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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on November 13, 2021, 09:57:06 AM
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Give it to me straight, where do we go from here? I know it's a process but:
1) What rotation or 5 at crunch-time would you like to see?
2) WIth no Cockburn should we go small ball ( no pun intended) more?
3) It sounds like our h-c offense was a lot of launching, can we play more inside-out or in the high-post?
4) We definitely need to rebound better, am I missing something or is this a pure fundamental issue? Do our guards need to crash the glass more?
5) What's our best defensive strategy vs the Illini? Who do we try to eliminate with with two of their weapons not playing?
6) Can we control tempo in this one and what is our best option here?
* Having slept on it, despite our issues, I think early in the season anything can happen. I expect us to be no more than four point dogs. I also believe you will see an entirely different focus and tenacity from our guys. Obviously, we're going to have to shoot better but hopefully the crowd is electric and we can play from ahead in the first half.
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I don't have a big issue with the amount of attempts from deep, but the quick ones drive me a little bonkers. Those are shots they can get at any time in the possession.
They switched a lot more which I think led to some of those defensive rebounding issues. The guards need to start chipping in as well, as you said. They emphasize getting out in transition, and I think that takes the guards away from the boards.
I think their best lineup is Mitchell, Morsell, Lewis, Prosper, and Oso. Kolek looked banged up last night and spent most of the second half on the exercise bike. Grabbed at the hamstring while doing it.
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Tighten the rotation. Less Joplin and EE. - this might be tough if Kolek is injured. Start Osa.
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Have a covid breakout
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Have a covid breakout
Huh? Keep your head up Uncle R.
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I don't have a big issue with the amount of attempts from deep, but the quick ones drive me a little bonkers. Those are shots they can get at any time in the possession.
They switched a lot more which I think led to some of those defensive rebounding issues. The guards need to start chipping in as well, as you said. They emphasize getting out in transition, and I think that takes the guards away from the boards.
I think their best lineup is Mitchell, Morsell, Lewis, Prosper, and Oso. Kolek looked banged up last night and spent most of the second half on the exercise bike. Grabbed at the hamstring while doing it.
My concern with this line-up is I'm not sure O-Max can be effective on the perimeter at the 3. I heard Oso played well yesterday. Maybe he can get a few more rim runs? If Kolek is okay we can essentially play 5 out with JLew at the 5. I'm just throwing stuff out there but I do think O-Max is a key player for us on both ends.
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Accept it as a learning experience for a young team. Embrace the process and not worry about the result. The worst thing that can happen is injuries that affect the rest of the season. A loss is irrelevant. What can be taken from it and what can be built from it?
A win would be cool as hell.
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Learn how to shoot. We're getting looks, but not making them. Shoot 35% from three and maybe we'll have a chance.
With no Cockburn, we should have an edge inside, but I think playing small would be playing into what they want us to do. Though so far Coleman Hawkins has been pretty good, so their gameplan may not change much.
As far as rebounding, it's worth remembering UNH is a very good rebounding team. Guadarrama and Rodriguez are both experienced, proven rebounders. I was a little surprised by their early offensive boards last night, but we adjusted to that and they are regularly among the most elite defensive rebounding teams in the country.
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I know we’re two games into a season but a noticeable difference between Shaka and Wojos teams thus far is how the team responds to runs.
The last few years if we went cold a 6-0 run turned into a 15-2 run in a hurry. Last night we always seemed to have an answer and didn’t let mistakes compound. It’s a positive sign.
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Accept it as a learning experience for a young team. Embrace the process and not worry about the result. The worst thing that can happen is injuries that affect the rest of the season. A loss is irrelevant. What can be taken from it and what can be built from it?
A win would be cool as hell.
Yes, this is a young team, but the future with Shaka should be interesting. With Morsell leaving, next years team will be much younger with no seniors on the team.
The bigs for next year are not impressive so far. Have to recruit a center as Oso is physically not big enough to handle the bigs in the Big East. I have one question that intrigues me, how come Shaka did not sign 1 Texas kid last year? Secondly, this had to be a bad recruiting class that Shaka was bringing into Texas. Not sold on the 3 kids he was recruiting to Texas now at MU. Now Beard has Texas in the Top 3 in the country already. The 2 recruits for next year are 3 star kids, he only has 2
scholarships available the next 2 years, better bring in 1 4 or 5 star. Next year might be worse. Thirdly, if you have a bad 3 point shooting team, maybe in the first half
you should run some plays to get easier shots. Its going to be a long 2 years, hope I am wrong.
