Lock it if you want, but it must be said, if even once.
To borrow from Hamilton: Winning is easy, old man, governing is harder.
Time to go to work.
Remember, you heard it here first. Your President Elect for 2024, Joe Biden.
The same emotion many Indiana alums/fans had after Miles Brand made the call to FIRE Bobby Knight. Behavior was everything here. Trump was a total putz.
Now hopefully John King can get some much-needed rest...although he may have a body double like Melania who helped out this week
306. And, the winning and losing popular vote difference will be more votes than the total number of votes in 35 individual states.
This is big and important news. Though the announcement was really yesterday when the MUScoop statisticians called it (they aren't to be doubted).
If you can keep it civil, we'll allow it. But little chance of that happening for long.
I'm incredibly relieved. Hopefully for the next 4 years, we can not have to think about politics so much. I know we are polarized, but I really hope Joe Biden's intention of being a president to all the states resonates. We have more in common than what divides us, and while I am definitely on the left end of the Democratic spectrum, there's no reason we can't see progress and a way forward together for everyone on both sides of the aisle.
It's a great day. The video of Van Jones after the announcement was eye opening. The things he talked about are things I've never had to deal with. But they're incredibly important and you can see what this means to him on a personal level. He's one of many.
It's fitting 45 got the greenie weenie while on the golf course, the place he promised he would not be because he'd be too busy working for the American people. Had he held up on his promise we'd have a much better handle on covid and he'd be celebrating a second term.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2020, 12:14:28 PM
I'm incredibly relieved. Hopefully for the next 4 years, we can not have to think about politics so much. I know we are polarized, but I really hope Joe Biden's intention of being a president to all the states resonates. We have more in common than what divides us, and while I am definitely on the left end of the Democratic spectrum, there's no reason we can't see progress and a way forward together for everyone on both sides of the aisle.
I think a lot of republicans who disagree with Joe will still accept this and try to make this country better. I think the nearly 50% that embrace all or part of QAnon will dig even deeper into divisiveness.
As difficult as it might be, I'm trying not to make this too much about the person who lost or any kind of feeling of schadenfreude.
I'm trying real hard to concentrate on the fact that a compassion, decent, hard-working man and a brilliant, talented woman soon will be doing their damnedest to lead our democratic republic back out of the moral, ethical and spiritual abyss.
Have a great weekend, everybody. Time for a beer (or 6)!
Just a reminder, Trump may not concede (he doesn't have to). The electoral college votes on Dec 14. That's essentially the path Gore took in 2000 (conceded on Dec 13).
Quote from: MU82 on November 07, 2020, 12:43:13 PM
As difficult as it might be, I'm trying not to make this too much about the person who lost or any kind of feeling of schadenfreude.
I'm trying real hard to concentrate on the fact that a compassion, decent, hard-working man and a brilliant, talented woman soon will be doing their damnedest to lead our democratic republic back out of the moral, ethical and spiritual abyss.
Have a great weekend, everybody. Time for a beer (or 6)!
First Pres and VP without an Ivy pedigree since 1977-1981.
Didn't think I could admire Van Jones more than already did. I was wrong
It's been inevitable for a couple days. But I'm glad for the result and glad it's over.
Now MU starts in a couple of weeks and we can go back to being separated by what really matters: Projos v. Nojos.
Welcome to the White House, Major and Champ! Reminder that only sociopaths don't like dogs.
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I've been bitten 7 times by dogs. I am not a sociopath, but I am not a pet person.
A great relief!
The next four years will be hard, dealing with a raging pandemic, its economic fallout and a fractured populace. Maybe the biggest sh!tball handed to an incoming President since Carter. Still, at least we have someone who will try to do the right thing, instead of constantly worrying about the 'brand.'
It's a good start....
#guruwatch
I'm in NYC. I was on a Hidden Places of Central Park Tour when news broke. We heard screaming and horns and clapping loudly through the entire park. Our guide and tour group we're ecstatic except one woman who was angry and said Biden "only won by cheating and it will be overturned". The group went quiet and stopped talking about it and she actually just went and left the tour 15 minutes later. City lis peaceful and oud with happiness the entire day and still going.....
