I won't paste it here but IWB has a great column on the new culture of #mubb that is worth the monthly dues.
http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php (http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php)
Quote from: The Lens on June 15, 2021, 09:58:38 AM
I won't paste it here but IWB has a great column on the new culture of #mubb that is worth the monthly dues.
http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php (http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php)
Does it dive into the corrosive effect Jae Crowder has had on the fabric of Marquette athletics
Man he really need to do some multivariate and A/B testing on his website. That thing looks straight out of 2010.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 15, 2021, 10:16:36 AM
Man he really need to do some multivariate and A/B testing on his website. That thing looks straight out of 2010.
HAHAHA...i had to click on it after seeing this. i wonder if vintage websites will ever be a thing. this looks like something i created in web design in middle school when you could build a web page on microsoft word. straight retro!
Quote from: The Lens on June 15, 2021, 09:58:38 AM
I won't paste it here but IWB has a great column on the new culture of #mubb that is worth the monthly dues.
http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php (http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php)
Did he say if the culture change was a #donedeal?
Quote from: The Lens on June 15, 2021, 09:58:38 AM
I won't paste it here but IWB has a great column on the new culture of #mubb that is worth the monthly dues.
http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php (http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php)
Is a blender used?
It was a nice read. The main takeaway that I got from it was that this staff is a lot less "standoffish" than the previous staff. Probably bodes well for guys like IWB who monetize the information they get from these coaches.
Other than that, Shaka has some new sayings on the practice gym walls and also they keep records of certain drills in practice. Nothing too out of the ordinary.
Awesome article. The Marquette head coaching job was not as in demand when Wojo took it as it is now when Shaka took it. The Future is again bright for Marquette.
Don't have access to the article, but one culture thing I've heard is there is a big push towards personal ownership and responsibility towards the program and community.
An example is simply cleaning up after themselves when team functions have finished. Players can not expect the help / support staff to help them with putting dishes away, garbage, even putting away their bowling balls. Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on July 07, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
Don't have access to the article, but one culture thing I've heard is there is a big push towards personal ownership and responsibility towards the program and community.
An example is simply cleaning up after themselves when team functions have finished. Players can not expect the help / support staff to help them with putting dishes away, garbage, even putting away their bowling balls. Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past.
Have to flush for themselves, a'ina?
How good is the noon game, though?
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on July 07, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
Don't have access to the article, but one culture thing I've heard is there is a big push towards personal ownership and responsibility towards the program and community.
An example is simply cleaning up after themselves when team functions have finished. Players can not expect the help / support staff to help them with putting dishes away, garbage, even putting away their bowling balls. Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past.
No offense, but I'm calling major BS on this. It's been commented on for years about Wojo and his (not my quote) "choir boys", or his lack of "squirmy" recruits. The story about Matt and Markus building the basketball court down somewhere in Central America, the story about Markus doing the make-a-wish thing, Sacar and Theo participating in the peaceful protests in Minneapolis, hell, there was just an article about how Wojo recruit Stevie seems to be a genuinely good human being. If they weren't told that they had to clean up after themselves, it's because they already knew it and were doing it themselves. Wojo certainly had flaws, the character of his recruits was not one of them.
Quote from: Its DJOver on July 07, 2021, 10:51:15 PM
No offense, but I'm calling major BS on this. It's been commented on for years about Wojo and his (not my quote) "choir boys", or his lack of "squirmy" recruits. The story about Matt and Markus building the basketball court down somewhere in Central America, the story about Markus doing the make-a-wish thing, Sacar and Theo participating in the peaceful protests in Minneapolis, hell, there was just an article about how Wojo recruit Stevie seems to be a genuinely good human being. If they weren't told that they had to clean up after themselves, it's because they already knew it and were doing it themselves. Wojo certainly had flaws, the character of his recruits was not one of them.
I'm not sure if there's any truth to his post but it certainly wasn't commenting on the character of the players.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 07, 2021, 11:11:37 PM
I'm not sure if there's any truth to his post but it certainly wasn't commenting on the character of the players.
