Anybody watching Stanford vs UNC where he's literally talking about doing Mushrooms and touring with the Grateful Dead. Has he always done this and I never noticed? How is he still on TV?
He's ridiculous. I would invite a maskless Dickey Simpkins to provide commentary in my living room over listening to Walton. (And I'm not that picky about announcers either.)
EDIT: It's just ESPN schtick. They did the same thing with Vitale, whose genuine enthusiasm was turned into an act. And with Madden, but at least Madden got to finish his career at NBC which showed everyone why he was popular in the first place.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 01, 2020, 03:57:02 PM
Anybody watching Stanford vs UNC where he's literally talking about doing Mushrooms and touring with the Grateful Dead. Has he always done this and I never noticed? How is he still on TV?
The stories are fine if you seldom listen to him. Those that listen often hear the same thing over and over.
The problem is that as an analyst, he doesn't analyze. Tony Romo, meanwhile, goes off on a tangent now and again, but he is as good as it gets as an analyst.
when he's doing a Pac-12 conference game do a shot every time he says "Conference of Champions." If you're alive the next day you've won the game.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 01, 2020, 03:57:02 PM
Anybody watching Stanford vs UNC where he's literally talking about doing Mushrooms and touring with the Grateful Dead. Has he always done this and I never noticed? How is he still on TV?
1. Yes
2. Name recognition
Almost impossible to listen to.
I turned it on with about 6 minutes to go, muted the volume after the 4-minute TV time-out.
It's neither funny nor informative. Just bad.
Wooden: A Coach's Life by Seth Davis is a great book. Really shows what a rectum Walton was during his time at UCLA.
I love Bill Walton games! Funny. Makes me laugh.
Mad props to Jason Benetti for hanging with him. The guy's terrific on White Sox broadcasts and will probably be getting more national games in the coming years.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 01, 2020, 06:04:12 PM
Mad props to Jason Benetti for hanging with him. The guy's terrific on White Sox broadcasts and will probably be getting more national games in the coming years.
Benetti is incredible with him. Especially since he doesn't have the hours and hours of experience handling him like Pasch does. He was great today when Walton was going completely off the range by letting his bizarre thought hang in dead air and then pivoting, not trying to interject and allow him to keep roaming. I mean the dude talked like 2-3 min straight about LA area mountain ranges.
Jason Benetti worked with Walton last year in Maui. Plus, they did a Angels game in 2019.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 01, 2020, 08:29:21 PM
Jason Benetti worked with Walton last year in Maui. Plus, they did a Angels game in 2019.
I think Benetti is head and shoulders above Brian Anderson. Benetti is witty, cultured, and also comes off as a very warm person. BA seems nice enough, but he's very vanilla and wouldn't know a pop culture reference if it took a dump on his forehead. Would like to see Benetti get more love nationally.
Jason Benetti is the nicest person you will ever meet.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 01, 2020, 10:08:49 PM
Jason Benetti is the nicest person you will ever meet.
That's cool to hear, and I'm not surprised.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 01, 2020, 08:29:21 PM
Jason Benetti worked with Walton last year in Maui. Plus, they did a Angels game in 2019.
I wasn't suggesting they were strangers, but that's a wild and difficult personality to wrangle if you've only done a handful of games, like Benetti, and his ease and skill in doing so speaks volumes.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 01, 2020, 09:55:26 PM
I think Benetti is head and shoulders above Brian Anderson. Benetti is witty, cultured, and also comes off as a very warm person. BA seems nice enough, but he's very vanilla and wouldn't know a pop culture reference if it took a dump on his forehead. Would like to see Benetti get more love nationally.
I don't disagree at all. I admit to having a bit of a bias against Anderson cause I always thought he was crap with MU calls despite being local, but while he's competent and versatile, he's just very generic.