Chicago and from what I've seen of many other cities looked like the ending scenes from Star Wars Return of the Jedi where there's celebrations everywhere.
Hope that the right gives him an honest shot with a pandemic going on it's important he gets it.
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 07, 2020, 02:58:05 PM
#guruwatch
He's on Twitter with a Marquette avatar embarrassing anyone with any connection to the university.
Quote from: tower912 on November 07, 2020, 02:28:19 PM
I've been bitten 7 times by dogs. I am not a sociopath, but I am not a pet person.
Damn, tower!
Did those bites happen because they freaked out when you showed up in firefighter gear? Bad luck? Do you give off a bad vibe? Or are you just too damn delicious?
I love dogs, especially larger breeds like retrievers and other working, hunting or sporting pups.
Between innings when I'm umpiring youth baseball, if I see a cute pup, I'll go up to it, talk nice, pet it (though I always ask first), and say to the owner: "Dogs love umpires. That's just science!" It always gets a good laugh.
Quote from: BM1090 on November 07, 2020, 03:07:09 PM
He's on Twitter with a Marquette avatar embarrassing anyone with any connection to the university.
Yeah he apparently doesn't know that the electors have already been chosen by the state legislatures.
Quote from: MU82 on November 07, 2020, 03:13:35 PM
Damn, tower!
Did those bites happen because they freaked out when you showed up in firefighter gear? Bad luck? Do you give off a bad vibe? Or are you just too damn delicious?
I love dogs, especially larger breeds like retrievers and other working, hunting or sporting pups.
Between innings when I'm umpiring youth baseball, if I see a cute pup, I'll go up to it, talk nice, pet it (though I always ask first), and say to the owner: "Dogs love umpires. That's just science!" It always gets a good laugh.
3x when I was a paperboy. 2x by my MIL's dog when we were watching him, he hid under beds, and I had to (at the request of my daughter and wife) go fish him out. Once by the dog of some family friends. Once by a dog who didn't like firefighters.
Thrilled with the outcome. I also think Pence is secretly pleased. If Drumpf had won, for sure he was going to find some way to push Pence out of the way (I always figured that's why he gave him the COVID lead) and set up one of his kids to succeed him in 2024. Now Pence is the prospective GOP nominee (though I don't put it past the family to find a way to maneuver one of their own into the conversation).
The coming days will be very interesting to watch as events play out. The coming pardons, electors playing games, unknown surprises coming our way in the next 73 days, will there be a concession (doubt it), will he even appear at inauguration. That doesn't even take into account the so-far bogus challenges and their eventual resolution.
Again though, I am pleased for the results and congrats to the victors.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 07, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
Chicago and from what I've seen of many other cities looked like the ending scenes from Star Wars Return of the Jedi where there's celebrations everywhere.
Hope that the right gives him an honest shot with a pandemic going on it's important he gets it.
You just described NYC. And still going.
I think spaniel has touched on it. I anticipate chaos and behavior that is (A) unlike anything ever seen before and (B) honestly what we should have expected based on past performance.
Chicago celebrating outside of Trump Tower. Well done.
Pence will not be the 2024 GOP nominee.
I saw a video of a huge party outside the White House when the news came down. And although 45 was on the golf course at the time, his motorcade drove past the party on the ride back.
I'm glad he didn't have the Secret Service tear gas the crowd just for fun....
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 07, 2020, 02:58:05 PM
#guruwatch
Jockey and MU82 can finally stop quaking in their boots about guru "COMING FOR THEM".
I won't actually rest easy until January 20, around 11 am Central time.
I don't think Pence will be the nominee either.
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Quote from: Warriors4ever on November 07, 2020, 04:11:36 PM
I won't actually rest easy until January 20, around 11 am Central time.
I don't think Pence will be the nominee either.
Yeah I mean obviously I'm resting easy knowing that come 1/20/21 45 is out. But how aggressively will Trump set the country ablaze on his way out? That's the scary part.
Quote from: BLM on November 07, 2020, 04:29:04 PM
Yeah I mean obviously I'm resting easy knowing that come 1/20/21 45 is out. But how aggressively will Trump set the country ablaze on his way out? That's the scary part.
