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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Cream Biggums on January 23, 2022, 03:26:10 PM
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We're HOT!!!
This is so much fun. Just so wonderful to have our program back. But honestly, when was the last time we were on this much of a hot streak? Feels like maybe a decade
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Definitely not since at least April 1, 2014
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It is great to say we are hot. But it would be even better to say "this is Marquette's standard level of play".
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It is great to say we are hot. But it would be even better to say "this Marquettes standard level of play".
It should be and, hopefully, it will be. But we have been abused and gaslit as a fan base for so long. Gaslit into believing the team is too young, too tired, too this, too that, etc, etc, etc - that it’s gonna take a little time to accept that we can be a consistently top-tier Big East program.
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Definitely not since at least April 1, 2014
We won 8 straight with Markus and the brotherly duo
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In the middle of a 22-3 run.
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In the middle of a 22-3 run.
That team was sooooo fraudulent. So so fraudulent.
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#FraudTeam
In the middle of a 22-3 run.
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Yes
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Nice year one for the Shaka era, guessing we will get used to being hot.
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#FraudTeam
In the end. But the record was the record in the middle of the season. It was a great stretch that I enjoyed very much. This year's team is hot. I love it. I love defense and toughness. But the question was about when was the last time MU was on this kind of hot streak. And the answer is the 18-19 season. Regardless of how it ended.
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We won 8 straight with Markus and the brotherly duo
Go look at how weak those Big East teams were..none ranked over 55.
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Yes
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I haven’t had this much fun since Buzz was dancing on the sideline vs. Louisville in 2010.
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In the end. But the record was the record in the middle of the season. It was a great stretch that I enjoyed very much. This year's team is hot. I love it. I love defense and toughness. But the question was about when was the last time MU was on this kind of hot streak. And the answer is the 18-19 season. Regardless of how it ended.
This streak is better. Go compare the KenPom numbers.
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Yes
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This team could easily have won one (or all) of the three games it lost, too.
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Maybe it's me but I feel we're "hot" with tons of room for improvement. I always hope we can get to the Blue Whale vs Krill level.
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Muggsy
This program is still in the batter's box. We are going to see a lot of great basketball in the upcoming years.
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Totally agree with you, Goose. The best is yet to come. So much fun!
Still, it's sad that some can't enjoy this coach and this year's team for their accomplishments, and instead have to frame everything in terms of previous coaches and teams.
When Shaka leads us to a third straight national title, some mopes will be screaming, "Eff you, Wojo!" instead of "We Are Marquette!" What an odd, sad obsession.
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We won 8 straight with Markus and the brotherly duo
And then flamed out down the stretch, thanks to Wojo-Dukiets incompetence.
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Muggsy
This program is still in the batter's box. We are going to see a lot of great basketball in the upcoming years.
I'm with you Goose. But because of my rapacity I'm thinking about our overall ceiling right now. What's most encouraging is it's evident that we are capable of winning a number of ways.
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In the end. But the record was the record in the middle of the season. It was a great stretch that I enjoyed very much. This year's team is hot. I love it. I love defense and toughness. But the question was about when was the last time MU was on this kind of hot streak. And the answer is the 18-19 season. Regardless of how it ended.
That team didn't play nearly the talent level this one did. As soon as that team did, they fell back to wojos earth. Mediocrity.
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Again, the question was when is the last time MU was this hot. The factual answer is 18-19.
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That team didn't have the chemistry this one does. God, let no one write a letter this year.
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Yes
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82
I have put the previous coach in the rearview mirror and am enjoying the rebirth of the MU basketball program. This will be the greatest run of MU ball in nearly a half century. Previous good coaches learned on the job, we hired a homerun coach and only looking forward.
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Goose - but Shaka “failed his first test”
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I have put the previous coach in the rearview mirror and am enjoying the rebirth of the MU basketball program. This will be the greatest run of MU ball in nearly a half century. Previous good coaches learned on the job, we hired a homerun coach and only looking forward.
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That team didn't have the chemistry this one does. God, let no one write a letter this year.
LOL.
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Point
He likely did a decade ago.
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Too bad we are not playing UCLA and Buxky now
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And then flamed out down the stretch, thanks to Wojo-Dukiets incompetence.
