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Title: Voter Suppression
Post by: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 06:55:59 PM
In the past 7 years, 8 Southern states have closed 1,688 polling places

Voter Suppression thread:

https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1276164964789747712?s=19
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: vogue65 on June 25, 2020, 06:58:39 PM
Quote from: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 06:55:59 PM
In the past 7 years, 8 Southern states have closed 1,688 polling places

Voter Suppression thread:

https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1276164964789747712?s=19

Don't you just love the south?
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: Billy Hoyle on June 25, 2020, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 06:55:59 PM
In the past 7 years, 8 Southern states have closed 1,688 polling places

Voter Suppression thread:

https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1276164964789747712?s=19
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Not just the South. Marquette dropout Scott Walker was notorious for voter suppression tactics. He had the polling station in the AMU removed even though his kid used it to vote.

https://onewisconsinnow.org/scott-walker/voter-suppression/
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: Babybluejeans on June 25, 2020, 07:46:39 PM
It says a lot about your platform when you actively try to block people from voting for or against it. But when even you know the platform is a rotten deal for most people...
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: MU82 on June 25, 2020, 07:48:02 PM
The real voter fraud.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: tower912 on June 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Scott Walker was breaking campaign rules in college.   His surrogates went door to door in the dorms, in violation of ASMU rules.   When the Tribune endorsed his opponent, his surrogates grabbed every copy they could find and threw it in the dumpster.    My opinion of Walker hasn't changed since 1988.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: MU82 on June 25, 2020, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Scott Walker was breaking campaign rules in college.   His surrogates went door to door in the dorms, in violation of ASMU rules.   When the Tribune endorsed his opponent, his surrogates grabbed every copy they could find and threw it in the dumpster.    My opinion of Walker hasn't changed since 1988.

Reprehensible. I celebrated with a nice, cold beer when he lost ... and I haven't lived in Wisconsin for decades.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: GB Warrior on June 25, 2020, 08:18:52 PM
A good history of the wagon the GOP is hitched to

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-choice/ (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-choice/)
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 25, 2020, 08:35:28 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 25, 2020, 08:13:46 PM
Reprehensible. I celebrated with a nice, cold beer when he lost ... and I haven't lived in Wisconsin for decades.


Kinda the way I feel 'bout da numb skull currently livin' off the citizenry in Madison. Woodant celebrate wit beer, doe. Ewe no, itz da grains and such, aina?
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: Pakuni on June 25, 2020, 08:39:08 PM
Sen. Tom Cotton sure said some things today about what kind of people do and what kind of people do not deserve political representation.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: MU82 on June 25, 2020, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 25, 2020, 08:39:08 PM
Sen. Tom Cotton sure said some things today about what kind of people do and what kind of people do not deserve political representation.

"Well-rounded working-class city."

Even in 2020, the dog whistle sounds loud and clear.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 25, 2020, 08:39:08 PM
Sen. Tom Cotton sure said some things today about what kind of people do and what kind of people do not deserve political representation.

Tom Cotton is a terrible human being.

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1276249012983619584?s=19

D.C. Taxation without representation. Make it a state. D.C. pays more taxes than 21 states. It has a budget larger than 14 states.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: Jables1604 on June 25, 2020, 11:34:03 PM
Quote from: tower912 on June 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Scott Walker was breaking campaign rules in college.   His surrogates went door to door in the dorms, in violation of ASMU rules.   When the Tribune endorsed his opponent, his surrogates grabbed every copy they could find and threw it in the dumpster.    My opinion of Walker hasn't changed since 1988.
Walker was the guy who carried a briefcase instead of a book bag. My roommate was editor of the Marquette Tribune when all of that election stuff went down.

We still joke about what a no-talent assclown Walker was/is.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: MU82 on June 26, 2020, 05:00:17 AM
Quote from: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
Tom Cotton is a terrible human being.

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1276249012983619584?s=19

D.C. Taxation without representation. Make it a state. D.C. pays more taxes than 21 states. It has a budget larger than 14 states.

Agree. But even if one doesn't think DC should be a state, don't be an effen racist about it. He's supposed to be a leader.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: mu03eng on June 26, 2020, 06:44:21 AM
Quote from: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 10:11:46 PM

D.C. Taxation without representation. Make it a state. D.C. pays more taxes than 21 states. It has a budget larger than 14 states.

Then make PR, Guam, VI, American Samoa, and Northern Marianas all states. They pay taxes to the US treasury, why not make them states as well?
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: Pakuni on June 26, 2020, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: mu03eng on June 26, 2020, 06:44:21 AM
Then make PR, Guam, VI, American Samoa, and Northern Marianas all states. They pay taxes to the US treasury, why not make them states as well?

I believe you're mistaken on federal taxes paid by those in the territories.  It's a little different for each, but generally speaking, those residents do not fund the federal government, at least not in the way those in DC do. Most either don't pay federal taxes or the federal taxes collected fund local government.

