Politics aside. A bunch of these teams have fans in the stands!
Covid #'s have been decreasing a bit. Maybe MU can get some people in the stands at some point in the next month if people mask up and we can get the vaccine in a few more arms!
MU should offer free admission to all front line health care workers. They will have already been vaccinated, it would get fans in the stands and would be a great PR move.
Agreed. Whether it is free admission to front line healthcare workers or selling tickets to others, it would be a very low risk move to allow masked and vaccinated fans into the arena.
100% tickets to those vaccinated, free for health care
I'd rather contract COVID than watch this game in person
This team would have been booed at multiple points tonight. Let's not rush fans back in
Quote from: JWags85 on January 23, 2021, 07:24:50 PM
This team would have been booed at multiple points tonight. Let's not rush fans back in
Exactly, boo birds would be insane at Fiserv now in pre game intros. Fans would need to be heavily vetted before entry to ensure they wouldn't boo. It'd be an ugly scene and actually probably best for wojo if no fans allowed.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 23, 2021, 11:47:32 PM
Exactly, boo birds would be insane at Fiserv now in pre game intros. Fans would need to be heavily vetted before entry to ensure they wouldn't boo. It'd be an ugly scene and actually probably best for wojo if no fans allowed.
Wait, you would really screen fans to make sure they wouldn't boo Wojo or boo when a bad play us made? Surely, (Shirley?) you can't be serious.
Quote from: fjm on January 23, 2021, 01:37:59 PM
Politics aside. A bunch of these teams have fans in the stands!
Covid #'s have been decreasing a bit. Maybe MU can get some people in the stands at some point in the next month if people mask up and we can get the vaccine in a few more arms!
Is it a MU decision or State of WI decision?
Quote from: skianth16 on January 24, 2021, 12:12:51 AM
Wait, you would really screen fans to make sure they wouldn't boo Wojo or boo when a bad play us made? Surely, (Shirley?) you can't be serious.
Don't call me Shirley.
Hope fans show up soon, they need help
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 23, 2021, 05:50:47 PM
I'd rather contract COVID than watch this game in person
LOL is a fixture, and not necessarily indicative of a true response.
Literally, I hardly ever do it, but I did here.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 24, 2021, 11:12:02 AM
Is it a MU decision or State of WI decision?
Most likely a local municipality decision, so either the county or the city
I'm in a HS gym every weekend watching my son or daughter play hoops. It's kind of ridiculous that I can't go to a MU (or Bucks) game.
Mask up
No concessions
25% capacity
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2021, 08:16:19 AM
I'm in a HS gym every weekend watching my son or daughter play hoops. It's kind of ridiculous that I can't go to a MU (or Bucks) game.
Mask up
No concessions
25% capacity
You're lucky you can watch HS hoops. Here in Michigan basketball still isn't allowed to be played. Such BS
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2021, 08:16:19 AM
I'm in a HS gym every weekend watching my son or daughter play hoops. It's kind of ridiculous that I can't go to a MU (or Bucks) game.
Mask up
No concessions
25% capacity
If I can't get a beer then I ain't goin'. I need alcohol to get through games these days.
I can't imagine anyone risking health and safety to watch these games.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 29, 2021, 10:06:28 AM
I can't imagine anyone risking health and safety to watch these games.
I already am risking health by watching on tv luckily I've been able to overcome the nausea so far
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 29, 2021, 10:06:28 AM
I can't imagine anyone risking health and safety to watch these games.
This was probably too snarky. I really like the players, the program off the court, and I think we have some pretty good talent. I just don't think the coaching staff puts them in the best position to succeed.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 29, 2021, 10:18:27 AM
This was probably too snarky. I really like the players, the program off the court, and I think we have some pretty good talent. I just don't think the coaching staff puts them in the best position to succeed.
I understood what you meant with your original comments!
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2021, 08:16:19 AM
I'm in a HS gym every weekend watching my son or daughter play hoops. It's kind of ridiculous that I can't go to a MU (or Bucks) game.
Mask up
No concessions
25% capacity
You're not related to the players on the court. Keeping them away from the virus prevents them from contracting it and doing a shut down/pause. HS hoops doesn't have the money involved that NCAA hoops or the NBA does.
C.R.E.A.M.
My grandsons elementry school games have never been cancelled in Georgia. I get regular video snippets from my son. Full participation with no issues, Schools opened since August
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 29, 2021, 02:25:07 PM
You're not related to the players on the court. Keeping them away from the virus prevents them from contracting it and doing a shut down/pause. HS hoops doesn't have the money involved that NCAA hoops or the NBA does.
C.R.E.A.M.
