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Title: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: tower912 on October 29, 2021, 06:54:36 AM
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/Shaka-Smart-and-Coaches-at-Chicago-fan-Luncheon-174034523/

I wanted to get this here first, before all of the other scoop accounts of the Chicago luncheon are posted.   
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 07:14:40 AM
One luncheon to judge: Neither Shaka nor Megan nor their assistants have partaken in the soul changing experience of Real Chili. We are left to wonder about the interviewing process laid down by one Bill Scholl.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: tower912 on October 29, 2021, 07:28:30 AM
Longhorn fans thought he dissed their barbecue, too.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: dgies9156 on October 29, 2021, 07:59:39 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 07:14:40 AM
One luncheon to judge: Neither Shaka nor Megan nor their assistants have partaken in the soul changing experience of Real Chili. We are left to wonder about the interviewing process laid down by one Bill Scholl.

Obviously they want to live a long, happy life free of arterial blockage and obesity.

On a basketball note, Shaka and his team do not sound like a group who has a projected ninth place basketball. The excitement for what they had was obvious as they work toward getting the guys ready for the season.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: avid1010 on October 29, 2021, 08:00:55 AM
Shaka's talk on retention, along with how you see him interact with the team, is really interesting to me.  IMHO a coach that can regularly put a team on the court that has an identity, experience, and ownership in the program is MU's best chance at sustainable success.  I'm excited to see players develop and to see a meaningful culture and identity within MU hoops.   
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 08:48:38 AM
180 in attendance, so a good turnout, beautiful digs and setting. My tablemates were exceptionally charming.

Shaka called out the MUBB Chicago alums and the fact that MU has no Chicago scholarship players on the roster. Said that has to change and that they were hot on three right now.

Coaches drove together and were arguing minutes and players on way down. Shaka then said 11 of 12 scholarship players were ready for minutes. The article's observers felt that was Keeyan, maybe via a sidebar conversation. But, we thought it was odd that OMax wasn't even mentioned while many Scoopers have him pencilled in as a starter.

Lots of glowing Kam comments. Most ready of the frosh, and mentioned in same breadth as the other prominent players: Morsell, Tyler, Greg and Kur. Don't be surprised by a four guard line-up.

Per Avid's comments about culture and retention, the coaches are assigned players to be mentors. Cody gets the difficult ones and they later mentioned he has Lewis.

Nice pump event. Not a lot to read into anyone's takeaways. However, everyone in the room is very excited about the season.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 29, 2021, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on October 29, 2021, 07:59:39 AM
Obviously they want to live a long, happy life free of arterial blockage and obesity.

On a basketball note, Shaka and his team do not sound like a group who has a projected ninth place basketball. The excitement for what they had was obvious as they work toward getting the guys ready for the season.

Yeah, it's nice to have a guy with marketing/branding chops holding the reins again. Crean was a master at it.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 29, 2021, 09:04:35 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on October 29, 2021, 08:00:55 AM
Shaka's talk on retention, along with how you see him interact with the team, is really interesting to me.  IMHO a coach that can regularly put a team on the court that has an identity, experience, and ownership in the program is MU's best chance at sustainable success. I'm excited to see players develop and to see a meaningful culture and identity within MU hoops.   

1,000%

if he can deliver on that, his chances of success are high
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Warriors4ever on October 29, 2021, 10:00:06 AM
The Real Chili admissions for both the men's and women's staffs were shocking. The men's staff said they hadn't even heard of Real Chili. Props to Steve Bertrand for making it the first question to each staff 🤣
Shaka said the team was in Chicago bonding for a few days. I'm trying to get my head around the entire team being at the Shedd Aquarium.
Definitely need to work on the Chicago pipeline.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: bilsu on October 29, 2021, 10:43:33 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on October 29, 2021, 08:00:55 AM
Shaka's talk on retention, along with how you see him interact with the team, is really interesting to me.  IMHO a coach that can regularly put a team on the court that has an identity, experience, and ownership in the program is MU's best chance at sustainable success.  I'm excited to see players develop and to see a meaningful culture and identity within MU hoops.   
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I was very glad to see him mention the importance of retention.  Wojo did a poor job in this area.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 29, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
Acoustics? Mispronunciations?
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: tower912 on October 29, 2021, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 08:48:38 AM
180 in attendance, so a good turnout, beautiful digs and setting. My tablemates were exceptionally charming.

Shaka called out the MUBB Chicago alums and the fact that MU has no Chicago scholarship players on the roster. Said that has to change and that they were hot on three right now.

Coaches drove together and were arguing minutes and players on way down. Shaka then said 11 of 12 scholarship players were ready for minutes. The article's observers felt that was Keeyan, maybe via a sidebar conversation. But, we thought it was odd that OMax wasn't even mentioned while many Scoopers have him pencilled in as a starter.

Lots of glowing Kam comments. Most ready of the frosh, and mentioned in same breadth as the other prominent players: Morsell, Tyler, Greg and Kur. Don't be surprised by a four guard line-up.

Per Avid's comments about culture and retention, the coaches are assigned players to be mentors. Cody gets the difficult ones and they later mentioned he has Lewis.

Nice pump event. Not a lot to read into anyone's takeaways. However, everyone in the room is very excited about the season.