Exactly what you posted about, 82. Pathological inability to enjoy this team.
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Totally agree with you, Goose. The best is yet to come. So much fun!
Still, it's sad that some can't enjoy this coach and this year's team for their accomplishments, and instead have to frame everything in terms of previous coaches and teams.
When Shaka leads us to a third straight national title, some mopes will be screaming, "Eff you, Wojo!" instead of "We Are Marquette!" What an odd, sad obsession.
Completely agree, 82.
Let’s enjoy this ride, while it gets better and better!
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Again, the question was when is the last time MU was this hot. The factual answer is 18-19.
No it’s not because we are hotter now. Thanks for running it through your fact checker, though.
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Totally agree with you, Goose. The best is yet to come. So much fun!
Still, it's sad that some can't enjoy this coach and this year's team for their accomplishments, and instead have to frame everything in terms of previous coaches and teams.
When Shaka leads us to a third straight national title, some mopes will be screaming, "Eff you, Wojo!" instead of "We Are Marquette!" What an odd, sad obsession.
On the contrary my friend, I couldn’t possibly be enjoying this season any more:
1. The team is absolutely rolling - one of the teams you don’t want to see on your schedule. The style of play is ideal, the sideline energy, and general FF vibes are incredible. It’s been awesome.
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2. Every day we move on makes Wojo and anyone that defended or made excuses for him post-Year-5 look like the certified basketball illiterate rubes that they are. And it makes vocal Nojos like me look smart! 8-)
Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Enjoy the rest of the year 82.
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I wanted to mention something I saw today that I hadn’t seen yet this year.
OSA getting the ball near mid-court and making a move off the dribble to initiate the offense. He drove into the lane and fired a pass to Morsell wide open in the corner. Unfortunately DM moved just as the pass was being thrown and it ended up as a TO.
I wonder if we’re going to start seeing that look more when the big comes out on him.
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I wanted to mention something I saw today that I hadn’t seen yet this year.
OSA getting the ball near mid-court and making a move off the dribble to initiate the offense. He drove into the lane and fired a pass to Morsell wide open in the corner. Unfortunately DM moved just as the pass was being thrown and it ended up as a TO.
I wonder if we’re going to start seeing that look more when the big comes out on him.
I think they were just trying something new.
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On the contrary my friend, I couldn’t possibly be enjoying this season any more:
1. The team is absolutely rolling - one of the teams you don’t want to see on your schedule. The style of play is ideal, the sideline energy, and general FF vibes are incredible. It’s been awesome.
AND
2. Every day we move on makes Wojo and anyone that defended or made excuses for him post-Year-5 look like the certified basketball illiterate rubes that they are. And it makes vocal Nojos like me look smart! 8-)
Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Enjoy the rest of the year 82.
You don't look smart. You look obsessed. But at least you've stopped rooting for your own alma mater to lose, so I guess you've shown a little progress.
If you're really enjoying this team, start proving it with your posts.
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You don't look smart. You look obsessed. But at least you've stopped rooting for your own alma mater to lose, so I guess you've shown a little progress.
If you're really enjoying this team, start proving it with your posts.
It’s not for you, 82! It never was. :)
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We're "hot"...but a very basic look at shooting percentage shows that it likely isn't the result of shooting that will eventually regress to the mean. Instead, their defense is getting better. Defense and effort should travel...just need to continue to find the hot hands on offense. We've seen a number of players step up, and the shooting/scoring from Greg, Morsell, and Lewis seems to be gaining consistency/reliability. Damn this is fun.
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On the contrary my friend, I couldn’t possibly be enjoying this season any more:
1. The team is absolutely rolling - one of the teams you don’t want to see on your schedule. The style of play is ideal, the sideline energy, and general FF vibes are incredible. It’s been awesome.
AND
2. Every day we move on makes Wojo and anyone that defended or made excuses for him post-Year-5 look like the certified basketball illiterate rubes that they are. And it makes vocal Nojos like me look smart! 8-)
Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Enjoy the rest of the year 82.
82 was a huge projo until the very end. He wants to get away from that as fast as possible. Let us have a year or two of fun for enduring the past 7 years.
