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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Blackhat on March 19, 2021, 02:39:08 PM

Title: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Blackhat on March 19, 2021, 02:39:08 PM
Many of you were wrong it's ok.   I'm not here to judge. We need a coach with his passion and drive once again to succeed.

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Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Anti-Dentite on March 19, 2021, 02:42:21 PM
I would sure like to get back to junkyard dog ball, it's been missing for about 7 years.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: Anti-Dentite on March 19, 2021, 02:42:21 PM
I would sure like to get back to junkyard dog ball, it's been missing for about 7 years.

Kelvin Sampson would be #1 on my list if this is what you want.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 19, 2021, 02:45:35 PM
#5 from the guy who obsessively counts and memorizes lists and does pointless incorrect analysis?
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: withoutbias on March 19, 2021, 02:47:46 PM
God no. There's a happy medium between recruiting quality kids to the program and not winning like Wojo and recruiting kids who end up in the legal system under Buzz and before they get to Buzz but winning games. That's who we need.

I see things like taking responsibility for your actions and respecting women are not cardinal virtues for Buzz, and it showed.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 02:49:15 PM
I would be good with a Buzz-type as long as folks realize that Buzz has now finished Year 2 at TAMU and they still suck.

Buzz inherited a very good situation at Marquette. If several (or all) of DJ, Garcia, Lewis, Mitchell and Aidoo end up elsewhere, our cupboard will be more bare than a porn star. Buzz, or somebody like him, will have at least as tough a rebuilding job here as he has had at TAMU.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: BM1090 on March 19, 2021, 02:52:19 PM
Buzz was a complete phony. Great coach but "leader of men"? Lol
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 19, 2021, 02:53:29 PM
Who would be the designated toilet flusher?
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: DoctorV on March 19, 2021, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: BM1090 on March 19, 2021, 02:52:19 PM
Buzz was a complete phony. Great coach but "leader of men"? Lol

Maybe to the fans and admin, but definitely not to the kids that played for him.

They believed what he was preaching and they played like it
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on March 19, 2021, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 02:49:15 PM
I would be good with a Buzz-type as long as folks realize that Buzz has now finished Year 2 at TAMU and they still suck.

Buzz inherited a very good situation at Marquette. If several (or all) of DJ, Garcia, Lewis, Mitchell and Aidoo end up elsewhere, our cupboard will be more bare than a porn star. Buzz, or somebody like him, will have at least as tough a rebuilding job here as he has had at TAMU.
Agree Buzz inherited an awesome situation at Marquette and he knew it. Again in the old Big East MU was friends with other schools in the Old Big East and it helped. MU had more power from within in the Old Big East.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 19, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
My main quality I'm looking for .. a coach who can bring a team together and be more than the sum of its parts. 

I want a winner, a guy who has taken mediocre talent and done something with it, consistently. 

I don't need a big name coach.  Give me a consistent, crafty mid-major HC who scraps together guys and puts up Ws.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: RJax55 on March 19, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 19, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
My main quality I'm looking for .. a coach who can bring a team together and be more than the sum of its parts. 

I want a winner, a guy who has taken mediocre talent and done something with it, consistently. 

I don't need a big name coach.  Give me a consistent, crafty mid-major HC who scraps together guys and puts up Ws.

+1. That's the way the game is moving as well, given the amount of player movement. You need a coach that can adapt, plug in talent and produce.

The whole, "let's get old and stay old"  idea is great in theory. But, it is becoming extremely difficult to pull off.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: BM1090 on March 20, 2021, 10:12:46 PM
Quote from: DoctorV on March 19, 2021, 02:54:57 PM
Maybe to the fans and admin, but definitely not to the kids that played for him.

They believed what he was preaching and they played like it

Fair. I don't doubt that his players loved him.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: TheGym on March 21, 2021, 09:47:27 AM
Buzz left a stain on the program like no other.  Marquette fans bring up all of Wisconsin football off field problems, but seem to dismiss the ones within the family.

As Buzz said, "Character Revealed"
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Mu8891 on March 21, 2021, 10:01:01 AM
Buzz ?

Sure ... more sex assaults ( etc )

Terrible terrible publicity/ off court incidents
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: tower912 on March 21, 2021, 10:04:57 AM
Buzz let to the anti-Buzz hire, which led to where we are now.   His teams were the most enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 21, 2021, 12:54:01 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2021, 10:04:57 AM
Buzz let to the anti-Buzz hire, which led to where we are now.   His teams were the most enjoyable to watch.

And the most embarrassing to the university

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-cases-20111028-story.html
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 21, 2021, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2021, 10:04:57 AM
Buzz let to the anti-Buzz hire, which led to where we are now.   His teams were the most enjoyable to watch.

Revision, meet history.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: tower912 on March 21, 2021, 03:00:46 PM
Which part isn't true?   You don't think Wojo was the anti-  Buzz?   You don't think his tenure led to his firing which led to us being where we are now?   
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 21, 2021, 04:20:39 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 19, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
My main quality I'm looking for .. a coach who can bring a team together and be more than the sum of its parts. 

I want a winner, a guy who has taken mediocre talent and done something with it, consistently. 

I don't need a big name coach.  Give me a consistent, crafty mid-major HC who scraps together guys and puts up Ws.

Who needs 4 or 5 star recruits if the 2 and 3 star guys play like 4 or 5 star prima donnas. Though a few 4 star guys wouldn't hurt.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Cfollow on March 21, 2021, 07:01:19 PM
Buzz is a leader of MAN. He does whatever he can to lead himself to more money. Dude is absolutely bat crap crazy. I'll pass.
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 21, 2021, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 21, 2021, 12:54:01 PM
And the most embarrassing to the university

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-cases-20111028-story.html

  where is tom izzo when ya need em, eyn'a?
Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: Herman Cain on March 23, 2021, 09:48:31 AM
I agree we need a leader of men. Buzz was a good leader on the court . However , his enthusiasm was burnt out by the end of his tenure . There were many reasons for his fatigue, however I think a lot of Buzz energy is an act. It is possible to keep up an act for several years but at the 7 year mark it is much harder. I think once he turns A & M around he will be on to something new.

Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: burger on March 23, 2021, 10:18:53 AM
Same idea.....Different flavor......
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Title: Re: We need another leader of men like Buzz Williams
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on March 25, 2021, 06:35:08 AM
Quote from: burger on March 23, 2021, 10:18:53 AM
Same idea.....Different flavor......
(//)

With regard to that thought-wall, I pray Porter Moser never takes up golf.
The club will never make its way away from the ball. #post-its nightmares


The true talent of Moser is that, like an experienced golfer, he gets his charges to trust all of this they've studied and trained, so that the action happens seamlessly, without thought, basically ingrained into their muscle-memory. The individual to collective movement is like a flock of birds making pinpoint turns in unison. Calling it the product of "habit" or "culture" doesn't do it justice. It's truly the HolyGrail of "sum greater than the parts" we've been sorely lacking here.... to the highest degree.
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