Benetti reminds me of of early Matt Vasgerian when he did Brewers games. You just knew he was bigger and destined for more than just local coverage of a single team. Benetti is a bit older and already a bit more established than similar stages, but I'd be shocked if he doesn't move on from the Sox in the next few years cause he's a top tier PBP guy at ESPN. He's fantastic.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 02, 2020, 12:12:04 AM
I don't disagree at all. I admit to having a bit of a bias against Anderson cause I always thought he was crap with MU calls despite being local, but while he's competent and versatile, he's just very generic.
Benetti reminds me of of early Matt Vasgerian when he did Brewers games. You just knew he was bigger and destined for more than just local coverage of a single team. Benetti is a bit older and already a bit more established than similar stages, but I'd be shocked if he doesn't move on from the Sox in the next few years cause he's a top tier PBP guy at ESPN. He's fantastic.
Agree 100% about Vasgersian. Unfortunately, his act has devolved into schtick over the years and he now seems to think people are tuning in as much to see him as to watch the game. I don't think the same thing will happen to Benetti.
If you want a great laugh, though, look up "Drunk Rick Sutcliffe" on YouTube. Vasgersian is absolutely priceless trying to reign Sut in.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 02, 2020, 08:35:42 AM
Agree 100% about Vasgersian. Unfortunately, his act has devolved into schtick over the years and he now seems to think people are tuning in as much to see him as to watch the game. I don't think the same thing will happen to Benetti.
If you want a great laugh, though, look up "Drunk Rick Sutcliffe" on YouTube. Vasgersian is absolutely priceless trying to reign Sut in.
my favorite Vasgersian moment was his first season (I think 1999):
Bill Schroeder: "Don't forget to sign up for the Brewers fantasy camp, coming this February."
Vasgersian: "is that baseball or any fantasy? Because I've got one with that Britney Spears."
silence from Schroder and then after 5-10 seconds Vasgersian says "yeah!"
Bennetti reminds me of Dan Schulman, who was able to reign in Vitale too.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 02, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
my favorite Vasgersian moment was his first season (I think 1999):
Bill Schroeder: "Don't forget to sign up for the Brewers fantasy camp, coming this February."
Vasgersian: "is that baseball or any fantasy? Because I've got one with that Britney Spears."
silence from Schroder and then after 5-10 seconds Vasgersian says "yeah!"
Bennetti reminds me of Dan Schulman, who was able to reign in Vitale too.
Anyone remember this?
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2018/09/14/matt-vasgersian-yelled-reds-thats-way-beer-vendor/1305615002/
"Hey buddy, there's a game going on!!"
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 02, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
my favorite Vasgersian moment was his first season (I think 1999):
Bill Schroeder: "Don't forget to sign up for the Brewers fantasy camp, coming this February."
Vasgersian: "is that baseball or any fantasy? Because I've got one with that Britney Spears."
silence from Schroder and then after 5-10 seconds Vasgersian says "yeah!"
Bennetti reminds me of Dan Schulman, who was able to reign in Vitale too.
Bill Schroeder strikes me as a humorless oaf with a PG sense of humor, which is probably why he co-exists so well with BA. I'm guessing he didn't enjoy working with Vasgersian all that much. Only in Milwaukee could a guy like Schroeder have a job in TV for 30 years.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 02, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Only in Milwaukee could a guy like Schroeder have a job in TV for 30 years.
Please. Have you heard some of these guys?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 02, 2020, 04:34:28 PM
Please. Have you heard some of these guys?
I was shocked to learn the Brewers were pretty regularly viewed as having one of the top TV announcers. Then I listened to a few others and they were pretty brutal.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 02, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Bill Schroeder strikes me as a humorless oaf with a PG sense of humor, which is probably why he co-exists so well with BA. I'm guessing he didn't enjoy working with Vasgersian all that much. Only in Milwaukee could a guy like Schroeder have a job in TV for 30 years.
Dude, I love Schroeder (and John McGlockin and Jim Paschke).
Maybe it's just familiarity.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on December 02, 2020, 04:06:01 PM
Bill Schroeder strikes me as a humorless oaf with a PG sense of humor, which is probably why he co-exists so well with BA. I'm guessing he didn't enjoy working with Vasgersian all that much. Only in Milwaukee could a guy like Schroeder have a job in TV for 30 years.