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2. Every day we move on makes Wojo and anyone that defended or made excuses for him post-Year-5 look like the certified basketball illiterate rubes that they are. And it makes vocal Nojos like me look smart! 8-)
Connect those dots for me. How does Shaka winning prove anything about your opinions on Wojo? If Shaka had struggled, would that have meant you were wrong? Personally I'd say no. FWIW, you were right that Wojo wasn't going to improve, at least not during this stop. And you're preseason predictions for this season have been a lot better than the majority of us.
In a way, the more Shaka wins, the more it shows you were wrong. I don't remember exactly when you started demanding that Wojo be fired but it was long before he was. If MU listened to you, Shaka wouldn't be our coach. It's possible we would've gotten someone as good or better, or we could have ended up with a Wojo 2.0 or worse and sunk to Washington, Cal, or Georgetown levels. Odds say the latter was more likely, there are simply more Wojos out there than Shakas.
Instead there were those who said he hadn't done enough to be fired (which is not exactly high praise). MU agreed and waited until it was the right time to move on, when they knew they had the man they wanted waiting in the wings and that the absolute worst they were going to do was porter Moser who would have been a big upgrade (but I'm glad Shaka was the pick). That's how big boys make a coaching change. Firing a coach isn't about punishing a coach for the past, is about doing what's best for the programs future. And from where we stand now, MU came through in a big way.
Now let's just enjoy the ride and laugh at NolongerWarriors. We should be able to agree on both.
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I wanted to mention something I saw today that I hadn’t seen yet this year.
OSA getting the ball near mid-court and making a move off the dribble to initiate the offense. He drove into the lane and fired a pass to Morsell wide open in the corner. Unfortunately DM moved just as the pass was being thrown and it ended up as a TO.
I wonder if we’re going to start seeing that look more when the big comes out on him.
MU ran that play twice today. Once with OMAX and once with Oso. OMAX fumbled and Oso kicked... Looks like it's new and designed to draw a foul on the opposing defender, pass to baseline cutter, or kick to weak side for a 3. Both guys still tend to get going too fast and lose control a bit.
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82 was a huge projo until the very end. He wants to get away from that as fast as possible. Let us have a year or two of fun for enduring the past 7 years.
The first sentence is false.
The second sentence is true because it's just stoopid to obsess about the previous regime when we have such a fun team to watch. The third is just silly.
Connect those dots for me. How does Shaka winning prove anything about your opinions on Wojo? If Shaka had struggled, would that have meant you were wrong? Personally I'd say no. FWIW, you were right that Wojo wasn't going to improve, at least not during this stop. And you're preseason predictions for this season have been a lot better than the majority of us.
In a way, the more Shaka wins, the more it shows you were wrong. I don't remember exactly when you started demanding that Wojo be fired but it was long before he was. If MU listened to you, Shaka wouldn't be our coach. It's possible we would've gotten someone as good or better, or we could have ended up with a Wojo 2.0 or worse and sunk to Washington, Cal, or Georgetown levels. Odds say the latter was more likely, there are simply more Wojos out there than Shakas.
Instead there were those who said he hadn't done enough to be fired (which is not exactly high praise). MU agreed and waited until it was the right time to move on, when they knew they had the man they wanted waiting in the wings and that the absolute worst they were going to do was porter Moser who would have been a big upgrade (but I'm glad Shaka was the pick). That's how big boys make a coaching change. Firing a coach isn't about punishing a coach for the past, is about doing what's best for the programs future. And from where we stand now, MU came through in a big way.
Now let's just enjoy the ride and laugh at NolongerWarriors. We should be able to agree on both.
Yep. The Obsessed Nojos should thank their lucky stars that the previous MU coach wasn't fired the previous year and that the current MU coach couldn't beat Abilene Christian ... and then they should move on and appreciate this coach and team for what they are.
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On the contrary my friend, I couldn’t possibly be enjoying this season any more:
1. The team is absolutely rolling - one of the teams you don’t want to see on your schedule. The style of play is ideal, the sideline energy, and general FF vibes are incredible. It’s been awesome.
AND
2. Every day we move on makes Wojo and anyone that defended or made excuses for him post-Year-5 look like the certified basketball illiterate rubes that they are. And it makes vocal Nojos like me look smart! 8-)
Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Enjoy the rest of the year 82.
Most here consider you a fool. You work way to hard proving them right.
