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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mileskishnish72 on December 08, 2020, 07:52:06 AM

Title: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 08, 2020, 07:52:06 AM
Over/under 154 and 1/2.

Sandwiched between a nice win over an archrival and a trip to LA to play a storied opponent, this seems like the poster child for a trap game. It'll be interesting to see how this squad responds.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: The Sultan on December 08, 2020, 07:56:31 AM
I'd like to see some good runs from both Akanno and Perez in this game.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: wadesworld on December 08, 2020, 08:30:56 AM
I don't think UWGB is good enough to take advantage of a trap.  MU by 20+.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: The Sultan on December 08, 2020, 08:35:14 AM
UWGB is terrible.  MU could play bad, but they aren't losing this game.  Small and inexperienced on the inside so expect Garcia, Theo and Justin to have pretty big games.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 08, 2020, 08:38:06 AM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 07:56:31 AM
I'd like to see some good runs from both Akanno and Perez in this game.

Agreed,  would like to see Akanno start to get the rust off.  It's seems like for Perez it will simply be a reward for working hard though.  He seems to be out of the rotation. 
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: tower912 on December 08, 2020, 08:39:00 AM
Get Oso, Perez and Dexter as much run as possible.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: wadesworld on December 08, 2020, 09:03:43 AM
I would take the under, though.  I can't see UWGB scoring much more than 60.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 08, 2020, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 08:35:14 AM
UWGB is terrible.  MU could play bad, but they aren't losing this game.  Small and inexperienced on the inside so expect Garcia, Theo and Justin to have pretty big games.

Hope so -talking spread, not outcome (God forbid).
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: dgies9156 on December 08, 2020, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 08, 2020, 08:38:06 AM
Agreed,  would like to see Akanno start to get the rust off.  It's seems like for Perez it will simply be a reward for working hard though.  He seems to be out of the rotation.

Would almost like to see us start the Big 6 (Cain, DJ, Koby, Dawson, Theo, Justin), build a 20 point lead quickly and then play as much of the rest of the game as humanly possible with the bench.

This is the game where you do that -- even give the walk-ons significant time. It's a chance to get your team to build chemistry and better learn the system.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: leever on December 08, 2020, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on December 08, 2020, 10:05:48 AM
Would almost like to see us start the Big 6 (Cain, DJ, Koby, Dawson, Theo, Justin), build a 20 point lead quickly and then play as much of the rest of the game as humanly possible with the bench.

This is the game where you do that -- even give the walk-ons significant time. It's a chance to get your team to build chemistry and better learn the system.
Agree.  If we could start (and play) 6 that would be a significant advantage.  Should win most games 6 on 5.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: The Sultan on December 08, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
I mean, they also want to work on things that they may want to use for UCLA.  It's not that these guys need rest or anything.  I really doubt the walk-ons will see much, if any time until the very, very end.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Jockey on December 08, 2020, 11:03:34 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on December 08, 2020, 10:05:48 AM
Would almost like to see us start the Big 6 (Cain, DJ, Koby, Dawson, Theo, Justin), build a 20 point lead quickly and then play as much of the rest of the game as humanly possible with the bench.

This is the game where you do that -- even give the walk-ons significant time. It's a chance to get your team to build chemistry and better learn the system.

You want to reward the bench guys with minutes when you can.

But, we need to remember that of our top 6, 3 of them are young inexperienced guys who need minutes on the floor. Garcia and Lewis need minutes. DJ has played 24 games in his college career and is coming off of a long layoff. I would rather see minutes for those three than guys who are not going to be in the rotation come BE play.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: cheebs09 on December 08, 2020, 11:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
I mean, they also want to work on things that they may want to use for UCLA.  It's not that these guys need rest or anything.  I really doubt the walk-ons will see much, if any time until the very, very end.

Wojo does not get the walk-ins in as much as coaches before him. I think some of that might be NET implication. I think this year we see more of the main rotation in blowouts due to the lack of buy games. Especially with all the new guys.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: We R Final Four on December 08, 2020, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: tower912 on December 08, 2020, 08:39:00 AM
Get Oso, Perez and Dexter as much run as possible.
?
Perez, Oso, and the walk-ons are not getting significant run tonight.


