MUScoop
MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Not A Serious Person on December 05, 2020, 09:44:45 AM
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My top 6 ... agree?
1. MU beats #1 Villanova, 74-72 - Janaury 24, 2017
Nuff said
1a. MU beats Creighton 106-104 in OT - January 9, 2019
This game has some statistical impossibilities which is why I rank it so high.
Start with MU never led in regulation. The only time it was tied was 0-0 and when the clock was at 0:00 (on Sam's shot). I have no way to look it up, but I cannot imagine many teams have won games that they did not lead for one second in all 40 minutes of regulation.
MU scored 5 points in the last second of the game to tie it (how many times has that happened???)
Oh yeah, Marcus dropped 53.
3. Marquette beats #4 Wisconson 67 - 65 - December 4, 2020
11 ties. 13 lead changes, including 1 tie, and four lead changes in the last minute of the game!
4. MU beats #7 Creighton 102-94 - January 21, 2017
Seven players in double figures, lead by Reinhardt with 21
5. MU beats #8 Providence, 64-63 - January 5, 2016
Henry blocks Kris Dunn
6. MU beats #9 Creighton, 89-84 - December 15, 2020
As complete a team victory as you will see
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I would put the win over UW in 2018 as number 2. Creighton was also without Mo Watson in that one game.
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If they wet the bed the rest of the year, it won’t mean much. Great in the moment. Leave at that for now
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The win in Madison that sent Bo packing.
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Kansas St. was a big one that jump started Wojo’s best stretch of his career at MU. With losses to Indians and Kansas, this started a stretch of beating 3 number 12 ranked teams.
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The win in Madison that sent Bo packing.
Bo was sent packing because he was packing prior to that game. To UW's credit, it saved his legacy. MU should have pounced on that juicy tidbit.
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My top 5 ... agree?
1. MU beats #1 Villanova, 74-72 - Janaury 24, 2017
Nuff said
1a. MU beats Creighton 106-104 in OT - January 9, 2019
This game has some statistical impossibilities which is why I rank it so high.
Start with MU never led in regulation. The only time it was tied was 0-0 and when the clock was at 0:00 (on Sam's shot). I have no way to look it up, but I cannot imagine many teams have won games that they did not lead for one second in all 40 minutes of regulation.
Oh yeah, Marcus dropped 53.
3. Marquette beats #4 Wisconson 67 - 65 - December 4, 2020
11 ties. 13 lead changes, including 1 tie, and four lead changes in the last minute of the game!
4. MU beats #7 Creighton 102-94 - January 21, 2017
Seven players in double figures, lead by Reinhardt with 21
5. MU beats #8 Providence, 64-63 - January 5, 2016
Henry blocks Kris Dunn
I'd put this win #2. I'd also put the 2017 beat down of Bucky in the Kohl Hole at #4 and bump out the Providence win. Handing your in state rival their worst home loss ever is worth a spot even if they weren't a top 10 team.
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I loved that Creighton win on the road in 2017 . Was a truly enjoyable game to watch.
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1 and 1a are perfect Heisenberg. Beating the #1 ranked Villanova has to be the pièce de résistance. But Beating Creighton in 2019 included the scenario of Marquette being down 5, on the road, with under a second to go,....and winning. Awful hard to beat those two. Last nights win against the evil and #4 ranked Badgers, was a close and worthy #3.
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Kansas St. was a big one that jump started Wojo’s best stretch of his career at MU. With losses to Indians and Kansas, this started a stretch of beating 3 number 12 ranked teams.
I actually thought the win vs. Louisville was bigger that year. It came right after the losses to Indiana and Kansas, and it was a tight game that we pulled out. A loss would have been really bad there. That's the victory that ended up launching our 20-2 stretch. But yes, the ensuing wins over Kansas State, Wisconsin and Buffalo gave that team cred going into the BEast season ... and then came the unfathomable win at Creighton.
I was in shock after we beat Nova because of the way the game was going. I remember looking at my wife and father-in-law after Hauser grabbed the final rebound and said, "There's no way we actually won that game." And of course, the 2019 Creighton win was impossible.
Last night, we just played really well. I know it's an upset, but it truly didn't feel like an upset to me ... which is very satisfying in its own right.
