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Title: Starting 5
Post by: Warrior of Law on June 28, 2021, 06:52:15 PM
Way-too-early starting five:

Morsell (G)
Elliott (G)
Mitchell (G)
Lewis (F)
Kuath (F/C)

Of course, this assumes that Garcia is gone.  "Starting" in November may not mean a whole lot with the depth and inexperience on this roster.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: BCHoopster on June 28, 2021, 07:03:37 PM
If you play small, fine, think Prosser will start and I have heard Ellis is the real deal. Fun to finally see competition up and down the line.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 28, 2021, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Warrior of Law on June 28, 2021, 06:52:15 PM
Way-too-early starting five:

Morsell (G)
Elliott (G)
Mitchell (G)
Lewis (F)
Kuath (F/C)

Of course, this assumes that Garcia is gone.  "Starting" in November may not mean a whole lot with the depth and inexperience on this roster.

Kolek over Mitchell but it's a lot of guessing at this moment
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: rocky_warrior on June 28, 2021, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 28, 2021, 07:03:37 PM
If you play small, fine, think Prosser will start and I have heard Ellis is the real deal. Fun to finally see competition up and down the line.

I guess since Mark Prosser only played one year at Marist he still has eligibility.  Especially with the free covid year.  Can act as the on-court coach!
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MuggsyB on June 28, 2021, 07:14:55 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 28, 2021, 07:03:37 PM
If you play small, fine, think Prosser will start and I have heard Ellis is the real deal. Fun to finally see competition up and down the line.

When you write "the real deal" what are we talking here?  Potential hammer impact?

I do agree with you regarding O-Max.   I'm also wondering if Kolek could be better than people think running the Point?
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 28, 2021, 07:16:28 PM
Kolek will be a starter in game one.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: JTJ3 on June 28, 2021, 07:16:36 PM
Kolek
Elliott
Morsell
Lewis
Kuath
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MuggsyB on June 28, 2021, 07:25:53 PM
Kuath is cool.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Pakuni on June 28, 2021, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on June 28, 2021, 07:16:28 PM
Kolek will be a starter in game one.

I would think so.
Only known quantity as outside shooter on the roster, other than perhaps Greg (hoping his late-season shooting stroke wasn't just a hot streak).
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MuggsyB on June 28, 2021, 07:30:28 PM
Kur Kuath is from Khartoum?  That's badass... nickname possibilities?
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Herman Cain on June 28, 2021, 07:33:17 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 28, 2021, 07:27:42 PM
I would think so.
Only known quantity as outside shooter on the roster, other than perhaps Greg (hoping his late-season shooting stroke wasn't just a hot streak).
Greg 42.3 % career shooting from 3

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/greg-elliott-1.html
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Pakuni on June 28, 2021, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 28, 2021, 07:33:17 PM
Greg 42.3 % career shooting from 3

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/greg-elliott-1.html

Over the last six games last year, he shot 14-for-27, i.e. 51.8%.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Herman Cain on June 28, 2021, 07:44:04 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 28, 2021, 07:40:03 PM
Over the last six games last year, he shot 14-for-27, i.e. 51.8%.
I didn't realize he was hitting at that clip .
Greg  was getting clean looks and was healthy for probably the first time in his career at MU.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MU82 on June 28, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 28, 2021, 07:40:03 PM
Over the last six games last year, he shot 14-for-27, i.e. 51.8%.

Prior to those last six games, he was shooting .410 from 3, and that's pretty darn good in its own right. And as 9-9-9 said, Elliott's at .423 for his career.

Glad he'll be back, and hope he has his healthiest season yet.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 28, 2021, 08:10:13 PM
I think the lineup seeing the most minutes at the end of the season will be Morsell, Ellis, Elliott, Lewis, OMP. The defensive switching potential & passing with that combo is tantalizing.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Herman Cain on June 28, 2021, 08:30:08 PM
Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on June 28, 2021, 08:10:13 PM
I think the lineup seeing the most minutes at the end of the season will be Morsell, Ellis, Elliott, Lewis, OMP. The defensive switching potential & passing with that combo is tantalizing.
That would be a very competitive lineup
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 28, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 28, 2021, 07:40:03 PM
Over the last six games last year, he shot 14-for-27, i.e. 51.8%.

Uh-oh.  The last time a MU player hit 50%+ from three was Markus Howard his freshman year, and he never hit above 50% again in his career.




Yes, I thought I could dispense with the teal this time.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 28, 2021, 10:37:51 PM
OMP is gonna be in the starting lineup for sure. Excited to see him in action this weekend
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 28, 2021, 11:42:29 PM
The players I have heard the most positive things about are Kolek, Ellis, Mitchell, Lewis, and O-Max. I don't know about starting, but barring injuries, I think those 5 +Morsell will be our top 6 players in terms of minutes played by the end of the season. Kuath probably next in line due to size. Elliott, Ighodaro, Jones, and Joplin battling it out for the last two spots in the rotation. Itejere to redshirt. Those are my guesses for now.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MU82 on June 29, 2021, 06:51:03 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 28, 2021, 11:42:29 PM
The players I have heard the most positive things about are Kolek, Ellis, Mitchell, Lewis, and O-Max. I don't know about starting, but barring injuries, I think those 5 +Morsell will be our top 6 players in terms of minutes played by the end of the season. Kuath probably next in line due to size. Elliott, Ighodaro, Jones, and Joplin battling it out for the last two spots in the rotation. Itejere to redshirt. Those are my guesses for now.

