No brainer.
He's able
Make that 6 wins. 6 different studs.
This one as easy as it gets.
I can't remember the last time Marquette came back from a deficit like that. Absolutely amazing and didn't expect it. Could not be happier for Cain. He deserved a game like that.
Jamal Cain
Jamal. Though honestly, no one deserves it after that turd.
Jamal Cain
Great night for Cain.
Jamal.
But shout-out to Symir. Probably his best game of the season, even if it's not in the box score. He ran the offense for a good 5-6 minutes after Carton went down and was a major part of us breaking into that lead.
En fuego tonight. 10-15 from the field, 4-5 from three.
Definitely Cain, though Kobys block was the key play of the game
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
Jamal. Though honestly, no one deserves it after that turd.
Why would Jamal not deserve it after 25 points on 10/15 and 4/5 from 3?
Quote from: BLM on January 02, 2021, 08:41:30 PM
Why would Jamal not deserve it after 25 points on 10/15 and 4/5 from 3?
Apparently you didn't watch how the team played.
Quote from: BLM on January 02, 2021, 08:41:30 PM
Why would Jamal not deserve it after 25 points on 10/15 and 4/5 from 3?
Yeah, strange comment. Literally carried the team to overcome an 18 point deficit.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
Jamal. Though honestly, no one deserves it after that turd.
Come on Brew, if you're going to knock em for the first half, you gotta praise them for the second. Ended up 1 point short of covering. High ceiling, low floor.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2021, 08:40:26 PM
Definitely Cain, though Kobys block was the key play of the game
Don't get me wrong. Kobys hustle there was amazing and probably gave some guys a boost seeing him work his ass of. But they ended up with a 3 on that possession alone.
I think Jamal continuing to answer Gtown to keep us around 10 and then getting the and 1 to cut it to 7(finally getting us over the hump) was the real shift.
We were in control from there.
Jamal
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2021, 08:42:35 PM
Come on Brew, if you're going to knock em for the first half, you gotta praise them for the second. Ended up 1 point short of covering. High ceiling, low floor.
We didn't win, Georgetown lost. Sorry, but this was an indefensible performance. We were terrible and the only saving grace was that Georgetown somehow managed to be worse.
Cain, he doesn't get enough credit.... nice job!
Koby's hustle play was nice!
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:42:20 PM
Apparently you didn't watch how the team played.
Issue is that Jamal himself had a game that was stud worthy no matter what.
This wasnt some game where we barely survived and we had to pick from a pile of bad-average games. He was elite tonight.
There have been games in the past(mostly vs cupcakes) were we simply survive and its almost best to take the win and move on. But we had a true stud tonight.
Jamal of course, but Koby's hustle play lit the fire.
Jamal. He's easily been the most surprising player to me this season. Not sure what I expected, but he has far exceeded it. Hope he keeps it up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:44:54 PM
We didn't win, Georgetown lost. Sorry, but this was an indefensible performance. We were terrible and the only saving grace was that Georgetown somehow managed to be worse.
Lol. Have some ice water or something and celebrate Jamal Cain's performance.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:44:54 PM
We didn't win, Georgetown lost. Sorry, but this was an indefensible performance. We were terrible and the only saving grace was that Georgetown somehow managed to be worse.
You seem quite fun at parties
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:44:54 PM
We didn't win, Georgetown lost. Sorry, but this was an indefensible performance. We were terrible and the only saving grace was that Georgetown somehow managed to be worse.
Comments like this make Scoop insufferable. Don't be that guy.
I've wanted to see a more successful Jamal for a while. This season he has been a bright spot.
Jamal SOTG
Jamal.
Brew is right.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:44:54 PM
We didn't win, Georgetown lost. Sorry, but this was an indefensible performance. We were terrible and the only saving grace was that Georgetown somehow managed to be worse.
The first 5 turnovers, yes. The second half, we upped pressure on d and forced those turnovers. Wojo made the gutsy call to keep McEwen, Theo, and Carton on the bench. During the game I thought he waited too long but was wrong. Wasn't Wojo not riding the hot hand one of your knocks on him?