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First post updated with the Creighton win
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This is bigger than the other Creighton win because there's no "Mo Watson was injured" excuse. We beat a top 10 team at full strength at their place fair and square (actually it may not have been given those ridiculous refs)
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Here's hoping we all have to update our lists a lot. I like this team.
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This is bigger than the other Creighton win because there's no "Mo Watson was injured" excuse. We beat a top 10 team at full strength at their place fair and square (actually it may not have been given those ridiculous refs)
Recency bias
And please re-read the reason the game was ranked 1a (or read it for the first time). The fact that Mo Watson did not play is irrelevant to the reason it is ranked 1a. It was a statistical impossibility that MU managed to win the game. Given the oddity of the game is why it is ranked so high.
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Recency bias
There's no bias given my reasoning. When it happened I wasn't that excited, I thought we were unbelievably lucky to play them right after his injury.
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There's no bias given my reasoning. When it happened I wasn't that excited, I thought we were unbelievably lucky to play them right after his injury.
Still don't get it. To repeat ...
And please re-read the reason the game was ranked 1a (or read it for the first time). The fact that Mo Watson did not play is irrelevant to the reason it is ranked 1a. It was a statistical impossibility that MU managed to win the game. Given the oddity of the game is why it is ranked so high.
They were far more than unbelievably lucky. That game might have set an all-time NCAA standard for a lucky win. That is why it belongs on the list at 1a.
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Recency bias
And please re-read the reason the game was ranked 1a (or read it for the first time). The fact that Mo Watson did not play is irrelevant to the reason it is ranked 1a. It was a statistical impossibility that MU managed to win the game. Given the oddity of the game is why it is ranked so high.
Injured Mo Watson was 2017. Statistical improbability was 2019. You're confusing our Creighton road wins.
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Still don't get it. To repeat ...
And please re-read the reason the game was ranked 1a (or read it for the first time). The fact that Mo Watson did not play is irrelevant to the reason it is ranked 1a. It was a statistical impossibility that MU managed to win the game. Given the oddity of the game is why it is ranked so high.
They were far more than unbelievably lucky. That game might have set an all-time NCAA standard for a lucky win. That is why it belongs on the list at 1a.
Think you're confusing two different games.
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*Insert goalpost shift here*
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Moral of the story. Wojo has had enough wins over teams he shouldn’t have beaten but did so we can put that criticism to bed.
I would only put Omaha and some Depaul games that he should have won but lost.
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Maybe a Providence or two
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That’s a good angle ... put together a “worst losses” list and post here.
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This is bigger than the other Creighton win because there's no "Mo Watson was injured" excuse. We beat a top 10 team at full strength at their place fair and square (actually it may not have been given those ridiculous refs)
Yeah, but no fans. Imagine how loud that place would have been when Creighton cut the lead from 12 to 1 in about 3 minutes near the end of the game.
Not taking anything away from the win which was fantastic, but road wins (and home losses) are less impressive when the fans aren't there, IMO.
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Still don't get it. To repeat ...
And please re-read the reason the game was ranked 1a (or read it for the first time). The fact that Mo Watson did not play is irrelevant to the reason it is ranked 1a. It was a statistical impossibility that MU managed to win the game. Given the oddity of the game is why it is ranked so high.
They were far more than unbelievably lucky. That game might have set an all-time NCAA standard for a lucky win. That is why it belongs on the list at 1a.
I don't know if you did this on purpose because as Wades mentioned goal post shift or actually didn't know Mo Watson was 2017. Either way, between the two of us I'm not the one with egg on my face.
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Yeah, but no fans. Imagine how loud that place would have been when Creighton cut the lead from 12 to 1 in about 3 minutes near the end of the game.
Not taking anything away from the win which was fantastic, but road wins (and home losses) are less impressive when the fans aren't there, IMO.
So then consider every game this season a 'neutral court' game. Still, two neutral court wins against top-10 teams....
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I don't know if you did this on purpose because as Wades mentioned goal post shift or actually didn't know Mo Watson was 2017. Either way, between the two of us I'm not the one with egg on my face.
Yes, I confused the two games.