Let's go now!!! Nothing is over.
Good Grief.... Ryan Hollins?? Someone hired him? Smh.
TOTALLY INEXCUSABLE!
WTF was that by McEwen?
Putrid start.
First to 10 points?
Always fun to check the turnover count in the box score two minutes in and then do some projections.
this is a bricklayers convention
Abysmal basketball. It's as if we don't want to take over with how bad Prov has been. 10-10 pace at the end of the 1st half. Brutal offense to say the least.
5 inexcusable turns. All self-inflicted.
We should win this game by 10+. Prov is terrible.
Has anyone on Providence ever shot a basketball before? Good lord.
We're not so good either
Haven't taken advantage of their ineptitude. Smh.
I wish that some year we'd have a guard that could make a good entry pass.
Of course, I also have to wish for a big that could get to the proper spot to receive said pass, and had the hands not to flub it.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:22:45 PM
We should win this game by 10+. Prov is terrible.
Muggsy...
You're good enough. You're smart enough. And doggone it, people like you!
Watson look hurt. But if course we have not taken advantage. Veer upset right now. This is a s-show.
Can't even do a fast break.
Wojo should yank players committing turn overs. He doesn't do anything about them.
7 fucking TOs in 11 minutes. How's that "we really gotta value the ball" thing working?
7 turnovers in 12 minutes...
I just think if the talent on MU was so good, it would show through even with the subpar coaching.
I am not being hyperbolic:
Worst 12 mins of Warriors basketball I have seen in my lifetime.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:30:12 PM
I am not being hyperbolic:
Worst 12 mins of Warriors basketball I have seen in my lifetime.
So you missed the DePaul game?
Playing so tentative and afraid to make turnovers......resulting in more turnovers.
How many of these before the pandemic isn't an issue for showing Wojo the door?
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on January 27, 2021, 06:30:00 PM
7 turnovers in 12 minutes...
And it's not like we're being pressed or guarded by the Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Bulls.
Marquette Basketball... Catch the fever!
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 27, 2021, 06:29:55 PM
7 unnatural carnal knowledgeing TOs in 11 minutes. How's that "we really gotta value the ball" thing working?
par for the course
Playin' like der lives depend on it, aina?
Quote from: StillWarriors on January 27, 2021, 06:31:28 PM
Playing so tentative and afraid to make turnovers......resulting in more turnovers.
Outstanding point StillWarriors. Hesitation = Death. I don't get it
This is embarrassing.
I feel like this team is checked out.
Freshman showing Theo how to finish
Lazy effort on that weak side reb by JLew.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:44:45 PM
Lazy effort on that weak side reb by JLew.
Just terrible. Dude is consistently late helping out
Absolute garbage right now. We'd be down 25+ to a top 50 team.
I would not worry about players transferring due to firing Wojo - I worry more about players transferring not wanting to play for such a crap team.
Wojo by his own admission is clueless how to stop turn overs. Bobby Knight stopped turnovers by pulling players out of the game. Come on Wojo wake up and coach.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 27, 2021, 06:47:57 PM
I would not worry about players transferring due to firing Wojo - I worry more about players transferring not wanting to play for such a crap team.
At this point of this game I'm worried about players deciding to stay.
Wow, ng. Are they playing the NIT this year?
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on January 27, 2021, 06:42:25 PM
I feel like this team is checked out.
You may very well be right.
If you shoot 36%, you're gonna have a bad time.
Theo with a fabulous sequence back to back TO's in the post. This team is just lost with the exception of Turn Overs where they excel.
Nice. DY takes the last shot.
I am completely deflated and can not comprehend how badly this team plays.
It's looking like this team has essentially quit. Effort and intensity way down. Providence looks terrible also. Nothing to feel positive about win or lose here.
Looks like a bad decade to be a Warrior fan.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 27, 2021, 06:47:57 PM
I would not worry about players transferring due to firing Wojo - I worry more about players transferring not wanting to play for such a crap team.
I was just thinking if they're playing to save the coaches job...
I'm swaying back and forth between anger and sadness. This is beyond unacceptable.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:52:57 PM
I'm swaying back and forth between anger and sadness. This is beyond unacceptable.
Apathy is easier.
More turnovers than made baskets.
9 turnovers
Garcia played maybe 6 minutes, 3 turnovers.
Cain has not taken a shot.
MU 0 for 7 from three.
1 offensive rebound, 2 assists.
Offense seems to want to go to Theo, blocked twice, two turnovers.