UCLA and CU are right around the corner.
I see GE and DA getting a little more run
because they will be counted on this year, Oso? No.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: tower912 on December 08, 2020, 11:54:19 AM
Why run up minutes for other freshmen if MU is up 25-30?   I love Dawson and Lewis, but I am thinking about February, the freshman wall, and two frosh playing 25+ mpg.   Playing Oso saves wear on those two and helps get him ready in case of injuries, fouls, or fatigue.   
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 08, 2020, 12:12:16 PM
I've seen worse teams keep games closer against better teams
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Its DJOver on December 08, 2020, 12:19:18 PM
Getting the end of the bench/walk-ons minutes is pretty low on my list of priorities tonight.  It would go

1.)Win
2.)No injuries
3.)Cover
4.)CU win
5.)SH/StJ/Gtown win
6.)Get Oso or the walk-ons an extended run
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: We R Final Four on December 08, 2020, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 08, 2020, 11:54:19 AM
Why run up minutes for other freshmen if MU is up 25-30?   I love Dawson and Lewis, but I am thinking about February, the freshman wall, and two frosh playing 25+ mpg.   Playing Oso saves wear on those two and helps get him ready in case of injuries, fouls, or fatigue.
IMO, Wojo's mentality is as if it's January. He's going into his game as he did UW, and as he will UCLA. He is not going to play Oso other than a few minutes for the sake of experience. If anyone is getting more run tonight it will be Greg and Dex because they are a part of the plan this year.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2020, 01:08:55 PM
Really all I am looking for in this game is for MU to avoid a hangover after beating Bucky.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: shoothoops on December 08, 2020, 01:18:41 PM
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 08, 2020, 12:19:18 PM
Getting the end of the bench/walk-ons minutes is pretty low on my list of priorities tonight.  It would go

1.)Win
2.)No injuries
3.)Cover
4.)CU win
5.)SH/StJ/Gtown win
6.)Get Oso or the walk-ons an extended run

I'm good with 1,2,4,5,6. That'd be great. Number 1 matters most by one or more points. I don't really care about 3.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Its DJOver on December 08, 2020, 01:23:47 PM
Quote from: shoothoops on December 08, 2020, 01:18:41 PM
I'm good with 1,2,4,5,6. That'd be great. Number 1 matters most by one or more points. I don't really care about 3.

NET disagrees.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Dish on December 08, 2020, 03:27:20 PM
Did the total really open at 154.5? If it did, I don't think it was there long.

I'll probably play first half under 68.5 or UWGB team total under 61.5. Of the two, I think I like the latter.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: BrewCity83 on December 08, 2020, 04:32:11 PM
This looks like a 100-55 game.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: mubb3434 on December 08, 2020, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 08, 2020, 08:39:00 AM
Get Oso, Perez and Dexter as much run as possible.

I have to disagree here. This is a young and new team that hasn't played much together. I want the role players (Greg, Dexter, etc.) to get as much run as possible with the guys that regularly get more minutes.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: oldwarrior81 on December 08, 2020, 07:23:03 PM
line changes at Harrah's/Caesar's

  O/U   time changed
153.5   12/7  9:51p
152.0   12/8  8:36a
151.5   12/8  9:34a
150.5   12/8  10:20a
149.5   12/8  11:05a
149.0   12/8  12:28p
146.5   12/8  3:36p
146.0   12/8  3:37p
145.0   12/8  3:42p
144.0   12/8  7:16p
143.0   12/8  7:19p
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: fjm on December 08, 2020, 07:28:37 PM
Holy cow. Dropping like a rock.

It's 20.5 now. I might bet some on MU.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Pakuni on December 08, 2020, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: fjm on December 08, 2020, 07:28:37 PM
Holy cow. Dropping like a rock.

It's 20.5 now. I might bet some on MU.

It's been there all day on Draft Kings, fwiw.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: fjm on December 08, 2020, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 08, 2020, 07:32:25 PM
It's been there all day on Draft Kings, fwiw.

Well nuts.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: brewcity77 on December 08, 2020, 08:01:42 PM
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on December 08, 2020, 07:23:03 PM
line changes at Harrah's/Caesar's

  O/U   time changed
153.5   12/7  9:51p
152.0   12/8  8:36a
151.5   12/8  9:34a
150.5   12/8  10:20a
149.5   12/8  11:05a
149.0   12/8  12:28p
146.5   12/8  3:36p
146.0   12/8  3:37p
145.0   12/8  3:42p
144.0   12/8  7:16p
143.0   12/8  7:19p

At that point I really think about the over. UWGB has tended to play at whatever pace their opponents want to play at. This will probably be a 75-80 possession game, which means we likely score 90 on our own. They combined for over 120 with the Badgers at probably 10-15 fewer possessions. Unless GB is completely inept, I think it likely goes over 143 and wouldn't be surprised to exceed the original over.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 08, 2020, 10:06:02 PM
Hit a nice parlay. Was able to get in at the 154.5 and was worried when Dawson backed the guy down and DJ drove without milking  the clock, but all's well that end well.
Title: Re: MU -24 vs. UWGB
Post by: Carl on December 08, 2020, 11:25:10 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 08, 2020, 10:06:02 PM
Hit a nice parlay. Was able to get in at the 154.5 and was worried when Dawson backed the guy down and DJ drove without milking  the clock, but all's well that end well.

Must have had UWGB as the 2nd game in that parlay?
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