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Yes, this is a young team, but the future with Shaka should be interesting. With Morsell leaving, next years team will be much younger with no seniors on the team.
The bigs for next year are not impressive so far. Have to recruit a center as Oso is physically not big enough to handle the bigs in the Big East. I have one question that intrigues me, how come Shaka did not sign 1 Texas kid last year? Secondly, this had to be a bad recruiting class that Shaka was bringing into Texas. Not sold on the 3 kids he was recruiting to Texas now at MU. Now Beard has Texas in the Top 3 in the country already. The 2 recruits for next year are 3 star kids, he only has 2
scholarships available the next 2 years, better bring in 1 4 or 5 star. Next year might be worse. Thirdly, if you have a bad 3 point shooting team, maybe in the first half
you should run some plays to get easier shots. Its going to be a long 2 years, hope I am wrong.
That is assuming Elliott does not return and no senior transfers.
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Young players need about 20-30 games to understand the defense and not have so many stupid fouls.
And they need to shoot 15% better on open three’s
By Tuesday be a stretch to achieve this.
However, tightening up the rotation against a quality opponent may help.
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Making some shots will cure a lot of problems. They'll fall sooner or later. There are some good jump shooters on this roster, I think.
Also need to toughen up the rebounding game. Too many of them getting pushed around.
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Can we quickly clone Morsell and play him at all 5 positions?
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Can we quickly clone Morsell and play him at all 5 positions?
If a genie could grant me one wish, it would be that Morrsell was a soph. How'd you like to build a lineup around this kid for the next couple of years?? Really a sold player (and I think leader).
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If a genie could grant me one wish, it would be that Morrsell was a soph. How'd you like to build a lineup around this kid for the next couple of years?? Really a sold player (and I think leader).
I think the hope is that we have a freshman Morsell on this team already. Maybe even 2 or 3. And by seeing senior Morsell this year that's the foundation we'll have for the next couple years.
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I think the hope is that we have a freshman Morsell on this team already. Maybe even 2 or 3. And by seeing senior Morsell this year that's the foundation we'll have for the next couple years.
I think we need a big moving forward B-City. Ideally a switchable with the toughness to defend and rebound. It's early but O-Max needs to play with a harnessed agression. I believe both Kuath and O-Max can step it up, the question is how best to utilize their skills.
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Give it to me straight, where do we go from here? I know it's a process but:
1) What rotation or 5 at crunch-time would you like to see?
2) WIth no Cockburn should we go small ball ( no pun intended) more?
3) It sounds like our h-c offense was a lot of launching, can we play more inside-out or in the high-post?
4) We definitely need to rebound better, am I missing something or is this a pure fundamental issue? Do our guards need to crash the glass more?
5) What's our best defensive strategy vs the Illini? Who do we try to eliminate with with two of their weapons not playing?
6) Can we control tempo in this one and what is our best option here?
* Having slept on it, despite our issues, I think early in the season anything can happen. I expect us to be no more than four point dogs. I also believe you will see an entirely different focus and tenacity from our guys. Obviously, we're going to have to shoot better but hopefully the crowd is electric and we can play from ahead in the first half.
1) 8 man rotation, cut out Joplin and EE just for this game. (idk shaka might still play Jop) The lineups should be fine otherwise.
2) No need to go much smaller than we have been. IU still has two 6'10" bigs that are relatively mobile.
3) Lewis got going on high post late, but other than that the few times we get slowed down into hc sets, i dont expect this team to do that.
4) We havent rebounded as poorly as i thought, the rate his higher than last year, but the ranking is better this year thus far. I dont think rebounding a top 5 problem with last years team. Though the problem might be the guards not pulling their weight in this category. Morsell has 8.4% DR% next highest guard is mitchell at 4.7%.
5) Their first game was a TO rate of 29 percent, I would press the crap out of them.
