Newsome will impose strict new rules on SoCal when the ICU bed availability dips below 15%, and speculation is they could reach that level this weekend. If it does, it seems like it would jeopardize the UCLA game. We have already seen the 49ers, Stanford and Cal move games when the rules were preemptively imposed in the Bay Area, so I would have to believe this would affect our game in Westwood.
I hope UCLA is proactively looking at alternate sites, or perhaps just coming to MKE. Other teams have shown flexibility in setting up neutral site games on short notice (Omaha?), so hopefully we don't lose this game to the pandemic....
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 05, 2020, 10:28:06 AM
Newsome will impose strict new rules on SoCal when the ICU bed availability dips below 15%, and speculation is they could reach that level this weekend. If it does, it seems like it would jeopardize the UCLA game. We have already seen the 49ers, Stanford and Cal move games when the rules were preemptively imposed in the Bay Area, so I would have to believe this would affect our game in Westwood.
I hope UCLA is proactively looking at alternate sites, or perhaps just coming to MKE. Other teams have shown flexibility in setting up neutral site games on short notice (Omaha?), so hopefully we don't lose this game to the pandemic....
We all know any strict new rules Newsom hands down will apply to everyone but him.
Play the game in Las Vegas! UCLA could bus here and we have plenty of arenas.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 05, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
We all know any strict new rules Newsom hands down will apply to everyone but him.
The low hanging fruit would be to just play the game at the French Laundry.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 05, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
The low hanging fruit would be to just play the game at the French Laundry.
Ha...I'm sure chef Keller would love to feed the refined pallettes of these young athletes!
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 05, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
We all know any strict new rules Newsom hands down will apply to everyone but him.
No problem with your comment - but get it off of here. Put it on the Covid board.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 05, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
The low hanging fruit would be to just play the game at the French Laundry.
Cracked me up. Well done.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 05, 2020, 10:28:06 AM
Newsome will impose strict new rules on SoCal when the ICU bed availability dips below 15%, and speculation is they could reach that level this weekend. If it does, it seems like it would jeopardize the UCLA game. We have already seen the 49ers, Stanford and Cal move games when the rules were preemptively imposed in the Bay Area, so I would have to believe this would affect our game in Westwood.
I hope UCLA is proactively looking at alternate sites, or perhaps just coming to MKE. Other teams have shown flexibility in setting up neutral site games on short notice (Omaha?), so hopefully we don't lose this game to the pandemic....
UCLA said game will be played as scheduled. No fans obviously.
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 05, 2020, 07:27:06 PM
UCLA said game will be played as scheduled. No fans obviously.
Good to hear.
Is UCLA sure?
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/06/943630749/nearly-85-of-california-residents-to-be-under-stay-at-home-orders-through-christ
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on December 06, 2020, 06:16:29 PM
Is UCLA sure?
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/06/943630749/nearly-85-of-california-residents-to-be-under-stay-at-home-orders-through-christ
As of now. Obviously that could change.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 05, 2020, 10:40:39 AM
The low hanging fruit would be to just play the game at the French Laundry.
With BLM on MUs unis, we could just call the game a protest.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 06, 2020, 08:37:43 PM
With BLM on MUs unis, we could just call the game a protest.
Well played. +1
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 05, 2020, 10:28:06 AM
Newsome will impose strict new rules on SoCal when the ICU bed availability dips below 15%, and speculation is they could reach that level this weekend. If it does, it seems like it would jeopardize the UCLA game. We have already seen the 49ers, Stanford and Cal move games when the rules were preemptively imposed in the Bay Area, so I would have to believe this would affect our game in Westwood.
I hope UCLA is proactively looking at alternate sites, or perhaps just coming to MKE. Other teams have shown flexibility in setting up neutral site games on short notice (Omaha?), so hopefully we don't lose this game to the pandemic....
The game won't be lost to the pandemic. It would be lost to the commie hypocrite Newsom. That is the correct reason.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 06, 2020, 08:37:43 PM
With BLM on MUs unis, we could just call the game a protest.
winner!
Does anyone honestly believe MU is going to play every game currently scheduled? Please.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 AM
Does anyone honestly believe MU is going to play every game currently scheduled? Please.
