense or his leadership. And, you just don't go out and grab another Justin Lewis off the street.
Shaka certainly knows what he needs to do but I can't help but wonder if the coaches have a way of tracking players they want to try to grab if the player decides to transfer. Shaka will have two spots open for transfers and one of those has to be a big. I would think the other is a scoring wing. Do you think there is a list somewhere that gets constantly updated?
PG: Kolek, S. Jones
G: Mitchell, Ellis, K. Jones, Ross
F: Joplin, OMax, Itejere, Oso
That leaves 3 spots. 2 if Greg or Justin are back. 1 if both Greg and Justin are back.
A few things:
I think our PG spot next year is as good as you'll find in the country in terms of true PG play offensively. Kolek is elite at setting up teammates and Sean Jones will be more of the same. Defense will be the ? for these 2, but isn't a concern to this point.
The Guards are good. Kam can light it up. Stevie is a menace defensively and driving and cutting. Ross is ELITE athletically. Ellis does a little bit of it all. We all have our own opinions, but I think Darryl is why this team is successful. He is so good defensively as the leader and his offense is big especially when it matters most. I think Shaka will look to find another veteran guard with skills similar to what Darryl brings.
The Forwards will be fine. OMax and Joplin are both guys that can defend multiple positions and stretch the floor. Oso is just solid. Shaka will definitely look to add a 4/5 type whether Lewis is back or not to replace the depth Kur provides now.
We are in a good spot but we should enjoy now! Shaka will make it all work out regardless of what happens after March. He's already got a Top 25 team and he's probably not even on a first name basis with some people around the University yet! Let it play out!
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I agree with Goose. This year will be one of the worst if not the worst team of the Shaka era. Only going up from here.
this is just wild optimism. so if this year is as bad as gets under shaka weve basically reached nova status already.
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this is just wild optimism. so if this year is as bad as gets under shaka weve basically reached nova status already.
Not already, still have to do it
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Not already, still have to do it
I don't think so, pretty sure we can crown ourselves defacto future champions twice over.
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this is just wild optimism.
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PG: Kolek, S. Jones
G: Mitchell, Ellis, K. Jones, Ross
F: Joplin, OMax, Itejere, Oso
That leaves 3 spots. 2 if Greg or Justin are back. 1 if both Greg and Justin are back.
A few things:
I think our PG spot next year is as good as you'll find in the country in terms of true PG play offensively. Kolek is elite at setting up teammates and Sean Jones will be more of the same. Defense will be the ? for these 2, but isn't a concern to this point.
The Guards are good. Kam can light it up. Stevie is a menace defensively and driving and cutting. Ross is ELITE athletically. Ellis does a little bit of it all. We all have our own opinions, but I think Darryl is why this team is successful. He is so good defensively as the leader and his offense is big especially when it matters most. I think Shaka will look to find another veteran guard with skills similar to what Darryl brings.
The Forwards will be fine. OMax and Joplin are both guys that can defend multiple positions and stretch the floor. Oso is just solid. Shaka will definitely look to add a 4/5 type whether Lewis is back or not to replace the depth Kur provides now.
We are in a good spot but we should enjoy now! Shaka will make it all work out regardless of what happens after March. He's already got a Top 25 team and he's probably not even on a first name basis with some people around the University yet! Let it play out!
Greg is a Covid free year, so they can have 14 on the team if they want, so he has 2 open and 3 if Lewis leaves. It would nice to have a good player stay for
2 years instead of leaving. Carton, not sure how much fun he is having. Garcia going somewhere else for sure did not help him. Sometimes it is best to stay
where you are. One more year for Lewis would probably really up his draft status, unless he plays like last game consistently, different story. First game I was wrong,
he looked like a player that wanted to rebound, lets see what happens tonight!
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Greg is a Covid free year, so they can have 14 on the team if they want, so he has 2 open and 3 if Lewis leaves.
I thought this was true but was incorrect. That only applies to this year's seniors. Greg counts next season.
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I don't think Greg's got too many more years on the team.
3 ... 4 tops!
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Greg IS the new Van Wilder
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He's on the Decade Plan.
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Greg IS the new Van Wilder
he's the new Tommy in Tommy Boy as he's at Marquette not Coolidge College.
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I don't think Greg's got too many more years on the team.
3 ... 4 tops!
Couple more years and he'll catch our Irish record holder.
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It took me 9.5 years to graduate, and I will give Greg a pass on being here a couple more years.
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It took me 9.5 years to graduate, and I will give Greg a pass on being here a couple more years.
Really wanted to keep those student tickets huh?
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Integrate the 2 freshman Guard recruits and Ellis and Itejere. Play Kam Jones more. Add one or two transfers (likely in the front court).
We'll be alright.
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Galway
A bit of underachiever in the classroom, but enjoyed the rest of the experience quite a bit.
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Galway
A bit of underachiever in the classroom, but enjoyed the rest of the experience quite a bit.
Took me 5 with non stop summer school I can relate. Hell you got the piece of paper and that's what counts!
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Greg IS the new Van Wilder
Fun Fact: Greg played at the Bradley Center
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Fun Fact: Greg played at the Bradley Center
Did he also play at the MECCA Arena?
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Couple more years and he'll catch our Irish record holder.
Heard a rumor that the Irish one has eligibility left and will use it if his record is broken.