Reasonable guesses. I'm thinking replace Kolek or Ellis with Morsell, and that's the starting 5; hard to imagine Morsell coming here for one final season thinking he's not a 30-mpg guy. I also agree that starting is not very important; even most players now realize that minutes matter more.

I can see Shaka giving the starting "honor" to Elliott, a senior leader. But unless Elliott really does have a whole other gear we haven't seen (or have seen only in very brief flashes), I don't think he'll be a big-minutes guy. One sign we're a better team would be if he didn't have to play more than 10-15 minutes most games. And I really like Greg as a player and a warrior.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: warriorchick on June 29, 2021, 07:56:00 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2021, 07:30:28 PM
Kur Kuath is from Khartoum?  That's badass... nickname possibilities?

I would avoid initials.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: BCHoopster on June 29, 2021, 08:10:10 AM
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2021, 06:51:03 AM
Reasonable guesses. I'm thinking replace Kolek or Ellis with Morsell, and that's the starting 5; hard to imagine Morsell coming here for one final season thinking he's not a 30-mpg guy. I also agree that starting is not very important; even most players now realize that minutes matter more.

I can see Shaka giving the starting "honor" to Elliott, a senior leader. But unless Elliott really does have a whole other gear we haven't seen (or have seen only in very brief flashes), I don't think he'll be a big-minutes guy. One sign we're a better team would be if he didn't have to play more than 10-15 minutes most games. And I really like Greg as a player and a warrior.
.

If your trying to change MU culture, Elliott is a weak link on Defense. To soft, really a role player.  Good 6th man, I agree 15 a game, unless he really added some weight and muscle this summer
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: avid1010 on June 29, 2021, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on June 28, 2021, 10:37:51 PM
OMP is gonna be in the starting lineup for sure. Excited to see him in action this weekend
I missed this...where is he playing?
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Its DJOver on June 29, 2021, 08:31:09 AM
Greg may never be a lock down defender, but there is something to be said about his experience.  He's played more Beast games than most of our roster has played collegiate games in general.  I'd also be extremely hesitant to put any freshman in the starting line-up as whenever a Freshman doesn't look lost, it should be seen as a plus.  At least for day one I'd guess; Darryl, Greg, Tyler, Justin, and Kur, with O-Max first off the bench.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: lawdog77 on June 29, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
My guess:
Kolek
Morsell
Ellis
Lewis
Kuath

Bench players with Meaningful minutes
Greg
Omax
Joplin
Mitchell
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 29, 2021, 08:42:22 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on June 29, 2021, 08:18:49 AM
I missed this...where is he playing?

Fiba u19 games this weekend
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on June 29, 2021, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2021, 07:30:28 PM
Kur Kuath is from Khartoum?  That's badass... nickname possibilities?

Special K
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Ardmore Mug on June 29, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
We have already named a street after him-----  S. K K Ave.----- on Milw Southside  ! !  !   8-)
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MuggsyB on June 29, 2021, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 29, 2021, 07:56:00 AM
I would avoid initials.

Oh....didn't think of that one.  Noted!
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:41:18 AM
Quote from: Warrior of Law on June 28, 2021, 06:52:15 PM
Way-too-early starting five:

Morsell (G)
Elliott (G)
Mitchell (G)
Lewis (F)
Kuath (F/C)

Of course, this assumes that Garcia is gone.  "Starting" in November may not mean a whole lot with the depth and inexperience on this roster.

So who would be the odd man out if Garcia returns?
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MU82 on June 29, 2021, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:41:18 AM
So who would be the odd man out if Garcia returns?

That will be a pleasant "problem" to worry about if it actually happens.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: bilsu on June 29, 2021, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:41:18 AM
So who would be the odd man out if Garcia returns?
It actually could be Garcia, if defense is the focus.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2021, 11:42:18 AM
That will be a pleasant "problem" to worry about if it actually happens.

For whom? Certainly not the kid getting cut, but I am in the camp that Shaka has his team.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on June 29, 2021, 11:52:56 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
For whom? Certainly not the kid getting cut, but I am in the camp that Shaka has his team.
nobody needs to get cut if Garcia comes back.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: Pakuni on June 29, 2021, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: bilsu on June 29, 2021, 11:43:06 AM
It actually could be Garcia, if defense is the focus.

No chance.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 29, 2021, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
For whom? Certainly not the kid getting cut, but I am in the camp that Shaka has his team.

We currently have 12 scholarship players. Garcia would be the 13th
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: muwarrior97 on June 29, 2021, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 29, 2021, 07:56:00 AM
I would avoid initials.

BLM would agree  ?-(
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: MU82 on June 29, 2021, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
For whom? Certainly not the kid getting cut, but I am in the camp that Shaka has his team.

Nobody's getting cut, but nice strawman.
Title: Re: Starting 5
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 29, 2021, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 29, 2021, 12:49:21 PM
We currently have 12 scholarship players. Garcia would be the 13th

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