We wouldn't have looked so bad if anyone besides Cain could hit an open shot. Coaching got us open shots in the first half that no one could hit.
There would be a mutiny if it is not Cain
Jamal.
Apparently once you start drinking that "Nojo juice", it's hard to stop. First half was bad, halftime adjustments leading to a great second half were good. No such thing as a "bad" road conference win.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2021, 08:53:02 PM
The first 5 turnovers, yes. The second half, we upped pressure on d and forced those turnovers. Wojo made the gutsy call to keep McEwen, Theo, and Carton on the bench. During the game I thought he waited too long but was wrong. Wasn't Wojo not riding the hot hand one of your knocks on him?
The first five when we built a 4-2 lead? Or when they airmailed passes out of bounds later?
I hate that this is how I feel after a win, but Georgetown gift wrapped this and we still barely escaped. You cite the spread, it's only that low because we've been so atrocious coming into this.
There's no defense for this defense. The offense is offensive. And it took facing a god awful roster for us to escape with a desperation win in the final minute.
I stand by Jamal as SOTG but the team performance as not deserving of any praise.
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 02, 2021, 08:53:29 PM
Jamal.
Apparently once you start drinking that "Nojo juice", it's hard to stop. First half was bad, halftime adjustments leading to a great second half were good. No such thing as a "bad" road conference win.
💯!!
People complain to they're blue in the face that wojo doesn't make in game adjustments, terrible rotations, blah blah blah.
Then when he does they ignore it. Aside from Cain the whole team had an off shooting night. Wide open 3's nowhere near going in, poor free throw shooting down the stretch, Theo and Koby in foul trouble but we come back from 18 down on the road and the likely suspects can't even bring themselves to cheer for that.
This team isn't winning the BE and they're not a second weekend of the tourney team, no one expected that so i for one am happy as hell every time we scratch out a conference W no matter how ugly it is.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
The first five when we built a 4-2 lead? Or when they airmailed passes out of bounds later?
I hate that this is how I feel after a win, but Georgetown gift wrapped this and we still barely escaped. You cite the spread, it's only that low because we've been so atrocious coming into this.
There's no defense for this defense. The offense is offensive. And it took facing a god awful roster for us to escape with a desperation win in the final minute.
I stand by Jamal as SOTG but the team performance as not deserving of any praise.
Thanks for clarifying your position for a 5th time.
Cain, Cain,Cain. Sorry but when you Win there are style points within that game to be noted.
Posters have their choice on what to focus on the good or the bad. I find it hard to not smile after an immediate winning Score.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on January 02, 2021, 09:06:01 PM
Cain, Cain,Cain. Sorry but when you Win there are style points within that game to be noted.
Posters have their choice on what to focus on the good or the bad. I find it hard to not smile after an immediate winning Score.
A lot of insufferable posters as usual. We've watched Jamal for over three years and by all accounts he seems like a great guy. All smiles from me after his performance. He deserved his shot at having a game like this. Or wait, did GT just walk away and let him score every point?
Quote from: PaceArrow02 on January 02, 2021, 09:05:47 PM
Thanks for clarifying your position for a 5th time.
People keep engaging by quoting me. Sorry if some sober reality is uncomfortable for you.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
People keep engaging by quoting me. Sorry if some sober reality is uncomfortable for you.
It is for a lot of folks here tonight.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
People keep engaging by quoting me. Sorry if some sober reality is uncomfortable for you.
Your constant complaining and negativity is not reality, it's annoying.
Quote from: PaceArrow02 on January 02, 2021, 09:12:51 PM
Your constant complaining and negativity is not reality, it's annoying.
He speaks the truth about state of program under Wojo.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
People keep engaging by quoting me. Sorry if some sober reality is uncomfortable for you.