My kids actually aren't in HS, they play WBYL in HS gyms / field houses. Typically 4 games going on at once. I sit on bleachers 3-4 feet away from another parent. We're all masked up (players too) and we've been doing it since November.
There's easily 500 people in there with players / coaches / refs / parents and next team up.
Given that I do that every weekend, I'm left to wonder why we're not seeing more fans at MU / Bucks games.
And I would definitely keep a no concession rule to ensure masks stay on 100%.
Quote from: The Lens on January 29, 2021, 03:04:19 PM
My kids actually aren't in HS, they play WBYL in HS gyms / field houses. Typically 4 games going on at once. I sit on bleachers 3-4 feet away from another parent. We're all masked up (players too) and we've been doing it since November.
There's easily 500 people in there with players / coaches / refs / parents and next team up.
Given that I do that every weekend, I'm left to wonder why we're not seeing more fans at MU / Bucks games.
And I would definitely keep a no concession rule to ensure masks stay on 100%.
I believe that you're doing everything properly. But, I'm guessing that while you don't see the spread but it may be happening regardless.
Maybe the Bucks / MU realize that if they allow fans in there is an increased chance that their bottom line gets hurt by a pause.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 29, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
Maybe the Bucks / MU realize that if they allow fans in there is an increased chance that their bottom line gets hurt by a pause.
While the bottom line would be hurt by a pause, it sure would be helped by ticket sales, parking, and concessions. You can bet they'll do it as soon as they're convinced it can be done safely.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 23, 2021, 05:50:47 PM
I'd rather contract COVID than watch this game in person
Well done.
Why does the team, which spends most every waking moment with each other, social distance from each other on the bench with masks on for two hours every 3 to 4 days? Seems like a PR move.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 30, 2021, 12:34:27 PM
Why does the team, which spends most every waking moment with each other, social distance from each other on the bench with masks on for two hours every 3 to 4 days? Seems like a PR move.
They're following the state and city guidelines. Seems odd to assert doing what we're all supposed to be doing is a PR move.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 30, 2021, 12:34:27 PM
Why does the team, which spends most every waking moment with each other, social distance from each other on the bench with masks on for two hours every 3 to 4 days? Seems like a PR move.
The whole team huddles up during time outs as well so seems like its maybe over the top a bit. Just Oklahoma game. Most players and coaches on sidelines werent wearing masks 90% of the time. There's no consistency with most teams doing this.Players/coaches take em off all the time. I cant imagine it preventing much if anything.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2021, 12:39:49 PM
They're following the state and city guidelines. Seems odd to assert doing what we're all supposed to be doing is a PR move.
I mean if they were really following them would they be playing at all?
Quote from: Johnny B on January 30, 2021, 01:24:23 PM
I mean if they were really following them would they be playing at all?
That's fair. I think the universities are doing what they can to keep sports sustainable with testing and masking as much as possible to be as safe as they can while continuing to play. But the idea that they're wearing masks on the sidelines as a PR stunt just flies in the face of what everyone is supposed to be doing.
I am glad MU has not done the fake cardboard fans in the stands thing! Some schools practically have the entire lower section filled in, I mean how much money is being wasted on this????
Quote from: Warrior1969 on January 30, 2021, 04:27:48 PM
I am glad MU has not done the fake cardboard fans in the stands thing! Some schools practically have the entire lower section filled in, I mean how much money is being wasted on this????
Some schools sell a "seat" and you get your picture on a cardboard cutout. So they're probably making money.
Yeah these are fundraisers. Likely Marquette doesn't do it because they'd have to take them out and put them away regularly.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/turnto10.com/amp/news/local/providence-college-offers-fan-a-chance-to-be-a-cutout-at-games
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2021, 12:39:49 PM
They're following the state and city guidelines. Seems odd to assert doing what we're all supposed to be doing is a PR move.
Do they social distance and wear masks with each other at practice? At breakfast/lunch/dinner?
At team meetings?
At videotape meetings?
Of course not. So they are all social distancing on the bench.....until the timeout....then they put their arms around each other. So, which is it? Again, seems odd.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 30, 2021, 08:15:05 PM
Do they social distance and wear masks with each other at practice? At breakfast/lunch/dinner?
At team meetings?
At videotape meetings?
Of course not. So they are all social distancing on the bench.....until the timeout....then they put their arms around each other. So, which is it? Again, seems odd.
I would assume they are wearing masks at team meetings, videotape meetings, in dining halls before and after eating, etc.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2021, 12:39:49 PM
They're following the state and city guidelines. Seems odd to assert doing what we're all supposed to be doing is a PR move.
