oooh bill walton
Guess they wouldn't let Wally wear his custom fit KN95 with the hose dangling under table
Pac12 network on comcast is brutal
Its like the channel is a stream from the internet
Trying a free trial of Vidgo. Quality is better than I expected. Close to YTTV
Theo could be on bench and he'll get a foul called on him
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 11, 2020, 08:41:33 PM
Trying a free trial of Vidgo. Quality is better than I expected. Close to YTTV
Same here. Not bad
Love the start, minus having a foul on each big man already
2 on Theo
We getting called for foul after foul.
Might have to compare to Hulu and switch
Love when Koby makes one early. Bodes well for an emotional player
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 11, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
2 on Theo
We getting called for foul after foul.
I think maybe one of the first five was a foul. And cain got fouled before bobbling the ball OB on the fast break.
Jamal looking good so far. Theo needs to sit for awhile.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 11, 2020, 08:45:18 PM
I think maybe one of the first five was a foul. And cain got fouled before bobbling the ball OB on the fast break.
The cain one looked sketchy as heck, looked like he got grabbed around the neck.
The navies are nice. Navy, white, and yellow are all big upgrades over last year. Championship blues are worse than last year.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 11, 2020, 08:43:10 PM
Same here. Not bad
Yea i agree not bad picture.. Then it got kinda blurry.. I had to make sure I wasn't having a stroke ! ! ! Then the pic got bright and clear ! ! ! Oh well ! ! ! We are watching live ! ! ! 8-)
Agressive DJ is a fun DJ
Holy crap I would rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than Bill Walton.
Quote from: PointWarrior on December 11, 2020, 08:47:49 PM
Holy crap I would rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than Bill Walton.
And then goes and waxes eloquently about Maurice Lucas.
Flop
Flop plus he threw his arms into Lewis's body first before flopping.
We are getting absolutely hosed early
The announcers need to shut up. Talking way too much. Yuk. Hideous.
Lotsa home cooking by the refs, so far ! ! ! 8-)
3 terrible possessions by koby in a row. Now they're back in the game
PG Koby <<<<<< SG Koby
Quote from: SERocks on December 11, 2020, 08:54:26 PM
The announcers need to crap up. Talking way too much. Yuk. Hideous.
The Bill Walton problem...
Quote from: guzica on December 11, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
Lotsa home cooking by the refs, so far ! ! ! 8-)
Last few minutes MU has been getting mugged with no calls. For sure. Wasn't that way early.
That was a good one on kobys "circuitous" path to MU unlike fr MU
Bad Koby tonite?
A couple of bad turnovers. Settle down and play our game. Need a Dawson.
Listening to Walton, I long for Dickey Simpson's.
Thanks for that Bill
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 11, 2020, 08:58:20 PM
Bad Koby tonite?
Lots of PG Koby tonight.
Which was my exact argument in the Sy thread.
Quote from: PointWarrior on December 11, 2020, 08:47:49 PM
Holy crap I would rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than Bill Walton.
Are you kidding me? This is pure gold!
MUC's
what the hell? listening to espn radio stream on my computer and now it states the "stream in disabled due to a live sports broadcast"
Quote from: THRILLHO on December 11, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
Are you kidding me? This is pure gold!
He really loved Big Luke, huh? Already mentioned him three times.
So.....
Any idea how I can listen to this game on the radio from outside of Milwaukee? The stream just cut out...
If not, give me some good detailed play by play analysis, ladies and gents. I'm relying on you.
https://twitter.com/rawbdesj/status/1337593332810170371?s=21
Refs wearing a pair of girls panties for masks can't see straight
Absolutely horrendous in bounds pass
3 on Theo now too.
Oso, its your time
I don't really see a path to victory in this one. We need stops to win and we're not going to get many without Lewis and Theo.
Quote from: MUCam on December 11, 2020, 09:04:06 PM
So.....
Any idea how I can listen to this game on the radio from outside of Milwaukee? The stream just cut out...