Not at all. I'm surprised that they've played 4 already. However, if a game does get cancelled I'm going to get super mad at someone and vent on Scoop. My entertainment > others health and safety!
Quote from: naginiF on December 07, 2020, 06:45:06 AM
Not at all. I'm surprised that they've played 4 already. However, if a game does get cancelled I'm going to get super mad at someone and vent on Scoop. My entertainment > others health and safety!
Homer is that you?
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 AM
Does anyone honestly believe MU is going to play every game currently scheduled? Please.
Quote from: naginiF on December 07, 2020, 06:45:06 AM
Not at all. I'm surprised that they've played 4 already. However, if a game does get cancelled I'm going to get super mad at someone and vent on Scoop. My entertainment > others health and safety!
No one has said or implied any of the sort in the slightest way in this thread. And you both know it.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2020, 06:34:28 AM
Does anyone honestly believe MU is going to play every game currently scheduled? Please.
I think there's a decent chance of it. That said, there are only 6 more games currently scheduled, since we haven't seen the full Big East schedule yet.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 07, 2020, 06:59:42 AM
No one has said or implied any of the sort in the slightest way in this thread. And you both know it.
The discussion has been whether the UCLA game will go off on schedule. The discussion had drifted toward the political. My question was appropriate and there was nothing wrong with my tone.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 07, 2020, 04:42:12 AM
The game won't be lost to the pandemic. It would be lost to the commie hypocrite Newsom. That is the correct reason.
Did you see the win over the Badgers?
UCONN just went in quarantine. I give it two more weeks with the Thanksgiving surge coming and entire NCAA season in jeopardy.
At best, the season is going to be choppy, no flow and MU will be lucky to get 20 games in.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 07, 2020, 06:59:42 AM
No one has said or implied any of the sort in the slightest way in this thread. And you both know it.
Basically what Tower said plus it's only pragmatic to expect multiple games to be cancelled. Willie positioned the possible cancellation of the game not as a health/safety measure but that of a 'commie hypocrite' (one of those descriptors he uses properly the other I think the real definition escapes him) i.e. blaming a specific person. I was merely pointing out how silly/selfish that angle is.
UCLA won yesterday.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/story/2020-12-06/ucla-opens-pac-12-dominant-victory-over-cal
If the UCLA game is cancelled because of the California Governor's rules, and not because anyone on either team is having COVID issues, then I think it's fair for fans to be pissed.
Quote from: nyg on December 07, 2020, 07:34:56 AM
UCONN just went in quarantine. I give it two more weeks with the Thanksgiving surge coming and entire NCAA season in jeopardy.
They'll find a way to play a tournament, even if they use the information from the past two weeks as the only data points.
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Quote from: brewcity77 on December 07, 2020, 04:29:11 PM
They'll find a way to play a tournament, even if they use the information from the past two weeks as the only data points.
They'll do a FA Cup style tournament - all eligible teams, higher rated conference starting later in the tournament. That's a worst-case scenario. Before that would be to push the tournament back to start in April or even May. I think you're going to start seeing conferences bubbling soon.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 07, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
If the UCLA game is cancelled because of the California Governor's rules, and not because anyone on either team is having COVID issues, then I think it's fair for fans to be pissed.
The California rules are pretty simple: if there are less than 17% available ICU beds, there has to be an area shut down. People shouldn't be pissed. The requirement seems reasonable and is math based so no single politician can get in the way.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 07, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
If the UCLA game is cancelled because of the California Governor's rules, and not because anyone on either team is having COVID issues, then I think it's fair for fans to be pissed.
I think of Sean Doolittle's (Nats pitcher) quote often.
"Sports are like the reward of a functional society."
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 07, 2020, 06:49:45 PM
They'll do a FA Cup style tournament - all eligible teams, higher rated conference starting later in the tournament. That's a worst-case scenario. Before that would be to push the tournament back to start in April or even May. I think you're going to start seeing conferences bubbling soon.
Again I doubt it. I don't think the numbers work. Cheaper to miss a few games.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 07, 2020, 06:49:45 PM
They'll do a FA Cup style tournament - all eligible teams, higher rated conference starting later in the tournament. That's a worst-case scenario. Before that would be to push the tournament back to start in April or even May. I think you're going to start seeing conferences bubbling soon.