So players/coaches can wear a mask on the sidelines if they choose.
They can stay 6 feet until there is a TO and then they can chest bump and hug one another.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 30, 2021, 08:15:05 PM
Do they social distance and wear masks with each other at practice? At breakfast/lunch/dinner?
At team meetings?
At videotape meetings?
Of course not. So they are all social distancing on the bench.....until the timeout....then they put their arms around each other. So, which is it? Again, seems odd.
I would imagine the answer to all of those is yes except for while eating. I see no logic in your unfounded assertions other than perhaps you choose not to mask yourself and thus assume everyone behaves as you do.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 31, 2021, 11:15:59 AM
I would imagine the answer to all of those is yes except for while eating. I see no logic in your unfounded assertions other than perhaps you choose not to mask yourself and thus assume everyone behaves as you do.
Not sure where you would get that from?
No, I'm a masker.
I'm trying to understand the logic as to why a group of men that live in close proximity to one another seemingly every waking moment......would then sit 6' from each other.....until tip off.
Then no more social distancing and not a lot of masks.
My point is why social distance the bench....what are you trying to achieve?
I get that because I don't understand why you'd assume they automatically have bad habits when outside public view when we see them masked and distanced for the most part on the bench.
I guess we'll never know how good their compliance is, but it generally seems like the staff and members take this seriously on the sidelines and off the court (based on a lack of in-season COVID breaks) so no reason for me to assume otherwise.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 31, 2021, 11:28:40 AM
I get that because I don't understand why you'd assume they automatically have bad habits when outside public view when we see them masked and distanced for the most part on the bench.
I guess we'll never know how good their compliance is, but it generally seems like the staff and members take this seriously on the sidelines and off the court (based on a lack of in-season COVID breaks) so no reason for me to assume otherwise.
It's not about bad habits. It's about logic.
Should they social distance on the bench OR should they not social distance and chest bump, shake hands, and hug each other? And when the timeout is over....go back to social distancing again.
If it's the latter (which it is), then why the former?
Right now they are doing both...which is illogical.
I mean, in terms of viral load, it's not illogical. It isn't ideal, but with the low population in a large building like the Fiserv, you will have less spread than you do in a video meeting or smaller, more enclosed space. And it's extended time periods that are most dangerous, so while you do want to minimize contact, having a small instance of contact then going back to social distancing afterwards is a better course than having long-term instances of contact.
It's not ideal, nothing about playing basketball in a pandemic is, but I think they've displayed relatively good habits thus far, and our lack of game cancellations on our own part would support that.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 31, 2021, 12:06:22 PM
I mean, in terms of viral load, it's not illogical. It isn't ideal, but with the low population in a large building like the Fiserv, you will have less spread than you do in a video meeting or smaller, more enclosed space. And it's extended time periods that are most dangerous, so while you do want to minimize contact, having a small instance of contact then going back to social distancing afterwards is a better course than having long-term instances of contact.
It's not ideal, nothing about playing basketball in a pandemic is, but I think they've displayed relatively good habits thus far, and our lack of game cancellations on our own part would support that.
Meh, a lot about the cancellations is pure and simple luck. Many, many teams, especially in the Big East have been victims of bad luck after a lot of their games have gotten cancelled, not due to internal positive cases and/or exposure, but because of the teams that they have played had cases/exposure.
The set-up and look is both for PR and guidelines (many of the guidelines, in itself, are for public reassurance too). In the NFL for example, which is a different situation, but every single member of the teams get tested and have to be negative before a contest and after a contest. If all of the players/coaches are negative, then there is little reason for coaches to be fined for not wearing masks on the sidelines. For college basketball, the players are literally scrimmaging each other daily at practices without masks, so the optical presentation of separating them on TV might very well be following guidelines, but also don't really make sense when each of the players are exposing themselves to each other every day.
At this point, between vaccines rolling out, contact tracing applications, masks, social distancing and the elimination of lines for concessions, there is no reason that Marquette, or any college program, could not have limited fan attendance (especially when many states are allowing for it).
Some fans in the stands for the March 6 Xavier game?
https://www.fox6now.com/sports/marquette-milwaukee-bucks-fiserv-forum-fans
Any news on a Rescheduling of the Georgetown at Marquette Home Game
Bucks submit plan to allow limited fans inside Fiserv Forum 3000 to 5000
There will be up to 250 friends and family at Creighton Saturday per JSOnline.
For reference; states that have fans attending sporting events have some of the highest outbreaks and deaths in the country. I am probably over-analyzing things though.
Ewe ar, dip yo toes in da h2o. Gotta start sumwead, aina?