I may be proven wrong here, but my suspicion is that once he accepts the inevitable, he's going to pack up and head to Mar-a-Lago. America is going to have an absentee landlord for December and most of January.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 07, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
I may be proven wrong here, but my suspicion is that once he accepts the inevitable, he's going to pack up and head to Mar-a-Lago. America is going to have an absentee landlord for December and most of January.
Apparently he's heading there next weekend.
Quote from: BLM on November 07, 2020, 04:29:04 PM
Yeah I mean obviously I'm resting easy knowing that come 1/20/21 45 is out. But how aggressively will Trump set the country ablaze on his way out? That's the scary part.
I predict we'll find out if a President can legally pardon himself.
It's a good day. January 20th, 2021 will be a great day.
How come none of the Trump slurpers have posted here?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 07, 2020, 05:50:27 PM
How come none of the Trump slurpers have posted here?
One of them is on Twitter calling journalists "b-i-t-c——-"
Georgia by the way...
Biden is now up by 9,160 votes on DT.
Quote from: shoothoops on November 07, 2020, 06:36:56 PM
Georgia by the way...
Biden is now up by 9,160 votes on DT.
But where are all these ballots miraculously showing up from? Illegal votes.
Quote from: BLM on November 07, 2020, 06:39:26 PM
But where are all these ballots miraculously showing up from? Illegal votes.
I know you were kidding, but the new ballots today came mostly from DeKalb and Cobb Counties and a few other smaller counties.
Mighty magnanimous of him...
@bradheath: "Fox News has learned that under some conditions Trump would consider an appropriate transfer of power.
Regardless of what side of the aisle you are on, or what you think about policies. There are certain things we should be able to celebrate.
Biden: Grew up with a stutter. Elected to the Senate, and then 1-month later his wife and 1-year old die in a car accident, with his other two young children injured severely. He was going to resign before even sitting as a Senator. Instead, he takes the train to and from DC every day to raise his two sons. Loses one of those sons to brain cancer later in life. Life-long Catholic. Should be a role model to anyone.
Harris: Daughter of immigrants, Asian and Jamaican ancestry. A women of color, now the vice-president of the United States. Husband, Jewish ancestry. A "Modern Family" representing the diversity of this nation. A role model to anyone and representative of the American Dream.
Quote from: tower912 on November 07, 2020, 03:27:57 PM
I think spaniel has touched on it. I anticipate chaos and behavior that is (A) unlike anything ever seen before and (B) honestly what we should have expected based on past performance.
Weren't people predicting riots when Trump lost? Been pretty peaceful. Many may be hoping for it to get ugly, but it won't and things will transfer peacefully as it has done for the past 240 years.
Quote from: shoothoops on November 07, 2020, 06:36:56 PM
Georgia by the way...
Biden is now up by 9,160 votes on DT.
Update:
Some Fulton County Provisional ballots were not included in last nights totals, and, some ballots were not scanned. Fulton County's results for Friday are being rescanned right now to add these missing ballots.
The 9,160 total difference will likely grow a bit higher when those are completed and added to the total.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on November 07, 2020, 07:00:34 PM
Weren't people predicting riots when Trump lost? Been pretty peaceful. Many may be hoping for it to get ugly, but it won't and things will transfer peacefully as it has done for the past 240 years.
Agreed. And things will settle down further in the coming days as the lawsuits prove to be fruitless.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on November 07, 2020, 07:00:34 PM
Weren't people predicting riots when Trump lost? Been pretty peaceful. Many may be hoping for it to get ugly, but it won't and things will transfer peacefully as it has done for the past 240 years.
I don't think many are or were hoping for it to get ugly. That's a ridiculous thing to say.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 07, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
I may be proven wrong here, but my suspicion is that once he accepts the inevitable, he's going to pack up and head to Mar-a-Lago. America is going to have an absentee landlord for December and most of January.
If Trump has half a brain (and there is no convincing evidence that he does), he'll make a deal with Pence to pardon him for everything, resign the presidency, and disappear. Pence should know he's not the 2024 candidate and his only chance to ever be president would be the next two months.