6) Statistically we should play slower to reduce possession and have a better chance to win. But for the long term health of the team I would try to play fast with the offensive struggles. Granted the team has been playing "fast" which is slightly part of the offensive problem (13.4 seconds per offensive possesion).But vs IU, theyll need quick buckets unless they look alive from 3 sometime soon.
I expect to lose by 8-12. You'll get the best version of this team on monday my guess is. Had MU have more average shooting games through the first two and lets say end up shooting 32% from three, worse than last year, it would translate to MU having an 86th ranked offensive efficiency and they would be 85th in KP instead of 96
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I think we need a big moving forward B-City. Ideally a switchable with the toughness to defend and rebound. It's early but O-Max needs to play with a harnessed agression. I believe both Kuath and O-Max can step it up, the question is how best to utilize their skills.
Probably more than one. But he won't be here before Monday.
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MU will still go deep as they will push the activity on D. We will hit threes like we did against BC and the exhibition. The crowd will be pumped. Wouldn’t be surprised with an upset W.
Remember, Morsell has played against the Illini. A few starters have something to prove yet with their inauspicious start. Getting into a half court game is not to MU’s benefit as this is a tough D. Race them. Illini by 4 but that’s upset territory.
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It sounds counterintuitive, but I agree with both Dr. B's optimism and with tower's colder, realistic view.
3, 5, 10 years from now, if Shaka turns out to have been a successful coach at Marquette, I have a feeling we'll look back at this season as mostly a culture-building season in which guys learned what it takes to succeed at this level and in Shaka's system. We'll say, "We might not have won as much as we wanted that first year, but the program took a major step forward ... and led us to where we are now as a perennial NCAA tourney team with a legit chance to advance to the second weekend every year." Improvement -- within games, game-to-game, week-to-week, month-to-month -- will have been the important measuring stick for this Shaka 1.0 team.
So in that vein, I agree with tower.
But I do hear what Dr. B (and others who are somewhat more hopeful about this season's results) are saying. If we can shoot better and clean up some things, we can win some games that, today, might look like probable losses. We have some talent, we have some length, we have a 5th-year senior leader, we have a proven coach, we have a good home court. A few teams on our schedule might be unbeatable for us, but only a few; and, short-handed, Illinois wouldn't appear to be one of the few.
Many of us have lots of friends/acquaintances who went to Illinois, so this sure would be a nice win.
We Are Marquette!
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3) It sounds like our h-c offense was a lot of launching, can we play more inside-out or in the high-post?
"Sounds like"? Have you really not watched either game thus far?
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It sounds counterintuitive, but I agree with both Dr. B's optimism and with tower's colder, realistic view.
3, 5, 10 years from now, if Shaka turns out to have been a successful coach at Marquette, I have a feeling we'll look back at this season as mostly a culture-building season in which guys learned what it takes to succeed at this level and in Shaka's system. We'll say, "We might not have won as much as we wanted that first year, but the program took a major step forward ... and led us to where we are now as a perennial NCAA tourney team with a legit chance to advance to the second weekend every year." Improvement -- within games, game-to-game, week-to-week, month-to-month -- will have been the important measuring stick for this Shaka 1.0 team.
So in that vein, I agree with tower.
But I do hear what Dr. B (and others who are somewhat more hopeful about this season's results) are saying. If we can shoot better and clean up some things, we can win some games that, today, might look like probable losses. We have some talent, we have some length, we have a 5th-year senior leader, we have a proven coach, we have a good home court. A few teams on our schedule might be unbeatable for us, but only a few; and, short-handed, Illinois wouldn't appear to be one of the few.
Many of us have lots of friends/acquaintances who went to Illinois, so this sure would be a nice win.
We Are Marquette!
I think that's probably right. We will likely lose to some teams we shouldn't but also beat teams we shouldn't. I see no reason why a win vs a depleted Illinois team is out of the question. Remember, things can change drastically game to game. Clearly we do need to hit some shots though.
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I see no reason why a win vs a depleted Illinois team is out of the question.
They are far from "depleted". They've been drubbing their cupcakes, MU has been trying to find encouraging signs against their cupcakes. Stranger things than an MU win have happened, so it's not "out of the question". But I think we get smacked by about 15, based on what I've seen so far.