Dullness, thy name is Bill Schroeder.
Brewers figured a forgettable catcher named Bob Uecker became a legend, so that must be the formula, hence Schroeder. Fans can look forward to Chad Moeller taking over when Schroeder retires
Shroeder is fine. He's not the best, but he's far from the worst.
What about Lavin?
I like him, he has creds., but?
Please stop the non-stop talking.
Do these guys get paid by the word count?
I can't consentrate on the game with all the blather.
Do I have to hear everything he knows on ever broadcast?
We get it, you know a lot, you coached a lot, but please, consentrate on the game at hand.
O.K., got that off my chest.
Thank God my clicker has a mute button.
Grate poem, hey?
Look out brother, next time I'll try rap.
Surprised I haven't seen any on MUScoop.
Wee could due a duet. Eye'll ad motherfooker after each verse, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 03, 2020, 08:15:32 AM
Wee could due a duet. Eye'll ad motherfooker after each verse, hey?
Still not funny. Or creative. Or original for that matter.
Quote from: Jables1604 on December 03, 2020, 08:45:28 AM
Still not funny. Or creative. Or original for that matter.
I agree, but as Miles would say, So What.
Just turn your back on the cat and play.
I play a little jazz trumpet, everyone has an instrument.
Anyone else hear Walton ask during the UNC/Stanford game (when Butler U. came up in the conversation) "Brad Stevens isn't still coaching at Butler, is he?"
I'm showing my age with this one but waaaay back when Roger Staubach was QB at Dallas, Brett Mussberger's co-announcer, a former FB player, commented on the way Staubach returned to the huddle, saying "Roger runs like a sissy."
Long pause. Mussberger finally replied "WHAT did you say?" The guy repeated it. Another long pause. Then Mussberger asked "When you played football, did you wear a helmet?"
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 01, 2020, 04:10:47 PM
It's just ESPN schtick. They did the same thing with Vitale, whose genuine enthusiasm was turned into an act.
I was the mascot at the 2006 CBE when Marquette played Duke and Vitale and Shulman were on the call. They called me over to sit behind them in the stands as they recorded a segment. Vitale was a regular guy and talked to people like a normal human being but as soon as those lights came on he turned it up to 11 with all of his yelling and over the top nonsense. Once they stopped filming he was back to his normal self. It has to be exhausting doing that act every time you are on camera.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 03, 2020, 02:32:36 PM
I was the mascot at the 2006 CBE when Marquette played Duke and Vitale and Shulman were on the call. They called me over to sit behind them in the stands as they recorded a segment. Vitale was a regular guy and talked to people like a normal human being but as soon as those lights came on he turned it up to 11 with all of his yelling and over the top nonsense. Once they stopped filming he was back to his normal self. It has to be exhausting doing that act every time you are on camera.
It made him a ton of money and got him into the Basketball and College Basketball Hall of Fame.
I remember seeing an old ESPN Classic broadcast of a game Vitale was doing in the early 80's. No screaming, no catchphrases, just analysis, and observations.
Quote from: vogue65 on December 03, 2020, 06:31:30 AM
What about Lavin?
I like him, he has creds., but?
Please stop the non-stop talking.
Do these guys get paid by the word count?
I can't consentrate on the game with all the blather.
Do I have to hear everything he knows on ever broadcast?
We get it, you know a lot, you coached a lot, but please, consentrate on the game at hand.
O.K., got that off my chest.
Thank God my clicker has a mute button.
Not to sounds like Chicos here, but knowing Lavin personally, that's who he is. A 5 minute conversation with him would go 20 with multiple tangents. He's a good dude though.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 03, 2020, 04:01:01 PM
It made him a ton of money and got him into the Basketball and College Basketball Hall of Fame.
I remember seeing an old ESPN Classic broadcast of a game Vitale was doing in the early 80's. No screaming, no catchphrases, just analysis, and observations.