Very hard to watch.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:50:23 PM
You may very well be right.
I dont think a team "checks out" and holds the opponent to 25 points. I do think it is absolutely insane Wojo can't get this team to play better offensively. They aren't going to light anyone up...but they don't have to with their defense. This continued inability to put a team on the court that can consistently compete on both ends of the court has been an unexplainable scenario for 6 friggin years.
Put Garcia in the post can't get worse and he might score
Quote from: BM1090 on January 27, 2021, 06:53:15 PM
Apathy is easier.
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18 points, 0% from three, and more turnovers then made baskets. This is what MU basketball under Wojo has become.
I really like Theo, but running your offense through him is not a winning strategy.
Jamal Cain has disappeared since the GTown game.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 27, 2021, 06:56:03 PM
Put Garcia in the post can't get worse and he might score
Have you watched him handling the ball today? Might as well pass it to a PC player in the post (we've done that a few times actually)
And there isn't any sharpshooter coming in to help next season, either.
I know people love Wojo's recruiting....
Team just cant play a solid half, let alone complete game to save their lives. The amount of turnovers is truly unreal. Are we even Top250 in that category?
Could someone off the street do a better job than Wojo with this roster? What is a more emphatic synonym for S-Show? If we continue this dumpster fire the next 20 mins there is no way Wojo should be coaching on Tues. Period.
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on January 27, 2021, 06:56:25 PM
18 points, 0% from three, and more turnovers then made baskets. This is what MU basketball under Wojo has become.
Stats wise MU is not a bad 3pt team. But it seems the guys were told to go into the post or else. Can't explain it otherwise.
Garcia can't jump and he's a lousy passer. Theo can't shoot. Let's play Alamo and Oso.
It'd be one thing if the Big East was stacked this year, but I think this is the worst the conference has looked since realignment. We look pathetic against the worst teams in a mediocre league.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 27, 2021, 07:00:58 PM
Garcia can't jump and he's a lousy passer. Theo can't shoot. Let's play Alamo and Oso.
I don't remember the Alamo.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 27, 2021, 06:55:51 PM
I dont think a team "checks out" and holds the opponent to 25 points. I do think it is absolutely insane Wojo can't get this team to play better offensively. They aren't going to light anyone up...but they don't have to with their defense. This continued inability to put a team on the court that can consistently compete on both ends of the court has been an unexplainable scenario for 6 friggin years.
Nah, Marquette is definitely checked out. Providence is also playing like a$$.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on January 27, 2021, 07:01:20 PM
It'd be one thing if the Big East was stacked this year, but I think this is the worst the conference has looked since realignment. We look pathetic against the worst teams in a mediocre league.
Understatement. MU could very easily have losses against St John's and Georgetown as well.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 27, 2021, 06:53:15 PM
Apathy is easier.
Probably very wise words, I just find myself unable to do it.
Let's face it, it's hard to be apathetic when you see a guy clearing over $2M/yr. and producing this kind of ball. How can you NOT be pissed off?
But, to echo an earlier poster in this thread, there's room for sadness as well - largely due to the fact that there seems to be no end in sight to this situation.
Listening to the guys in the studio try to come up with a reason for people to keep watching has been the most entertaining thing that's happened tonight.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 27, 2021, 06:59:00 PM
Stats wise MU is not a bad 3pt team. But it seems the guys were told to go into the post or else. Can't explain it otherwise.
Correct, you can see the players holding up and continuing to look for the pass down low. Did it early with Garcia and disaster. Why you make Theo your offensive target, with 6 10, 260 Watson guarding you.
Carton and Koby need to say screw this crap and take over.
Marquette Basketball 2021: We're only watching because we're bored at home.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:52:57 PM
I'm swaying back and forth between anger and sadness. This is beyond unacceptable.
Wojo won't be here for ever. Just waitin him out at this point
f uck tht call
Quote from: NickelDimer on January 27, 2021, 07:07:05 PM
Wojo won't be here for ever. Just waitin him out at this point
It jus feels like forever
Koby and Theo seem into it, but that's about it.
Maybe that trifecta gets us going?
Garcia looks so lost. Confidence is shaken.
Does Garcia know how to spell defense?
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 27, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
Garcia looks so lost. Confidence is shaken.
Product of playing for a horrible coach
Wish Garcia could jump.
Two big hoops from DG. Time to take control of this game after the atrocious first half.
We got it to within 3. Lets see if something positive can come from this.
How in the world did McEwen miss that?
Unreal.
