Crean out? I mean you can only pistol whip for so long. If you read James' body language, he didn't have the flu. He's got Creanitis.
I agree totally. They seem mentally drained. Ton of pressure on everyone in the program. They are pressing and they are failing in the process. This week could be the difference between The Big Dance and the NIT.
4 bags of IV fluids today suggest that flu was more likely the culprit then anything else.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 04, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
4 bags of IV fluids today suggest that flu was more likely the culprit then anything else.
Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing anything about the flu. James is becoming more and more of a headcase.
That may be the case, but I can't imagine a doctor / trainer administering iv fluids unless they are called for.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 04, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
4 bags of IV fluids today suggest that flu was more likely the culprit then anything else.
Just curious... how do you know that? If the information was shared with you from a staffer, isn't that a violation of the player's privacy?
I don't know what they expect to gain by tuning out their coach at this point. Especially James. If the guy wants a shot at the NBA, he is going to have to perform here. Right now, what I see is a guy who has outstanding quickness and ball handling but cannot finish under the hoop and can't hit free throws. I'm surprised he's not fouled more, just to take your chances with him at the line instead of hurting you on the field.
If he gets a reputation as a head case, forget it. He can go play in Europe.
Crean said it on the post-game show.
Quote from: Jackson_Downer on February 04, 2008, 08:59:39 PM
I don't know what they expect to gain by tuning out their coach at this point. Especially James. If the guy wants a shot at the NBA, he is going to have to perform here. Right now, what I see is a guy who has outstanding quickness and ball handling but cannot finish under the hoop and can't hit free throws. I'm surprised he's not fouled more, just to take your chances with him at the line instead of hurting you on the field.
If he gets a reputation as a head case, forget it. He can go play in Europe.
Gets a reputation? Hmmm... he has one.
I find it fascinating how the flu seems to affect MU basketball players.
I get the flu and I need to go to Walgreens to buy a couple extra gallons of OJ and tylenol and boxes of kleenix and I'm usually good to go in a 4 days or so.
An MU basketball player gets the flu and he has a bad several months of basketball (Novak) or needs gallons of IV fluid (James).
Not that I have the rigorous schedule of a college basketball player, but I also don't have the medical staff of a college basketball program.
(NOT saying they are making it up, I just find the difference interesting).
Quote from: marqptm on February 04, 2008, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 04, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
4 bags of IV fluids today suggest that flu was more likely the culprit then anything else.
Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing anything about the flu. James is becoming more and more of a headcase.
i agree here. i've never seen a player just given a pass so readily as james. its always something. it was the wrist for a while, even despite playing on the hurt wrist for a couple games, and scoring 19 against depaul-- Its not the wrist! obviously bilas has a man crush on crean and the whole MU program, and he finds a way to dance around the fact that this team just isn't all they are cracked up to be. don't get me wrong, they're an average team, but i'm just sick of espn and other outlets giving this team (and often james) more credit than they deserve.
i'm not going to comment on the flu issue. if he's sick then that sucks, so hopefully he's playing to the best that his health allows.
Quote from: warrior07 on February 04, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
I find it fascinating how the flu seems to affect MU basketball players.
I get the flu and I need to go to Walgreens to buy a couple extra gallons of OJ and tylenol and boxes of kleenix and I'm usually good to go in a 4 days or so.
An MU basketball player gets the flu and he has a bad several months of basketball (Novak) or needs gallons of IV fluid (James).
Not that I have the rigorous schedule of a college basketball player, but I also don't have the medical staff of a college basketball program.
(NOT saying they are making it up, I just find the difference interesting).
Novak did legitimately lose 14 points, and the whole team was dealing with the flu that year. You could see that.
James, I'm 98% sure there is no flu. Just a delicate mental psyche.
I've always wondered .. I'd love to know about other teams and the flu. Does UW or DePaul get whacked as often as we do?
And with the constant flu issues we've had over YEARS .. do they have an anti illness "plan" .. you know, everyone gets a flu shot, teach the guys to wash hands 10 times a day, take vitamin C or whatever. I dunno. It just seems every year, we lose 3-4 guys to the flu, and they are screwed for a week.