What's become uncomfortable for me is watching a small section of our fan base act like emotional high schoolers who have become so obsessed with the idea Wojo needs to go that they can't bring themselves to cheering on their team.
We were coming off a 3 game losing streak and staring an embarrassing 4th loss in a row right in the face. We rallied and won the game. Cheer for the players, be happy tonight....it's ok!
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 02, 2021, 09:14:14 PM
He speaks the truth about state of program under Wojo.
If you say so
Thank you Pace ! ! ! 8-)
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
People keep engaging by quoting me. Sorry if some sober reality is uncomfortable for you.
Im sorry brew, you've lost touch with reality. Our guys missed everything the first half. Carton biffed an uncontested layup, Elliott did too, Lewis and a Garcia were 0 for everything on open in rhythm threes. That's not bad coaching. Some of the adjustments that led to the comeback were examples of good coaching. Our team has a low floor and high ceiling. We saw both tonight.
This isn't one for Wojos highlight reel. It's also not a nail in his coffin.
Quote from: Boston Warrior on January 02, 2021, 08:45:21 PM
Cain, he doesn't get enough credit.... nice job!
Koby's hustle play was nice!
That's all you can day, nice.
Quote from: PaceArrow02 on January 02, 2021, 09:15:58 PM
What's become uncomfortable for me is watching a small section of our fan base act like emotional high schoolers who have become so obsessed with the idea Wojo needs to go that they can't bring themselves to cheering on their team.
We were coming off a 3 game losing streak and staring an embarrassing 4th loss in a row right in the face. We rallied and won the game. Cheer for the players, be happy tonight....it's ok!
Exactly. I have respected Brew for a long time on here—great as constant insight.
Dirty, struggling, ugly wins are wins. That is the name of the game.
To be of the spirit as to not give the stupid fuckin SOTG to our actual STOG....who we needed in a desperate game is bizarre.
Ironically, probably the biggest STOG this year.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2021, 09:21:02 PM
Im sorry brew, you've lost touch with reality. Our guys missed everything the first half. Carton biffed an uncontested layup, Elliott did too, Lewis and a Garcia were 0 for everything on open in rhythm threes. That's not bad coaching. Some of the adjustments that led to the comeback were examples of good coaching. Our team has a low floor and high ceiling. We saw both tonight.
This isn't one for Wojos highlight reel. It's also not a nail in his coffin.
Fools gold after the late February win over Georgetown last season. Let's see how many people fall for it this year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
People keep engaging by quoting me. Sorry if some sober reality is uncomfortable for you.
The sober reality is that we won the game. It wasn't pretty, but stop acting like you are owed something beautiful every game. They sucked for 30 minutes of the game, yet fought like hell and pulled out a win. Sorry if that's not good enough for you and the other mopes.
Quote from: PaceArrow02 on January 02, 2021, 09:15:58 PM
What's become uncomfortable for me is watching a small section of our fan base act like emotional high schoolers who have become so obsessed with the idea Wojo needs to go that they can't bring themselves to cheering on their team.
We were coming off a 3 game losing streak and staring an embarrassing 4th loss in a row right in the face. We rallied and won the game. Cheer for the players, be happy tonight....it's ok!
You think I like watching the state of our program? You think I like that we are probably the at best 6th best program in our league, behind not just Nova but SHU, Creighton, Providence, and Xavier?
I've put a lot of personal time into Marquette basketball. I've put a lot of money into Marquette basketball. And I've put more love than I can measure into the program. And for the past 7 years, it's been a rolling, sinking letdown.
I wish I could still look at this through rose colored glasses, but every year it's a combination of underachievement and excuses and I'm sick of it.
You think I like being negative? I'm one of the most optimistic people I know, and the levels of pessimism this era has forced upon us is neither familiar nor comfortable. And what I saw tonight wasn't something that made me happy. We barely beat a team with a buy-level roster. I'm gonna hold off on popping the champagne.
