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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: warriorfred on March 20, 2021, 01:48:17 PM
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Kind of neat to see a number of long-time posters return to MUSCOOP. It gives me hope for Marquette Basketball and the renewed interest of alumni and fans.
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Kind of neat to see a number of long-time posters return to MUSCOOP. It gives me hope for Marquette Basketball and the renewed interest of alumni and fans.
LOL
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There was excitement this season, you guys just missed it.
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I am the bearer of bad news. Al McGuire is not going to be coaching next fall. The glory days of the ‘60’s & the ‘70’s are not retuning.
There may be a better coach waiting in the wings. I certainly hope so.
At the same time there may be a few players who decide to transfer or not to come to Marquette.
Firing Wojo was most likely the correct path to take. It remains to be seen how positive this change will actually be...
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I am the bearer of bad news. Al McGuire is not going to be coaching next fall. The glory days of the ‘60’s & the ‘70’s are not retuning.
There may be a better coach waiting in the wings. I certainly hope so.
At the same time there may be a few players who decide to transfer or not to come to Marquette.
Firing Wojo was most likely the correct path to take. It remains to be seen how positive this change will actually be...
Thanks Debby Downer....
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I started following Marquette during the Dukiet era and lived the O'Neill era (all praise to him).
Wojo was Dukiet 2.0 and you could feel it. I do not begrudge the apathy of alumni and fans the past few years.
A weight has been lifted and I look forward to a new era with hope and optimism.
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I am the bearer of bad news. Al McGuire is not going to be coaching next fall. The glory days of the ‘60’s & the ‘70’s are not retuning.
There may be a better coach waiting in the wings. I certainly hope so.
At the same time there may be a few players who decide to transfer or not to come to Marquette.
Firing Wojo was most likely the correct path to take. It remains to be seen how positive this change will actually be...
Bold call
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Bold call
I was promised Hologram Al would solve all problems.
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I understand the concern. There is always some anxiety toward the unknown. Those with that anxiety of the unknown just have to ask themselves if they were happy with what was known, i.e. the product of the last 7 years? Because not making this change was likely going to lead you to more of the same. I would rather go through life being anxious about what could happen rather than being calm and disappointed.
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There was excitement this season, you guys just missed it.
Now that Wojo’s gone, I’m guessing they won’t be retiring 0 anytime soon, aina?
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Now that Wojo’s gone, I’m guessing they won’t be retiring 0 anytime soon, aina?
Why? He meets all the criteria and more. Great ambassador to the university. More deserving then names up there already.
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Why? He meets all the criteria and more. Great ambassador to the university. More deserving then names up there already.
Hang the Wojo banner next to the Dukiet banner.
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Hang the Wojo banner next to the Dukiet banner.
Your post has nothing to do with mine. What’s the point?
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Miscue and sincere apologies.
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I started following Marquette during the Dukiet era and lived the O'Neill era (all praise to him).
Wojo was Dukiet 2.0 and you could feel it. I do not begrudge the apathy of alumni and fans the past few years.
A weight has been lifted and I look forward to a new era with hope and optimism.
Agree. Not to mention no permanent AD and a brand new President at the time who literally rubber stamped the deal.
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Now that Wojo’s gone, I’m guessing they won’t be retiring 0 anytime soon, aina?
Why? Did he score too many points and represent the university with too much class for you?
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Agree. Not to mention no permanent AD and a brand new President at the time who literally rubber stamped the deal.
I kind of wondered how it all happened? From the outside it seemed like an odd hire given that Duke assistants have a generally poor record as head coaches, and if Wojo was a raging success he would go back to Duke to replace Coach K. There was not much long-term upside for the program.
I would very much like to see an established head coach as the next hire. I remain hopeful.
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Why? Did he score too many points and represent the university with too much class for you?
What is it they say about players who get coaches fired?
Howard is the walking embodiment of the Wojo era.
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What is it they say about players who get coaches fired?
Howard is the walking embodiment of the Wojo era.
Imagine being such a tool that you hold animosity towards one of the most talented players in school history, who was of only 2 1st team AA from Marquette in the last 40 years, and an all around fantastic kid because you didn’t like his coach who had no clue what to do with him
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What is it they say about players who get coaches fired?