Koby gotta finish that lay up
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 06:22:45 PM
We should win this game by 10+. Prov is terrible.
Prov guy is saying the same of MU
Have we ever heard of a shot fake or playing under control? Good grief. Beyond frustrating. This team is poorly coached.
Thank god for the other ref.
That moron was about to give Prov the ball
Is there a stat for teams that get blocked the most?
omg that TO.
Koby with an unreal inbound pass.🤦🏻♂️
You could put 9 dead bodies and Breed on the floor, and Breed would be the worst basketball player by a country mile.
Would be nice if one of these times down 3 with the ball we actually score.
Maybe here as I'm typing it. Cain nearly travels and now at the line.
Let's go now!!
Theo Cousy!
Just tuned in. What's the quick synopsis of what I missed so far!?!
Koby slapping the floor on defense.
Keep Elliott in the game, the ball moves better when he is in.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 27, 2021, 07:27:31 PM
Just tuned in. What's the quick synopsis of what I missed so far!?!
Lots of awful basketball. Fortunately MU up by 1.
Garcia and Lewis must lead the country in freshman big men duo getting their shots blocked.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 27, 2021, 07:27:31 PM
Just tuned in. What's the quick synopsis of what I missed so far!?!
A couple of High School Division III teams are really battling it out.
No patience. Move the freaking basketball.
Such a rushed shot by Dawson.
We get the lead finally and the meltdown immediately commences.
As a guy who does a HS D2 team on radio, last night's 80-75 game with lots of future college athletes on the floor was much more entertaining.
Anyone who jumps on a pump fake should sit.
Fouls only going one way right now
Two terrible teams
WTF? Did Elliott touch him?
Steve Lappas is the MUBB of announcers
Symir blows.
If hes not handing DUke a wide open 3 hes humping him 50 feet from the basket
If you are dumb, you sit. Should be a simple motto.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 27, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
Symir blows.
If hes not handing DUke a wide open 3 hes humping him 50 feet from the basket
If you are dumb, you sit. Should be a simple motto.
Has he made a good play this season?
MU foul machine now
Get Torrence out of there and put Koby back in, now. Nothing to lose.
It's really clear that can't coach.
are the cutters moving so fast I miss them? It looks like they are standing still
MU Women mirror image of the men's team tonight.
It's unreal to think that Symir was a top 75 recruit. Not trying to pile on him too much but it's been pretty clear in the almost two years of college he's played that he's not a high major player
DJ and Greg lets goooooooo
Welcome DJ, it's your show
Elliot has a very nice stroke. He should be a bigger part of this offense.
And carton has made a lot of nice passes.
I think Greg has earned himself some crunch time minutes.
nice
Let's go now!!! GE with a big triple.
I would hate GE as an opposing fan, but having him on my team. "I love it"
Reeves. Dude is a D2 player against any non Marquette team.
Don't need the step back three. Whatever happened to moving the basketball?
reeves has hit like one 3
The players play much better when they are fired up. Too bad Wojo can't fire them up. Buzz could.
Carton is a very unclutch FT shooter. Consistent trend from game to game
Djs miss is giving depaul vibes ugh
Horrible sequence there. DJ misses the 1 and 1, JLew doesn't box out. Fk.
DJ's free throw shooting is so maddening.
Every time he puts on a good stretch. He chucks a shot, turns it over and bricks a big free throw.
Now we foul Watson on the other end and are down 3.
You want the NBA? Earn it.
Another key free throw miss.
8-1 run
Every single game. Melt downs.
Just like DePaul game, DJ missing free throws, then down the team toilet. That hurts
Justin Lewis= open door
not even fun anymore. Just let it slip everytime.
Justin gettin' used and abused.
FTs matta
Quote from: mumi27 on January 27, 2021, 07:54:41 PM
Carton is a very unclutch FT shooter. Consistent trend from game to game
This is becoming a trend
No words can describe that turnover. Why??
Throw it to Theo in traffic will never be the optimal play.
Greg open up top.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 27, 2021, 07:58:59 PM
Throw it to Theo in traffic will never be the optimal play.
Greg open up top.
Bounce pass to Theo wide open, much more optimal.
Get a stop, drop the hammer, get the W.
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DJ drive to win it.
Good god
Travel.
Would you expect anything else?
UGH all that time and cant get anything
Oh my......Koby walked.
But maybe a timeout to set a play, or attack before 5 seconds on clock?
This could be the type of situation where Wojo draws up a play to keep the Projo V Nojo seesaw going.