"Woe is me, I've invested my own time into a collegiate basketball program, so that gives me the right to say that there was no SOTG even though there was very clearly was." Grow up, give Jamal his dues. This is a young man that has been nothing but class for the program, and is another great example of player development that the program has. If you want to sh!t on Wojo, go do it in one of the designated threads, they're not hard to find.
Quote from: Its DJOver on January 02, 2021, 09:33:18 PM
"Woe is me, I've invested my own time into a collegiate basketball program, so that gives me the right to say that there was no SOTG even though there was very clearly was." Grow up, give Jamal his dues. This is a young man that has been nothing but class for the program, and is another great example of player development that the program has. If you want to sh!t on Wojo, go do it in one of the designated threads, they're not hard to find.
Literally the first thing I said in my first post in the thread was Jamal. Since then, I've responded when responded to. Sort of like how you are perpetuating this now.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:29:10 PM
You think I like watching the state of our program? You think I like that we are probably the at best 6th best program in our league, behind not just Nova but SHU, Creighton, Providence, and Xavier?
I've put a lot of personal time into Marquette basketball. I've put a lot of money into Marquette basketball. And I've put more love than I can measure into the program. And for the past 7 years, it's been a rolling, sinking letdown.
I wish I could still look at this through rose colored glasses, but every year it's a combination of underachievement and excuses and I'm sick of it.
You think I like being negative? I'm one of the most optimistic people I know, and the levels of pessimism this era has forced upon us is neither familiar nor comfortable. And what I saw tonight wasn't something that made me happy. We barely beat a team with a buy-level roster. I'm gonna hold off on popping the champagne.
Get a fucking grip. It's college basketball
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:29:10 PM
You think I like watching the state of our program? You think I like that we are probably the at best 6th best program in our league, behind not just Nova but SHU, Creighton, Providence, and Xavier?
I've put a lot of personal time into Marquette basketball. I've put a lot of money into Marquette basketball. And I've put more love than I can measure into the program. And for the past 7 years, it's been a rolling, sinking letdown.
I wish I could still look at this through rose colored glasses, but every year it's a combination of underachievement and excuses and I'm sick of it.
You think I like being negative? I'm one of the most optimistic people I know, and the levels of pessimism this era has forced upon us is neither familiar nor comfortable. And what I saw tonight wasn't something that made me happy. We barely beat a team with a buy-level roster. I'm gonna hold off on popping the champagne.
Do I think you like being negative...hmmm, yes.
Otherwise you would be happy we had an 18pt come from behind road victory tonight. Given your deep love and significant financial investment in the program I would assume you'd at least be happy that we won. Unless of course you just enjoy being negative 🤷♂️
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:35:24 PM
Literally the first thing I said in my first post in the thread was Jamal. Since then, I've responded when responded to. Sort of like how you are perpetuating this now.
You said no one deserves it when Jamal clearly does, sorry for reading your entire post I guess.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 02, 2021, 09:35:35 PM
Get a unnatural carnal knowledgeing grip. It's college basketball
All the more reason to not get irrationally happy over getting down 18 to the worst team in the league.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:29:10 PM
You think I like watching the state of our program? You think I like that we are probably the at best 6th best program in our league, behind not just Nova but SHU, Creighton, Providence, and Xavier?
I've put a lot of personal time into Marquette basketball. I've put a lot of money into Marquette basketball. And I've put more love than I can measure into the program. And for the past 7 years, it's been a rolling, sinking letdown.
I wish I could still look at this through rose colored glasses, but every year it's a combination of underachievement and excuses and I'm sick of it.
You think I like being negative? I'm one of the most optimistic people I know, and the levels of pessimism this era has forced upon us is neither familiar nor comfortable. And what I saw tonight wasn't something that made me happy. We barely beat a team with a buy-level roster. I'm gonna hold off on popping the champagne.