Not to sounds like Chicos here, but knowing Lavin personally, that's who he is. A 5 minute conversation with him would go 20 with multiple tangents. He's a good dude though.
I like Lavin. Kind of a sleaze as a coach, but a college basketball lifer who loves the game and doesn't think his word is law, like Bilas does.
Bilas is great. He can get on a high horse at times but overall he's informative and entertaining. Lavin is solid.
I just hope these guys can do it from the arena. I'm assuming they're doing it from somewhere they do not need to travel far to? And that travel is the reason they aren't doing it from the arena? Otherwise I'd think they could very easily call it from 20 rows up and be plenty distanced. It was brutal having them call it from outside of the arena on Tuesday. And it's really not their fault.
Quote from: BLM on December 03, 2020, 06:56:25 PM
Bilas is great. He can get on a high horse at times but overall he's informative and entertaining. Lavin is solid.
I just hope these guys can do it from the arena. I'm assuming they're doing it from somewhere they do not need to travel far to? And that travel is the reason they aren't doing it from the arena? Otherwise I'd think they could very easily call it from 20 rows up and be plenty distanced. It was brutal having them call it from outside of the arena on Tuesday. And it's really not their fault.
I was watching W.V. vs. Gonzaga tonight and Bilas was doing an actual play by play. Refreshing.
He was remote and there was no fake, distracting crowd noise. You would think the young producers would be against 1960's canned sound tracks. Perhaps they have watched too many sitcoms or game shows.
Quote from: BLM on December 03, 2020, 06:56:25 PM
I just hope these guys can do it from the arena. I'm assuming they're doing it from somewhere they do not need to travel far to? And that travel is the reason they aren't doing it from the arena? Otherwise I'd think they could very easily call it from 20 rows up and be plenty distanced. It was brutal having them call it from outside of the arena on Tuesday. And it's really not their fault.
Agreed, not only is the vibe off, but they miss blatant plays and call fouls the wrong way cause they can't see or hear the referees. It's jarring. It's inconsistent cause some games have them in person, others don't, they should be able to be there.
Quote from: vogue65 on December 03, 2020, 10:06:00 PM
I was watching W.V. vs. Creighton tonight and Bilas was doing an actual play by play. Refreshing.
He was remote and there was no fake, distracting crowd noise. You would think the young producers would be against 1960's canned sound tracks. Perhaps they have watched too many sitcoms or game shows.
That's not the producers or the network, the crowd noise is pumped in at the game to try and make it sound or feel a bit more normal for the players. It's been true across sports.
That's not the producers or the network, the crowd noise is pumped in at the game to try and make it sound or feel a bit more normal for the players. It's been true across sports.
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There was no fake crowd noise at the W.V. GONZAGA game, (Jimmy V. Classic). For me, it was better.
Quote from: vogue65 on December 04, 2020, 01:18:26 AM
That's not the producers or the network, the crowd noise is pumped in at the game to try and make it sound or feel a bit more normal for the players. It's been true across sports.
There was no fake crowd noise at the W.V. GONZAGA game, (Jimmy V. Classic). For me, it was better.
Totally fine, and makes sense as it was a neutral court. But the point remains it's not producers replicating laugh tracks from game shows
LOVE Bill Walton. I've seen him at Dead shows a few times but haven't had the chance to talk to him. When I do get to talk to him first thing I'm gonna bring up is Maurice Lucas and then let him go from there
I'm in the minority I guess, I appreciate the crowd noise. I prefer that to hearing a bunch of shoes squeaking for 40 minutes. Feels weird watching a game with no ambient noise.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2020, 11:36:45 AM
Totally fine, and makes sense as it was a neutral court. But the point remains it's not producers replicating laugh tracks from game shows
1. Tune DOWN the fake crowd noise.
2. Tune up the play by play.
3. Use the arena announcer, with the loud reverb if you must, to highlight plays and give credit for plays.
4. It's a learning curve and not as easy as it looks.
5. I agree, it's producers not yet knowing what they are doing.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 05, 2020, 07:53:54 AM
I'm in the minority I guess, I appreciate the crowd noise. I prefer that to hearing a bunch of shoes squeaking for 40 minutes. Feels weird watching a game with no ambient noise.
