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Title: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 10:46:22 AM
Both underachieved and both teams were completely outhustled.

In fact, I don't know if I've seen a lazier group than Shaka's team this year
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: SWARM! on March 26, 2021, 10:47:39 AM
LOL.

They don't belong in the same sentence.  Period. 
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: Tha Hound on March 26, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
As someone who was not convinced by Shaka on first look, I'd recommend doing some research on his teams, then come back and see if you want to keep polluting the board with the same sentiment that has been shares in multiple threads on the first page.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 26, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
Who had the under on time it took until someone complained?
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2021, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 10:46:22 AM
Both underachieved and both teams were completely outhustled.

In fact, I don't know if I've seen a lazier group than Shaka's team this year

Would you say the same about Tony Bennett's team that lost to UMBC?  Holtman's team that lost to ORU? 
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 26, 2021, 10:51:41 AM
Quote from: Tha Hound on March 26, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
As someone who was not convinced by Shaka on first look, I'd recommend doing some research on his teams, then come back and see if you want to keep polluting the board with the same sentiment that has been shares in multiple threads on the first page.

I mean, there's certainly some concerns about this year's Texas squad. Sure they're overall top 30 in Adj. O/Adj. D effeciency. But their offensive TO rate is really bad and don't really force TOs on D. FTR is pretty medicore as well.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: MUDPT on March 26, 2021, 10:53:59 AM
Shaka NCAA +/- at the end of regulation -4.

Wojo at the end of regulation:
-39.

Huge difference.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: avid1010 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:03 AM
NCAA appearances in 8 of his 11 years as coach...with a FF?
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 10:46:22 AM
Both underachieved and both teams were completely outhustled.

In fact, I don't know if I've seen a lazier group than Shaka's team this year

What's the difference?

Wojo lost by 19 and 20 (39 combined) points in his two NCAA appearances. His team competed for awhile with SC but was overwhelmed down the stretch and was blasted out of the gates by Murray State. They were simply unprepared and outclassed in both games.

In Shaka's last 5 NCAA appearances, he lost by 2 (OT), 3 (OT), 3, 4 (OT), and 1 (13 combined). The 3 was a half-court buzzer beater and the 1 was FTs with 1 second left. Shaka was in every one of those games and the bounces went against him. If those games go the other way, Shaka doesn't take our call and we don't have a shot at him.

I'm also curious if you watched them in more than the ACU game, because I saw them a number of times and (even in the 'Nova loss) they generally looked pretty darn good.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: MU82 on March 26, 2021, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: Tha Hound on March 26, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
As someone who was not convinced by Shaka on first look, I'd recommend doing some research on his teams, then come back and see if you want to keep polluting the board with the same sentiment that has been shares in multiple threads on the first page.

You and I were similarly skeptical, Hound. And now we're similarly supportive of our new coach.

We Are Marquette!
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 26, 2021, 11:01:56 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:22 AM
What's the difference?

Wojo lost by 19 and 20 (39 combined) points in his two NCAA appearances. His team competed for awhile with SC but was overwhelmed down the stretch and was blasted out of the gates by Murray State. They were simply unprepared and outclassed in both games.

In Shaka's last 5 NCAA appearances, he lost by 2 (OT), 3 (OT), 3, 4 (OT), and 1 (13 combined). The 3 was a half-court buzzer beater and the 1 was FTs with 1 second left. Shaka was in every one of those games and the bounces went against him. If those games go the other way, Shaka doesn't take our call and we don't have a shot at him.

I'm also curious if you watched them in more than the ACU game, because I saw them a number of times and (even in the 'Nova loss) they generally looked pretty darn good.

Good info, Brew.  Thanks for sparing me having to look that up in response.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: YaBlueIt on March 26, 2021, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:22 AM
What's the difference?

Wojo lost by 19 and 20 (39 combined) points in his two NCAA appearances. His team competed for awhile with SC but was overwhelmed down the stretch and was blasted out of the gates by Murray State. They were simply unprepared and outclassed in both games.

In Shaka's last 5 NCAA appearances, he lost by 2 (OT), 3 (OT), 3, 4 (OT), and 1 (13 combined). The 3 was a half-court buzzer beater and the 1 was FTs with 1 second left. Shaka was in every one of those games and the bounces went against him. If those games go the other way, Shaka doesn't take our call and we don't have a shot at him.