Guess we interpret
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on July 07, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
Players can not expect the help / support staff to help them with putting dishes away, garbage, even putting away their bowling balls. Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past.
different. Also when you come out and say that 1, you didn't read the source material, and 2, provide zero specific examples of the kind of culture that the previous staff had implemented (extremely vague non-specific examples given), you're kind of opening yourself up to criticism.
I did read the article...
My fave?
There's 3 buzz words at the end of each baseline, under each hoop.
South Wall:
VIOLENCE
MULTIPLE EFFORTS
DEFLECTIONS
North Wall:
VIOLENCE
CLOSEOUTS
PAINT
That's a different culture.
Shaka is fomenting violence?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 15, 2021, 10:16:36 AM
Man he really need to do some multivariate and A/B testing on his website. That thing looks straight out of 2010.
2010? More like 2001.
Quote from: Its DJOver on July 07, 2021, 11:41:00 PM
Guess we interpret
different. Also when you come out and say that 1, you didn't read the source material, and 2, provide zero specific examples of the kind of culture that the previous staff had implemented (extremely vague non-specific examples given), you're kind of opening yourself up to criticism.
"Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past."
This could be misinterpreted, sorry about that, this is nothing about the past regime. I think in this situation it's more like when you go to a restaurant, there's a general expectation that someone will pick up your plates. Shaka is trying to remove all of those expectations so the kids can feel like they are starting from nothing, building something up, owning the entire process of becoming a team together. More of a mindset.
Sad part to me as I heard this is that the Annex is where we treat recruits to a good time. Bowling is bowling I guess. I don't have a better option in mind, but feel like we should have one.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on July 08, 2021, 10:04:32 AM
"Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past."
This could be misinterpreted, sorry about that, this is nothing about the past regime. I think in this situation it's more like when you go to a restaurant, there's a general expectation that someone will pick up your plates. Shaka is trying to remove all of those expectations so the kids can feel like they are starting from nothing, building something up, owning the entire process of becoming a team together. More of a mindset.
Sad part to me as I heard this is that the Annex is where we treat recruits to a good time. Bowling is bowling I guess. I don't have a better option in mind, but feel like we should have one.
I guess that may be true, but in the grand scheme of things, I don't really see that mattering. With the off-court issues that some of Buzz's players had, I can't imagine that they were abiding by these guidelines, and nobody cared, because the on-court results were there. By all accounts, Wojo's guys were pretty model student athletes, yet because the on-court results weren't there, he had to go.
I don't really see this as much more than an offseason puff piece from a writer that's trying to get in good with the new coach, especially when it was fairly well known that he didn't have the connections under Wojo that he did under Buzz. Except for a Gregg Marshall Wichita State type situation, you could pretty much swap "Shaka", and "MU", with "coach x" and "University Y", and the article could be pretty close.
Not to say that there's anything wrong with putting out something like this in the offseason, and IWB usually had pretty good stuff, I would just read very little into the nuts and bolts of the article, and see it more as IWB trying to get along with Shaka.
Anonymous Eagle had an article on this back on June 8, although they missed "violence" which is clearly visible in the Point 3 photo. I guess "violence" has replaced "havoc".
https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2021/6/8/22524156/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-summer-workout-mcguire-center-kasten-gym-signs
Violence? Ok seriously what's that about?
Quote from: Warrior1969 on July 08, 2021, 02:29:31 PM
Violence? Ok seriously what's that about?
Relax. Yeah it just means playing hard.
Quote from: Warrior1969 on July 08, 2021, 02:29:31 PM
Violence? Ok seriously what's that about?
It's about the opposite of the last 7 years.
Get ready to start watching Marquette basketball once again.
Quote from: Warrior1969 on July 08, 2021, 02:29:31 PM
Violence? Ok seriously what's that about?
Deflection? What's that about? Why are they wanting to draw attention away from themselves?
Closeouts? What's that about? Are we shopping the blue-light specials at K-Mart?
