As of the time of this post there have been 3.3 millions deaths in the US in 2020. I think we are still getting adjustments.
The Census Bureau expected 2.75 million. So that is 550,000 more deaths than expected just in 2020.
For those who believe that the deaths number is inflated for COVID I presume we do not trust the Census Bureau number of expected deaths for 2020? Do we find the Census Bureau often under/over estimates the number of deaths in a given year?
I am pretty sure the 1st answer is - "They are overcounting to promote hysteria"
When confronted with the numbers it shifts to "This is unavoidable why are you making a big deal and causing hysteria"
Did I do that right?
Followed by 'they're lying to make Trump look bad.'
Missed the intermediate argument that they are all suicides due to lockdown.
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2021/12/22/covid-deaths-obscured-inaccurate-death-certificates/8899157002/
It is estimated that Covid deaths have been undercounted by as much as 20%.
Quote from: tower912 on April 22, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
Followed by 'they're lying to make Trump look bad.'
Thanks MU82
The nicest thing anyone is likely to say to me today. Thanks.
Quote from: tower912 on December 23, 2021, 08:40:30 AM
The nicest thing anyone is likely to say to me today. Thanks.
It is Festivus, after all.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/massachusetts-reports-significant-overcount-of-covid-deaths/2665981/%3famp
Good news!!
Quote from: pacearrow02 on March 11, 2022, 11:37:17 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/massachusetts-reports-significant-overcount-of-covid-deaths/2665981/%3famp
Good news!!
With this adjustment, only 20,000 people in Massachusetts died from COVID.
Good news? That's GREAT news!
How should we celebrate the deaths of 20,000 people?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2022, 02:07:56 PM
With this adjustment, only 20,000 people in Massachusetts died from COVID.
Good news? That's GREAT news!
How should we celebrate the deaths of 20,000 people?
The people they have decided didn't die from covid as the cause are still dead though, right?
What are we celebrating here?
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 11, 2022, 02:46:53 PM
The people they have decided didn't die from covid as the cause are still dead though, right?
What are we celebrating here?
Same reaction. It is news. Why good? Glad there was correction to inaccuracies maybe but don't sense that was the intent of the post.
Wastewater plants show an uptick in covid poop. So... take that for what it is.
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBSaphierMD/status/1504419658136440833
CDC=trash
Quote from: pacearrow02 on March 17, 2022, 08:38:28 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBSaphierMD/status/1504419658136440833
CDC=trash
Yay, only 1300 children died...
Imagine celebrating 1,300 kids dying as an "aha! Gotcha!".
Quote from: ZaLiN on March 21, 2022, 09:35:07 PM
Imagine celebrating 1,300 kids dying as an "aha! Gotcha!".
Ya, cause that's what I said.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 22, 2021, 08:32:19 AM
As of the time of this post there have been 3.3 millions deaths in the US in 2020. I think we are still getting adjustments.
The Census Bureau expected 2.75 million. So that is 550,000 more deaths than expected just in 2020.
For those who believe that the deaths number is inflated for COVID I presume we do not trust the Census Bureau number of expected deaths for 2020? Do we find the Census Bureau often under/over estimates the number of deaths in a given year?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/health/alcohol-deaths-covid.html
Do you know if there is more broken down data for cause of death estimates the CDC had for 2020? I think the only way to get an answer to your question is to break it down and see what was expected for more specific reasons and what was realized to get a better understanding if Covid deaths were missed or not.
Quote from: pacearrow02 on March 24, 2022, 12:10:55 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/health/alcohol-deaths-covid.html
Do you know if there is more broken down data for cause of death estimates the CDC had for 2020? I think the only way to get an answer to your question is to break it down and see what was expected for more specific reasons and what was realized to get a better understanding if Covid deaths were missed or not.
The CDC has excess death calculations, tracked before covid:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm