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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: pacearrow02 on May 12, 2021, 08:37:36 AM
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What a mess!! 🤞things get back online by the weekend, MU82 I saw a report that 70% of stations are completely out in the Charlotte/Raleigh area? You seeing that on the ground there?
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What a mess!! 🤞things get back online by the weekend, MU82 I saw a report that 70% of stations are completely out in the Charlotte/Raleigh area? You seeing that on the ground there?
I haven't "seen" that based on casual observations, as it appeared that all gas stations we passed the last couple days were open and pumping. There were lines at Costco yesterday, indicating they had fuel to sell.
But I have read about some gas stations in the area running out, so I have no reason to doubt that.
Thankfully, my wife and I happened to fill up our cars last week, and hers is a hybrid that gets almost 50 mpg. So hopefully things will get back on line before we (and our fellow Carolinians) are in need.
EDIT: Just saw this article, also saying that majority of Charlotte stations out of gas, and providing an interactive "gas-tracker": https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article251348868.html?
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Things seem fine here in the midwest. Prices have gone up maybe 10 cents but that's about it.
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I was speaking with someone yesterday. They have a friend who is on vacation in Myrtle Beach and teh friend had to drive an hour from Myrtle Beach to find a station that had gas available.
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We had a single station that ran out of gas. People are freaking out, even though that is an everyday occurrence where a gas station cuts it close on refilling their tanks. They were back in business within hours.
Oh the horror!
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Vaccine hunters turning into gas hunters.
Man, we’ve had a crazy 17 months.
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Majority of stations near us are out. Those that have fuel have lines of literally dozens of cars waiting. Luckily, my wife's car is nearly full and I have half a tank which based on how little I've been driving these days, could last me a couple of weeks.
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How much of this is attributable to actual shortages vs. people hoarding?
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Plenty down here in Texas!
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Sleepy Joe thinks he's living in the Carter Administration.
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Sleepy Joe thinks he's living in the Carter Administration.
Yes. A pipeline company not having proper security on their system is Biden's fault.
Sigh.
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Yes. A pipeline company not having proper security on their system is Biden's fault.
Sigh.
It is just as much as a once in a lifetime pandemic was the fault of Don. No one is blaming Joe for the attack, the response of his administration has been lackluster.
Throw it on top of the rising gas prices because of his energy policies, the mess in the Middle East, higher then expected inflation, southern border chaos only getting worse, dismal job numbers and its been a helluva first 3 months for the guy. But on the bright side....no mean tweets!!!
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Yes. A pipeline company not having proper security on their system is Biden's fault.
Sigh.
Whooosh
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Yes. A pipeline company not having proper security on their system is Biden's fault.
Sigh.
Hook line and sinker.
How long until a car explodes from people recklessly transporting gas in plastic bags and buckets in the back of their car?
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This is more akin to the toilet paper "shortage."
No actual shortage of product, just a bunch of dummies running on the gas stations in a panic.
Whooosh
There are 4 o's in Woooosh.
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This is more akin to the toilet paper "shortage."
No actual shortage of product, just a bunch of dummies running on the gas stations in a panic.
That's exactly what this is. A cyber attack is merely dangerous. But the stupidity of the public is catastrophic.
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I see politics are allowed here again. Yippee!
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I see politics are allowed here again. Yippee!
Haha, guilty 😳🤦♂️
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Finally time to get my BEV
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What a mess!! 🤞things get back online by the weekend, MU82 I saw a report that 70% of stations are completely out in the Charlotte/Raleigh area? You seeing that on the ground there?
$hit's already back up and running. Weak-willed and panicky is no way to go through life.
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This just in from the NYT:
The operator of Colonial Pipeline said on Wednesday that it had started to resume pipeline operations.
“It will take several days for the product delivery supply chain to return to normal,” the company said on its website. “Some markets served by Colonial Pipeline may experience, or continue to experience, intermittent service interruptions during the start-up period.”
