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Title: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 16, 2021, 11:36:07 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/05/15/marv-albert-retiring-after-2021-nba-playoffs/

End of an era.

The best play-by-play guy ever. Period. Case closed.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Goose on May 16, 2021, 11:41:50 PM
Simply the best. I have appreciated Marv all if these years. The news kind of makes me sad.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MUfan12 on May 17, 2021, 11:20:24 AM
He's a legend but it was time. He couldn't keep up and the remote booth setup was really hard for him.

Between Marv not knowing who was on the floor and Webber being generally awful, TNT has a great opportunity to upgrade.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: cheebs09 on May 17, 2021, 11:25:15 AM
Is it possible Brian Anderson would be moving up the depth chart?

The Brewers give him a lot of flexibility, but wonder how long we will be able to keep him. I don’t know if this would raise his workload any during MLB season as he’s already doing NBA playoffs.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2021, 11:30:05 AM
Is it possible Brian Anderson would be moving up the depth chart?

The Brewers give him a lot of flexibility, but wonder how long we will be able to keep him. I don’t know if this would raise his workload any during MLB season as he’s already doing NBA playoffs.

I'd normally be pissed about losing BA but I can't watch any games on Bally's Sports so F em.

Couldn't deal with a full summer of Matt Lepay, if I do get to watch the games again.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: cheebs09 on May 17, 2021, 11:32:05 AM
I'd normally be pissed about losing BA but I can't watch any games on Bally's Sports so F em.

Couldn't deal with a full summer of Matt Lepay, if I do get to watch the games again.

Not to sidetrack this too far, but for the life of me I cannot get the Bally Sports app to work on my roku. The verification website takes me to the wrong login page. I got it to work once, but didn’t keep me signed in.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 17, 2021, 12:29:05 PM
He's a legend but it was time. He couldn't keep up and the remote booth setup was really hard for him.

Between Marv not knowing who was on the floor and Webber being generally awful, TNT has a great opportunity to upgrade.

Marv has been slipping from his own extremely high standards for a couple years now, not as sharp as he had been for some 5 decades, and I hated seeing that. Glad he decided to call it quits with his legacy firmly intact.

As a Knicks and Rangers fan when I was a kid, I grew up listening to Marv Albert on the radio. I used to love the way he described plays. Monroe wasn't just fouled, he was "run into." Bradley didn't just make a layup, "he drives and hits!" In an end-of-game inbound situation, Phil Jackson would defend the inbounder, using his long arms "to provide the windmill effect."

And of course, the signature (and oft-imitated) made-basket call in the history of the sport: "Yesss!" And if the player got hacked: "Yesss ... AND IT COUNTS! There was a foul on the play!"

And despite his familiarity with the players, Albert almost always referred to them by their last names. It was Reed and DeBusschere and Frazier, not Willis, Dave and Clyde. He obviously was calling Knicks games, but he was no homer; to this day homer announcers bother me, even if I'm a fan of the team.

I actually liked him even better for hockey, with his, "Kick save ... AND A BEAUTY!" being his most imitated line. Also an excellent football and boxing announcer once upon a time.

As Goose said, simply the best.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 17, 2021, 12:30:20 PM
"a spectacular move!" "Yes."

It's amazing how he survived the sex scandal in 1997. That wouldn't happen today.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: JWags85 on May 17, 2021, 12:45:09 PM
"a spectacular move!" "Yes."

It's amazing how he survived the sex scandal in 1997. That wouldn't happen today.

I was just thinking that.  People go down these for inappropriate statements or unwanted hugs/gropes, Albert plead guilty to multiple sexual misdemeanors (dropped from felonies i believe) and had a suspended sentence.  I remember being surprised that he returned without a hitch back then, its unthinkable now.

He's a legend but it was time. He couldn't keep up and the remote booth setup was really hard for him.

Between Marv not knowing who was on the floor and Webber being generally awful, TNT has a great opportunity to upgrade.

Agreed.  Kevin Harlan has a similar voice and is really the gold standard for the modern NBA and really eclipsed Albert.   He'd been off his game for awhile, even pre remote
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MarquetteDano on May 17, 2021, 01:20:11 PM
I think his retiring deserves this little send-off...