Speak for yourself. You choose to be negative. Relax a bit. MU hasn't won a championship since 1977. Nor have they gotten to the final four since 2003. No matter who the coach is and what teams he builds it's always going to be a long ride of ups and downs. Such is life. I'm not part of said "us" that falls into a state of misery and pessimism. Maybe it would be healthier to remove yourself a bit if it's causing such distress.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:36:41 PM
All the more reason to not get irrationally happy over getting down 18 to the worst team in the league.
Who is happy about that? We won. That's enough.
Seriously, maybe you need to take a break. Focus on something else in your life. Get some perspective.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on January 02, 2021, 08:37:17 PM
Jamal.
But shout-out to Symir. Probably his best game of the season, even if it's not in the box score. He ran the offense for a good 5-6 minutes after Carton went down and was a major part of us breaking into that lead.
I agree—although,not sure if Sywas my pick. But I said during that run....both DJ and Koby are on the bench....do you ride them with5 minutes to go?
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 09:36:41 PM
All the more reason to not get irrationally happy over getting down 18 to the worst team in the league.
That's the thing brew, no one is irrationally happy over this. I haven't seen one person singing Wojos or the teams praises beyond their fight in the second half.
There are people irrationally angry over a win that was one point short of the spread.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2021, 08:42:20 PM
Apparently you didn't watch how the team played.
I did watch. Jamal was an absolute stud. I'm not sure what you watched if you think Jamal was not a stud tonight.
Georgetown with five turnovers in the final 3:36, shoots 0 for 8 from three down the stretch when all it needed was some good two pointers inside.
Sadly, this has become commonplace in the Ewing era.
Very happy for Jamal.
Cain.
Huge three late!
It's called Stud of the Game.
It's not called Marquette Didn't Play Well For Most of the Game So I'll Use This Thread to Beyotch About Wojo Because Beyotching About Wojo In the 50 Wojo Sucks Threads Is Not Enough For Me And Even If There Most Certainly Was an Obviously Deserving Stud of the Game I'll Say Nobody Deserved It Because Again Wojo Sucks ... of the Game.
Brew's not a negative poster here. By far. Give him a break. But tonight is for celebrating a victory along with a studly performance by Jamal. I'm sure a new nojo thread will pop up tomorrow for the big picture stuff.
Rocky searching for a Jamal pic he never thought he would need.
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Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 02, 2021, 10:43:32 PM
Rocky searching for a Jamal pic he never thought he would need.
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Post win, me logging into scoop:
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It's kinda sad that this SOTG thread only has 3 pages, half of which are scolding Brew, while the stupid $5 Pitcher thread is at 6 pages and counting.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on January 02, 2021, 10:04:05 PM
Georgetown with five turnovers in the final 3:36, shoots 0 for 8 from three down the stretch when all it needed was some good two pointers inside.
Sadly, this has become commonplace in the Ewing era.
Thankfully, we figured out the contrary and did enough in the 2ns Half.
I might be wrong but I think Cain was 8/9 in the second half. And if so, the only miss was him getting a great put back attempt that just didnt go down.
Really, really strong half.
Life is too short to be upset when we win, and even more upset when we lose.
I am happy because we won. And I am thrilled for Jamal because he played a great game.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 02, 2021, 11:31:42 PM
Life is too short to be upset when we win, and even more upset when we lose.
I am happy because we won. And I am thrilled for Jamal because he played a great game.
You and 82 are the winners in this thread.
Brew is the loser, but I'll chalk it up to frustration. He is a always a good fan and poster (except tonight). ;D
Cain
Cain...with congrats to a big emotional booster to McEwen's block.
Cain. Well done.
Of course , Jamal. Terrific night, We would not be talking about SOTG if not for Jamal.
Yes, leadership has to come from the top. By that I mean the seniors and by that I mean from the bottom up. The coach can model the way, provide the opportunity for success, encourage the heart, but then people like Jamal have to lead. Jamal is a winner, a true leader.
In the post game interview he also demonstrated a characteristic of all the leaders I have known, humility. The humility of the generals I have known is amazing. Ambition, education, experience yes, but humility above all. Not at all like the Hollywood John Wayne characterization.