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We went to our local Costco today to shop, not get gas. They had gas, they had a quite reasonable price ($2.57), and they were extremely organized in the way they dealt with the lines. They had one entrance to the parking lot blocked off and wound the cars past it to keep them from interfering with the shoppers who weren't looking for gas and went in at the other entrance, and they had an employee at the entrance to make sure everybody went the right direction to either shop or get gas.
Glad to hear that it looks like all of this will be in the rearview mirror soon.
Now, y'all are free to go back to talkin' politics again. I am outraged by it, as it's something I would never do!
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$hit's already back up and running. Weak-willed and panicky is no way to go through life.
Weak willed and panicky but keeping fingers crossed things get resolved asap?
Strange take.
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What should we make of the FoxNews story that the hackers were paid $4-5 mlll in cryptocurrency to resume service?
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What should we make of the FoxNews story that the hackers were paid $4-5 mlll in cryptocurrency to resume service?
Given that Bloomberg's reporting it id say every blind squirrel finds a nut. Of course Fox's version probably blames Biden for it.
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One station near me required a minimum purchase of $40. Not sure what the thought process was. Maybe to keep people from coming back to fill up their lawnmower 2 gallon containers. Maybe requiring cars to be running on fumes before letting them fill up.
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What should we make of the FoxNews story that the hackers were paid $4-5 mlll in cryptocurrency to resume service?
I would guess its accurate. From what I understand, in many of these cases, it's often just easier to pay the hackers.
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It is just as much as a once in a lifetime pandemic was the fault of Don. No one is blaming Joe for the attack, the response of his administration has been lackluster.
Throw it on top of the rising gas prices because of his energy policies, the mess in the Middle East, higher then expected inflation, southern border chaos only getting worse, dismal job numbers and its been a helluva first 3 months for the guy. But on the bright side....no mean tweets!!!
Sooo close to hitting all the Fox News talking points. You forgot to add that the national debt now is a major concern for the first time in 4 years.
But I'll give it a B+ for effort.
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One station near me required a minimum purchase of $40. Not sure what the thought process was. Maybe to keep people from coming back to fill up their lawnmower 2 gallon containers. Maybe requiring cars to be running on fumes before letting them fill up.
That's a very big plastic bag.
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That's a very big plastic bag.
Standard kitchen garbage bag.
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I would guess its accurate. From what I understand, in many of these cases, it's often just easier to pay the hackers.
Makes one wonder what the Disaster Recovery and backup protocols were for the company.
At the company that I worked at, I was part of the Recovery team and there were very strict and time sensitive procedures to follow to get the company up and running ASAP - especially assuming a catastrophic failure as was the case at the pipeline.
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Makes one wonder what the Disaster Recovery and backup protocols were for the company.
At the company that I worked at, I was part of the Recovery team and there were very strict and time sensitive procedures to follow to get the company up and running ASAP - especially assuming a catastrophic failure as was the case at the pipeline.
Man I'm pretty technical and I don't know anything about backup/recovery for controller software and firmware. I'd imagine at least some of it would have to be on-site... but I doubt they ever release the details of what compromised exactly.
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That's a very big plastic bag.
Have there been any actual reports of people in the US filling up plastic bags? The widely circulated photo is actually from 2019, was taken in Mexico, and is not gasoline but rather Huachicol, a ridiculously potent Mexican alcoholic beverage (their moonshine, it seems).
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Sooo close to hitting all the Fox News talking points. You forgot to add that the national debt now is a major concern for the first time in 4 years.
But I'll give it a B+ for effort.
Thank you! You can call them Fox talking points but are you also arguing they aren’t true?
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Have there been any actual reports of people in the US filling up plastic bags? The widely circulated photo is actually from 2019, was taken in Mexico, and is not gasoline but rather Huachicol, a ridiculously potent Mexican alcoholic beverage (their moonshine, it seems).
There are Krogers in Mexico?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYElBwJIZ4&t=8s
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Man I'm pretty technical and I don't know anything about backup/recovery for controller software and firmware. I'd imagine at least some of it would have to be on-site... but I doubt they ever release the details of what compromised exactly.
If it reached the firmware level - you are correct. Colonial Pipeline only said the ransomware attack affected some of its IT systems.