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/4PUjcUBXIzQYfI8iVa/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47encc5inb4ykq5523ilfpucfpoi8rusq3w9zkx3mm&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

 :P
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: BM1090 on May 17, 2021, 01:37:15 PM
Not to sidetrack this too far, but for the life of me I cannot get the Bally Sports app to work on my roku. The verification website takes me to the wrong login page. I got it to work once, but didn’t keep me signed in.

Keep trying. I had to try about 50x before it finally worked. Had more luck when I pulled up the verification on my laptop instead of my phone.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: BM1090 on May 17, 2021, 01:38:39 PM
He's a legend but it was time. He couldn't keep up and the remote booth setup was really hard for him.

Between Marv not knowing who was on the floor and Webber being generally awful, TNT has a great opportunity to upgrade.

This. Another annoyance was the amount of times he said "_______ for three" on shots four feet inside the arc.

Great announcer. But it was time.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 17, 2021, 01:52:03 PM
I was just thinking that.  People go down these for inappropriate statements or unwanted hugs/gropes, Albert plead guilty to multiple sexual misdemeanors (dropped from felonies i believe) and had a suspended sentence.  I remember being surprised that he returned without a hitch back then, its unthinkable now.

Agreed.  Kevin Harlan has a similar voice and is really the gold standard for the modern NBA and really eclipsed Albert.   He'd been off his game for awhile, even pre remote

I think the most "scandalous" revelations were the biting and wearing a garter belt. Social media would have a field day with that today.

And I do love Harlan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iExVNvrWw&t=65s). He and Mike Breen are the gold standards for NBA announcers today. Brian Anderson is excellent too and will always be a favorite in Portland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGpfXW-AuFY).
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: cheebs09 on May 17, 2021, 01:54:52 PM
I think the most "scandalous" revelations were the biting and wearing a garter belt. Social media would have a field day with that today.

And I do love Harlan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iExVNvrWw&t=65s). He and Mike Breen are the gold standards for NBA announcers today.

Harlan calling streakers on the field is amazing. Really the only bad thing I can say about him is his daughter’s poor choice in husband.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: wadesworld on May 17, 2021, 01:56:25 PM
I think the most "scandalous" revelations were the biting and wearing a garter belt. Social media would have a field day with that today.

And I do love Harlan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iExVNvrWw&t=65s). He and Mike Breen are the gold standards for NBA announcers today.

Ian Eagle >>>>>>>>>
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 17, 2021, 02:12:56 PM
I was just thinking that.  People go down these for inappropriate statements or unwanted hugs/gropes, Albert plead guilty to multiple sexual misdemeanors (dropped from felonies i believe) and had a suspended sentence.  I remember being surprised that he returned without a hitch back then, its unthinkable now.

Agreed.  Kevin Harlan has a similar voice and is really the gold standard for the modern NBA and really eclipsed Albert.   He'd been off his game for awhile, even pre remote

Marv did "survive," though IIRC he had to miss a season or two, so it's not as if he wasn't "punished."

And yes, Harlan is a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MUfan12 on May 17, 2021, 02:29:35 PM
Ian Eagle and Kevin Harlan are really good. I enjoy BA as well.

Jim Jackson is really good as an analyst. Hope he gets more pro opportunities.

Man, if they could launch Reggie now I'd do cartwheels.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 17, 2021, 04:42:06 PM
Ian Eagle and Kevin Harlan are really good. I enjoy BA as well.

Jim Jackson is really good as an analyst. Hope he gets more pro opportunities.

Man, if they could launch Reggie now I'd do cartwheels.

you have the choice of launching Reggie or Chris Webber. Which one do you choose and why Webber?
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Coleman on May 17, 2021, 04:50:33 PM
"a spectacular move!" "Yes."

It's amazing how he survived the sex scandal in 1997. That wouldn't happen today.

Not just a sex scandal.

Sexual assault.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Coleman on May 17, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
I think the most  "scandalous" revelations were the nonconsensual biting and wearing a garter belt. Social media would have a field day with that today.