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They are far from "depleted". They've been drubbing their cupcakes, MU has been trying to find encouraging signs against their cupcakes. Stranger things than an MU win have happened, so it's not "out of the question". But I think we get smacked by about 15, based on what I've seen so far.
Wouldn't surprise me at all, rock. I hope you're wrong, of course. Hell, you hope you're wrong!
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A win on Monday would be glorious.
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Hell, you hope you're wrong!
A win on Monday would be glorious.
Yup!
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"Sounds like"? Have you really not watched either game thus far?
I watched the first game, not UNH.
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It sounds counterintuitive, but I agree with both Dr. B's optimism and with tower's colder, realistic view.
3, 5, 10 years from now, if Shaka turns out to have been a successful coach at Marquette, I have a feeling we'll look back at this season as mostly a culture-building season in which guys learned what it takes to succeed at this level and in Shaka's system. We'll say, "We might not have won as much as we wanted that first year, but the program took a major step forward ... and led us to where we are now as a perennial NCAA tourney team with a legit chance to advance to the second weekend every year." Improvement -- within games, game-to-game, week-to-week, month-to-month -- will have been the important measuring stick for this Shaka 1.0 team.
So in that vein, I agree with tower.
But I do hear what Dr. B (and others who are somewhat more hopeful about this season's results) are saying. If we can shoot better and clean up some things, we can win some games that, today, might look like probable losses. We have some talent, we have some length, we have a 5th-year senior leader, we have a proven coach, we have a good home court. A few teams on our schedule might be unbeatable for us, but only a few; and, short-handed, Illinois wouldn't appear to be one of the few.
Many of us have lots of friends/acquaintances who went to Illinois, so this sure would be a nice win.
We Are Marquette!
What system? From what I have seen the last two games our half court offense is not that much different than Wojo's. Please explain if I am wrong.
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Wojo ran more sets. Shaka is more dribble drive. As these guys get experienced, I expect to see something similar to what Buzz ran with the midgets. Drive, draw, dish, repeat. Until you get a wide open three or lane to the basket.
Need to get quicker and more confident with the reads. Give it time.
I fear a zone.
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Looking forward to the game Monday. Let’s see what our squad can bring .
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What system? From what I have seen the last two games our half court offense is not that much different than Wojo's. Please explain if I am wrong.
It starts with constant movement. On turnovers, you get it and go. On a made basket, the closest player takes it out and quickly inbounds to the nearest guard or wing. There's no dedicated ball-handler. That's a big difference from Wojo.
Shaka's system is predicated on three types of shots. Type one are shots in the close paint. I think it's generally about 5 feet and in. Those are high percentage shots. They get those by driving or offensive putbacks. This isn't a back you down offense, you won't see Kur channeling Theo John. Dunks and layups are preferred, and to draw fouls. Type two are open threes. Also high percentage, especially because of the value of a made three. Type three is everything else, and that's discouraged. Mid-range twos, guarded threes, those are no-nos.
I think they also want more off the ball movement. It's not there yet, but other than Howard, I don't think Wojo's teams were great at constantly working to get open.
Finally, it's rapid attack. The average offensive possession takes 13.2 seconds. Wojo last year had them at 18.3 and the fastest he ever had was 16.2, and that was up-tempo. I don't think we'll stay that fast, but right now it feels pretty obvious watching that this is a far more aggressive offense.
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Thank you for the mention of off the ball movement. There hasn't been enough of that. Weak side cuts when the defender slides to help.
Again, there is nothing wrong with this offensive scheme. It will take time to get everyone to run every nuance of it.
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Pray
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MU will still go deep as they will push the activity on D. We will hit threes like we did against BC and the exhibition. The crowd will be pumped. Wouldn’t be surprised with an upset W.
Remember, Morsell has played against the Illini. A few starters have something to prove yet with their inauspicious start. Getting into a half court game is not to MU’s benefit as this is a tough D. Race them. Illini by 4 but that’s upset territory.
I like it DB! Preach!
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I like it DB! Preach!
Preach & Pray go together. But seriously what is really bothering me is the amount of silly unnecessary fouls. It is not because of the press but silly half court, most of the time almost tackling the offensive player.
