In my opinion, Providence is probably the biggest Pre-Tender in the Big East. They have lost to us, only beat G-Town by 8 last night, along 49th in strength of schedule this year. And in their game against UW at the beginning of the year, which they won, Johnny Davis didn't even play. Making that win pretty much a fake win. Barely squeaked by teams like Northwestern and lost to Virginia. Although this might be a hot-take, I truly believe that they won't make it far in the BET and the Tournament. And just to finish this off, KenPom has them as #1 in Luck rating.
Fake win. Never heard that one before.
I tend to agree with your overall thoughts and I'm pretty skeptical that they can win the BE, but they had a really nice out of conference and won at UConn and I don't see anything wrong with having a Top 50 SOS. They were a 10.5pt favorite yesterday and won by 8, so nothing disastrous there. And let's not forget that MU pulled out 1pt wins against KState and Illinois who both didn't have their best players.
Quote from: LAZER on January 21, 2022, 10:45:26 AM
I tend to agree with your overall thoughts and I'm pretty skeptical that they can win the BE, but they had a really nice out of conference and won at UConn and I don't see anything wrong with having a Top 50 SOS. They were a 10.5pt favorite yesterday and won by 8, so nothing disastrous there. And let's not forget that MU pulled out 1pt wins against KState and Illinois who both didn't have their best players.
Yeah, that SOS was far-fetched, my bad.
On this note, our NET ranking raised by 1 spot...because Providence dropped 2 spots after their unconvincing win at Georgetown.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 21, 2022, 10:52:27 AM
On this note, our NET ranking raised by 1 spot...because Providence dropped 2 spots after their unconvincing win at Georgetown.
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Quote from: VanderBlueFanClub on January 21, 2022, 10:06:58 AM
In my opinion, Providence is probably the biggest Pre-Tender in the Big East. They have lost to us, only beat G-Town by 8 last night, along 49th in strength of schedule this year. And in their game against UW at the beginning of the year, which they won, Johnny Davis didn't even play. Making that win pretty much a fake win. Barely squeaked by teams like Northwestern and lost to Virginia. Although this might be a hot-take, I truly believe that they won't make it far in the BET and the Tournament. And just to finish this off, KenPom has them as #1 in Luck rating.
Sorry I have to disagree. They beat Seton Hall and UCOnn and have some good wins. I think the 8 point win over Georgetown had to do with their COvid break. They hadn't played in 12 days and missed 3 games in a row (4 total). I don't think they will win the big East as they fall back as they play more games but they will finish in the top 6.
Quote from: BallBoy on January 21, 2022, 06:12:22 PM
Sorry I have to disagree. They beat Seton Hall and UCOnn and have some good wins. I think the 8 point win over Georgetown had to do with their COvid break. They hadn't played in 12 days and missed 3 games in a row (4 total). I don't think they will win the big East as they fall back as they play more games but they will finish in the top 6.
UConn was without Sanogo.
SHU was without Obiagu and Samuel.
Providence is fine. Solid team. No good wins over teams that weren't missing key players.
Of course they will finish in the top 6. They are 5-1 and I'm not confident any ofthe bottom 4 even gets to 6 wins.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 21, 2022, 06:57:53 PM
UConn was without Sanogo.
SHU was without Obiagu and Samuel.
Providence is fine. Solid team. No good wins over teams that weren't missing key players.
Of course they will finish in the top 6. They are 5-1 and I'm not confident any ofthe bottom 4 even gets to 6 wins.
Providence hasn't played with AJ Reeves since 1/1 including in the loss to Marquette.
I agree that Providence is a good solid team which means they aren't the biggest pretender. Especially when the only evidence is they only beat Georgetown by 8. They beat who they should and may have caught a break here or there.
Quote from: VanderBlueFanClub on January 21, 2022, 10:06:58 AM
In my opinion, Providence is probably the biggest Pre-Tender in the Big East. They have lost to us, only beat G-Town by 8 last night, along 49th in strength of schedule this year. And in their game against UW at the beginning of the year, which they won, Johnny Davis didn't even play. Making that win pretty much a fake win. Barely squeaked by teams like Northwestern and lost to Virginia. Although this might be a hot-take, I truly believe that they won't make it far in the BET and the Tournament. And just to finish this off, KenPom has them as #1 in Luck rating.
so, what's your take on MU's win over Illinois? Their best guy didn't play in that one.
Ok so even if a team wins they still suck if 1) the other team isn't plating its best game ever and/or has a key player or two missing, 2) they don't win by a ton of points, 3) they "get lucky" whatever that means? Got it.
What a stupid argument!
Quote from: VanderBlueFanClub on January 21, 2022, 10:06:58 AM
In my opinion, Providence is probably the biggest Pre-Tender in the Big East. They have lost to us, only beat G-Town by 8 last night, along 49th in strength of schedule this year. And in their game against UW at the beginning of the year, which they won, Johnny Davis didn't even play. Making that win pretty much a fake win. Barely squeaked by teams like Northwestern and lost to Virginia. Although this might be a hot-take, I truly believe that they won't make it far in the BET and the Tournament. And just to finish this off, KenPom has them as #1 in Luck rating.
Probably should wait on this until we play them at their place.
Beat Xavier tonight.
Was fun beating 'em by 533 points at Fiserv. Will be fun beating 'em again at the Dunk.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 21, 2022, 12:07:21 PM
You're gonna get in trouble for this Fluffy.
It's ok, he's woke. ;D
Yes, ^^^ that's bait. 8-)
https://twitter.com/BWMcGair03/status/1486696223566405633?s=20
I was kind of expecting that. Sunday at Noon, which I guess is 11:00 Central, works better for me anyway!
My guess is they still fly in Friday and just hunker down.
Goodman has placed Providence at #15 in CBS's "Top 25 and 1" today and Marquette at #18.
It's like you guys don't know how Jinxes work.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 30, 2022, 01:39:48 PM
It's like you guys don't know how Jinxes work.
I keep forgetting that jinxes only work the 8th time.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 27, 2022, 01:32:17 PM
Goodman has placed Providence at #15 in CBS's "Top 25 and 1" today and Marquette at #18.
A little late on this, but I am 100% confident this did not happen.
So what does their remaining schedule look like? Do they play Nova, UConn, SH, Creighton?
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Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 02, 2022, 02:31:23 PM
So what does their remaining schedule look like? Do they play Nova, UConn, SH, Creighton?
They likely aren't making up their postponed games at Creighton, at Seton Hall, or at home against UConn.
Major break for them.
The Provi really is the luckiest team in the nation this season.