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Thank you! You can call them Fox talking points but are you also arguing they aren’t true?
The mess in the Middle East began about a millennium ago or so. Most Americans are too dense to understand the history of the Middle East, so I’m not surprised you don’t.
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Thank you! You can call them Fox talking points but are you also arguing they aren’t true?
Rising gas prices are overwhelmingly the result of the economy's reopening and OPEC cutting production, not domestic energy policy.
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Sooo close to hitting all the Fox News talking points. You forgot to add that the national debt now is a major concern for the first time in 4 years.
But I'll give it a B+ for effort.
Funny how lefties know more about "Fox talking points" than most on the right. :o :o
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There are Krogers in Mexico?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYElBwJIZ4&t=8s
Perhaps I'm just hoping to place more faith in my fellow citizens than they deserve, but I do note that the video picks up after the bag is already full of...something. I've seen another picture (admittedly of speculative authenticity) showing sealed bags filled with liquid in a car trunk. Again, very difficult to really know what is in those bags. But at least those were bags that seemed watertight and sealed. I just have a very, very difficult time believing that anyone would try to put gas in a plastic grocery bag. I'm skeptical, but who knows...
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Funny how lefties know more about "Fox talking points" than most on the right. :o :o
It's pretty easy to pick them out. You don't have to watch Fox News to know. Just takes a basic level of intelligence and common sense. So I guess you're right, most on the right lack those two things.
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Funny how lefties know more about "Fox talking points" than most on the right. :o :o
Did you get their talking point today? The shortage of Chik-Fil-A sauce is Biden’s fault.
We pay attention so we can laugh.
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Funny how lefties know more about "Fox talking points" than most on the right. :o :o
By now, our bullsh!t meters are pretty well tuned Lord knows they get enough practice.
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Perhaps I'm just hoping to place more faith in my fellow citizens than they deserve, but I do note that the video picks up after the bag is already full of...something. I've seen another picture (admittedly of speculative authenticity) showing sealed bags filled with liquid in a car trunk. Again, very difficult to really know what is in those bags. But at least those were bags that seemed watertight and sealed. I just have a very, very difficult time believing that anyone would try to put gas in a plastic grocery bag. I'm skeptical, but who knows...
I suppose it's possible she arrived at the gas pumps with bags full of some other liquid, took them out of her vehicle and then put them back into her vehicle ... but God knows what or why that would be.
Occam's razor said she filled those bags with gas.
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There are Krogers in Mexico?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYElBwJIZ4&t=8s
This is the image that has been circulated. I had not seen that video but it turns out that is also from 2019: https://www.newsweek.com/video-woman-trying-put-gas-plastic-bag-millions-views-2019-1590925
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I suppose it's possible she arrived at the gas pumps with bags full of some other liquid, took them out of her vehicle and then put them back into her vehicle ... but God knows what or why that would be.
Occam's razor said she filled those bags with gas.
Actually, I've come to the point where I think that Occam's razor often suggests that videos online are faked. I'm not saying that one is, but I've become very skeptical of videos online in general and even more skeptical of ones that either pick up or cut out just after or before key points. People post fake videos of stupid stuff all the time.
That said, I kind of think this one was real.
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It's pretty easy to pick them out. You don't have to watch Fox News to know. Just takes a basic level of intelligence and common sense. So I guess you're right, most on the right lack those two things.
The narrative that *most* conservatives lack common sense and intelligence (with respect to liberals) is overplayed and patently false. The reality is that *most* Americans, regardless of political affiliation, lack both of those qualities.
As a generalization, not aimed at you, people who are emotionally overinvested in politics should do something more useful with their time, such as volunteer in their communities, if they really want to spark some change. Griping about Donald Trump and Joe Biden (or the people who voted for them) adds nothing of any value.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/hummer-containing-4-containers-of-gasoline-catches-fire-after-leaving-florida-gas-station/ar-BB1gHEQ5
Florida man gotta Florida man.
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There are Krogers in Mexico?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHYElBwJIZ4&t=8s
I thought they only had Sanborns?
