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Title: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 31, 2021, 12:40:53 AM
Havoc-style defenses are predicated upon having many highly athletic, mobile/agile defenders with length and reach. However, The "Mad Man" in any given five-man rotation almost invariably has the best vertical leap and highest hands for inbounds-pass and regular pass deflections, the best motor and lateral quickness to apply the most pressure and cover the most space of the floor after the inbounds, and often has the biggest wingspan of any player on the floor at one time.

Who, based upon our current roster best fits or is most likely to fit this Alpha role as "Mad Man" ??
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 31, 2021, 01:26:46 AM
Also, a corollary question to go along with this Havoc-specific subject...

We all remember Buzz's BootCamp. A Buzz-coached team almost never ran out of gas, even when we were woefully short-handed. Ok, maybe that @Louisville game where we crapped away a huge lead late.

Any thoughts on Shaka's means for pre-season conditioning...given the extraordinary amount of energy, focus, and stamina necessary to run a defense which even marginally uses Havoc-style principles?

Given his pressing style, does Shaka's pre-season conditioning regimen naturally focus more on producing speed, stamina, and endurance rather than strength?
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: warriorchick on March 31, 2021, 01:35:50 AM
Don Draper.

And lay off the hooch.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 31, 2021, 01:48:21 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 31, 2021, 01:35:50 AM
Don Draper.

And lay off the hooch.

I've never met Midge Daniels.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: The Lens on March 31, 2021, 01:50:19 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 31, 2021, 01:35:50 AM
Don Draper.

And lay off the hooch.

Settle down Peggy

I for one can remember all the times Wojo had MU run hills at St. Mary's.   Oh wait, no I can't.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
You only remember one buzz game where we crapped a massive lead? Buzz's team rams out of gass more than just once.

Off the top of my head:

Florida St, Washington, Vanderbilt, and Louisville. I know there's others because those are only my freshman and sophomore year memories.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2021, 08:33:08 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
You only remember one buzz game where we crapped a massive lead? Buzz's team rams out of grass more than just once.

Off the top of my head:

Florida St, Washington, Vanderbilt, and Louisville. I know there's others because those are only my freshman and sophomore year memories.

I guess the rams just needed more grass!

If having plenty of grass were all it took, I knew quite a few guys who would have been superstars back in my college daze!

Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on March 31, 2021, 12:40:53 AM
Who, based upon our current roster best fits or is most likely to fit this Alpha role as "Mad Man" ??

On our roster, probably Akanno. Which tells us how much recruitin' Shaka needs to do.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: willie warrior on March 31, 2021, 08:38:14 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
You only remember one buzz game where we crapped a massive lead? Buzz's team rams out of grass more than just once.

Off the top of my head:

Florida St, Washington, Vanderbilt, and Louisville. I know there's others because those are only my freshman and sophomore year memories.
Ah yes.....The Louisville Meltdown.....Buzz Williams at his finest
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2021, 08:33:08 AM
I guess the rams just needed more grass!

If having plenty of grass were all it took, I knew quite a few guys who would have been superstars back in my college daze!

On our roster, probably Akanno. Which tells us how much recruitin' Shaka needs to do.

I always figured that was Mcneal's secret
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Skatastrophy on March 31, 2021, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
I always figured that was Mcneal's secret

And Acker. I think it's funny that a few peeps suggested that McSteal come back to coach.

1. McNeal and Acker are a package deal, might as well get them both
2. WI hasn't legalized yet
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 09:00:11 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 31, 2021, 08:57:49 AM
And Acker. I think it's funny that a few peeps suggested that McSteal come back to coach.

1. McNeal and Acker are a package deal, might as well get them both
2. WI hasn't legalized yet

So were back to the commute from Chicago conversation?
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: vogue65 on March 31, 2021, 09:04:48 AM
I thought these were elite young college athletes who never ran out of gas.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: vogue65 on March 31, 2021, 09:04:48 AM
I thought these were elite young college athletes who never ran out of gas.

In a single game is different than comparing 3 days rest vs a week rest.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2021, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
You only remember one buzz game where we crapped a massive lead? Buzz's team rams out of gass more than just once.

Off the top of my head:

Florida St, Washington, Vanderbilt, and Louisville. I know there's others because those are only my freshman and sophomore year memories.

Yeah, but you're not factoring in the height disparities of his teams.  He often had the smallest team on the court which means you have to work harder to compensate for the lack of height up front. 
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Pakuni on March 31, 2021, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
You only remember one buzz game where we crapped a massive lead? Buzz's team rams out of gass more than just once.

Off the top of my head:

Florida St, Washington, Vanderbilt, and Louisville. I know there's others because those are only my freshman and sophomore year memories.

Blowing a 13-point second half lead vs Washington in the 2010 tournament was brutal.

As for HAVOC  ... Shaka hasn't run that defense in years. I don't expect we'll see it next season either.
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: Newsdreams on March 31, 2021, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 31, 2021, 11:21:45 AM
Yeah, but you're not factoring in the height disparities of his teams.  He often had the smallest team on the court which means you have to work harder to compensate for the lack of height up front.
Buzz slurper
Title: Re: most likely MAD MEN in Shaka’s first MU defense?
Post by: mug644 on March 31, 2021, 01:00:25 PM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 09:00:11 AM
So were back to the commute from Chicago conversation?

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