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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1990Warrior on February 11, 2008, 09:02:15 AM

Title: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: 1990Warrior on February 11, 2008, 09:02:15 AM
Does anyone know if there is a site that calculates SOS for conference play only?  My guess is that ours should be close to the top based on the quality of our three "mirror - game" opponents.  I was interested in this and how different it was for some of the other teams.
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on February 11, 2008, 09:50:46 AM
according to ESPN, national Conference-only SOS rankings:

UConn     17
Cincy      27
ND          28
S. Hall     36
WVU       37
MU         38
G-Town   46
L'ville      57
St Johns  59
DePaul    61
S Florida  63
Nova      67
Pitt        69
Rutgers   70
Cuse       82
Prov       84
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: Norm on February 11, 2008, 10:50:41 AM
Interesting that Notre Dame's in-conference schedule is ranked higher than Marquette's. As of now, Marquette has had the tougher road venues to play at and has had a tougher home and home series. Must be their game against Georgetown that is giving them an advantage.

ND
WVU W
UConn W
@ MU L
Cincinnati W
@ Georgetown L
@ Villanova W
Providence W
DePaul W
@ Seton Hall W
Marquette
@ UConn
@ Rutgers
Pitt
Syracuse
@ Louisville
@ DePaul
St. John's
@ South Florida

Marquette
Providence W
@ WVU L
Seton Hall W
Notre Dame W
@ Louisville L
@ UConn L
DePaul W
South Florida W
@ Cincinnati W
Louisville L
@ Notre Dame L
@ Seton Hall
Pitt
@ St. John's
Rutgers
@ Villanova
Georgetown
@ Syracuse
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: 1990Warrior on February 11, 2008, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 11, 2008, 09:50:46 AM
according to ESPN, national Conference-only SOS rankings:

UConn     17
Cincy      27
ND          28
S. Hall     36
WVU       37
MU         38
G-Town   46
L'ville      57
St Johns  59
DePaul    61
S Florida  63
Nova      67
Pitt        69
Rutgers   70
Cuse       82
Prov       84

Thanks but those numbers appear to be national ranks.  I am interested in an SOS number similar to those that appear in the real time RPI site - but for conference only.  For instance we currently have a .5721 SOS, but this is national.
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 11, 2008, 11:22:53 AM
Not sure about those numbers.  The Big East Basketball Report does their own BE (only) RPI calculation.  According to their numbers, MU has the #2 SOS behind UCONN, and #4 RPI behind ND (#1), UCONN (#2), GTown (#3) with UL at #5.

Here's the report (http://w3.nbebasketball.com/index.php/big-east-conference-rpi-schedule-analysis/#more-1891)

And the raw numbers
(http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6230.0;attach=585;image)
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: 1990Warrior on February 11, 2008, 11:34:22 AM
Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for, and the Future SOS is great.  I really think that the conference should look at how these mirror games are assigned (does anyone know how these are assigned?) because they are obviously having a tremendous impact on in conference SOS (and our record).
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: mu03eng on February 11, 2008, 11:38:18 AM
If ever there was proof that we have played a front loaded conference schedule its the fact that we are #2 SOS and are projected to finish with a conference SOS of #12!!  That starts to give me some confedence that we can go at least 5-2 to finish the season
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 11, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
Quote from: mu03eng on February 11, 2008, 11:38:18 AM
we are #2 SOS and are projected to finish with a conference SOS of #12!! 

I *may* be wrong, but by reading the article it looks like the "future SOS" is trying to rank how hard your remaining opponents may be, not overall conference SOS.  So down the stretch we have the 12th hardest schedule, Seton Hall has the easiest path the rest of the way, and DePaul has the hardest.

From the article:
QuoteWhen looking at future schedules, it is quite a different story among these teams.  Seton Hall has the easiest schedule left in the conference.  This should make them a safe bet to qualify for the conference tournament and a legitimate shot at winning 10 Big East games this season.

  Villanova has a middle-of-the-pack remaining schedule (Future SOS #9)...

We'll probably end up with a SOS somewhere around 6-8 (my guess).  But I agree, it's encouraging that at least by the numbers, our games should be more "winnable" from here on.
Title: Re: Big East Strength of Schedule
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2008, 07:13:44 PM
That's how I read it as well Rocky
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