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Most fun I’ve had watching MU in awhile. Love this team.
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Connect those dots for me. How does Shaka winning prove anything about your opinions on Wojo? If Shaka had struggled, would that have meant you were wrong? Personally I'd say no. FWIW, you were right that Wojo wasn't going to improve, at least not during this stop. And you're preseason predictions for this season have been a lot better than the majority of us.
In a way, the more Shaka wins, the more it shows you were wrong. I don't remember exactly when you started demanding that Wojo be fired but it was long before he was. If MU listened to you, Shaka wouldn't be our coach. It's possible we would've gotten someone as good or better, or we could have ended up with a Wojo 2.0 or worse and sunk to Washington, Cal, or Georgetown levels. Odds say the latter was more likely, there are simply more Wojos out there than Shakas.
Instead there were those who said he hadn't done enough to be fired (which is not exactly high praise). MU agreed and waited until it was the right time to move on, when they knew they had the man they wanted waiting in the wings and that the absolute worst they were going to do was porter Moser who would have been a big upgrade (but I'm glad Shaka was the pick). That's how big boys make a coaching change. Firing a coach isn't about punishing a coach for the past, is about doing what's best for the programs future. And from where we stand now, MU came through in a big way.
Now let's just enjoy the ride and laugh at NolongerWarriors. We should be able to agree on both.
My most convicted opinion was:
Wojo = not the guy
Next guy = maybe the guy
Maybe the guy > not the guy
Those are the only dots to connect. Anything else is just noise. I wasn’t all that convicted in the coaching search itself if I recall correctly.
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Most here consider you a fool. You work way to hard proving them right.
What polling agency are you with, underwear brand?
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My most convicted opinion was:
Wojo = not the guy
Next guy = maybe the guy
Maybe the guy > not the guy
Those are the only dots to connect. Anything else is just noise. I wasn’t all that convicted in the coaching search itself if I recall correctly.
I know you believe that to be true, but I don't think anyone had an issue with your message.
You were right that he wasn't the guy. MU fired him at the perfect time.
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The first sentence is false.
The second sentence is true because it's just stoopid to obsess about the previous regime when we have such a fun team to watch. The third is just silly.
Yep. The Obsessed Nojos should thank their lucky stars that the previous MU coach wasn't fired the previous year and that the current MU coach couldn't beat Abilene Christian ... and then they should move on and appreciate this coach and team for what they are.
Agree with this. had MU not hired an established head coach with a pedigree for success we would not be in the position this year. The best decision was letting Wojo go knowing Shaka was coming.
I also don’t know of anyone who wouldn’t have taken Shaka over Wojo at any point.
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If people want to see what obsession actually looks like, there's a 25 page Hauser brothers thread in the superbar.
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If people want to see what obsession actually looks like, there's a 25 page Hauser brothers thread in the superbar.
+1,000,000
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If people want to see what obsession actually looks like, there's a 25 page Hauser brothers thread in the superbar.
That’s a good idea, actually. There should be an official former coaches thread in the superbar so topics here don’t get hijacked
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That’s a good idea, actually. There should be an official former coaches thread in the superbar so topics here don’t get hijacked
I’m in for it. And maybe a “days since Wojo has been employed as head coach of a D1 program” tracker?
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Of course, the huge downside of all this winning is that MU is bolstering the BAGders NET. :'(
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Of course, the huge downside of all this winning is that MU is bolstering the BAGders NET. :'(
And they are doing us a favor by making themselves look like an excellent loss (rather than an OK one). I hate Bucky, too but not enough to care that us winning helps their resume.
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I don't know if this is what you are going for, but this is what I imagine every time you post this:
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If people want to see what obsession actually looks like, there's a 25 page Hauser brothers thread in the superbar.
As one who contributes to that thread, OK that's fair, I won't deny I like to have fun at Vanilla Soft Serve's expense.
Then again, I do all my obsessing over the Hausers in the Hauser Obsession Thread in the Superbar. I don't take every thread on the Al, whether it's one of the postgame threads or it's about Shaka or Morsell or rebounding or recruiting or rankings or whatever and turn it into "let's take a shot at Joey."
I will be happy to start a "Beat The Hell Out Of Former Coaches" thread on the Superbar so the dozen or so Scoopers who like to turn every thread into an anti-Wojo screed have a place to gather.