If not, give me some good detailed play by play analysis, ladies and gents. I'm relying on you.
Same thing happened to me, I am listening on UCLA radio broadcast.
https://uclabruins.com/sports/2016/8/16/live-audio.aspx
Quote from: THRILLHO on December 11, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
Are you kidding me? This is pure gold!
I mean, if you don't care about watching the current basketball game...
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 11, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
Absolutely horrendous in bounds pass
3 on Theo now too.
Oso, its your time
cain was unaware. gave up the layup and didn't help the out of bounds.
Quote from: MUCam on December 11, 2020, 09:04:06 PM
So.....
Any idea how I can listen to this game on the radio from outside of Milwaukee? The stream just cut out...
If not, give me some good detailed play by play analysis, ladies and gents. I'm relying on you.
http://www.wizistreams.club/2020/12/ucla-vs-marquette.html?m=1
Stream East.live
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 11, 2020, 09:06:34 PM
Same thing happened to me, I am listening on UCLA radio broadcast.
https://uclabruins.com/sports/2016/8/16/live-audio.aspx
Stream is back.
Thanks to everyone for the descriptive narratives in the interim. I felt like I was actually in the arena.
Garcia's playing like a freshman. Thank God he's got three more years.
Man, I thought the first six, seven minutes MU came out with an intensity and fight I hadn't seen in a while.
These last five minutes have been the exact opposite, gross decisions on MU's end, yuck.
Dj needs to attack like this every game.
The Dexter hype clearly unfounded
I have the least stress when Carton has the ball
Lotta heart on that floor right now.
I do not like Koby at point.
Dawson has got to get better down low.
And DJ has to play basically the entire second half.
We simply cannot survive him on the bench and Koby at the point. We might as well see what Perez can do cause we know Koby aint it and never will be.
Walton does a good job talking up Marquette.
Im sorry but this Home cookin' by the refs, esp when Cronin is riding their butss, is getting ridiculous ! ! ! But MU hanging tuff ! ! ! before the refs could the team out 8-)
Oso seems to actually have a handle. Not sure I'd give him point-center duties yet. But he may be able to put it on the floor and not be a liability.
Oso looks good.
Kudos to bill playing ambassador to MU
Somtimes kobe just decides no matter what im going hard to the rim. somtimes that good somtimes no.. holy hell with these fouls. Walk ons should start strecthing
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 11, 2020, 09:14:16 PM
And DJ has to play basically the entire second half.
We simply cannot survive him on the bench and Koby at the point. We might as well see what Perez can do cause we know Koby aint it and never will be.
Disagree. Don't let his body language cloud his talent. A team that lacks perimeter shooters like Marquette needs someone like Koby who can run red-hot
I'd be fine with Wojo taking a T tonight.
3 on Lewis and Theo
2 on Dawson
This is a joke
Quote from: Carl on December 11, 2020, 09:17:27 PM
Disagree. Don't let his body language cloud his talent. A team that lacks perimeter shooters like Marquette needs someone like Koby who can run red-hot
Uhhh Koby can be on the court all he wants.
He just simply cannot be the PG. And that is not an opinion.
I'd love for announcers that were paying attention to the game...
I fu kin hate when foul trouble ruins games.. jeez
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 11, 2020, 09:19:27 PM
I'd love for announcers that were paying attention to the game...
This is Walton every game. He doesnt watch
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 11, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
This is Walton every game. He doesnt watch
I have no idea why people like this.
Hate to admit it but I'm actually enjoying Bill Walton.
So, Wojo travels with that Kwik Trip cup. That's dedication.
I actually just muted the TV. SOOOO much better.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 11, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
This is Walton every game. He doesnt watch
I know. Always despised him doing games. even worse when it's my team.
With Walton, I feel like I've turned the TV down and am listening to some music. What I listening to has nothing to do with what I'm seeing.
LOL lot of violations by DG there.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 11, 2020, 09:24:12 PM
LOL lot of violations by DG there.