.. it's BS to think he doesn't have the flu. Do you really think a doctor is gonna take out a needle and stick a man with an IV if he didn't need it? Please. Just stop.
is anything that is said from MU about the medical condition of a player believable?
i agree here. i've never seen a player just given a pass so readily as james. its always something. it was the wrist for a while, even despite playing on the hurt wrist for a couple games, and scoring 19 against depaul-- Its not the wrist! obviously bilas has a man crush on crean and the whole MU program, and he finds a way to dance around the fact that this team just isn't all they are cracked up to be. don't get me wrong, they're an average team, but i'm just sick of espn and other outlets giving this team (and often james) more credit than they deserve.
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Good point. I'm here yelling and cursing at the TV and Bilas says something like, "Well, nothing coming easy for Marquette tonight." I'm like, "Just say it! Say 'why in the world are you throwing up these desperate looking jumpers with no time on the shot clock!'"
Hey wait, I think MU missed another free throw....
not that I am bitter
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 04, 2008, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: ChuckyChip on February 04, 2008, 09:00:05 PM
Crean said it on the post-game show.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh...
Whoa... said what?
Topper, as for DJ being sick. I am normally someone who will agree with you, but DJ should have been benched after his last two performances. Luckily, he had the flu.
He wasn't dragging an IV bag out of David Straz Hall this morning.
It's not the flu that will prevent him from ever playing a second in the NBA. It's the fact that I'm a better shooter at age 57 than he is right now.
he wasn't out during the initial warmups which makes me think there is some truth to the iv's.
I happened to be walking up 17th this afternoon when i crossed paths w/ DJ. I am not a doctor but he did not look that well
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 04, 2008, 08:25:12 PM
He's got Creanitis.
I think I have it, too...
And my shrink said it's evolving into Creanophobia.
For everyone on this board to be "so-called" adults why do you guys continue to rip on a player from a team that you root for. For 1 I personally know that Dominic has the flu. Maybe the ones who continue to rip the players are really jealous that they couldn't be Division 1 caliber athletes in whatever sport they chose. If I was Dominic i would want to get away from stupid @$$ fans like you guys that only continue to say negative things about him. So maybe you guys should think about what you say about a 21 year kid that is representing the university that you cheer for. So what if he doesn't make it to the NBA he'll have his degree at the end of the year. Pretty damn good for a headcase huh? So in closing, do you guys think the players read these message boards or hear the things you say during games? The answer is yes. But they continue to shake your hands and sign your autographs when 20 minutes before you were saying they suck. Maybe boys and girls the team needs to TUNE OUT THE FANS WHO CONTINUALLY BASH THEM!!!!
Quote from: T_Holmes on February 05, 2008, 12:32:59 PM
For everyone on this board to be "so-called" adults why do you guys continue to rip on a player from a team that you root for. For 1 I personally know that Dominic has the flu. Maybe the ones who continue to rip the players are really jealous that they couldn't be Division 1 caliber athletes in whatever sport they chose. If I was Dominic i would want to get away from stupid @$$ fans like you guys that only continue to say negative things about him. So maybe you guys should think about what you say about a 21 year kid that is representing the university that you cheer for. So what if he doesn't make it to the NBA he'll have his degree at the end of the year. Pretty damn good for a headcase huh? So in closing, do you guys think the players read these message boards or hear the things you say during games? The answer is yes. But they continue to shake your hands and sign your autographs when 20 minutes before you were saying they suck. Maybe boys and girls the team needs to TUNE OUT THE FANS WHO CONTINUALLY BASH THEM!!!!
Good points
Quote from: T_Holmes on February 05, 2008, 12:32:59 PM
For everyone on this board to be "so-called" adults why do you guys continue to rip on a player from a team that you root for. For 1 I personally know that Dominic has the flu. Maybe the ones who continue to rip the players are really jealous that they couldn't be Division 1 caliber athletes in whatever sport they chose. If I was Dominic i would want to get away from stupid @$$ fans like you guys that only continue to say negative things about him. So maybe you guys should think about what you say about a 21 year kid that is representing the university that you cheer for. So what if he doesn't make it to the NBA he'll have his degree at the end of the year. Pretty damn good for a headcase huh? So in closing, do you guys think the players read these message boards or hear the things you say during games? The answer is yes. But they continue to shake your hands and sign your autographs when 20 minutes before you were saying they suck. Maybe boys and girls the team needs to TUNE OUT THE FANS WHO CONTINUALLY BASH THEM!!!!
I Agree.