Thank you, Dr. B.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: MuggsyB on October 29, 2021, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on October 29, 2021, 08:00:55 AM
Shaka's talk on retention, along with how you see him interact with the team, is really interesting to me.  IMHO a coach that can regularly put a team on the court that has an identity, experience, and ownership in the program is MU's best chance at sustainable success.  I'm excited to see players develop and to see a meaningful culture and identity within MU hoops.   

Excellent post.  We absolutely need to get our identity back and all the other things you mentioned.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 29, 2021, 11:32:50 AM
Love what we are hearing about Kam.  Can't wait to see that kid play.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 12:27:54 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 29, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
Acoustics? Mispronunciations?

The guys at my table were slurring. Bertrand introduced the new MU coach, "Shaka Smith".
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: pbiflyer on October 29, 2021, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on October 29, 2021, 11:23:56 AM
Excellent post.  We absolutely need to get our identity back and all the other things you mentioned.

What kind of identity can with have when the staff doesn't even know what real chili is????????  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 29, 2021, 01:32:04 PM
Any Jen Lada sightin's. Iz she still tight wit Ma, hey?
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Goose on October 29, 2021, 01:43:30 PM
Thanks for the Jen Lada shout out, Doc. That reference always makes me laugh hard.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2021, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 12:27:54 PM
The guys at my table were slurring. Bertrand introduced the new MU coach, "Shaka Smith".

Close enough
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2021, 01:43:44 PM
Close enough

Welp, Coach Haynes did try to take Shaka's seat on the dais.

Speaking of which, the assistants were all impressive but Coaches Haynes and Komara do seem ready to take the leap to head coach.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 29, 2021, 02:31:15 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 02:11:02 PM
Welp, Coach Haynes did try to take Shaka's seat on the dais.

Speaking of which, the assistants were all impressive but Coaches Haynes and Komara do seem ready to take the leap to head coach.

Interesting tidbit.  The more quality coaches on the bench, the better
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Warriors4ever on October 29, 2021, 05:04:12 PM
Yeah that was pretty funny when he started to sit down in Shaka's seat.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: real chili 83 on October 30, 2021, 06:38:39 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 08:48:38 AM
180 in attendance, so a good turnout, beautiful digs and setting. My tablemates were exceptionally charming.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 08:48:38 AM

Aw, shucks.  I did think it was rather charitable of us to allow a cardinals fan to sit with us.

One other tidbit, riding the elevator down afterwards with Jerel McNeal, he hopes the next stop on his journey is coaching.  He's probably played his last TBT too.

The afternoon was wrapped up with an executive board meeting of the Underboard, then some shameless day drinking.   A toast to Big Daddy was ratified and passed unanimously. 
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: real chili 83 on October 30, 2021, 06:44:48 AM
Quote from: Warriors4ever on October 29, 2021, 10:00:06 AM
The Real Chili admissions for both the men's and women's staffs were shocking. The men's staff said they hadn't even heard of Real Chili. Props to Steve Bertrand for making it the first question to each staff 🤣
Shaka said the team was in Chicago bonding for a few days. I'm trying to get my head around the entire team being at the Shedd Aquarium.
Definitely need to work on the Chicago pipeline.

I can confirm they weren't at Real Chili the next day for lunch too.   Do we have an issue here?
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: real chili 83 on October 30, 2021, 07:08:21 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 29, 2021, 08:48:38 AM

Coaches drove together and were arguing minutes and players on way down. Shaka then said 11 of 12 scholarship players were ready for minutes.

This too was interesting. Coaches made a big stink about not knowing how minutes will be doled out.  If you take this at face value, players are still being evaluated.  One might think the coaches would have a handle on each player is by now. 

Shaka impresses as someone who has his poop in a group, and knows exactly how minutes will be given out, and that this was just hyperbole, knowing that theses comments would find their way back to the locker room by about 1:45.

Also, want to thank Steve for leading with the question I submitted.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: tower912 on October 30, 2021, 07:37:48 AM
I don't find it surprising at all.  Brand new coaching staff, brand new team with a lot of players with overlapping skill.   It means, for better or for worse, no one has really separated themselves yet.

Look for a very unsettled rotation for a while.   Which wraps back into the shot distribution discussion.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 30, 2021, 10:31:02 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 30, 2021, 07:08:21 AM
This too was interesting. Coaches made a big stink about not knowing how minutes will be doled out.  If you take this at face value, players are still being evaluated.  One might think the coaches would have a handle on each player is by now. 

Shaka impresses as someone who has his poop in a group, and knows exactly how minutes will be given out, and that this was just hyperbole, knowing that theses comments would find their way back to the locker room by about 1:45.

Also, want to thank Steve for leading with the question I submitted.

100% agree, but we both know that fostering competition among the players is best.  You want them all hungry for PT.
Title: Re: Notes from the Chicago luncheon
Post by: bilsu on October 30, 2021, 07:48:04 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 30, 2021, 07:08:21 AM
This too was interesting. Coaches made a big stink about not knowing how minutes will be doled out.  If you take this at face value, players are still being evaluated.  One might think the coaches would have a handle on each player is by now. 

Shaka impresses as someone who has his poop in a group, and knows exactly how minutes will be given out, and that this was just hyperbole, knowing that theses comments would find their way back to the locker room by about 1:45.

Also, want to thank Steve for leading with the question I submitted.
There ar players who play well in practice, but do not play as well in games. Until actual games have been played all newcomers are unknown to how they will play in games.
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