Stripes tried to make up all the bad calls this game at once
What a half by DJ.
All things considered down 2 is ok.
Major foul trouble. Lotta To's. Awful half from Dawson. Still in it.
Gotta hope the refs let Theo and Justin play in the 2nd half. Keep Dj in on the ball. Got a shot to pull it out.
Guys playing hard.
Thought the refs were slanting towards UCLA for the first 10 minutes but turns out it is just ineptitude.
DJ 😍😍😍
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 11, 2020, 09:24:12 PM
LOL lot of violations by DG there.
The over-and-back negates the travel, so clearly nothing to see here.
DJ is a player. He'll need to go about 19 minutes and 30 seconds this second half.
Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on December 11, 2020, 09:21:10 PM
So, Wojo travels with that Kwik Trip cup. That's dedication.
first thing in the suitcase
Anyone have a link to the stream game?
Im sorry i usually dont bitch about da refs, BUTTTT this is some very home cooking , or maybe just crappy reffing... But Cronin really riding the refs and they are nailing MU ! ! ! Happy to be only down by 2 at half ! ! !
It's amazing this is a 2 point game. 12 turnovers and 11 first half fouls. Obviously a ref show going on, MU needs to adjust. With the number of off ball fouls being called, MU has to play accordingly.
Needs to be said, Garcia has been terrible this evening. Carton is going to have to play near 20 minutes in the 2nd half.
Quote from: marqfan22 on December 11, 2020, 09:28:42 PM
Anyone have a link to the stream game?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=60907.msg1286717#msg1286717
Even the PAC-12 announcers were saying that this officiating was embarrassing.
Quote from: marqfan22 on December 11, 2020, 09:28:42 PM
Anyone have a link to the stream game?
http://www.wizistreams.club/2020/12/ucla-vs-marquette.html
Quote from: marqfan22 on December 11, 2020, 09:28:42 PM
Anyone have a link to the stream game?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ncaaBBallStreams/comments/kbfzl7/game_thread_ucla_vs_marquette_0930_pm_est/
Quote from: naginiF on December 11, 2020, 09:30:16 PM
http://www.wizistreams.club/2020/12/ucla-vs-marquette.html
im on this one as well. Best one i could find on reddit
Quote from: guzica on December 11, 2020, 09:29:07 PM
or maybe just crappy reffing...
This. Just bad all around.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 11, 2020, 09:30:03 PM
Even the PAC-12 announcers were saying that this officiating was embarrassing.
I hate Bill. But he does hate refs. Generally always. He's a fan of letting everyone play.
I'll also point out vidgo has a free trial, and the quality is great!
https://www.vidgo.com/
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 11, 2020, 09:29:41 PM
It's amazing this is a 2 point game. 12 turnovers and 11 first half fouls. Obviously a ref show going on, MU needs to adjust. With the number of off ball fouls being called, MU has to play accordingly.
Needs to be said, Garcia has been terrible this evening. Carton is going to have to play near 20 minutes in the 2nd half.
Says it all. On pace for 25 turnovers like Okla St. game. Garcia has not been good, Carton keeping hem in game.
Fouls were just on MU's wrong guys, the bigs. But turnovers the key, keep it up and trouble.
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on December 11, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
Hate to admit it but I'm actually enjoying Bill Walton.
Same here. The two are doing a great job of including Marquette and Marquette lore into the game. That being said, if I watch more than 3 PAC12/UCLA games with them I can easily see getting tired. But as a visitor, I'm entertained and impressed at their objectiveness
Was this home:home made possible purely because of the Jordan/JumpMan connection and was the announcement planned with two branded teams?
Quote from: naginiF on December 11, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Same here. The two are doing a great job of including Marquette and Marquette lore into the game. That being said, if I watch more than 3 PAC12/UCLA games with them I can easily see getting tired. But as a visitor, I'm entertained and impressed at their objectiveness
Great if I were watching a documentary of the 2 programs. Walton didn't even know the OK St. mascot
https://buffstreams.tv/live-marquette
Quote from: nyg on December 11, 2020, 09:33:00 PM
Says it all. On pace for 25 turnovers like Okla St. game. Garcia has not been good, Carton keeping hem in game.