Good God...... Sums the season up so far.
Ughhh. Infuriating possession. Can we get a miracle hoop?
At least Wojo didn't call a time out to set that up!!
That's unreal. DJ needs to take the shot!
DJ should've just drove to the basket on the last possession.
If DJ wants to be a stud.
Hes gotta have the nads to go win a game. He shoulda been driving the rack to win the game. Not dribbling for 20 seconds and kicking it out to a guy who doesnt have time to drive and struggles with TOs
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on January 27, 2021, 08:05:17 PM
DJ should've just drove to the basket on the last possession.
ye brutal they got just nothing there
Oh, God! 5 more minutes of this crap?
Lucky to get to OT Lucky Duke missed that shot and Providence missed the tip-in. Hope we can steal one in OT.
Just rewound and watched. DJ dribbled for 22 seconds standing there before resembling an attack, then passed.
We got to get out of the gates quick and get a lead in OT.
Quote from: nyg on January 27, 2021, 08:07:15 PM
Just rewound and watched. DJ dribbled for 22 seconds standing there before resembling an attack, then passed.
Yeah that was brutal.
Say what you want about Markus. By guys like Markus and Vander aint afraid to go try and win a game.
Another terrible possession.
Because DJ sat with the ball for half the possession instead of 1. Driving or 2. Passing to a post up.
just take the open 3 lewis
Our play is Carton dribble, drive, get passive, stop, turn back, and everyone standing watching because he is supposed to finish?
Duke has the stones.
DJ now finally attacks and throws up a wild shot. Dude might need a 5th year much less leave early.
Duke has crushed Koby all night,this one is over
This is pure agony.
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Another painful loss. idk tourney is prolly out of reach
And it's over. Crushed in OT. Don't really care. This is a crap team with a crap coach going nowhere. They may not win a game the rest of this year. And I don't really care.
Duke absolutely bullying both our "go to" guards.
WTF Greg
Lets just keep fouling Duke
Breed one of the best. what can ya do
WHy doesnt DJ always do that sh it?!?!?!
What can't be lost in this mess of a game is just how awful Providence played, too.
Wtf was Torrence doing on that three point shot?????
Thats a wrap. On the season.
DJ waits til we are down 4 to start driving and throwing hammers.
I will always appreciate Sy for trying to push pace.
But lol at greg trying to dribble
Torrence might legitimately be the most useless player in the big east. Oh well, he fits in on this team
How can Breed be that wide open?
Damn. We didn't earn it but it was exciting for five seconds or so
PU only did not score on one possession in OT. Points in all others. MU was putrid and stagnant on offense.
That Elliott turnover was the dagger.
All the energy and momentum on MU's side after Carton's dunk and somehow Torrence loses his man for the open 3?
Gross
Leave Wojo
Carton,Garcia,Lewis and Oso,good bye everybody else
This program legit sucks right now
How can Wojo's teams get worse as every season wears on. Every year it's the same thing! We got off to a promising start! Lewis looked like a world beater, Garcia was as advertised, McEwen was improved, DJ was solid. Why the hell happened? It's like Wojo drains the life out of them. He's the Vampire Coach.
Symir should not play, This is ridicilous. Are jose and akkano that bad? Stevie if ur half decent ur forsh year, get ready to take this guys time. cant take these losses anymore... omg
Years and years of the Wojo apologists and their snarky remarks....
Well, hope you're happy with your guy
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 27, 2021, 08:19:32 PM
How can Wojo's teams get worse as every season wears on. Every year it's the same thing! We got off to a promising start! Lewis looked like a world beater, Garcia was as advertised, McEwen was improved, DJ was solid. Why the hell happened? It's like Wojo drains the life out of them. He's the Vampire Coach.
It's because he has no counterpunch. He never has. Teams get a look and the second time through they adjust, he doesn't. He's a scrub coach
anyone actually surprised by this? team sucks, coach sucks, program sucks. when you suck you lose
If Woj had developed team play, instead of getting in bed with Howard, he wouldn't be in this spot now, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 27, 2021, 08:25:13 PM
If Woj had developed team play, instead of getting in bed with Howard, he wouldn't be in this spot now, hey?
Strong disagree. Wojo has done nothing to make me think he knows how to learn or teach. Tough to teach when you are in so far over your head. In hindsight, the excitment and wins that Markus brought extended Wojo's stay. Smart move if you are Wojo.
It's like watching a pickup game without coaches.