Some people around here are expecting our guys and coach to be Rambo. Real winners are people like Jamal.
This was hard game to watch, but coming back from an 18 point deficit feels better than losing in a blow out. I am not optimistic about our chances against UCONN on Tuesday. Hope I'm wrong.
Actually, I'm very optimistic about our chances against UCONN. Our level of play has seemingly decreased game by game, but I'm thinking this kinda game against Georgetown is just what the doctor ordered. It's not like this team is not talented. We most definitely can and will beat the Huskies.
Quote from: OffTheGlass on January 03, 2021, 07:41:12 AM
Actually, I'm very optimistic about our chances against UCONN. Our level of play has seemingly decreased game by game, but I'm thinking this kinda game against Georgetown is just what the doctor ordered. It's not like this team is not talented. We most definitely can and will beat the Huskies.
Hope you are right. Many times ugly wins precede a run of several wins in a row. Glad we got it. When everything is counted up at the end of the year that could be one of those wins that will help our case for the post season rather than hurt it (see prior years where losing to DePaul caused us to miss the tournament).
Team sleepwalked through first 30 minutes, lucky to win. Cain was great, and a performance like his is SOG worthy any time, though. Easy choice.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on January 03, 2021, 08:24:29 AM
Hope you are right. Many times ugly wins precede a run of several wins in a row. Glad we got it. When everything is counted up at the end of the year that could be one of those wins that will help our case for the post season rather than hurt it (see prior years where losing to DePaul caused us to miss the tournament).
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Unfortunately for us.....Nova is after Uconn so several in a row is unlikely. But Uconn is a big one, we can definitely win. That gets us back to 3-3 which is probably 3-4 after Nova. But then we have a lot of winnable games coming up.
Just do not want to be 2-4 staring down NOva.
Just a brutal box score. There is only one person in America who is going to want to remember this game.
Hats off to JC for what we hope is a confidence-building performance.
However, everyone on MU not named Jamal Cain shot 30.8% FG (15-49) and 5.9% 3pt FG (1-17) in a basketball game that Marquette won.
Anyone with easy access to the numbers know when the last W with a worse eFG% was?
Quote from: barfolomew on January 03, 2021, 10:33:32 AM
Just a brutal box score. There is only one person in America who is going to want to remember this game.
Hats off to JC for what we hope is a confidence-building performance.
However, everyone on MU not named Jamal Cain shot 30.8% FG (15-49) and 5.9% 3pt FG (1-17) in a basketball game that Marquette won.
Anyone with easy access to the numbers know when the last W with a worse eFG% was?
Last season Nova W had a worse team eFG%.
Impressed by Cain able to play 345 minutes in this game. Clearly stud worthy. ;)
Quote from: Freeway on January 03, 2021, 12:16:18 PM
Impressed by Cain able to play 345 minutes in this game.
If he hreally had, we would have covered.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 02, 2021, 10:40:42 PM
Brew's not a negative poster here. By far.
Brew is down on Wojo (which doesn't stand out on this board if you look at the Projo poll) but he is still in touch with reality and is not a one-trick pony.
In fightin' amongst the woke? Priceless, aina?
Quote from: Freeway on January 03, 2021, 12:16:18 PM
Impressed by Cain able to play 345 minutes in this game. Clearly stud worthy. ;)
We gotta give our Strength and Conditioning Coach a raise.
Quote from: Freeway on January 03, 2021, 12:16:18 PM
Impressed by Cain able to play 345 minutes in this game. Clearly stud worthy. ;)
Hah. Thanks!
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 03, 2021, 09:19:09 AM
Team sleepwalked through first 30 minutes, lucky to win. Cain was great, and a performance like his is SOG worthy any time, though. Easy choice.
We didn't make shots, but our guys never stopped playing hard. So I don't really think the team "sleepwalked," at least not the way I would define that term. To me, that suggests lack of effort, and I seriously don't believe there was a lack of effort. Most teams look bad when shooting 25%.