Well, the Howard I'm thinking of got his coach to the NCAA tournament 3 times in 4 years (counting last season).
Please let me know which Howard was on this year's team, the one that got his coach fired.
Are you actually suggesting that a player who wasn't even here this season got his coach fired? Is that what you're going with?
Your weird hatred of our school's all-time leading scorer is destructive for you. Please seek help.
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Why? He meets all the criteria and more. Great ambassador to the university. More deserving then names up there already.
Really, like who?
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Really, like who?
Doc.
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Imagine being such a tool that you hold animosity towards one of the most talented players in school history, who was of only 2 1st team AA from Marquette in the last 40 years, and an all around fantastic kid because you didn’t like his coach who had no clue what to do with him
It’s OK to admit I was right.
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You're right that a player who wasn't on this year's team got Wojo fired?
I guess it was Markus' fault that VCU got COVID-19 canceled, too.'
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You're right that a player who wasn't on this year's team got Wojo fired?
I guess it was Markus' fault that VCU got COVID-19 canceled, too.'
Woah woah woah - I thought admins didn’t make decisions on one game or one season? Inherently, players from seasons prior to last season would be relevant to his current job status. Or was this more smoke out your a$$?
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Woah woah woah - I thought admins didn’t make decisions on one game or one season? Inherently, players from seasons prior to last season would be relevant to his current job status. Or was this more smoke out your a$$?
What a condescending twat you are.
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What a condescending twat you are.
😂😂😂
Rule number 1????
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Rule number 1????
I guess you agree with PRN that Markus was a "cancer." Nice guy, as well as a condescending twat.
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I guess you agree with PRN that Markus was a "cancer." Nice guy, as well as a condescending twat.
Never said that. Just noticing some inconsistencies in your arguments. Trying to get a better understanding of those.
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Doc.
And Apollo.
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Never said that. Just noticing some inconsistencies in your arguments. Trying to get a better understanding of those.
Not sure why you've been gloating. Your narrative was wrong, and you didn't even have enough courage of your convictions to give up your season tickets to make a move you considered vital to the program's future. If any alums did have influence, I'll give credit to those who were willing to actually act.
Anyhoo, I'm looking forward to you rooting against next season's team, too.
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Howard was a special talent. Wojo did not manage/coach him well, which is obvious because there was absolutely no NCAA Tourney success with Howard. I am not taking anything away from Howard; great player, represented the University well, and was a gentleman.
Ultimately, Wojo could not turn Howard's talent into NCAA wins.
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Howard was a special talent. Wojo did not manage/coach him well, which is obvious because there was absolutely no NCAA Tourney success with Howard. I am not taking anything away from Howard; great player, represented the University well, and was a gentleman.
Ultimately, Wojo could not turn Howard's talent into NCAA wins.
Agree with you, Fred. Wojo failed to even make the NIT the three years Markus wasn't around.
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Really, like who?
Doc, Tatum and Apollo.
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Agree with you, Fred. Wojo failed to even make the NIT the three years Markus wasn't around.
Now that is a good point. Kudos.
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Agree with you, Fred. Wojo failed to even make the NIT the three years Markus wasn't around.
Thanks. Honestly, I was kind of perplexed by Wojo's inability to translate Howard's talent into Marquette success? Wojo came from Duke, which had All-Americans everywhere. I thought for sure he could integrate Howard with the rest of the team (including the Hausers) and produce NCCA wins. Still can't figure it out?
Oh well, moving on from here.
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Retire
Doc has zero business having his number retired. I was far from Howard fan and would not argue too hard if they retired his number.
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Thanks. Honestly, I was kind of perplexed by Wojo's inability to translate Howard's talent into Marquette success? Wojo came from Duke, which had All-Americans everywhere. I thought for sure he could integrate Howard with the rest of the team (including the Hausers) and produce NCCA wins. Still can't figure it out?
Oh well, moving on from here.
IMO it was more mishandling everyone else. In 2017, Howard was young so that's whatever. But 2018, & 2019 I'd say he mishandled coaching the entire team. In 2020 it was because outside of a random appearance for Koby or Bailey he needed Howard to dominate the ball but all the same there wasn't even the option of getting a Tournament win in 2020.