Regardless, there are reasonable arguments for and against DC statehood. That its residents aren't "well-rounded" and "working class" enough (woof woof) isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on June 26, 2020, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
Tom Cotton is a terrible human being.
I feel like Amazon missed out on their chance to cast Cotton as Obergruppenfuhrer Smith in Man in the High Castle. Probably already had the wardrobe too.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 26, 2020, 08:24:23 AM
Quote from: mu03eng on June 26, 2020, 06:44:21 AM
Then make PR, Guam, VI, American Samoa, and Northern Marianas all states. They pay taxes to the US treasury, why not make them states as well?

PR has a referendum this November on statehood.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 26, 2020, 08:30:38 AM
Quote from: tower912 on June 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Scott Walker was breaking campaign rules in college.   His surrogates went door to door in the dorms, in violation of ASMU rules.   When the Tribune endorsed his opponent, his surrogates grabbed every copy they could find and threw it in the dumpster.    My opinion of Walker hasn't changed since 1988.

tower - I know we discussed this one before but that election, Junior year my friend being one of his surrogates, brought him to my apartment to meet the six of us "to drum up support for Scott from off-campus students."  (We were all McCormick 9th floor wing-mates as Freshman.)  Scott told us "He was going to do to Marquette what Reagan did for America!"  Bizarre statement I could never forget. 

I have other earlier times I have met him which I won't go into here.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: mu03eng on June 26, 2020, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 26, 2020, 08:24:23 AM
PR has a referendum this November on statehood.

PR will never seek statehood on it's own. Having spent a lot of time there for work, there are 3 primary constituencies of PR: pro-state, con-state, and status quo. The status quo floats to whatever side of the vote maintains the status quo and so statehood or independence can never happen in PR.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: mu03eng on June 26, 2020, 08:45:54 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 26, 2020, 07:24:10 AM
I believe you're mistaken on federal taxes paid by those in the territories.  It's a little different for each, but generally speaking, those residents do not fund the federal government, at least not in the way those in DC do. Most either don't pay federal taxes or the federal taxes collected fund local government.

Regardless, there are reasonable arguments for and against DC statehood. That its residents aren't "well-rounded" and "working class" enough (woof woof) isn't one of them.

You are correct, there are definitely nuances to each territory that make each somewhat unique. I also agree any argument regarding the quality of the citizenry as a basis for "statehood" is just stupid, I mean, we aren't planning to kick Jacksonville out of the US to my awareness.

I was trying to make the larger point that those who advocate for DC statehood but not other territories are doing so in a naked effort to expand the senate in the hope that a certain party benefits from that expansion. It's hypocritical at best, if your argument is that the senate "over-represents" small states, (I'm open to this over-representation argument in general), and your solution is to add more senators representing a small constituency. Yes DC pays more in taxes than a handfull of states, but the population would only be larger than that of Wyoming.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: vogue65 on June 26, 2020, 09:10:43 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 25, 2020, 07:42:21 PM
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Not just the South. Marquette dropout Scott Walker was notorious for voter suppression tactics. He had the polling station in the AMU removed even though his kid used it to vote.

https://onewisconsinnow.org/scott-walker/voter-suppression/

The exception proves the rule.
At least Wisconsin is pushing back.
Congratulations Wisconsin, Mr. Walker is on the dust heap of history, now keep him there.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: vogue65 on June 26, 2020, 09:12:30 AM
Quote from: tower912 on June 25, 2020, 07:59:23 PM
Scott Walker was breaking campaign rules in college.   His surrogates went door to door in the dorms, in violation of ASMU rules.   When the Tribune endorsed his opponent, his surrogates grabbed every copy they could find and threw it in the dumpster.    My opinion of Walker hasn't changed since 1988.

We had his ilk in 1965, John Birch etc..
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: vogue65 on June 26, 2020, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: shoothoops on June 25, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
Tom Cotton is a terrible human being.

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1276249012983619584?s=19

D.C. Taxation without representation. Make it a state. D.C. pays more taxes than 21 states. It has a budget larger than 14 states.

How true, keep the facts coming in.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: vogue65 on June 26, 2020, 09:22:12 AM
Quote from: mu03eng on June 26, 2020, 06:44:21 AM
Then make PR, Guam, VI, American Samoa, and Northern Marianas all states. They pay taxes to the US treasury, why not make them states as well?

Typical argument, change the subject, false equivalency.
Perhaps you are sincere, how about combining our far flung navy bases as a state?
Can't do that, too many brown people, too many catholics.
Title: Re: Voter Suppression
Post by: rocky_warrior on June 26, 2020, 09:23:22 AM
I appreciate that voter suppression is a topic that is worthy of discussion in the US.  However, it is obviously political.  Sorry.
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