Quote from: WarriorFan on November 07, 2020, 07:19:49 PM
If Trump has half a brain (and there is no convincing evidence that he does), he'll make a deal with Pence to pardon him for everything, resign the presidency, and disappear. Pence should know he's not the 2024 candidate and his only chance to ever be president would be the next two months.
A federal pardon won't protect him from Letitia James. He'll be under a legal microscope like he's never been before. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Punishing his rampant criminality won't necessarily heal the nation.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2020, 07:25:11 PM
A federal pardon won't protect him from Letitia James. He'll be under a legal microscope like he's never been before. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Punishing his rampant criminality won't necessarily heal the nation.
Also doesn't protect him from the IRS.
https://mobile.twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1325132671140327427
I mean. You cannot even make this up. Staffer schedules a desperation presser at the wrong place and they just have to go through with it. At a landscaping company. It's funnier than a fictional comedy.
40 different states have a population of less than 9 million.
Today, California surpassed 9 million votes for Joe Biden and there are still many votes to count there.
Donald Trump has received more votes in California than the total population of 25 individual states.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 07, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
Chicago and from what I've seen of many other cities looked like the ending scenes from Star Wars Return of the Jedi where there's celebrations everywhere.
Hope that the right gives him an honest shot with a pandemic going on it's important he gets it.
Friends saw fireworks after CNN called it in both London and Manchester.
Not just American's celebrating this.
Sooooooo refreshing...
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 07, 2020, 07:46:10 PM
Sooooooo refreshing...
+1.
His cognitive ability seems just fine to me.
He really sounds mentally compromised :P
So far even Foxnews is speaking positively about his speech.
Quote from: forgetful on November 07, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
So far even Foxnews is speaking positively about his speech.
Have to think the Murdoch's would rather attack Biden's presidency than have to defend Trump's for another 4 years. Will be curious if the 3 clowns of prime time Fox pivot quickly to attacking the future president than fighting to save the current one. That seems a lot simpler
Both speeches were excellent. During Kamala's speech, I turned to my wife and saw her crying. Incredibly powerful and long overdue for 50+% of our population to finally see themselves represented in the White House.
I'd hope after that speech, more republican senators will step forward, congratulate Biden and say they look forward to working with him.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
Both speeches were excellent. During Kamala's speech, I turned to my wife and saw her crying. Incredibly powerful and long overdue for 50+% of our population to finally see themselves represented in the White House.
I had tears in my eyes watching Kamala's speech with my 2 daughters. It means so much to me to see the first female VP and it is such a great example for my daughters.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
Both speeches were excellent. During Kamala's speech, I turned to my wife and saw her crying. Incredibly powerful and long overdue for 50+% of our population to finally see themselves represented in the White House.
My wife pretty much uttered the same thing to me.
Quote from: BLM on November 07, 2020, 07:34:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1325132671140327427
I mean. You cannot even make this up. Staffer schedules a desperation presser at the wrong place and they just have to go through with it. At a landscaping company. It's funnier than a fictional comedy.
A landscaping company...next to a porn shop! ;D
Quote from: Marquette Fan on November 07, 2020, 08:46:19 PM
I had tears in my eyes watching Kamala's speech with my 2 daughters. It means so much to me to see the first female VP and it is such a great example for my daughters.
My eyes welled up thinking about my 14 year old niece, who couldn't watch the early returns as they were in Trump's favor, scared for her future, and my 10 year old niece, who in 2016 asked her mom "why did we have a President who hates me?"
Not anymore, girls. Not anymore.
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I could write jokes for 800 years and I'd never think of something funnier than Trump booking the Four Seasons for his big presser, and it turning out to be the Four Seasons Total Landscaping parking lot between a dildo store and a crematorium.
Loved seeing the Biden and Harris families on the stage with those fireworks going and the music playing. Obviously so much love and togetherness.
And so many Americans could say, "Hey ... they look like me!"
A great end to a great day!
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2020, 07:25:11 PM
A federal pardon won't protect him from Letitia James. He'll be under a legal microscope like he's never been before. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Punishing his rampant criminality won't necessarily heal the nation.
