No surprises. Dawson only MU representative as unanimous all-Freshman team. It's between him and Alexander for FOY.
Lewis may have made it if not for the injury and missed games.
https://www.bigeast.com/news/2021/3/7/mens-basketball-seton-halls-mamukelashvili-villanovas-robinson-earl-named-unanimously-to-all-big-east-first-team.aspx
I'd have selected Scruggs over Zagarowski, but not by a mile. Otherwise, all of it is pretty much no-doubters.
Hard to make Bouknight player of the year when he only played in 12 games, but it's a freaky year, so who knows.
So of the 14 placers, not counting freshmen, MU had nobody. Not onlt can Wojo-Dukiet coacj, he cant recruit. Why the F--K is the jury still out on this crap. Unacceptable...but perfectly OK to the minions.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 07, 2021, 05:31:29 PM
So of the 14 placers, not counting freshmen, MU had nobody. Not onlt can Wojo-Dukiet coacj, he cant recruit. Why the F--K is the jury still out on this crap. Unacceptable...but perfectly OK to the minions.
Ellenson, Howard and Sam only first teamers during Wojo era?
*edit - I don't believe Sam was ever first team.
Nate Watson should be first team over Mamu. Unsurprisingly, a SHU player gets picked over a vastly superior and more efficient player two years in a row.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
Nate Watson should be first team over Mamu. Unsurprisingly, a SHU player gets picked over a vastly superior and more efficient player two years in a row.
Watson should play dirtier and be a general douche, and get that NYC media bump. Worked for Mamu.
Will Theo get defensive POY?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 07, 2021, 07:25:03 PM
Will Theo get defensive POY?
At the Marquette banquet? Sure.
It'll be interesting to see who gets fresh of the year. Dawson with far and away the best numbers, but the whole 10th place thing may change some votes.
Watt place did Woj finnish inn da koach of da yeer votin', hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2021, 07:43:05 PM
Watt place did Woj finnish inn da koach of da yeer votin', hey?
Can you vote for yourself?
Quote from: panda on March 07, 2021, 07:40:38 PM
It'll be interesting to see who gets fresh of the year. Dawson with far and away the best numbers, but the whole 10th place thing may change some votes.
Ellenson got it when MU was a bottom half team. Akinjo got it a couple of years ago when the Hoyas were .500. Table finish doesn't negate a vote if you're the best.
Garcia clearly deserves it but Alexander was good for four games in early February (pedestrian since then) and he got way more hype for those four games than Garcia has gotten all season. Feels like a rerun of the Powell/Howard vote with the NYC metro guy getting an extra push.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 07, 2021, 08:43:46 PM
Ellenson got it when MU was a bottom half team. Akinjo got it a couple of years ago when the Hoyas were .500. Table finish doesn't negate a vote if you're the best.
Garcia clearly deserves it but Alexander was good for four games in early February (pedestrian since then) and he got way more hype for those four games than Garcia has gotten all season. Feels like a rerun of the Powell/Howard vote with the NYC metro guy getting an extra push.
MU's place in the standings doesn't help.
As for your second paragraph, thanks for regurgitating my point.
Quote from: panda on March 07, 2021, 07:40:38 PM
It'll be interesting to see who gets fresh of the year. Dawson with far and away the best numbers, but the whole 10th place thing may change some votes.
Posh: 11.1 ppg, 4.4 apt, 3.5 rpg, in the BE in steals with 2.6 pg for the 4th place team.
Dawson: 13.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg for the 9th place team.
FG percentage about the same. Probably have to go Posh.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 07, 2021, 10:00:29 PM
Posh: 11.1 ppg, 4.4 apt, 3.5 rpg, in the BE in steals with 2.6 pg for the 4th place team.
Dawson: 13.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg for the 9th place team.
FG percentage about the same. Probably have to go Posh.
Eh. The 4th place team finished with only 2 more conference wins than the 9th place team. The 4th place team didn't have to play Uconn a second time. The 9th placed team missed out on one of their easiest games.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 07, 2021, 07:31:43 PM
At the Marquette banquet? Sure.
We'll see soon this AM. MU has the top defense in the BE in the paint. Theo's block clinched the X game. I think MU fans undervalue his defensive impact on a team who gives opponents a lot of extra possessions back, and easy ones in transition.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
Nate Watson should be first team over Mamu. Unsurprisingly, a SHU player gets picked over a vastly superior and more efficient player two years in a row.
Agree. Worse, it's likely either Robinson-Earl or Mamu as POY as they were the only two unanimous selections.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
Nate Watson should be first team over Mamu. Unsurprisingly, a SHU player gets picked over a vastly superior and more efficient player two years in a row.
Good call. So that's two the coaches got wrong.
And as Dr. B says, Mamu could end up being POY, which would be dopey.