Not surprised. Just continued disappointment.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on January 27, 2021, 08:20:24 PM
Years and years of the Wojo apologists and their snarky remarks....
Well, hope you're happy with your guy
Years and years? From a guy with 15 posts?
Too much "me" basketball not team basketball. The basketball IQ of this team collectively is very poor with no real, single individual,either, who can take charge.
Poor ball care, poor decision making for guys who've played this game a while, lack of movement or team approach on offense, no improvement in skills or knowledge that we are 16 games into this season.... Not excited at all about the prospects, either....
The program is broken. No shame in recognizing that. The only fault would be for fans and/or administration to ignore it.
Look at the last 10 seconds. Wojo is yelling for the team NOT to foul, because the game was over. What does the team do? Foul. There's no cohesion between players and coach. There's a talent gap between our team and other programs in conference. There's also a noticeable lack in development of our players compared to other programs'. For first time in my MU fandom, I was not angry or frustrated by us losing. I accepted it. We are in ROUGH shape moving forward. We are going to struggle winning a majority of our games.
The question is will it be enough to force a change...
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 27, 2021, 08:25:13 PM
If Woj had developed team play, instead of getting in bed with Howard, he wouldn't be in this spot now, hey?
Has nothing to do with Markus. Has a lot to do with Duke. I think.
I truly believe Wojo does OK teaching the basics of basketball offense and defense. But to "cover" for the wrinkles that other coaches & players throw at you, he relies on the personnel. The players are responsible for the gap that Wojo leaves, and he doesn't provide enough support, energy, or strategies. That's where Markus was awesome.
And that's no me saying it's not Wojo's fault - because it seems after all these years he's still missing the mark on the intangibles of team energy, and providing a few pointers to beat guys one-on-one, or as a team.
But for those that think Cooley is a good guy & coach. We've basically got Cooley. Looked like two of the same team tonight.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 08:20:16 PM
Symir should not play, This is ridicilous. Are jose and akkano that bad? Stevie if ur half decent ur forsh year, get ready to take this guys time. cant take these losses anymore... omg
I mentioned this following the Depaul game. Who takes Koby's spot next year, well this year also because Koby always in foul trouble?
Tonight Akanno got the first sub and he has had his opportunities, cannot hit a shot.
Elliott basically comes in for Cain, so he is out at guard #2 spot. Too thin and can't dribble.
Symir, well he has had his chances, BUT he cannot hit an outside shot to save his life. Symir is 4 for 27 from three for a whopping 14%. That is brutal bad.
Hope for a transfer or this Mitchell kid from Philly actually can shoot.
Quote from: nyg on January 27, 2021, 08:36:10 PM
I mentioned this following the Depaul game. Who takes Koby's spot next year, well this year also because Koby always in foul trouble?
Tonight Akanno got the first sub and he has had his opportunities, cannot hit a shot.
Elliott basically comes in for Cain, so he is out at guard #2 spot. Too thin and can't dribble.
Symir, well he has had his chances, BUT he cannot hit an outside shot to save his life. Symir is 4 for 27 from three for a whopping 14%. That is brutal bad.
Hope for a transfer or this Mitchell kid from Philly actually can shoot.
My cousin saw Mitchell a half dozen times and said he's an under the radar talented scorer. Not sure if he'll translate to college, but we'll know next year.
Looking forward to seeing him.
I thought the turning point of the game was around 14 minute mark and score was like 33-30.
Koby misses a wide open layup
Garcia misses a two footer
Lewis misses a two footer
Koby throws in bound pass directly to PU player
Four possessions and I believe MU had made four stops. That sequence was really bad.
For the game MU shooting 3 for 16 from three also bad, with turnovers. Cain took one shot and was fouled, so basically zero shot attempts.
Dawson Garcia in last two games has a total of 8 points and 6 turnovers. Alot of hype for the young fella, but he is struggling.
We don't have 40 minutes of energy and consistent positive play. There was one rebound we missed and we had two guys who could get it versus their one. Looked like each assumed the other would get it.
Attack the basket. It works a lot. With 27 seconds left game tied and we have the ball - did the team know what the play was? No time out. Ok maybe that was the strategy. But out of control ball movement. Should have had carton attack the rim.
And .8 left we have Elliott shooting but not from his corner spots. Where's Garcia? Setting a screen I think. Ugh. Frustrating to watch.
Another disappointing effort.
Marquette basketball has become a terd in the public restroom that can't be flushed.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 08:12:50 PM
Another painful loss. idk tourney is prolly out of reach
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