Fouls were just on MU's wrong guys, the bigs. But turnovers the key, keep it up and trouble.
Agree. Carton good. Garcia plays like a freshman.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 11, 2020, 09:35:48 PM
Great if I were watching a documentary of the 2 programs. Walton didn't even know the OK St. mascot
He also stopped a 4 minute tangent to go on a tangent about Tyger Campbell not even being in the game yet.
Kid started and scored their second basket. He was just talking literally non stop for the first 5 minutes.
Dawson is playing hard. His shots aren't falling but all except one have looked good.
He was left alone to handle the paint for a large stretch after both Theo and Lewis went out and he looks overmatched a bit, but he's a frosh and he's giving it his all down there.
Oso looked good, serviceable. This is why I never understand why Wojo gives guys like him 0 minutes in cupcake games- guys foul and you get thrown into the fire, any reps would've helped
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 11, 2020, 09:35:48 PM
Great if I were watching a documentary of the 2 programs. Walton didn't even know the OK St. mascot
fair but a) he 'sorta' knew what a Sooner was, b) stuff like the shout out to the MU info guy makes him likable and c) he did ask when Mike Brey wasn't complaining so.....
Quote from: DoctorV on December 11, 2020, 09:40:28 PM
Dawson is playing hard. His shots aren't falling but all except one have looked good.
He was left alone to handle the paint for a large stretch after both Theo and Lewis went out and he looks overmatched a bit, but he's a frosh and he's giving it his all down there.
Oso looked good, serviceable. This is why I never understand why Wojo gives guys like him 0 minutes in cupcake games- guys foul and you get thrown into the fire, any reps would've helped
The issue is Dawsons misses int he paint and at the rim are becoming an early trend. He just biffed another bunny.
Hes gotta improve big time on his strength in the paint and getting the ball to drop. The skills are all there
3 on Koby now.
Definitely cant have him at PG in foul trouble, hes liable for charge at any moment
Great play between Theo and Dawson
They get to many wide open looks
Seems like only Theo capable or willing to make the entry pass to DG on the seal.
THeo gets absolutely mugged. WHat a joke
Dex needs lotta work
Justin getting and 1s on awful inital shots tonight lol
#refshow
...except when theo is dunking
Dex gets an assist on that right?
15-5 is the TO's right now.
Thats the difference. We are scoring pretty much whenever we want if we aint turning it over
crap! Not KM on point. Check score.
Very entertaining game. Looks like two good teams just going back and forth at each other
Ucla never turns it over eh
Quote from: DoctorV on December 11, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
Very entertaining game. Looks like two good teams just going back and forth at each other
Agreed! (esp now that I'm not listening)
Quote from: naginiF on December 11, 2020, 09:35:41 PM
Was this home:home made possible purely because of the Jordan/JumpMan connection and was the announcement planned with two branded teams?
UCLA just announced jumpman this week, so I don't think so.
Justin should have gone straight up.
If Walton were an NBA Gm he might draft Lewis #1 overall
We really gotta stop with the offensive foul TO's smh
Such a baby foul
These foul calls are simply a travesty
Turnovers may be the diffrence between W and L tonight
Oso deserves to play more.
Lot of interesting lineups tonight.
We simply cannot go 3 possessions without a TO
OMG stop with the fouls.
ucla bought to run away with this one, methinks
What a sequence. Phantom on Greg, no offense, and another BS call.
MU is a pretty good team this year. But not a 3pt team!
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 11, 2020, 10:17:20 PM
ucla bought to run away with this one, methinks
Yeah. That call on Koby was a big swing. Not real upset with how we've played today. It's been an odd game.
Big miss by my favorite player Jamal. Could have been down 1, now 6
Finally wojo calls timeout.
TOs will haunt this team all season, just like many have under wojo.