Here are Seth Davis' choices in The Athletic. Prepare to be outraged!
POY: Sandro Mamukelashvili, 6-11 senior forward, Seton Hall. There was no shortage of candidates, particularly from Villanova and Creighton, the top two teams in the conference, but Mamukelashvili excelled in more areas than any of them. He ranked second in the Big East in points (17.8), fifth in field goal percentage (45.0) and sixth in rebounds (7.3). He also averaged 3.1 assists, second-highest on the team, while sinking 34.8 percent from 3-point range and 73.0 percent from the foul line.
COY: Jay Wright, Villanova. This supposedly wasn't a vintage Villanova team, but it still won the regular-season title by two games. It's not easy to carry the expectations of this program, but Wright is comfortable playing the favorite, and it shows in the way his guys compete.
FOY: Posh Alexander, 6-foot guard, St. John's. Two freshmen in the league led their teams in scoring, Butler's Chuck Harris (12.8 points per game) and Marquette's Dawson Garcia (13.2). Alexander was the Red Storm's second-leading scorer at 11.1 points, but he had the added responsibility of playing point guard and was by far the best defensive player of the three top candidates. Alexander led the Big East and ranked seventh nationally in steals at 2.6 per game. He also ranked sixth in the conference in assists (4.4) and seventh in assist-to-turnover ratio (1.9).
DPOY: Isaiah Whaley, 6-9 senior forward, UConn. Whaley is a specialist, but he does his thing exceptionally well. He was second in the league and 11th ninth in the country in blocks at 2.7 per game. He also averages 6.0 rebounds and 0.9 steals per game. Whaley's presence at the rim is what ties UConn's defense together, and even when he's not blocking shots he's the main reason the Huskies lead the Big East in defensive efficiency, scoring defense, effective field goal defense and blocks percentage.
MIP: Julian Champagnie, 6-8 sophomore forward, St. John's. Last year Champagnie was an inconsistent, inefficient freshman, but because the program was at an ebb he was made a starter and force-fed 25.6 minutes per game. That experience, combined with a lot of work in the offseason, set Champagnie up for a brilliant sophomore season. After averaging 9.9 points on 31.2 percent 3-point shooting in 2019-20, Champagnie led the Big East in scoring (19.9 points) and free throw shooting (88.7 percent) while ranking ninth in 3-point shooting at 38.7 percent. He was also fourth in the league in steals (1.5), seventh in rebounding (7.3), and ninth in blocks (1.0).
I haven't seen all their games obviously, but Posh Alexander would get my vote for DPOY based on what I saw. He is so disruptive. They tend to give it to big men, so Theo should at least be in the discussion.
Quote from: MU82 on March 08, 2021, 07:38:05 AM
Here are Seth Davis' choices in The Athletic. Prepare to be outraged!
DPOY: Isaiah Whaley, 6-9 senior forward, UConn. Whaley is a specialist, but he does his thing exceptionally well. He was second in the league and 11th ninth in the country in blocks at 2.7 per game. He also averages 6.0 rebounds and 0.9 steals per game. Whaley's presence at the rim is what ties UConn's defense together, and even when he's not blocking shots he's the main reason the Huskies lead the Big East in defensive efficiency, scoring defense, effective field goal defense and blocks percentage.
It's cool that Whaley was 11th ninth in blocks. That's hard for Theo to overcome, even though he was seventy-leventh.
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 08, 2021, 07:46:59 AM
I haven't seen all their games obviously, but Posh Alexander would get my vote for DPOY based on what I saw. He is so disruptive. They tend to give it to big men, so Theo should at least be in the discussion.
Alexander and Whaley share the award. So it seems Theo wasn't in much of the discussion.
Could be a sign that Alexander gets DPOY and Garcia gets FOY or it could be a sign that Marquette is totally irrelevant for award selection.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 08, 2021, 09:26:56 AM
It's cool that Whaley was 11th ninth in blocks. That's hard for Theo to overcome, even though he was seventy-leventh.
Theo has nothing to realistically to overcome. He is a decent defensive center on a middling defensive team.
MU shut out. No surprises.
https://www.bigeast.com/news/2021/3/8/mens-basketball-big-east-announces-individual-mbb-awards.aspx
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 08, 2021, 10:20:42 AM
MU shut out. No surprises.
https://www.bigeast.com/news/2021/3/8/mens-basketball-big-east-announces-individual-mbb-awards.aspx
Well, we don't know yet that Garcia won't be FOY. But probably not.
I guess this means we should fire Wojo twice.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 08, 2021, 09:26:56 AM
It's cool that Whaley was 11th ninth in blocks. That's hard for Theo to overcome, even though he was seventy-leventh.
But seventy-leventh should be good for a free Slurpee right?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 08, 2021, 11:48:13 AM
But seventy-leventh should be good for a free Slurpee right?
You betcha!