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I know we’re two games into a season but a noticeable difference between Shaka and Wojos teams thus far is how the team responds to runs.
The last few years if we went cold a 6-0 run turned into a 15-2 run in a hurry. Last night we always seemed to have an answer and didn’t let mistakes compound. It’s a positive sign.
I don't think Wojo had such runs against the buy-game opponents--those big runs by opponents last year were aginst the likes of UConn, Villanova and Georgetown. I'm not sure stopping a SIU-E or UNH run tells us anything
And even then, SIU-E managed to turn a 6-0 run into a 14-1 run in a hurry.
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Preach & Pray go together. But seriously what is really bothering me is the amount of silly unnecessary fouls. It is not because of the press but silly half court, most of the time almost tackling the offensive player.
Yeah, like right after Stevie Mitchell made a great play late in the game. Then he "almost tackled" a NH player seconds later. I like Mitchell and he certainly was not the only one committing the type of foul you described.
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Mitchell had like 3 or 4 reaching fouls not good
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Reaching is no bueno. Hopefully we nip that in the bud.
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First two games you're playing not to lose, this game you have nothing to lose - like Shaka's VCU teams. We may not win but I expect we'll put on a damn good show. If we get the barn doors blown off (20+) it would be concerning.
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Crean sucks
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Do we go to Morsell if we need a bucket? Back in the day I went to my 9 -12 foot floater or mid-range stop and pop. Of course I played against worse competition but where do we go to get an autohoop or 2 free throws?
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Do we go to Morsell if we need a bucket? Back in the day I went to my 9 -12 foot floater or mid-range stop and pop. Of course I played against worse competition but where do we go to get an autohoop or 2 free throws?
Yes. When we were down 62-59, I turned to my friend and said "it's time to go to Morsell." He scored the next 7 points. Morsell has shown he has the knack for the big moment. If the game's on the line, he's the guy we go to.
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First two games you're playing not to lose, this game you have nothing to lose - like Shaka's VCU teams. We may not win but I expect we'll put on a damn good show. If we get the barn doors blown off (20+) it would be concerning.
This is a good point. There was a tension in the past two games of "OMG, we can't F**K this up." Against the Illini, it could be, "let's see if this could work." MU could easily get totally overrun. Or, the team could find a bit of magic that works. It wouldn't be magic that would be guaranteed to work in the BEast, but it could be an indicator of options.
I don't expect a win for MU, though I can imagine a win for MU, a tight game, or a blowout for Illinois.
And, in agreement with the general gist for the season, I want to see how lessons learned on Monday influence play later in the season. Win or lose on Monday.
All that said, my preference is for a win against the Illini.
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I don't have a big issue with the amount of attempts from deep, but the quick ones drive me a little bonkers. Those are shots they can get at any time in the possession.
100% agree. A rushed semi open 3 early in the shot clock is never my favorite option - and when your shooters are struggling I hate it even more. Make the extra pass (or two), get a wide open shot that’s unhurried.
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This is a good point. There was a tension in the past two games of "OMG, we can't F**K this up." Against the Illini, it could be, "let's see if this could work." MU could easily get totally overrun. Or, the team could find a bit of magic that works. It wouldn't be magic that would be guaranteed to work in the BEast, but it could be an indicator of options.
I don't expect a win for MU, though I can imagine a win for MU, a tight game, or a blowout for Illinois.
And, in agreement with the general gist for the season, I want to see how lessons learned on Monday influence play later in the season. Win or lose on Monday.
All that said, my preference is for a win against the Illini.
Not gonna lie, I think this is Shaka's approach to most things. Learning is the number 1 thing
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Do we go to Morsell if we need a bucket? Back in the day I went to my 9 -12 foot floater or mid-range stop and pop. Of course I played against worse competition but where do we go to get an autohoop or 2 free throws?
Too bad you didn't dunk in high school. Muggsy not about you, heck we're about same height, rest of the board will understand, you were no here for that beauty.
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This is a good point. There was a tension in the past two games of "OMG, we can't F**K this up." Against the Illini, it could be, "let's see if this could work." MU could easily get totally overrun. Or, the team could find a bit of magic that works. It wouldn't be magic that would be guaranteed to work in the BEast, but it could be an indicator of options.