I think a full NCAA version, combining all three divisions, of the FA cup would be a blast
Quote from: Gato78 on December 07, 2020, 06:56:43 PM
The California rules are pretty simple: if there are less than 17% available ICU beds, there has to be an area shut down. People shouldn't be pissed. The requirement seems reasonable and is math based so no single politician can get in the way.
It's actually 15%. My bro is a doc at Cedars. The UCLA game tomorrow is on at Pauley against USD.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 07, 2020, 07:38:05 PM
Again I doubt it. I don't think the numbers work. Cheaper to miss a few games.
If that were the case, we wouldn't see teams staying longer in Bubbleville or making efforts to get there. Clearly if you have TV coverage, it's worth it to make sure you get games.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 07, 2020, 08:53:17 PM
If that were the case, we wouldn't see teams staying longer in Bubbleville or making efforts to get there. Clearly if you have TV coverage, it's worth it to make sure you get games.
Bubbleville wasn't really a true bubble. Yeah, something like that, which is more like a common site with increased testing, could work. But you are still going to have the possibility of positive tests under that model.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2020, 07:45:45 PM
I think a full NCAA version, combining all three divisions, of the FA cup would be a blast
I doubt you are going to see most D3 teams participate in winter sports and I REALLY doubt there will be D3 championships.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 08:00:24 AM
Bubbleville wasn't really a true bubble. Yeah, something like that, which is more like a common site with increased testing, could work. But you are still going to have the possibility of positive tests under that model.
I think that's what we're likely to see. I think the Big East will be at Mohegan Sun and you'll see the other Top-6 leagues do something similar, whether at single sites or at a few sites. They will be soft bubbles, but it's safer than the travel we've seen.
For smaller leagues, I'm not sure how they'll get by. Just not enough money or TV revenue to insure proper testing. I know we usually see the high-majors dominate the at-large bids, but that might be even more pronounced this year on the simple basis that the smaller leagues don't meet the criteria for inclusion beyond a champion.
OK, but then I wish people would stop calling that a bubble. That isn't a bubble. That's just getting people to a common site with increased precautions.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 08:06:10 AM
OK, but then I wish people would stop calling that a bubble. That isn't a bubble. That's just getting people to a common site with increased precautions.
Okay...it's a "soft bubble" then.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 08, 2020, 08:03:42 AM
I think that's what we're likely to see. I think the Big East will be at Mohegan Sun and you'll see the other Top-6 leagues do something similar, whether at single sites or at a few sites. They will be soft bubbles, but it's safer than the travel we've seen.
For smaller leagues, I'm not sure how they'll get by. Just not enough money or TV revenue to insure proper testing. I know we usually see the high-majors dominate the at-large bids, but that might be even more pronounced this year on the simple basis that the smaller leagues don't meet the criteria for inclusion beyond a champion.
And the soft Mohegan Sun bubble didn't work out so well in the end either.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2020, 07:45:45 PM
I think a full NCAA version, combining all three divisions, of the FA cup would be a blast
you couldn't do D2 and D3. Have all 348 eligible D1 teams (Ok. State and Auburn ineligible, along with seven reclassifying schools) and place them by conference ranking, easy to do with 32 conferences. The bottom 8 in the first round, then the next 8 in the second, the next 8 in the third 8 start in the fourth round. Use conference RPI rankings to determine the conference placement. It won't happen but it would be fun.
(https://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/josh-rosen-jeopardy.jpg)
Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on December 08, 2020, 07:36:53 PM
(https://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/josh-rosen-jeopardy.jpg)
Ugh. That was a miserable game.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2020, 07:45:45 PM
I think a full NCAA version, combining all three divisions, of the FA cup would be a blast
Every year. ~1100 teams across all levels. So basically you'd need 4 extra weekends - effectively D3 and D2 would need to wrap up their seasons a little early (but they could still have a "loser-bracket" side where teams that fell out of the main tourney jump back into the respective division tourney).
Every year you'd probably get one or two D3 teams into the round of 64 - how fun!