I don't mind having something to cover the squeaking shoes and such, but it'd be nice if they could do better than a mostly constant din, and turn up the cheers when the home team goes on a run or hits a big shot. It's 2020 - I can't believe Fox, ESPN and the other big networks couldn't do that with a simple soundboard....
I think they should pump in classical music to have them play to. See how that effects opposing teams
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2020, 12:43:00 PM
I think they should pump in classical music to have them play to. See how that effects opposing teams
Ha, that reminds me. Back in high school, had a volleyball match against a school that played classical music when it was our turn for warmups.
Next time they came to play at our place, coaches had a special soundtrack lined up for them. The only song I remember from that list was the one they opened with, Old Man River.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 07, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
Ha, that reminds me. Back in high school, had a volleyball match against a school that played classical music when it was our turn for warmups.
Next time they came to play at our place, coaches had a special soundtrack lined up for them. The only song I remember from that list was the one they opened with, Old Man River.
I laughed at this!
I remember my first HS road game and when we came out the band had a guitarist and played Iron Man. That was cool (we got killed too and the bastards pressed us the entire game).
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 07, 2020, 03:12:34 PM
I laughed at this!
I remember my first HS road game and when we came out the band had a guitarist and played Iron Man. That was cool (we got killed too and the bastards pressed us the entire game).
Did you play ball in the twin cities. Cause our band definitely had a guitarist and we played iron man every game
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 07, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
Ha, that reminds me. Back in high school, had a volleyball match against a school that played classical music when it was our turn for warmups.
Next time they came to play at our place, coaches had a special soundtrack lined up for them. The only song I remember from that list was the one they opened with, Old Man River.
When I was on the Club MULax team at MU there were a few games that we blasted Love Story by Taylor Swift before hand and I vividly remember whoever we were playing just staring at us like we were lunatics during warm ups
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I'm ready, I hope you are ready!! 8-)
Tonight, please, no "big fella" comments.
The big fella did this and the big fella did that, over and over.
I'm such a curmudgeon.
Quote from: swoopem on December 04, 2020, 02:14:05 PM
LOVE Bill Walton. I've seen him at Dead shows a few times but haven't had the chance to talk to him. When I do get to talk to him first thing I'm gonna bring up is Maurice Lucas and then let him go from there
I saw him at Dead and co. at Wrigley a few years back. Look at his left hand.
If you bring up Bob Dylan you'll never get away from him.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on December 03, 2020, 12:12:50 PM
Anyone else hear Walton ask during the UNC/Stanford game (when Butler U. came up in the conversation) "Brad Stevens isn't still coaching at Butler, is he?"
I'm showing my age with this one but waaaay back when Roger Staubach was QB at Dallas, Brett Mussberger's co-announcer, a former FB player, commented on the way Staubach returned to the huddle, saying "Roger runs like a sissy."
Long pause. Mussberger finally replied "WHAT did you say?" The guy repeated it. Another long pause. Then Mussberger asked "When you played football, did you wear a helmet?"
I liked Roger Staubach a lot, but I do understand the comment from the former player about Roger sashaying into the huddle. Never quite understood how such a manly man had that one less than manly aspect.
Quote from: We R Final Four on December 10, 2020, 03:52:01 PM
I saw him at Dead and co. at Wrigley a few years back. Look at his left hand.
If you bring up Bob Dylan you'll never get away from him.
was he trippin'?
I was not a fan of Walton as a player, but he's really grown on me as an announcer over the years to the point that I'd call him a National Treasure.
Having said that, I prefer to listen to him when my team's not playing because his tangents too often obscure the game.
It has become borderline impossible for me to watch a game with Walton as "analyst," and that will be doubly so with Marquette playing.
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on December 11, 2020, 11:47:20 AM
was he trippin'?