Also, ball movement/passing has been terribly lacking.
Feels like ball game. Good defense for the most part. a few to many breakdowns late in the shot clock giving them open looks. Missed alot of open 3s. Credit ucla for barely turning it over. MU way to many turnovers. decent effort
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on December 11, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Finally wojo calls timeout.
It's basically been a one possession game until that point...When did you want him to call one?
Dawson not so good tonight. Need to close with Justin and Theo tonight.
5min left. Not over at all
UCLA out of bounds and they said UCLA saved the ball ugh
How did the ref not call out of bounds? He should've been looking at one thing and one thing only in that situation. Impossible for him to miss that.
DJ OK?
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 11, 2020, 10:24:27 PM
DJ OK?
Wondering the same.
And couldn't Wojo have protested the OOBs?
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 11, 2020, 10:21:21 PM
It's basically been a one possession game until that point...When did you want him to call one?
When Marquette makes two turn overs in a row.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 11, 2020, 10:24:57 PM
Wondering the same.
And couldn't Wojo have protested the OOBs?
Protest how?
Quote from: BLM on December 11, 2020, 10:24:09 PM
How did the ref not call out of bounds? He should've been looking at one thing and one thing only in that situation. Impossible for him to miss that.
Some very very bad calls. But we need to put it in the hoop. Let's Gooooooo Marquette!
he was looking out onto the court, not at the players foot on the line, right next to him! ! !
18-6 TOs. Ouch!
Quote from: BM1090 on December 11, 2020, 10:25:17 PM
Protest how?
I guess only on stopping the clock the coach can challenge who it was off of?
Cain needs to hit those. Too many turnovers. Too many missed opportunities. Too many bad calls going against us.
these blocks are kinda embarrsing.
Needed that Jamal 3. Damn
have we hit a 3 in the 2nd half?
This loss stings for some reason
Not thrilled that Justin isnt on the floor.
Three of last six possessions have been blocked shots. The Cain three was halfway down and that hurt.
Too in love with the 3. Need to go inside more with this team.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 11, 2020, 10:34:28 PM
Not thrilled that Justin isnt on the floor.
He appears not too thrilled either.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 11, 2020, 10:32:37 PM
have we hit a 3 in the 2nd half?
This loss stings for some reason
No 3's made in 2nd half.
6 pts in final 9 min of game is really bad
Yup, Cain missed 3 hurt. Halfway down.
6 pts. in the last 8 min. - not gonna do it.
Did Lewis do something? I don't understand why he never went back in. Heck, he's had a mask on since the under 4 tv timeout.
Garcia is the very definition of basketball soft. Holy goodness
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 11, 2020, 10:36:43 PM
Did Lewis do something? I don't understand why he never went back in. Heck, he's had a mask on since the under 4 tv timeout.
Positive test?
Even though the announcers were pro UCLA Bill Walton even said Lewis got 3 of the cheapest fouls he ever saw. And the foul that fouled out Kobe was not a foul. But when you shoot 0 for 11 on 3s in the 2nd half you do not usually win.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on December 11, 2020, 10:39:58 PM
Even though the announcers were pro UCLA Bill Walton even said Lewis got 3 of the cheapest fouls he ever saw. And the foul that fouled out Kobe was not a foul. But when you shoot 0 for 9 on 3s in the 2nd half you do not usually win.
You don't win often win turning it over 18 times
Quote from: mumi27 on December 11, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
Garcia is the very definition of basketball soft. Holy goodness
True Lewis would of probably grabbed those rebounds Garcia did not at the end.
My god offense has a long way to go. 3pt shooting practice time. Just brutal to watch. abysmal 2nd half
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 10:42:09 PM
You don't win often win turning it over 18 times
True and Marquette ended 0 for 11 in the 2nd Half on 3s too.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 10:42:09 PM
You don't win often win turning it over 18 times
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on December 11, 2020, 10:39:58 PM
Even though the announcers were pro UCLA Bill Walton even said Lewis got 3 of the cheapest fouls he ever saw. And the foul that fouled out Kobe was not a foul. But when you shoot 0 for 11 on 3s in the 2nd half you do not usually win.