Quote from: Warrior1969 on July 08, 2021, 02:29:31 PM
Violence? Ok seriously what's that about?
You're really unfamiliar with the idea of playing violent or are you pushing a narrative? Seriously what's that about?
Having a coach that's getting MU back to it's roots is such a welcome thing.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on July 08, 2021, 03:58:32 PM
Closeouts? What's that about? Are we shopping the blue-light specials at K-Mart?
I'm 100% reading these in Mark Wahlberg SNL voice.
Say hello to your mudda for me.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on July 08, 2021, 10:04:32 AM
"Staff is being told to not pick up stuff for them voluntarily as was the expectation in the past."
This could be misinterpreted, sorry about that, this is nothing about the past regime. I think in this situation it's more like when you go to a restaurant, there's a general expectation that someone will pick up your plates. Shaka is trying to remove all of those expectations so the kids can feel like they are starting from nothing, building something up, owning the entire process of becoming a team together. More of a mindset.
Sad part to me as I heard this is that the Annex is where we treat recruits to a good time. Bowling is bowling I guess. I don't have a better option in mind, but feel like we should have one.
Rick Pitino might have some ideas, hey
Quote from: JakeBarnes on July 08, 2021, 05:45:29 PM
I'm 100% reading these in Mark Wahlberg SNL voice.
Say hello to your mudda for me.
Are you talking to a chicken?
I mean I understand hype but come on people it's basketball. It's not exactly walking into a rugby locker room or combat sport gym. Violence seems like an overblown way to make these guys feel extra macho when they are in fact not playing a violent sport.
That being said if it works I'll take wins from underserved "tough guys"
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 09, 2021, 11:43:14 AM
I mean I understand hype but come on people it's basketball. It's not exactly walking into a rugby locker room or combat sport gym. Violence seems like an overblown way to make these guys feel extra macho when they are in fact not playing a violent sport.
That being said if it works I'll take wins from underserved "tough guys"
Trevor Mbakwe would like a word
Quote from: The Lens on July 09, 2021, 12:54:57 PM
Trevor Mbakwe would like a word
The word violence quivers in fear of Mbakwe
You want violent sports?
https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/ (https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/)
Quote from: lawdog77 on July 09, 2021, 01:09:11 PM
You want violent sports?
https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/ (https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/)
Netflix had an interesting series on unusual and dangerous sports last year (Home Game) and the first episode featured Calcio Storico - the Italian sport your link described as "a massive street fight blended with elements of rugby and football." That's a reasonable description, but understand that the emphasis is clearly on the street fight.
It was an interesting series.
Quote from: lawdog77 on July 09, 2021, 01:09:11 PM
You want violent sports?
https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/ (https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/)
No Jarts? :-\
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 09, 2021, 11:43:14 AM
I mean I understand hype but come on people it's basketball. It's not exactly walking into a rugby locker room or combat sport gym. Violence seems like an overblown way to make these guys feel extra macho when they are in fact not playing a violent sport.
That being said if it works I'll take wins from underserved "tough guys"
Meh, I think you're taking it too literally
Quote from: NickelDimer on July 09, 2021, 05:54:30 PM
Meh, I think you're taking it too literally
Probably but even the boxing gyms I used to fight out of wouldn't be so cheesy so I had to have my say about an objectively non contact sport
To me, violence = Buzz ball mentality (flexing while screaming and 1, Crowder throat slash, etc.)
To quote the immortal Juvenile, I need it in my life
I hope Shaka's style plays out that way on the court
Quote from: lawdog77 on July 09, 2021, 01:09:11 PM
You want violent sports?
https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/ (https://sportslens.com/craziest-most-violent-sports/338976/)
yet nothing on regball?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbEf8enGbzE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbEf8enGbzE)
"What's all this I've been hearing about violins on TV?"
You either know or you don't.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on July 13, 2021, 07:43:28 PM
"What's all this I've been hearing about violins on TV?"
You either know or you don't.
"Oh. Never mind."