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That’s a good idea, actually. There should be an official former coaches thread in the superbar so topics here don’t get hijacked
Can we also add the former presidents' thread so every thread doesn't get double hijacked?
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As one who contributes to that thread, OK that's fair, I won't deny I like to have fun at Vanilla Soft Serve's expense.
Then again, I do all my obsessing over the Hausers in the Hauser Obsession Thread in the Superbar. I don't take every thread on the Al, whether it's one of the postgame threads or it's about Shaka or Morsell or rebounding or recruiting or rankings or whatever and turn it into "let's take a shot at Joey."
I will be happy to start a "Beat The Hell Out Of Former Coaches" thread on the Superbar so the dozen or so Scoopers who like to turn every thread into an anti-Wojo screed have a place to gather.
“My obsession is totally normal and rational”
“Your obsession is weird and shameful!”
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Can we also add the former presidents' thread so every thread doesn't get double hijacked?
Feels like that one has been avoided here for the new year pretty well *ducks*
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Feels like that one has been avoided here for the new year pretty well *ducks*
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“My obsession is totally normal and rational”
“Your obsession is weird and shameful!”
My obsession is limited to the thread dedicated to the obsession. Your obsession tries to take over every thread.
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My obsession is limited to the thread dedicated to the obsession. Your obsession tries to take over every thread.
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My obsession is limited to the thread dedicated to the obsession. Your obsession tries to take over every thread.
“I totally have a hold on my obsession. I’m responsible with it and keep it nice and contained and can stop any time I want. I just don’t want to! Leave me alone!”
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“I totally have a hold on my obsession. I’m responsible with it and keep it nice and contained and can stop any time I want. I just don’t want to! Leave me alone!”
"I'm gonna root against my own alma mater because my entire college experience got ruined! Where's my trophy? Waaa!"
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"I'm gonna root against my own alma mater because my entire college experience got ruined! Where's my trophy? Waaa!"
“I graduated in 82 but it fulfills me to bash college kids that transferred away from beloved alma mater (while being coached by a guy I have backed myself into the corner on because he can’t win anything meaningful but I keep trotting out new defenses for him in a meaningless online forum) and now people online are calling my obsession weird and it’s making me even more defensive!
Waaaaaa!”
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“I graduated in 82 but it fulfills me to bash college kids that transferred away from beloved alma mater (while being coached by a guy I have backed myself into the corner on because he can’t win anything meaningful but I keep trotting out new defenses for him in a meaningless online forum) and now people online are calling my obsession weird and it’s making me even more defensive!
Waaaaaa!”
You're not very good at this. And please don't tell me you transferred because of the basketball program.
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You're not very good at this. And please don't tell me you transferred because of the basketball program.
Referring to 82’s bashing of the Hausers due to their transfers. You’re not very good at following the thread.
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You’re both pretty obsessed with the specific topics tbh
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Given the devolution of this thread, I assume the "HOT" in the title stands for "Holding On TO (grudges)"
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Haranguing
Over
Trivia
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Haranguing
Over
Trivia
Hapelessly
Orating
Tropes
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Maybe you’re both obsessed ?
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Now I have become obsessed about being obsessed
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Now I have become obsessed about being obsessed
And, I thought the thread title was about you and I.
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And, I thought the thread title was about you and I.
8-)
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And, I thought the thread title was about you and I.
me and you, not you and I.
Sorry. I'm obsessed with good grammar.
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Haunted by the past
Obsession personified
Grudges don’t die fast
Where is the haiku guy?
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Haunted by the past
Obsession personified
Grudges don’t die fast
Where is the haiku guy?
Long gone, thankfully.
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me and you, not you and I.
Sorry. I'm obsessed with good grammar.
The Little Monsters obsessives tell me it's "You and I". Sorry
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The Little Monsters obsessives tell me it's "You and I". Sorry
Sorry, Blackie, it's "you and me".
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This could go on for...ETERNITY
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Sorry, Blackie, it's "you and me".
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Speaking of hijacking…
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The Little Monsters obsessives tell me it's "You and I". Sorry
Same from Jon Anderson.
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Where is the haiku guy?
Speaking with Squealing to HR