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Title: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: brewcity77 on October 24, 2021, 06:20:54 AM
It gets real for this Marquette team in a hurry as Illinois comes to town. They have a National Player of the Year contender in Kofi Cockburn, a wealth of guards and wings that can score inside and out, and a staff that has embraced analytics in building one of the best two-way teams in the country. Here's Cracked Sidewalks' look at the Fighting Illini:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2021/10/illinois-preview-2021-22.html
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: fjm on October 24, 2021, 07:07:55 AM
Seems like a W for the good guys!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: IrwinFletcher on October 24, 2021, 07:28:56 AM
It gets real for this Marquette team in a hurry as Illinois comes to town. They have a National Player of the Year contender in Kofi Cockburn, a wealth of guards and wings that can score inside and out, and a staff that has embraced analytics in building one of the best two-way teams in the country. Here's Cracked Sidewalks' look at the Fighting Illini:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2021/10/illinois-preview-2021-22.html

A bit of an error in this write up.  Illinois didn't lose to Illinois-Chicago (UIC), they lost to Loyola.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: tower912 on October 24, 2021, 07:33:38 AM
You posted that as I was reading the article.  I noticed that glitch, too.   I am guessing one of his ankle biters distracted him.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: brewcity77 on October 24, 2021, 07:55:07 AM
Fixed! Definitely a slight difference between those two programs. At least I didn't say Chicago State  ;D
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 24, 2021, 08:21:53 AM
Kur on Kofi may be a pretty good defensive matchup for us in the paint and Morsell knows them from the B1G.

After that, our new guys may be exposed on cuts. LUC beat them by wearing them down with a vet team, but MU is very inexperienced. 24% chance of winning but this will be a great learning game I expect for later in the year.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Herman Cain on October 24, 2021, 08:50:45 AM
Perfect time in the schedule for this game. Our young guys get exposed to a quality team early in the season. Can learn and build off the experience.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 24, 2021, 09:15:36 AM
It gets real for this Marquette team in a hurry as Illinois comes to town. They have a National Player of the Year contender in Kofi Cockburn, a wealth of guards and wings that can score inside and out, and a staff that has embraced analytics in building one of the best two-way teams in the country. Here's Cracked Sidewalks' look at the Fighting Illini:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2021/10/illinois-preview-2021-22.html

Felt like there was a lot of doom and gloom in the aftermath of the Illini season ending.  Was surprised when I looked at the roster.  They’re a legit national title contender
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: bilsu on October 24, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Felt like there was a lot of doom and gloom in the aftermath of the Illini season ending.  Was surprised when I looked at the roster.  They’re a legit national title contender
Kofi was not expected to return.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 24, 2021, 10:32:07 AM
Kofi was not expected to return.

Thought there was more attrition above that outside Ayo.  Know the staff got raided.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: mileskishnish72 on October 24, 2021, 07:49:07 PM
Perfect time in the schedule for this game. Our young guys get exposed to a quality team early in the season. Can learn and build off the experience.

It's funny, Herm, you have got to be a huge optimist, and good for you. I was thinking, Holy God, this is no time for a collection of newbies to be playing number 5, and it might put them into a funk for who knows how long.  I was concerned that they might get their ass kicked so badly that it would set them back. Your approach makes me think again. In the long run, what happens out of this game
probably depends on how Shaka shapes what happens and motivates them ongoing.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 27, 2021, 11:34:00 AM
Some chatter about Kofi being suspended a few games...

https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1453152388932587524?s=20 (https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1453152388932587524?s=20)
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 27, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
Some chatter about Kofi being suspended a few games...

https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1453152388932587524?s=20 (https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1453152388932587524?s=20)

Three games is all we need!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 28, 2021, 05:15:16 PM
Three games is all we need!


Only if NCAA doesn't count their exhibition games, then we're fifth.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: MUfan12 on November 01, 2021, 03:11:04 PM
Three games is all we need!

And three games it is.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 01, 2021, 04:23:34 PM
Too bad.  I would like to play them at full Cockburn.

Anyway, punishing someone for a rule that the NCAA ended up rescinding anyway is the most NCAA thing ever.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: brewcity77 on November 01, 2021, 04:33:22 PM
Cockburn is essentially being punished for thinking he was going to go pro, then deciding to choose college basketball. He's being punished by the NCAA for choosing college basketball.

That said, huge benefit for Marquette. If they can take advantage and get the win, that would be a huge feather in the cap come March if they're anywhere near the bubble.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 01, 2021, 04:35:20 PM
Cockburn is essentially being punished for thinking he was going to go pro, then deciding to choose college basketball. He's being punished by the NCAA for choosing college basketball.

That said, huge benefit for Marquette. If they can take advantage and get the win, that would be a huge feather in the cap come March if they're anywhere near the bubble.

My thoughts exactly, if nothing else it'll drum up some excitement for Shaka and a mostly new team early.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Nukem2 on November 01, 2021, 04:45:45 PM
Too bad.  I would like to play them at full Cockburn.