Well, he was dancing around like a maniac during Sugar Mags.
Quote from: MU82 on December 11, 2020, 12:48:15 PM
It has become borderline impossible for me to watch a game with Walton as "analyst," and that will be doubly so with Marquette playing.
I'm good for about half the game. Then he will annoy the living sh!t out of me to the point where I will probably have to mute the audio
I never understood people muting audio. I bet nobody really does it.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 11, 2020, 08:18:59 PM
I never understood people muting audio. I bet nobody really does it.
Not often but I will put headphones on and listen to music on occasion.
So far Walton entertaining. Rare someone knows this much MU history.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 11, 2020, 08:48:32 PM
So far Walton entertaining. Rare someone knows this much MU history.
Indeed, Bill really did love Maurice Lucas.
Named his son after #20, hey?
Normally I'd change the channel or turn the TV off if Walton is doing a game. This time I had to resort to muting.
SO bad.
Conference of Champions! Lol. ;)
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 11, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
Conference of Champions! Lol. ;)
Unmuted the last 2 minutes. When he actually should pay attention to the game (and he mostly did).
Bill was great. He knew more about MU history than almost any other announcer. Yes, rando tangents.
Also, him putting officials on blast by name was fantastic. Pac 12 refs are brutal all the way around.
Go eat some brownies and mellow out.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 11, 2020, 08:18:59 PM
I never understood people muting audio. I bet nobody really does it.
Not Walton related, but I will watch many games on mute. Sound is fine, but I don't have to have it. Sometimes if there is a play by play person or analyst, whose work I don't care for, it'll be a mute game for me. (any sport) And, there are "lower sound" games too. Sound on, but not at a normal or higher level. It depends on the game. And of course, there are many others, whose work I enjoy and appreciate with sound up. It depends on the play by play person and analyst. (I don't watch much pregame, halftime, post game, sideline etc but I do pay a lot of attention to pxp and analyst and my sound viewing varies.)
Quote from: Chili on December 11, 2020, 10:49:37 PM
Bill was great. He knew more about MU history than almost any other announcer. Yes, rando tangents.
Why do I care if an announcer knows the history of Marquette from 40-50 years ago?
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 11, 2020, 08:18:59 PM
I never understood people muting audio. I bet nobody really does it.
I actually didn't do it last night. That was the "good" version of Bill Walton. Actually talked about basketball 95% of the time. Where he loses me is when the random thoughts start taking over.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 12, 2020, 08:48:50 AM
I actually didn't do it last night. That was the "good" version of Bill Walton. Actually talked about basketball 95% of the time. Where he loses me is when the random thoughts start taking over.
I can't think of another announcer team where the color guy talks more than the pbp. He is good in doses and he calls them like a fan. But he is a color guy not an analyst. I would not enjoy him during conference games but he was very good in this historic match-up.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 12, 2020, 08:48:50 AM
I actually didn't do it last night. That was the "good" version of Bill Walton. Actually talked about basketball 95% of the time. Where he loses me is when the random thoughts start taking over.
I'm wondering if ESPN tries to have him go off topic more in order to go viral. Or if he's a bit different calling a UCLA game.
Quote from: cheebs09 on December 12, 2020, 10:04:35 AM
I'm wondering if ESPN tries to have him go off topic more in order to go viral. Or if he's a bit different calling a UCLA game.
ESPN did the same with John Madden so that's definitely a possibility.
I usually can't stand him. I didn't mind him last night because while he rambled, at least it was rambling about how much he loves Marquette! Would hate if he regularly announced our games.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 12, 2020, 07:16:19 AM
Why do I care if an announcer knows the history of Marquette from 40-50 years ago?
Yeah, new era now. Fook Al and his statue, too, hey?
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 11, 2020, 08:18:59 PM
I never understood people muting audio. I bet nobody really does it.
You'd lose the bet, Mr. N. I mute it quite often. Muted it last night because I'm not a Bill Walton fan, and mute it every time Dickey calls one of our games.