That's sort of the way i felt re Bush/Cheney and the Wall Street crowd . Now I say nuts to that. Letting these bastards off the hook isn't going to heal anything so you might as well go at them 100% and lock them up. We can't let this "rampant criminality" go unpunished.
And investigate Comey while you're at it. Isn't gross incompetence some kind of a felony?
Quote from: shoothoops on November 07, 2020, 07:04:43 PM
Update:
Some Fulton County Provisional ballots were not included in last nights totals, and, some ballots were not scanned. Fulton County's results for Friday are being rescanned right now to add these missing ballots.
The 9,160 total difference will likely grow a bit higher when those are completed and added to the total.
Biden now leads Georgia by 10,195 votes. (Fulton County)
Quote from: shoothoops on November 08, 2020, 07:02:28 AM
Biden now leads Georgia by 10,195 votes. (Fulton County)
While they might conduct some recounts, all of these margins are outside the range where a recount is likely to make any difference.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 08, 2020, 08:03:36 AM
While they might conduct some recounts, all of these margins are outside the range where a recount is likely to make any difference.
Yep. It's all over but the pouting.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 08, 2020, 08:03:36 AM
While they might conduct some recounts, all of these margins are outside the range where a recount is likely to make any difference.
I'll be more comfortable with your statement after the official canvassing. I'm ever freaked out by the small mistake of transposing a number or putting one total in the column for the other guy.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 07, 2020, 07:25:11 PM
A federal pardon won't protect him from Letitia James. He'll be under a legal microscope like he's never been before. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Punishing his rampant criminality won't necessarily heal the nation.
While I understand what you are saying, ignoring criminality only enables it again in the future. If a sitting President can't be indicted while in office (a silly idea IMO that rests upon a single opinion and needs to be reviewed), and then when he leaves office we simply wash our hands of all misdeeds the previous 4 years, then the President is truly above the law and can break any and all laws without repercussion.
If we a nation of laws, they need to apply to a President as well.
Glad Biden won v Trump.
But anyone is kidding themselves to believe a Biden administration (corporatist neoliberal) is going to have significant policy change that will improve the lives of most of us.
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 08, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
Glad Biden won v Trump.
But anyone is kidding themselves to believe a Biden administration (corporatist neoliberal) is going to have significant policy change that will improve the lives of most of us.
I agree but common decency from the office will be refreshing
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 08, 2020, 08:56:39 AM
I agree but common decency from the office will be refreshing
As well as hopefully a better healthcare plan. What is it, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The first part, life, I think includes being as healthy as possible
Quote from: forgetful on November 07, 2020, 08:46:01 PM
I'd hope after that speech, more republican senators will step forward, congratulate Biden and say they look forward to working with him.
I hope someone sprinkles fairy dust on me and I turn into a superhero.
I would love for you to be correct, but...
Quote from: jesmu84 on November 08, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
Glad Biden won v Trump.
But anyone is kidding themselves to believe a Biden administration (corporatist neoliberal) is going to have significant policy change that will improve the lives of most of us.
Biden's term may not yield dramatic policy changes. But the reasons are, in order:
1. The need to dig us out of the huge black hole of the Covid crisis, which will take plenty of time and huge $$$. Nothing significant is going to happen until we make real progress in turning this around.
2. The likelihood that he is fighting against a Republican-controlled Senate and (to a lesser degree) a conservative Supreme Court.
3. Biden's actual policy positions.
If you think an ultra-liberal POTUS would make significant policy headway in his/her first term against these headwinds, I have a bridge to sell you....
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on November 08, 2020, 08:25:30 AM
I'll be more comfortable with your statement after the official canvassing. I'm ever freaked out by the small mistake of transposing a number or putting one total in the column for the other guy.
That type of error rarely happens these days. With the use of voting machines and the double and triple checking that goes on, and how the data is transmitted, large errors like that just don't occur.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 08, 2020, 09:11:26 AM
Biden's term may not yield dramatic policy changes. But the reasons are, in order:
1. The need to dig us out of the huge black hole of the Covid crisis, which will take plenty of time and huge $$$. Nothing significant is going to happen until we make real progress in turning this around.