I don't expect a win for MU, though I can imagine a win for MU, a tight game, or a blowout for Illinois.
And, in agreement with the general gist for the season, I want to see how lessons learned on Monday influence play later in the season. Win or lose on Monday.
All that said, my preference is for a win against the Illini.
My thoughts are pretty similar.
As much as I would love to see us upset UI, it's far more likely to be an opportunity to learn from what worked and what did not. With several injured players already, I think if UI has a solid lead by the mid point of the second half they will not risk more injuries by keeping their foot on the pedal, so a blowout loss may be less likely.
I'm more concerned about possibly being upset by NI or Jackson St. than I am about losing to UI. Whatever chances we may have to be in Dayton or the NIT at the end of the season, they are gone if we are upset by either of those two teams. My guess is that our first two games were a big enough wake up call to some of our new guys and that our team handles those two opponents with ease.
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Too bad you didn't dunk in high school. Muggsy not about you, heck we're about same height, rest of the board will understand, you were no here for that beauty.
What I don't understand is the elimination of the floater, inside autobucket, or mid-range game. Gonzaga dominated Texas last night with deuces. Also, if you're brick city from distance it often leads to much easier hoops and the transition game on the other end. My philosophy has always been when in doubt? Attack.
There's a reason no one could guard Tony Parker back in the day because he had the count-it floater. All I'm saying is we need a balance and there are times during the course of a game you need to stop momentum and get a bucket. I understand the analytics but I feel less anxiety when we can balance our scoring with paint points and free throws. We also need more offensive rebs.
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What I don't understand is the elimination of the floater, inside autobucket, or mid-range game. Gonzaga dominated Texas last night with deuces. Also, if you're brick city from distance it often leads to much easier hoops and the transition game on the other end. My philosophy has always been when in doubt? Attack.
There's a reason no one could guard Tony Parker back in the day because he had the count-it floater. All I'm saying is we need a balance and there are times during the course of a game you need to stop momentum and get a bucket. I get the analytics but I feel less anxiety when we can balance our scoring with paint points and free throws. We also need more offensive rebs.
Curry is famously deadly with his floater ... but that shot is made more deadly because he is the greatest distance shooter ever. So you don't close out on Curry, and he kills you with 3s; you do close out and he goes by you and floats.
Harden and LaMelo, among others, have similar float games, and they are similarly helped by their ability to hit 3s.
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What I don't understand is the elimination of the floater, inside autobucket, or mid-range game. Gonzaga dominated Texas last night with deuces. Also, if you're brick city from distance it often leads to much easier hoops and the transition game on the other end. My philosophy has always been when in doubt? Attack.
I don't know why you think the floater has been eliminated, it's still very much used. I don't know what an inside autobucket is. The mid range game has been minimized because it is the most inefficient shot in basketball. Players now shoot threes at almost the same rate that they do mid range jumpers so why settle for 2 when you can get 3 with close to the same likelihood that you make the shot?
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Looks like Dodd’s is full in on the “shooting background woes of the Fiserv” affecting this team. Sure the tired legs excuse will make an early than normal appearance from him as well this year.
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I don't know why you think the floater has been eliminated, it's still very much used. I don't know what an inside autobucket is. The mid range game has been minimized because it is the most inefficient shot in basketball. Players now shoot threes at almost the same rate that they do mid range jumpers so why settle for 2 when you can get 3 with close to the same likelihood that you make the shot?
I rarely see the floater a la Tony Parker. As for the mid-range shot I understand the analytics. But that said I'm pretty sure Wade would do just fine in today's college game if he attempted 2 triples a game and took his patented 12-15 footer. Guys can't make the shot with any consistency from what I see. If someone is smothering you on the three point line, and you're a prolific shooter, why not blow by the dude, rise, fire, and take the two points? Some of these three point percentages are putrid btw.
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I don't know why you think the floater has been eliminated, it's still very much used. I don't know what an inside autobucket is. The mid range game has been minimized because it is the most inefficient shot in basketball. Players now shoot threes at almost the same rate that they do mid range jumpers so why settle for 2 when you can get 3 with close to the same likelihood that you make the shot?