Like you and most other Scoopers, I am plenty knowledgeable enough about basketball to know what's going on without announcers -- especially those who tend not to tell me what's actually happening on the few plays that matter.
I mean, in non-COVID seasons, I often get together at bars with friends to watch Marquette play, and they usually don't have the volume on. We enjoy it just fine.
If Robinson and Walton were great last night, well, I guess I missed their greatness.
Quote from: MU82 on December 13, 2020, 12:11:03 AM
If Robinson and Walton were great last night, well, I guess I missed their greatness.
For the portions I had unmuted - he certainly waxed poetically about Marquette. So in that way he wasn't bad?
But he certainly didn't do any research into the current roster, previous games, know names, or even pay any attention to the current game. So that part was just as usual.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 13, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
For the portions I had unmuted - he certainly waxed poetically about Marquette. So in that way he wasn't bad?
But he certainly didn't do any research into the current roster, previous games, know names, or even pay any attention to the current game. So that part was just as usual.
I know Marquette history pretty well, so I don't think I missed much.
Quote from: MU82 on December 13, 2020, 02:09:52 PM
I know Marquette history pretty well, so I don't think I missed much.
Walton can be very annoying and even more so without someone skilled like Schulman to pull him back in, but it was cool to hear someone without any ties to the university speak so glowingly and articulately about the program and it's history. It wasn't media guide stuff either, or the standard National/Dickie V "oh my good great friend Al McGuire", it was Major Goolsbys, the student seating at the Mecca, the people MU has put in the pros, etc... For a PAC 12 broadcast, he put a near excessive amount of respect on Marquette's name. And it was clearly from the heart. I honestly would think that UCLA fans watching the game were like "enough about Marquette already".
If your preconceived opinion of him is beyond repair, that's totally fine. But as someone who wasn't looking forward to hearing him spin off the face of the earth like he normally does, I was pleasantly surprised and appreciated his perspective and respect. I also disagree with Rocky, he had some good points about the freshman and Carton and Koby that showed he did some homework. There were a few points where I was like "dude knows basketball and can be really insightful when he's not getting distracted into a story by literally ANYTHING"
Quote from: JWags85 on December 13, 2020, 03:50:24 PM
Walton can be very annoying and even more so without someone skilled like Schulman to pull him back in, but it was cool to hear someone without any ties to the university speak so glowingly and articulately about the program and it's history. It wasn't media guide stuff either, or the standard National/Dickie V "oh my good great friend Al McGuire", it was Major Goolsbys, the student seating at the Mecca, the people MU has put in the pros, etc... For a PAC 12 broadcast, he put a near excessive amount of respect on Marquette's name. And it was clearly from the heart. I honestly would think that UCLA fans watching the game were like "enough about Marquette already".
If your preconceived opinion of him is beyond repair, that's totally fine. But as someone who wasn't looking forward to hearing him spin off the face of the earth like he normally does, I was pleasantly surprised and appreciated his perspective and respect. I also disagree with Rocky, he had some good points about the freshman and Carton and Koby that showed he did some homework. There were a few points where I was like "dude knows basketball and can be really insightful when he's not getting distracted into a story by literally ANYTHING"
+1000. To those who had made up their minds BEFORE the game, he sucked. Rocky panned his performance without even listening!
Those who actually tuned in (other than our resident sourpuss - Fluffy) were generally pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 13, 2020, 07:37:38 PM
Rocky panned his performance without even listening!
Not true. I listened for about 2/3 of the 1st half. It was awful.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 13, 2020, 07:48:30 PM
Not true. I listened for about 2/3 of the 1st half. It was awful.
Rock
Just rewatched about 2/3 of the first half of our NCAA tournament game vs S Carolina. Conclusion? We were really good. S Carolina was awful.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 13, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
For the portions I had unmuted - he certainly waxed poetically about Marquette. So in that way he wasn't bad?
But he certainly didn't do any research into the current roster, previous games, know names, or even pay any attention to the current game. So that part was just as usual.
Bill's quote of the night was referring to Wisconsin as the Gophers.