Anyway, punishing someone for a rule that the NCAA ended up rescinding anyway is the most NCAA thing ever.
Can SAs sell gear issued by member schools (as opposed to some licensed gear with their names on)..?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Herman Cain on November 01, 2021, 05:37:14 PM
Who is Cockburns back up ?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: MuggsyB on November 01, 2021, 05:42:29 PM
Cockburn is essentially being punished for thinking he was going to go pro, then deciding to choose college basketball. He's being punished by the NCAA for choosing college basketball.

That said, huge benefit for Marquette. If they can take advantage and get the win, that would be a huge feather in the cap come March if they're anywhere near the bubble.

Huge break for MU.  Gotta take advantage Brew.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 01, 2021, 06:07:08 PM
Cockburn is essentially being punished for thinking he was going to go pro, then deciding to choose college basketball. He's being punished by the NCAA for choosing college basketball.

Meanwhile, $Bill Self remains untouched (5 summers to judge?) and is now giving away free NIL cars to players.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 01, 2021, 07:11:57 PM
Can SAs sell gear issued by member schools (as opposed to some licensed gear with their names on)..?

Too bad.  I would like to play them at full Cockburn.

Anyway, punishing someone for a rule that the NCAA ended up rescinding anyway is the most NCAA thing ever.


not as long as they have eligibility remaining and NIL doesn't change that. I found it amusing that the Ohio State guys who were suspended for trading gear and awards for tattoos were trying to get exonerated when the rule remains the same, they cannot sell or trade school issues gear until the expiration of their eligibility.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 01, 2021, 07:15:14 PM
Free Kofi
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: tower912 on November 01, 2021, 07:18:20 PM
And I was looking forward to MU having the Kur for Cockburn. 
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 01, 2021, 07:18:38 PM

not as long as they have eligibility remaining and NIL doesn't change that. I found it amusing that the Ohio State guys who were suspended for trading gear and awards for tattoos were trying to get exonerated when the rule remains the same, they cannot sell or trade school issues gear until the expiration of their eligibility.


I don't think so.  Illinois' own press release said that he sold them before July 1 when they would have been legal.  Which is just ridiculous - enforcing a rule that they thought so little of that it is no longer a rule.

https://twitter.com/MarkPearsonTV/status/1455270801750564869
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: MuggsyB on November 01, 2021, 07:41:43 PM
And I was looking forward to MU having the Kur for Cockburn.

Now you should forward to Marquette attacking inside relentlessly and efficiently.  Great opportunity for a W, we must take advantage of the situation.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 01, 2021, 08:16:50 PM
Illinois will still be a huge favorite to win
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: MuggsyB on November 01, 2021, 08:28:24 PM
Illinois will still be a huge favorite to win

I disagree. 5 point spread at best.  We can do this!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 01, 2021, 08:29:33 PM
Illinois will still be a huge favorite to win

Veteran guards help
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: MuggsyB on November 01, 2021, 08:59:12 PM
Veteran guards help

We need to attack, attack, attack.  It's a winnable game and I could care less about our youth or the prognosticators.   Hopefully our crowd brings it on a Mon night.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: MU82 on November 01, 2021, 10:50:49 PM
And I was looking forward to MU having the Kur for Cockburn.

Very nice.

I have to admit that when I saw the news, my initial reaction was, “Good. Glad he can’t play against us.”
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 01, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
And I was looking forward to MU having the Kur for Cockburn.

(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.EKOVjbzN_lx3iJaF01fDzAHaE7&pid=Api&P=0&w=226&h=151)
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: PointWarrior on November 02, 2021, 09:55:12 AM
Doesn’t matter - Shaka’s team can only score 53 points, 59 at best. 


I disagree. 5 point spread at best.  We can do this!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 02, 2021, 10:46:15 AM
Doesn’t matter - Shaka’s team can only score 53 points, 59 at best.

So as long as we hold them to 52 points, 58 at worst. Then we're fine. Good thing there's a recent blue print on how a midwestern Jesuit can do that to Illinois, back when they had an even better team too.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 02, 2021, 01:00:48 PM
And I was looking forward to MU having the Kur for Cockburn.

Still, MU will likely will feel a lot of Payne.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Fred Garvin on November 02, 2021, 09:23:03 PM
Illinois center suspended first 3 games,their third game is Marquette!!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Marquette4life on November 02, 2021, 09:44:16 PM
Illinois center suspended first 3 games,their third game is Marquette!!
yes, the "center".... smh only preseason defensive player of the year and possible all american Kofi Cockburn lol
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2021, 06:32:09 AM
Illinois center suspended first 3 games,their third game is Marquette!!

When did that happen?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Fred Garvin on November 03, 2021, 01:15:37 PM
Espn article on November 1st.He sold memorabilia before NIL was approved
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 03, 2021, 01:17:31 PM
Espn article on November 1st.He sold memorabilia before NIL was approved


He's being sarcastic because it was mentioned way up the thread.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 03, 2021, 01:47:35 PM
He's being sarcastic because it was mentioned way up the thread.

Yup, TT had the scoop on Oct 27

Some chatter about Kofi being suspended a few games...

https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1453152388932587524?s=20 (https://twitter.com/brandon_wildman/status/1453152388932587524?s=20)

Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: Fred Garvin on November 03, 2021, 04:02:45 PM
I apologize
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Illinois Preview
Post by: tower912 on November 03, 2021, 04:16:07 PM
Nothing to apologize for.  Scoop.