I think it is like a gimme in golf. If you are within 3-ft of the hoop, you can just yell "auto bucket" and hand the ball to the ref and get your 2 points.
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If someone is smothering you on the three point line, and you're a prolific shooter, why not blow by the dude, rise, fire, and take the two points?
A pull-up midrange jumper isn't an easy shot.
The value of attacking those closeouts comes from forcing help, IMO. Get the defense moving and let the ball find the best shot.
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If DWade was 20 years younger and just entering college now, he would be shooting 3s and not contested midrangers now too. 3s just were not emphasized nearly as much back then.
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A pull-up midrange jumper isn't an easy shot.
The value of attacking those closeouts comes from forcing help, IMO. Get the defense moving and let the ball find the best shot.
True, but hear me out for a minute.
Suppose your best player and scorer has the ball in his hands in the final 5 mins of the game. He can get a clean mid-range shot at will on every possession. Would you rather move the defense and have someone else take the critical shots down the stretch or your best scorer? Also, when you shoot the ball inside the paint are you not more likely to get an offensive rebound near the rim? I'm not saying I am right but consider this scenario.
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Looks like Dodd’s is full in on the “shooting background woes of the Fiserv” affecting this team. Sure the tired legs excuse will make an early than normal appearance from him as well this year.
Dodd's is afraid to lose his prized courtside seat.
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Preach & Pray go together. But seriously what is really bothering me is the amount of silly unnecessary fouls. It is not because of the press but silly half court, most of the time almost tackling the offensive player.
You should of expected this, because that is what young players do.
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Looks like Dodd’s is full in on the “shooting background woes of the Fiserv” affecting this team. Sure the tired legs excuse will make an early than normal appearance from him as well this year.
The freshman wall will be used adnauseum.
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I rarely see the floater a la Tony Parker. As for the mid-range shot I understand the analytics. But that said I'm pretty sure Wade would do just fine in today's college game if he attempted 2 triples a game and took his patented 12-15 footer. Guys can't make the shot with any consistency from what I see. If someone is smothering you on the three point line, and you're a prolific shooter, why not blow by the dude, rise, fire, and take the two points? Some of these three point percentages are putrid btw.
Wade would be a different player now days.
Growing up more currently he woulda spent much more time on a 3 pt shot. And then still had his flash ability to get to the rim whenever he wanted.
That’s the game. Getting 3 instead of 2 on jumpers or “auto buckets” as you call them at the rim.
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True, but hear me out for a minute.
Suppose your best player and scorer has the ball in his hands in the final 5 mins of the game. He can get a clean mid-range shot at will on every possession. Would you rather move the defense and have someone else take the critical shots down the stretch or your best scorer? Also, when you shoot the ball inside the paint are you not more likely to get an offensive rebound near the rim? I'm not saying I am right but consider this scenario.
As the young ladies in Thailand say, “You tink too much”.
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As the young ladies in Thailand say, “You tink too much”.
LOL.
I love Thailand but the Chiang Mai area over Phuket.
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What I don't understand is the elimination of the floater, inside autobucket, or mid-range game. Gonzaga dominated Texas last night with deuces. Also, if you're brick city from distance it often leads to much easier hoops and the transition game on the other end. My philosophy has always been when in doubt? Attack.
There's a reason no one could guard Tony Parker back in the day because he had the count-it floater. All I'm saying is we need a balance and there are times during the course of a game you need to stop momentum and get a bucket. I understand the analytics but I feel less anxiety when we can balance our scoring with paint points and free throws. We also need more offensive rebs.
My post was a joke referencing a poster here nothing to do with strategy. You're right, but it seems it has become a less desirable shot.
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MU will still go deep as they will push the activity on D. We will hit threes like we did against BC and the exhibition. The crowd will be pumped. Wouldn’t be surprised with an upset W.
Remember, Morsell has played against the Illini. A few starters have something to prove yet with their inauspicious start. Getting into a half court game is not to MU’s benefit as this is a tough D. Race them. Illini by 4 but that’s upset territory.
Ahem
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Looking forward to the game Monday. Let’s see what our squad can bring .
They brought a lot.