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There was excitement this season, you guys just missed it.
Sure, 9th place was darn exciting. Watching them struggling to get the in bounds pass in, throwing the ball away, giving games to opponents, making the same mistakes over and over, dumb fouls because they are out of position on D, never pulling a player for bonehead plays, terrible shooting, poorly prepped for games (per Wojo). I could go on, but my fingers hurt.
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😂😂😂
Rule number 1????
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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If you're all keeping track. We take action when one user seems to resort to it too frequently (see JB). I've recently warned a "new" user about it because he came out flaming everyone. I do request you twats all stop calling each other twats though. Seriously. Be respectful.
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If you're all keeping track. We take action when one user seems to resort to it too frequently (see JB). I've recently warned a "new" user about it because he came out flaming everyone. I do request you twats all stop calling each other twats though. Seriously. Be respectful.
An admittedly weak defense for me, but I'll use my "he called me and others it first" card.
I'm done with it now.
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An admittedly weak defense for me, but I'll use my "he called me and others it first" card.
I'm done with it now.
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Have a nice night, sir. I hope you and your family are well, and remain that way. And I wish you good fortune.
We Are Marquette!
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Retire
Doc has zero business having his number retired. I was far from Howard fan and would not argue too hard if they retired his number.
Howard more deserving than Doc? Sure. But you feel Doc has no business having his # retired? Why?
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Retire
Doc has zero business having his number retired.
Bad take Goose. The guy is basketball royalty and a great ambassador for the university on and off the court.
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Bad take Goose. The guy is basketball royalty and a great ambassador for the university on and off the court.
Doc doesn’t meet the requirements for retirement if applied to players post-Crean.
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Howard more deserving than Doc? Sure. But you feel Doc has no business having his # retired? Why?
Doc is a great alumni and ambassador. But he wasn’t an AA. Wasn’t a lottery pick, never played in an NCAA tourney made a deep tourney run :o. And his NBA career, while long lasting, wasn’t all that special either. He’s been better as a coach than he was at a player at any level after HS.
At the time of his number being retired, he hadnt even won a title as a coach yet and wasn’t top 5-10 in any category in Marquette history other than steals.
He’s an all time great MU alumni in totality, but purely basketball in an MU jersey, if his number is retired, there are about 5 more numbers you retire since 2000, at a minimum (McNeal, Howard, Crowder, Butler, and Diener)...and I’m not advocating for any of those to be retired other than Howard.
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Doc is a great alumni and ambassador. But he wasn’t an AA. Wasn’t a lottery pick, never played in an NCAA tourney. And his NBA career, while long lasting, wasn’t all that special either. He’s been better as a coach than he was at a player at any level after HS.
At the time of his number being retired, he hadnt even won a title as a coach yet and wasn’t top 5-10 in any category in Marquette history other than steals.
He’s an all time great MU alumni in totality, but purely basketball in an MU jersey, if his number is retired, there are about 5 more numbers you retire since 2000, at a minimum (McNeal, Howard, Crowder, Butler, and Diener)...and I’m not advocating for any of those to be retired other than Howard.
I agree about Doc...but I'm pretty sure he played in two NCAA tourneys. Even won a game in one of them.
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I agree about Doc...but I'm pretty sure he played in two NCAA tourneys. Even won a game in one of them.
Yea amended that. Brain fart as I somehow placed him playing under Majerus. DEEERPP
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Doc is a great alumni and ambassador. But he wasn’t an AA. Wasn’t a lottery pick, never played in an NCAA tourney made a deep tourney run :o. And his NBA career, while long lasting, wasn’t all that special either. He’s been better as a coach than he was at a player at any level after HS.
At the time of his number being retired, he hadnt even won a title as a coach yet and wasn’t top 5-10 in any category in Marquette history other than steals.
He’s an all time great MU alumni in totality, but purely basketball in an MU jersey, if his number is retired, there are about 5 more numbers you retire since 2000, at a minimum (McNeal, Howard, Crowder, Butler, and Diener)...and I’m not advocating for any of those to be retired other than Howard.
Yes, I agree on Howard. Think of the guys you mentioned there, I would go with Diener.