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Good article on Darkside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/05/12/the-colonial-pipeline-hackers-are-one-of-the-savviest-criminal-startups-in-a-370-million-ransomware-game/?sh=310071437595
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Actually, I've come to the point where I think that Occam's razor often suggests that videos online are faked. I'm not saying that one is, but I've become very skeptical of videos online in general and even more skeptical of ones that either pick up or cut out just after or before key points. People post fake videos of stupid stuff all the time.
That said, I kind of think this one was real.
It's two years old and as a hurricane was bearing down on Houston, but yeah, it was real.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/hummer-containing-4-containers-of-gasoline-catches-fire-after-leaving-florida-gas-station/ar-BB1gHEQ5
Florida man gotta Florida man.
I’ll see your hummer and raise you a Tesla.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpd809H7Fw0
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What should we make of the FoxNews story that the hackers were paid $4-5 mlll in cryptocurrency to resume service?
when a reporter asked the sleepy one about the ransom($5 million) paid to the hackers...pause...pause...huh...pause...yawn...helloooo...
"i have no comment on that"
russiarussiarussia
he does realize that this affected approximately 25-30% of this country right? ahhh, dumb question...nap time
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when a reporter asked the sleepy one about the ransom($5 million) paid to the hackers...pause...pause...huh...pause...yawn...helloooo...
"i have no comment on that"
russiarussiarussia
he does realize that this affected approximately 25-30% of this country right? ahhh, dumb question...nap time
What?
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What?
Rank, in order of magnitude and liklihood of driving this once fine democracy to its knees, the following atrocities:
* Wearing a tan suit
* Asking for Dijon mustard
* Pausing before answering "no comment"
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when a reporter asked the sleepy one about the ransom($5 million) paid to the hackers...pause...pause...huh...pause...yawn...helloooo...
"i have no comment on that"
russiarussiarussia
he does realize that this affected approximately 25-30% of this country right? ahhh, dumb question...nap time
The effect on the country that was so bad that I was able to pull into any gas station I chose today and fill my tank without waiting in line? The horror.
Moron
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The effect on the country that was so bad that I was able to pull into any gas station I chose today and fill my tank without waiting in line? The horror.
Moron
no need for the name calling sweetie...82 must not be on that side of the RR tracks...privilege?
https://www.fox46.com/news/local-news/over-70-of-charlotte-gas-stations-out-of-fuel-as-pipeline-shutdown-continues-into-day-5/
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no need for the name calling sweetie...82 must not be on that side of the RR tracks...privilege?
https://www.fox46.com/news/local-news/over-70-of-charlotte-gas-stations-out-of-fuel-as-pipeline-shutdown-continues-into-day-5/
Well damn. I must’ve missed the giant jump in North Carolina’s population recently.
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no need for the name calling sweetie...82 must not be on that side of the RR tracks...privilege?
https://www.fox46.com/news/local-news/over-70-of-charlotte-gas-stations-out-of-fuel-as-pipeline-shutdown-continues-into-day-5/
1. this is old news.
2. we drove our hybrid (which still has 500 miles in the tank) across town today, and we passed at least a half-dozen gas stations that were pumping. on all sides of all tracks. but yes, some still were not pumping.
3. clearly biden's fault.
4. within a few days, when gas stations everywhere will be operating at full capacity, i guess biden will deserve full credit for that.
5. you have very bad BDS. tens of millions of Americans, however, do not, as biden's approval rating is higher than your lord and master's ever was.
6. don't you have another lifelong conservative congressperson you need to cancel because he or she, unlike you, refuses to bend the knee?
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"5. you have very bad BDS. tens of millions of Americans, however, do not, as biden's approval rating is higher than your lord and master's ever was."
umm, yeah, saddam, chavez, putin, and castro never lost an election either eyn'a? pravda tends to be a little biased
oh, and old news backatcha
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"5. you have very bad BDS. tens of millions of Americans, however, do not, as biden's approval rating is higher than your lord and master's ever was."
umm, yeah, saddam, chavez, putin, and castro never lost an election either eyn'a? pravda tends to be a little biased
oh, and old news backatcha
Unhinged.
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All of you participating in this disappoint me.