I'm also curious if you watched them in more than the ACU game, because I saw them a number of times and (even in the 'Nova loss) they generally looked pretty darn good.

I feel better already, good stuff
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: naginiF on March 26, 2021, 11:05:20 AM
Quote from: ChitownMoser on March 26, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
Who had the under on time it took until someone complained?
Said this in another thread but wait til you see the threads after Moser wins tomorrow, or Monday, or any game next season, or is comfortably #1 in the MVC and MU is on the bubble next year.

The woulda, shoulda, coulda club is going to look for every opportunity to cast shadow
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: tower912 on March 26, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
Who will be the first to throw out the Shaka-slurper line And at whom?
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:22 AM
What's the difference?

Wojo lost by 19 and 20 (39 combined) points in his two NCAA appearances. His team competed for awhile with SC but was overwhelmed down the stretch and was blasted out of the gates by Murray State. They were simply unprepared and outclassed in both games.

In Shaka's last 5 NCAA appearances, he lost by 2 (OT), 3 (OT), 3, 4 (OT), and 1 (13 combined). The 3 was a half-court buzzer beater and the 1 was FTs with 1 second left. Shaka was in every one of those games and the bounces went against him. If those games go the other way, Shaka doesn't take our call and we don't have a shot at him.

I'm also curious if you watched them in more than the ACU game, because I saw them a number of times and (even in the 'Nova loss) they generally looked pretty darn good.

I'm just not a big believer in "luck" or "bad bounces" in basketball. 

And you may want to try and ignore the ACU game, but Shaka's team's lack of hustle was noted by the announcers multiple times.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 26, 2021, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: ChitownMoser on March 26, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
Who had the under on time it took until someone complained?

I think I made the joke that if we hire shaka, we're in good shape because we already have a projo/nojo contingent for him.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: JWags85 on March 26, 2021, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:22 AM
I'm also curious if you watched them in more than the ACU game, because I saw them a number of times and (even in the 'Nova loss) they generally looked pretty darn good.

They had 7 Top 25 wins this year.  They were really tough in a lot of big games
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: MUDPT on March 26, 2021, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 11:06:53 AM
I'm just not a big believer in "luck" or "bad bounces" in basketball. 

And you may want to try and ignore the ACU game, but Shaka's team's lack of hustle was noted by the announcers multiple times.

Sure they "lacked hustle" achieving a higher pomeroy and seed then Wojo ever did this season and also "lacked hustle" when they won the conference tournament in the 2nd hardest conference in the country this year as well.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 26, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on March 26, 2021, 11:08:36 AM
They had 7 Top 25 wins this year.  They were really tough in a lot of big games

including a 30 pt blowout of Kansas at the Phog.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:12:32 AM
tower


I am in the slurper club. I am going to slurp all the way to the FF with Shaka and the boys.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on March 26, 2021, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: tower912 on March 26, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
Who will be the first to throw out the Shaka-slurper line And at whom?
Willie.

At you.
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: muwarrior97 on March 26, 2021, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2021, 10:54:22 AM
What's the difference?

Wojo lost by 19 and 20 (39 combined) points in his two NCAA appearances. His team competed for awhile with SC but was overwhelmed down the stretch and was blasted out of the gates by Murray State. They were simply unprepared and outclassed in both games.

In Shaka's last 5 NCAA appearances, he lost by 2 (OT), 3 (OT), 3, 4 (OT), and 1 (13 combined). The 3 was a half-court buzzer beater and the 1 was FTs with 1 second left. Shaka was in every one of those games and the bounces went against him. If those games go the other way, Shaka doesn't take our call and we don't have a shot at him.

I'm also curious if you watched them in more than the ACU game, because I saw them a number of times and (even in the 'Nova loss) they generally looked pretty darn good.

Great stuff as always Brew!

Let's go, Team Havoc 2.0
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 11:41:21 AM
Quote from: JWags85 on March 26, 2021, 11:08:36 AM
They had 7 Top 25 wins this year.  They were really tough in a lot of big games

Weren't very tough in the biggest game, though, were they?
Title: Re: So what's the difference between Shaka's NCAA appearances and Wojo's?
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on March 26, 2021, 11:42:24 AM
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:12:32 AM
tower


I am in the slurper club. I am going to slurp all the way to the FF with Shaka and the boys.

Goose, I would love to join you but I've been a "Nojo" for so long I think I've forgotten how to slurp...

Does anyone know if there's a support group for this?
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