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Title: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: AlienWarrior on March 20, 2021, 09:14:53 AM
Any ideas ?
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on March 20, 2021, 09:36:00 AM
I'd presume most are looking at their options now, put their names in the portal maybe depending on how quick the search is. There will be playing time available, so depending on who it is, some may feel that is their best option to have a role they want. With Covid shutting down everything, I can't see the main 3 guys having much to tie them to MU unfortunately, especially since they will have plenty of opportunities elsewhere.

I'd agree that only a Pitino would really keep everyone together because of his credentials, however I'm a no-no guy.  I doubt any of the recruits stay unless the new coach was already recruiting them.

Could Gates keep one or two of the big 3 in the fold? Sure, but I'm not holding my breath. This is a rebuild.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2021, 09:40:09 AM
Nun, hey?
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: Badgerhater on March 20, 2021, 09:43:51 AM
Transfers are just part of the game now. Every new coach basically has to re-recruit the current roster.  It's a chaos year in the entire NCAA and chaos can bring opportunity.  Let's all be patient and optimistic.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 20, 2021, 09:59:55 AM
It's quite possible that the players also saw that wojo needed to go.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 20, 2021, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: #UnleashWojo'sbuyout on March 20, 2021, 09:59:55 AM
It's quite possible that the players also saw that wojo needed to go.

Agree, but I think some will transfer rather than being part of a rebuild/new system (actually, a system) and a coach they did not choose to be their coach. I hope that some will stay but will not be surprised if we have a big walkout.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: dgies9156 on March 20, 2021, 10:22:07 AM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 20, 2021, 10:12:05 AM
Agree, but I think some will transfer rather than being part of a rebuild/new system (actually, a system) and a coach they did not choose to be their coach. I hope that some will stay but will not be surprised if we have a big walkout.

I would agree with you. If I was Scholls, I'd be asking for two weeks (until the end of the NCAA Tournament) to get my ducks in a row, find my coach and give him a chance to sell the existing team and the recruits.

I agree, there will be plenty of PT for the folks who want to invest in what Marquette will be. I also agree that the players knew something was really wrong this year and may be relieved the University did something.

Also am thinking that we will have some transfers but I'm optimistic the Big 3 on this team plus Greg Elliott and OSA stick around.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: CountryRoads on March 20, 2021, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 20, 2021, 10:22:07 AM
Also am thinking that we will have some transfers but I'm optimistic the Big 3 on this team plus Greg Elliott and OSA stick around.

You think we get everyone back except for the last two guys on the bench (dexter and Perez)? I don't know why everyone is saying Oso sticks around either. Surprised he stayed after Stan left.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: MU24 on March 20, 2021, 10:48:22 AM
I dont think its as important as people make it out to be. Lots of new coaches take over fairly intact rosters
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2021, 10:50:51 AM
Assume they all go, be happy if 1 or 2 or 3 or 5 (including recruits) stay.

And to answer the OP ... crucially important. Some of them might hit it off with Coach A but not Coach B, and vice versa. But there's little way to gauge that before the hire -- and even if there were, that shouldn't be the primary consideration.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 20, 2021, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: MU24 on March 20, 2021, 10:48:22 AM
I dont think its as important as people make it out to be. Lots of new coaches take over fairly intact rosters

But in those cases transfers had to sit a year. Not anymore
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2021, 01:39:03 PM
Very important.   The dies is cast.   Root for the best, prepare for the worst.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 20, 2021, 02:42:12 PM
To whether or not current players transfer out? Extremely important. Probably the most important factor in their decision.

To which coach we hire? Shouldn't be part of the calculus. You don't hire a coach just because you think he will keep your current roster intact.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 20, 2021, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 20, 2021, 02:42:12 PM
You don't hire a coach just because you think he will keep your current roster intact.

Unless you're in the situation Marquette was in the 2008, with a talented veteran team with a chance to win big.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: JWags85 on March 20, 2021, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 20, 2021, 02:55:32 PM
Unless you're in the situation Marquette was in the 2008, with a talented veteran team with a chance to win big.

But that's was also a successful coach moving on to a "higher" job. Not the first MU coach to get punted in 2 years
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: The Lens on March 20, 2021, 03:07:42 PM
I was planning on Wojo losing at least 2 of the Big 3.  Now anything is possible.  But realistically we'll probably lose all 3.  Anything less is gravy.  Still the right move.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: Goose on March 20, 2021, 03:12:12 PM
If you hire the right guy, the right players will be in place in 1-2 years. Hopefully they hire a guy with a system and you see if the current guys fit in or not. I have no concern over players now that a new coach will be hired.
Title: Re: How important is the new coach regarding player transfers?
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 20, 2021, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 20, 2021, 03:12:12 PM
If you hire the right guy, the right players will be in place in 1-2 years. Hopefully they hire a guy with a system and you see if the current guys fit in or not. I have no concern over players now that a new coach will be hired.

This.

Look, we don't even know who was coming back even if Wojo stayed. But if it was everybody and Wojo was at the helm next year would have looked a lot like this year. Paying a small price (10th place instead of 8th?) for a year is a small one for the chance to make the program relevant again.
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