And I do love Harlan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iExVNvrWw&t=65s). He and Mike Breen are the gold standards for NBA announcers today. Brian Anderson is excellent too and will always be a favorite in Portland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGpfXW-AuFY).

FIFY
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Coleman on May 17, 2021, 04:52:52 PM
Guy was amazing at what he did, no doubt.

I just think its funny the allowances we make for people who are good at their jobs or contribute to our entertainment or sense of nostalgia.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 17, 2021, 05:50:00 PM
you have the choice of launching Reggie or Chris Webber. Which one do you choose and why Webber?

Webber and Turner Sports parted ways over the weekend
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 17, 2021, 09:08:03 PM
Guy was amazing at what he did, no doubt.

I just think its funny the allowances we make for people who are good at their jobs or contribute to our entertainment or sense of nostalgia.

I obviously don’t approve of what Albert did, but many many times in this forum I have said I am a strong believer in second chances.

Albert was punished. Some might not like how he was punished, but he was. Beyond that, I have no idea if he made amends or how.

What I do know is that Marv Albert is the best sports announcer in history. And yes, I admit I’m a little nostalgic when it comes to remembering him as the voice of my teams 25 years before he was caught doing something bad.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Herman Cain on May 17, 2021, 09:31:39 PM
Marv Albert and Frank Gifford were both great announcers that hat some scandals going on as well .
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Jay Bee on May 18, 2021, 08:43:42 AM
“Albert finally agreed to the plea bargain after a second woman--a surprise witness--testified that three years ago Albert met her in a motel room wearing white panties and a garter belt. He lunged at her and then bit her, she said. The woman testified that she escaped his clutches after ripping his toupee off his head.“
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: JWags85 on May 18, 2021, 09:10:42 AM
I obviously don’t approve of what Albert did, but many many times in this forum I have said I am a strong believer in second chances.

Albert was punished. Some might not like how he was punished, but he was. Beyond that, I have no idea if he made amends or how.

What I do know is that Marv Albert is the best sports announcer in history. And yes, I admit I’m a little nostalgic when it comes to remembering him as the voice of my teams 25 years before he was caught doing something bad.

What a statement! I’d argue he wasn’t even the best in the history of the NBA, but different strokes for different folks
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: jficke13 on May 18, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
Best ever? Gotta be Ueck. Any time you get a multi-innings-long story about stealing a tuba from the national anthem band you're really working on another level.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on May 18, 2021, 09:35:01 AM
No Bob Costas love?
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 18, 2021, 09:37:15 AM
No Bob Costas love?

Ugh...no.

I think he was a decent studio host at one point, but I've never really liked him as a play by play guy.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: JWags85 on May 18, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
Ugh...no.

I think he was a decent studio host at one point, but I've never really liked him as a play by play guy.

Agreed.  I think hes very good in studio and as an interviewer, especially for stuff like the Olympics or horse racing, but PBP he's just alright.  He had an ok stretch for baseball, but otherwise he's too dry.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 18, 2021, 10:30:29 AM
Agreed.  I think hes very good in studio and as an interviewer, especially for stuff like the Olympics or horse racing, but PBP he's just alright.  He had an ok stretch for baseball, but otherwise he's too dry.

Agreed. Cotas is a fantastic interviewer...not so much on the pxp
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Coleman on May 18, 2021, 10:34:57 AM
I like Costas a lot. I think he has done a nice job with the Olympics. But I agree with other comments here. He's way better in studio/interviews.

Uecker, Vin Scully, Jack (not Joe) Buck, Cosell, Al Michaels are all in the hunt for best sportscasters of all time.

Albert may be one of the best NBA guys, but he isn't even in the conversation for best of any sport.

Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: cheebs09 on May 18, 2021, 10:52:29 AM
I’ll assume that Dickey Simpkins hasn’t been mentioned due to everyone having him as the obvious number 1. Hashtag Legend!
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: JWags85 on May 18, 2021, 11:03:47 AM
I’ll assume that Dickey Simpkins hasn’t been mentioned due to everyone having him as the obvious number 1. Hashtag Legend!