Quote from: 1SE on December 09, 2020, 03:10:35 AM
Every year. ~1100 teams across all levels. So basically you'd need 4 extra weekends - effectively D3 and D2 would need to wrap up their seasons a little early (but they could still have a "loser-bracket" side where teams that fell out of the main tourney jump back into the respective division tourney).
Every year you'd probably get one or two D3 teams into the round of 64 - how fun!
Use that logic and ask how often a team from other than the champions league or Premier have won/advanced far. It's just about giving the small teams their chance in the spotlight. And maybe you might find yourself happily surprised occasionally just like the actual tournament
The FA cup runs over September-June, with the lower non-league teams (D3) playing early and the big dogs start much later.
Even compressing that some, would be massively unworkable.
I think you'd see a champions league style tournament before you'd see an FA Cup style tournament.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on December 09, 2020, 09:05:04 AM
The FA cup runs over September-June, with the lower non-league teams (D3) playing early and the big dogs start much later.
Even compressing that some, would be massively unworkable.
I think you'd see a champions league style tournament before you'd see an FA Cup style tournament.
I think Galway thought I was being sarcastic - I wasn't.
How much do I care about D2 and D3 basketball right now? 0. How much would I pay to watch them on TV right now? 0. How much would I care if they were part of MEGA TOURNEY? More than 0, and I would pay more than 0 to watch those games too.
Single elimination tourneys are exponential. Sketching it out you could basically do something like a 12 round structure where the "normal" 64 teams don't start playing until a 128 team round 6 (seeded against 64 teams from D3/D2/unseeded D1). That would only be one ROUND longer than the current tourney for "normal" tourney teams.
I think it would make the NCAA more than the current format but it would certainly be a logistical nightmare.
Watching 28 seed UW-Platteville knock off 5 seed Badgers would be awesome.
to me I'd rather see the top D3 and D2 power houses at least get a chance to show their metal in the tournament than I would see 15-16 teams from crappy conferences lose by 40 to 1 seeds. I've been vocal before about how single bid conferences should make it their best team in the tournament and I would go a step farther that I would rather see a UWSP or UWWW or a NW Missouri State fill up those spots as they'd likely take down a lot of the worst D1 teams anyways.
Would it be perfect? Nope. Would it be complicated? yes. But even if it was a once every few years thing I think it'd be cool. The FA cup has >700 teams so it's not like it'd be an unheard of concept to organize.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 09, 2020, 10:00:16 AM
to me I'd rather see the top D3 and D2 power houses at least get a chance to show their metal in the tournament than I would see 15-16 teams from crappy conferences lose by 40 to 1 seeds. I've been vocal before about how single bid conferences should make it their best team in the tournament and I would go a step farther that I would rather see a UWSP or UWWW or a NW Missouri State fill up those spots as they'd likely take down a lot of the worst D1 teams anyways.
Would it be perfect? Nope. Would it be complicated? yes. But even if it was a once every few years thing I think it'd be cool. The FA cup has >700 teams so it's not like it'd be an unheard of concept to organize.
I would think the financial case for this would be there. I mean, how much $$ does D2 and D3 basketball make now? Especially with all the different streaming platforms desperate for content I'm sure you could get something for the D2/D3 portion of MEGA TOURNEY
tm. And then pay regular NCAA credits to any team that makes it to the SUPER 64
tm
Quote from: 1SE on December 09, 2020, 10:33:58 AM
I would think the financial case for this would be there. I mean, how much $$ does D2 and D3 basketball make now? Especially with all the different streaming platforms desperate for content I'm sure you could get something for the D2/D3 portion of MEGA TOURNEYtm. And then pay regular NCAA credits to any team that makes it to the SUPER 64tm
This would be good for business. So many montages about going from the MEGA to the SUPER tourney (will need a new song, like "A shining moment" or "the moments that led up to this)"). Even get good regional sponsors for it. The mega tourney El Paso location, sponsored by Ed's Cash and Carry
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 09, 2020, 11:28:32 AM
This would be good for business. So many montages about going from the MEGA to the SUPER tourney (will need a new song, like "A shining moment" or "the moments that led up to this)"). Even get good regional sponsors for it. The mega tourney El Paso location, sponsored by Ed's Cash and Carry
Need to make sure Rocky archives this thread forever so we get paid when the NCAA jacks our ideas
Probably the best you could hope for is the D2 and D3 champion getting into the field of 68. But I doubt that even happens.