That's the story of this one:
- can't shoot in the second half
- 18 turnovers
- cheap foul trouble
Pack it up, boys, not much to talk about here
Quote from: mumi27 on December 11, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
Garcia is the very definition of basketball soft. Holy goodness
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Looks good against the cupcakes.
Carton hit 2 FTs at the 12:13 mark to put his total at 18. He didn't take another shot until there was under a minute left. I though for sure he'd set a new career high (19 at Minnesota last year) but instead he was erased.
That and Wojo never putting Lewis back in may have been the difference.
I don't care that he had 4 fouls, once the UCLA lead hit 5, Lewis should have immediately been back in. If he picks up his fifth, so be it, but to not put him back in the last 8 minutes (when MU was frozen offensively) is beyond perplexing. I really don't get it at all.
Woj coaches scared when it comes to fouls. Has since he's been here.
Keep in mind that there has been loads of discussion here about how solid MU's defense has been.
UCLA's is similar.
Yes, MU had a dry spell, but give UCLA credit.
MU's defense wasn't as strong in the last 8 minutes as it needed to be.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 11, 2020, 10:49:01 PM
Carton hit 2 FTs at the 12:13 mark to put his total at 18. He didn't take another shot until there was under a minute left. I though for sure he'd set a new career high (19 at Minnesota last year) but instead he was erased.
That and Wojo never putting Lewis back in may have been the difference.
Didn't see the game, so it sounds like another butcher job by Wojo. Not getting Carton shots down stretch when he was on and recurring theme of turnovers. Just can't stand the guy.
The game was tied 56-56.
Then MU scored 4 points in the game's final 6:46.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 11, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
I don't care that he had 4 fouls, once the UCLA lead hit 5, Lewis should have immediately been back in. If he picks up his fifth, so be it, but to not put him back in the last 8 minutes (when MU was frozen offensively) is beyond perplexing. I really don't get it at all.
Have you watched MUBB for the past 7 years? The coach isn't very good
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 10:52:48 PM
Didn't see the game, so it sounds like another butcher job by Wojo. Not getting Carton shots down stretch when he was on and recurring theme of turnovers. Just can't stand the guy.
The turnovers were bad, especially in the first. Tyger Campbell was really playing aggressive on DJ late, which seemed to take him out of his game a bit. He had created for himself all night but UCLA took that away from him in the last 12 minutes and we really didn't have a Plan B.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 11, 2020, 10:56:00 PM
The turnovers were bad, especially in the first. Tyger Campbell was really playing aggressive on DJ late, which seemed to take him out of his game a bit. He had created for himself all night but UCLA took that away from him in the last 12 minutes and we really didn't have a Plan B.
Wojo didn't have a plan B. He never does.
Thanks for sharing insights Brew for those that couldn't watch it.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 10:52:48 PM
Didn't see the game, so it sounds like another butcher job by Wojo. Not getting Carton shots down stretch when he was on and recurring theme of turnovers. Just can't stand the guy.
Lol
Should have ended your post there
"I didn't watch the game but I know it's Wojo's fault!"
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 11, 2020, 10:56:00 PM
The turnovers were bad, especially in the first. Tyger Campbell was really playing aggressive on DJ late, which seemed to take him out of his game a bit. He had created for himself all night but UCLA took that away from him in the last 12 minutes and we really didn't have a Plan B.
Campbell was great with 9 assists and was in Cartons face in second half. MU held their two stars, Juzang and Smith in check, but it was Jaquez and Bernard who stepped it up. Hill also blocked those three MU shots in last four minutes.
Quote from: BLM on December 11, 2020, 10:59:31 PM
"I didn't watch the game but I know it's Wojo's fault!"