Simpkins is in a dead heat with Len Elmore for most worthless drivel from a Big East color commentator.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Herman Cain on May 18, 2021, 11:30:38 AM
I would cast my vote for ABC’s Keith Jackson as all time best announcer . Was outstanding for a long period time in many sports .
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 18, 2021, 02:39:17 PM
To the best of my knowledge, Brent Musberger is the only announcer to have his own drinking game.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/brent-musburger-announcer/#:~:text=Rule%20%232%3A%20%E2%80%9CFolks%E2%80%9D,has%20to%20finish%20their%20drink. (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/brent-musburger-announcer/#:~:text=Rule%20%232%3A%20%E2%80%9CFolks%E2%80%9D,has%20to%20finish%20their%20drink.)
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 18, 2021, 04:29:40 PM
Marv was a very good play by play man. Nowhere near the best ever, though (IMO). Maybe not the biggest perv broadcaster either, but his story (the biting, the women’s undergarments, the loss of his wig, etc.) is certainly among the most bizarre.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 18, 2021, 07:28:30 PM
Marv was a very good play by play man. Nowhere near the best ever, though (IMO). Maybe not the biggest perv broadcaster either, but his story (the biting, the women’s undergarments, the loss of his wig, etc.) is certainly among the most bizarre.

Agree about the bizarre; I remember when all of it was going on, all I could do was laugh my arse off. When fictional announcer Brockmire was on TV and was involved in the crazy stuff that made me say, "C'mon, that could never happen," I then remembered that it kind of did happen to/with Marv.

Obviously we disagree about his announcing. He was gifted, and really was peerless (IMO).
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 18, 2021, 07:53:48 PM
As I get older, I care far less about announcers.  My expectations are pretty low, however
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on May 18, 2021, 08:29:06 PM
Simpkins is in a dead heat with Len Elmore for most worthless drivel from a Big East color commentator.
Pete Gillen is way worse than either of those guys.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 18, 2021, 09:30:55 PM
As I get older, I care far less about announcers.  My expectations are pretty low, however

I’m kinda with you when it comes to good announcers. I almost don’t notice most of them.

But a bad commentator can really make it hard to watch a game with the volume on. I’ve muted Dickey Simpkins often.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Coleman on May 19, 2021, 09:23:26 AM
Gotta throw Gus Johnson in the ring
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: jficke13 on May 19, 2021, 09:24:37 AM
As I get older, I care far less about announcers.  My expectations are pretty low, however

Same, with exceptions on either extreme I just don't even notice announcers that much anymore. You've gotta be really bad or really good to get on my radar.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: MU82 on May 19, 2021, 10:37:24 AM
Same, with exceptions on either extreme I just don't even notice announcers that much anymore. You've gotta be really bad or really good to get on my radar.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say!
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Jockey on May 19, 2021, 05:25:24 PM
I'd normally be pissed about losing BA but I can't watch any games on Bally's Sports so F em.

Couldn't deal with a full summer of Matt Lepay, if I do get to watch the games again.

Lepay is the most generic, cookie-cutter guy around.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Jockey on May 19, 2021, 05:27:26 PM
Marv has been slipping from his own extremely high standards for a couple years now, not as sharp as he had been for some 5 decades, and I hated seeing that. Glad he decided to call it quits with his legacy firmly intact.




The situation with Bob Uecker in Milwaukee is the same thing.  Been slipping for years now, but still better than most.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: jficke13 on May 19, 2021, 05:56:40 PM
I find Lepay to be profoundly unremarkable. He’s fine. My aunt *loves* him to the point of *hating* Wayne Larivee simply because he got the Packers radio job instead of Lepay and I don’t get it.
Title: Re: Marv Albert retiring
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 19, 2021, 08:01:12 PM
Lepay is the most generic, cookie-cutter guy around.

This is why I find announcer opinions worthless for the most part and this isn’t a shot at you but more of a general point.  When Lepay started doing Brewers games, I hated it because he’s the voice of evil for most of the year.  Then the longer he called games for the Crew, the less I thought about it or cared or noticed.  He’s fine.  Maybe he’s bad.  Maybe he’s very good.  It doesn’t matter but to his employer