UCLA handled their business against San Diego tonight, winning by near 30.
More significantly, both Jalen Hill and Johnny Juzang played significant minutes (18 and 20 respectively) meaning they should be at full strength on Friday.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 10, 2020, 12:17:31 AM
UCLA handled their business against San Diego tonight, winning by near 30.
More significantly, both Jalen Hill and Johnny Juzang played significant minutes (18 and 20 respectively) meaning they should be at full strength on Friday.
Maybe I don't want to figure out how to watch this...
As Jeopardy is capitalized I thought this was a superbar thread about a game show
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on December 10, 2020, 10:52:11 AM
As Jeopardy is capitalized I thought this was a superbar thread about a game show
see Wisconsin Inferiority Complexes post above. Masterful job, IMHO
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 10, 2020, 12:17:31 AM
UCLA handled their business against San Diego tonight, winning by near 30.
More significantly, both Jalen Hill and Johnny Juzang played significant minutes (18 and 20 respectively) meaning they should be at full strength on Friday.
Without fail, every time I see the name Johnny Juzang I sing it to the tune of Johnny Too Bad by UB40 in my head.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 10, 2020, 12:17:31 AM
UCLA handled their business against San Diego tonight, winning by near 30.
More significantly, both Jalen Hill and Johnny Juzang played significant minutes (18 and 20 respectively) meaning they should be at full strength on Friday.
I watched the first half, I wasn't overly impressed by UCLA (and distracted by Walton and the other announcer talking about how black squirrels ended up on the west coast). USD is not good with 5 new transfers and was playing their first game. UCLA's win against Cal isn't too impressive either considering they're a bottom three team in the Pac-12 and got beat badly by Pepperdine last night. This is a very winnable game for MU.
(http://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShinyIdenticalJackrabbit-max-1mb.gif)
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 10, 2020, 01:42:06 PM
I watched the first half, I wasn't overly impressed by UCLA (and distracted by Walton and the other announcer talking about how black squirrels ended up on the west coast). USD is not good with 5 new transfers and was playing their first game. UCLA's win against Cal isn't too impressive either considering they're a bottom three team in the Pac-12 and got beat badly by Pepperdine last night. This is a very winnable game for MU.
Lemme guess. Walton hypothesized that they were attracted by ready access to weed?
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 10, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
Lemme guess. Walton hypothesized that they were attracted by ready access to weed?
apparently, someone (may have been from UCLA, hard to tell with Walton) brought two back and let them loose and that's why there are black squirrels in California.
The more you know...
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 10, 2020, 01:58:03 PM
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Benetti makes Walton tolerable but otherwise he is terrible.
Jason Benetti, the swiss army knife of broadcasters.
(http://odditymall.com/includes/content/upload/giant-swiss-army-knife-3871.gif)
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 10, 2020, 04:18:19 PM
Benetti makes Walton tolerable but otherwise he is terrible.
Walton is great when he is broadcasting a game not involving your team.
Stan Johnson and LMU supporting MU Rah Rah this weekend:
https://twitter.com/lmucoachjohnson/status/1337167481165684737
Quote from: shoothoops on December 10, 2020, 04:56:51 PM
Stan Johnson and LMU supporting MU Rah Rah this weekend:
https://twitter.com/lmucoachjohnson/status/1337167481165684737
Keeping coaching options open at MU, hey?
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on December 10, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
Walton is great when he is broadcasting a game not involving your team.
I really like listening to Walton.
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 10, 2020, 07:08:50 PM
I agree
Same here. I don't think I could listen to him every game, but he is a funny and interesting change of pace.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 10, 2020, 08:08:10 PM
Same here. I don't think I could listen to him every game, but he is a funny and interesting change of pace.
One positive thing in Walton's favor is he is very Pro Marquette . He was very close with Maurice Lucas and became a MU fan as a result, named his son Luke in honor of Lucas.