Tell me how my conclusions are wrong Wojo apologist
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:03:07 PM
Tell me how my conclusions are wrong Wojo apologist
If you've read my posts you know where I stand on our HC. That said, this wasn't on him. I didn't like him sitting Lewis the last 9 minutes, but his hands were tied at the guard spot. Koby was bad. Greg can't dribble. Once they took DJ away it was hard to get good offense. But yet, if Jamal's three doesn't rim out, they're down 2 with 90 seconds left.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:03:07 PM
Tell me how my conclusions are wrong Wojo apologist
No. No. Tell us more about how you have it all figured out.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 11, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
I don't care that he had 4 fouls, once the UCLA lead hit 5, Lewis should have immediately been back in. If he picks up his fifth, so be it, but to not put him back in the last 8 minutes (when MU was frozen offensively) is beyond perplexing. I really don't get it at all.
+1000. Thought the exact same thing while watching.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 11, 2020, 11:06:27 PM
If you've read my posts you know where I stand on our HC. That said, this wasn't on him. I didn't like him sitting Lewis the last 9 minutes, but his hands were tied at the guard spot. Koby was bad. Greg can't dribble. Once they took DJ away it was hard to get good offense. But yet, if Jamal's three doesn't rim out, they're down 2 with 90 seconds left.
I still think Lewis should've went back in. Garcia just isn't strong enough down low yet and UCLA exploited that. But agree that Koby was off and DJ was our only effective guard.
Most of the game it felt like a competitive contest that someone would have to lose, but Wojo definitely left a bullet or two in his chamber.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 11, 2020, 11:07:00 PM
No. No. Tell us more about how you have it all figured out.
We've seen all this before under this guy. A first hand account is required to figure out 18 turnovers is a major problem? (Still)
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:16:04 PM
We've seen all this before under this guy. A first hand account is required to figure out 18 turnovers is a major problem? (Still)
You should probably just bow out of this one
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:03:07 PM
Tell me how my conclusions are wrong Wojo apologist
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:16:04 PM
We've seen all this before under this guy. A first hand account is required to figure out 18 turnovers is a major problem? (Still)
Turnovers were a problem, but when we committed our last turnover (~6:45 mark), we were only down 2 points. The stretch where we lost it, Wojo's strategy on offense was to try to attack downhill and win the game at the foul line. Given the foul fest the refs had been calling, and their best player of the night having 4 fouls, I was okay with the gameplan. Credit to UCLA, they played stellar D the rest of the way. Our defense was fine during the stretch but they got just enough offense to build a 5 point lead. Jamal had a WIDE open corner 3 that he makes about 50% of the time that would have cut the lead to 2 with about 1:30 left. Rims out and UCLA gets a cheap foul call (Koby's 5th) on the other end which pretty much sealed it.
FWIW, I think at least 6 of the turnovers were offensive fouls and 2 were bonehead decisions by players that had nothing to do with Wojo's playcalling (Dexter forgot he had already picked up his dribble and Cain [I think] didn't look before inbounding the ball after a UCLA basket and threw it over Carton's head to UCLA's PG). I was very critical of Wojo after the OK state game, this one felt more like a one sided foul fest (3 first half fouls on Lewis and John) and an ice cold shooting night.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 11, 2020, 11:43:01 PM
Wojo's strategy on offense was to try to attack downhill and win the game at the foul line.
"We're in the bonus! We are IN the bonus! We need to play downhill because we're in the bonus!"—Wojo, during that game at Indiana
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 11, 2020, 11:47:25 PM
"We're in the bonus! We are IN the bonus! We need to play downhill because we're in the bonus!"—Wojo, during that game at Indiana
Is that a bad strategy? I'm confused. I personally think that's typically the smart thing to do. Getting to the free throw line and getting the other team into foul trouble is usually a positive. But maybe I'm playing checkers here.
Quote from: BLM on December 12, 2020, 12:02:20 AM
Is that a bad strategy? I'm confused. I personally think that's typically the smart thing to do. Getting to the free throw line and getting the other team into foul trouble is usually a positive. But maybe I'm playing checkers here.