2. The likelihood that he is fighting against a Republican-controlled Senate and (to a lesser degree) a conservative Supreme Court.
3. Biden's actual policy positions.
If you think an ultra-liberal POTUS would make significant policy headway in his/her first term against these headwinds, I have a bridge to sell you....
You're not wrong.
I just wanted to state what my expectations were going to be.
It's going to be slightly less conservative Trump policies without inciteful tweeting.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 08, 2020, 09:11:26 AM
Biden's term may not yield dramatic policy changes. But the reasons are, in order:
1. The need to dig us out of the huge black hole of the Covid crisis, which will take plenty of time and huge $$$. Nothing significant is going to happen until we make real progress in turning this around.
2. The likelihood that he is fighting against a Republican-controlled Senate and (to a lesser degree) a conservative Supreme Court.
3. Biden's actual policy positions.
If you think an ultra-liberal POTUS would make significant policy headway in his/her first term against these headwinds, I have a bridge to sell you....
Plus, the public hate Biden will feel will be significant. Lots of pundits expect the ex-president to build his own TV network to rival Fox, plus he will tweet numerous dishonest, hate-filled things daily. If this pandemic had happened under his watch, and had the results been the exact same, Citizen Trump would have been firing out dozens of tweets daily about how horribly Biden had messed things up.
One might respond, "So? Who cares what Trump tweets once he's out of the White House?" Well, he has tens of millions of people who believe every word he says, and thousands of them are violent. Additionally, many in Congress will continue following his lead, hoping to ride his brand to long (or longer) political careers. It's been disappointing (but not very surprising) how few Republicans have spoken out against his traitorous statements so far.
We all love the idea of uniting the country, but I have to admit that I'm pretty pessimistic. And I'm an extreme optimist on most things.
Seriously guys... You really don't like nice things do you?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 08, 2020, 10:57:48 AM
Seriously guys... You really don't like nice things do you?
It's probably best that we just not talk politics and focus on whatever the upcoming season turns out to be.
Quote from: Jockey on November 08, 2020, 09:04:15 AM
I hope someone sprinkles fairy dust on me and I turn into a superhero.
I would love for you to be correct, but...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/george-w-bush-congratulates-biden/index.html
This is a pretty big GOP name stepping up and speaking. Hopefully the trend continues.
I hear you can go to Oregon now, and find some fairy mushrooms that may make you feel like a superhero.
January 5th Georgia Senate elections:
Voters have until December 7th to register to vote in Georgia. Early in person voting begins December 14th.
Absentee ballots will be mailed Nov 18th. Tell your friends.
20% higher votes in Presidential Election 2020. 5 million more.
Quote from: forgetful on November 08, 2020, 01:16:38 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/george-w-bush-congratulates-biden/index.html
This is a pretty big GOP name stepping up and speaking. Hopefully the trend continues.
I hear you can go to Oregon now, and find some fairy mushrooms that may make you feel like a superhero.
I'll be able to fly!!!
The reason I posted, though, is cuz a McConnell source said the Senate would not even approve progressives if Biden nominated them for his Cabinet. McConnell will oppose everything -including a Supreme Court Justice if one opens up. As a matter of fact, I think he would not even allow a vote for a progressive justice. Period. No law says he has to.
Quote from: forgetful on November 08, 2020, 01:16:38 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/george-w-bush-congratulates-biden/index.html
This is a pretty big GOP name stepping up and speaking. Hopefully the trend continues.
I hear you can go to Oregon now, and find some fairy mushrooms that may make you feel like a superhero.
Ya.
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1325446106118041602?s=19
But, in general, decent GOP members loved Trump's policy/stances, but disliked Trump. Exhibit A in the link
Quote from: forgetful on November 08, 2020, 01:16:38 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/george-w-bush-congratulates-biden/index.html
This is a pretty big GOP name stepping up and speaking. Hopefully the trend continues.
I hear you can go to Oregon now, and find some fairy mushrooms that may make you feel like a superhero.
The Bushes have been at odds with the emperor for years.
This nation needs some of the Republicans who have generally supported Trump to support America now.