I don't blame the players, I blame Crean. This season has been one of his worst coaching jobs. I am normally one of his biggest supporters, but he should give his last paycheck back, because the "game plan" he devised for Louisville was beyond stupid. Having all 5 defenders above the freethrow line is a great way to give up easy layups.
As for James and the flu, I do not doubt that he was sick, however, I find it amazing that year in and year out we are ravaged by the flu while I never hear a peep about it elsewhere. Get flu shots fellas. It may not always work, but it is better than nothing.
Quote from: T_Holmes on February 05, 2008, 12:32:59 PM
For everyone on this board to be "so-called" adults why do you guys continue to rip on a player from a team that you root for. For 1 I personally know that Dominic has the flu. Maybe the ones who continue to rip the players are really jealous that they couldn't be Division 1 caliber athletes in whatever sport they chose. If I was Dominic i would want to get away from stupid @$$ fans like you guys that only continue to say negative things about him. So maybe you guys should think about what you say about a 21 year kid that is representing the university that you cheer for. So what if he doesn't make it to the NBA he'll have his degree at the end of the year. Pretty damn good for a headcase huh? So in closing, do you guys think the players read these message boards or hear the things you say during games? The answer is yes. But they continue to shake your hands and sign your autographs when 20 minutes before you were saying they suck. Maybe boys and girls the team needs to TUNE OUT THE FANS WHO CONTINUALLY BASH THEM!!!!
PLAYERS: If you're reading this...stop taking ill advised three pointers. And get the ball to Hayward more often.
They got the ball to Hayward.
He was 2-10 from the field and for some reason wouldn't pull the trigger from deep even though he is a 50 percent 3 point shooter.
Quote from: T_Holmes on February 05, 2008, 12:32:59 PM
For everyone on this board to be "so-called" adults why do you guys continue to rip on a player from a team that you root for. For 1 I personally know that Dominic has the flu. Maybe the ones who continue to rip the players are really jealous that they couldn't be Division 1 caliber athletes in whatever sport they chose. If I was Dominic i would want to get away from stupid @$$ fans like you guys that only continue to say negative things about him. So maybe you guys should think about what you say about a 21 year kid that is representing the university that you cheer for. So what if he doesn't make it to the NBA he'll have his degree at the end of the year. Pretty damn good for a headcase huh? So in closing, do you guys think the players read these message boards or hear the things you say during games? The answer is yes. But they continue to shake your hands and sign your autographs when 20 minutes before you were saying they suck. Maybe boys and girls the team needs to TUNE OUT THE FANS WHO CONTINUALLY BASH THEM!!!!
Totally agree. I can't believe the number of whiny b@*#$& on this board.
BTW - Check out how often after a win posters refer to "us", "our" victory, or "we" in refering to the team. After a loss its all "them", "they", etc. Nice.
Quote from: ToddPacker on February 05, 2008, 12:54:44 PM
I don't blame the players, I blame Crean. This season has been one of his worst coaching jobs. I am normally one of his biggest supporters, but he should give his last paycheck back, because the "game plan" he devised for Louisville was beyond stupid. Having all 5 defenders above the freethrow line is a great way to give up easy layups.
As for James and the flu, I do not doubt that he was sick, however, I find it amazing that year in and year out we are ravaged by the flu while I never hear a peep about it elsewhere. Get flu shots fellas. It may not always work, but it is better than nothing.
The LA Clippers got hit by it. Kaman lost 10 lbs and was out for over a week along with Maggette. It hits people, especially when you have sub-zero temps one week and 40's the next like we have the past few weeks!
Also, I highly doubt Crean is the only one to blame for this. You can coach all you want but if the players dont have the drive to perform it does no good. I've helped coach my brother's baseball teams in the past and there were times when us coaches did our darndest to get the boys to play and execute. Sometimes they just don't have the drive to perform. I don't know if that's the case now but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a deciding factor. We have a few players that, on any given night, show they could make it in the NBA. I hope they aren't getting ahead of themselves and thinking about that already because if they can't finish here at school and play as a team and win the games they are supposed to, let alone compete in them, they are going to have to find a plan B for post college life.
It's not the flu....this team cannot shoot. Simple as that!
Wasn't everyone (almost) giving DJ major ups after he scored 19 last week?
Chill out!!
It seems to me that the students/young alums (07/08) have problems with Dominic James and that enters their thinking with anything that comes up related to James.
I'm not sure they're necessarily off in all cases but after reading the board for some time there does seem to be an underlying theme in certain members' posts.