The first road game for MU the last 2 years have been a blow-out. Killed at Indiana and Wisky. Tonight, there were in the game. What happened is what I thought,
a team that has not played together much and are just learning Wojo's system. Not sure what his offensive system at times is. But you have a senior center that took
2 shots. If that is the future, you better sit Theo more and give the frosh more PT time. Can not play 4 or 5, it does not work. Theo has to get more touches. Of course,
you have Akanno looking like a third grader does not help or playing Elliott who you can tell has lost a step or 2, which really hurts on the D. Trying to figure out why
Perez does not play? Why do you recruit a kid like him and not play him? Surprising. To me, Wojo's biggest problem is finishing games.
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 12, 2020, 12:13:19 AM
Perez does not play? Why do you recruit a kid like him and not play him? Surprising.
I think the staff took him so that they could sit him and try to develop him into a Big East contributor. They didn't even attempt a waiver for him until the new COVID year became a thing. My guess is that when he got the waiver, the staff was clear that his role this season would be as an emergency backup. Would not be surprised to see him be a key piece next season. If Akanno doesn't improve though, I could see Perez taking on that 5 minutes of energy off the bench role
Quote from: BLM on December 12, 2020, 12:02:20 AM
Is that a bad strategy? I'm confused. I personally think that's typically the smart thing to do. Getting to the free throw line and getting the other team into foul trouble is usually a positive. But maybe I'm playing checkers here.
Especially when UCLA was in the bonus + at 9:26 to go. UCLA only fouled once the rest of the game.
Some wanted Lewis back in but he picked up his fourth on a touch foul with
9:08 to go after he made a little run. Based on how the game was called, Justin was getting handcuffed and MU kept it to a one possession game until 5:54, where UCLA were awarded ten free throws the rest of the game. I doubt he would have lasted one possession with those three mopes.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:03:07 PM
Tell me how my conclusions are wrong Wojo apologist
In basketball, you have to make shots to win games. If you don't, it doesn't matter who is coaching the team.
Quote from: BLM on December 12, 2020, 12:02:20 AM
Is that a bad strategy? I'm confused. I personally think that's typically the smart thing to do. Getting to the free throw line and getting the other team into foul trouble is usually a positive. But maybe I'm playing checkers here.
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Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 11, 2020, 11:03:07 PM
Tell me how my conclusions are wrong Wojo apologist
He changed his user name to BLM so he couldn't be questioned, so...
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 12, 2020, 01:18:38 AM
He changed his user name to BLM so he couldn't be questioned, so...
What?
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 11, 2020, 10:56:00 PM
The turnovers were bad, especially in the first. Tyger Campbell was really playing aggressive on DJ late, which seemed to take him out of his game a bit. He had created for himself all night but UCLA took that away from him in the last 12 minutes and we really didn't have a Plan B.
You mean one coach tweaked strategy based on what was happening and the other said - "let's just keep doing what we were doing but HARDER"
Quote from: 1SE on December 12, 2020, 01:45:43 AM
You mean one coach tweaked strategy based on what was happening and the other said - "let's just keep doing what we were doing but HARDER"
Wojo definitely had the team running different things. He had some dribble handoffs to Koby. He had some isolations to Dawson at the high post. He threw it into Theo and Dawson on the low post. He went to a DJ/Theo pick and roll that got Jamal a wide open three. None of them worked. I honestly wonder what you were watching if you think Wojo just sat there and said "try harder!"
Quote from: BLM on December 12, 2020, 11:04:55 AM
Wojo definitely had the team running different things. He had some dribble handoffs to Koby. He had some isolations to Dawson at the high post. He threw it into Theo and Dawson on the low post. He went to a DJ/Theo pick and roll that got Jamal a wide open three. None of them worked. I honestly wonder what you were watching if you think Wojo just sat there and said "try harder!"
1SE's opinion is also based on TAMU's hypothesis about what wojo was trying to do. So it's not based on any evidence at all