I just spoke to my good friend who coaches Dawson at Prior Lake High School. I asked him about the recent Marquette swoon and Dawson's feelings about it. I was told Dawson is excited to join the team and he's especially eager to play for Wojo. My buddy told me the only way Dawson would reconsider playing for Marquette is a Wojo departure from the school.
The biggest selling point for Dawson was hearing his future coach outline a clear plan for his role in the program. The kid clearly likes Wojo and the two communicate on a consistent basis. Dawson is aware of Marquette's recent struggles, but he's given zero consideration to looking elsewhere as long as Wojo is the head coach. He wants to play for the guy who sold him on becoming a member of the Marquette basketball family. His commitment remains steadfast.
Ok?
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Quote from: #UnleashJayce on March 11, 2020, 10:25:17 PM
Ok?
That's good news. Wojo will not be fired so unless you want the program to tank this is good information. Am I missing something as to why you don't get that this is good information to share?
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2020, 10:21:59 PM
I just spoke to my good friend who coaches Dawson at Prior Lake High School. I asked him about the recent Marquette swoon and Dawson's feelings about it. I was told Dawson is excited to join the team and he's especially eager to play for Wojo. My buddy told me the only way Dawson would reconsider playing for Marquette is a Wojo departure from the school.
The biggest selling point for Dawson was hearing his future coach outline a clear plan for his role in the program. The kid clearly likes Wojo and the two communicate on a consistent basis. Dawson is aware of Marquette's recent struggles, but he's given zero consideration to looking elsewhere as long as Wojo is the head coach. He wants to play for the guy who sold him on becoming a member of the Marquette basketball family. His commitment remains steadfast.
I thought maybe WE might reconsider since Dawson could't win the state title.
I posted this because there are numerous comments on other threads about potential second thoughts of our recruits if Wojo remains the head coach. I can share from at least one recruit's perspective that he would only ask the school to release him from his commitment if the coach moves on. These kids want to play for Wojo. I was looking forward to talking to Dawson myself in Houston next month at the McDonald's All American game, but that event will most likely be cancelled.
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
I shared this because there are numerous comments on other threads about potential second thoughts of our recruits if Wojo remains the head coach. I can share from at least one recruit's perspective that he would only ask the school to release him from his commitment if the coach moves on. These kids want to play for Wojo. I was looking forward to talking to Dawson myself in Houston next month at the McDonald's All American game, but that event will most likely be cancelled.
Did he mention anything about having "the ultimate green light?"
It's good information. People are just being douche bags.
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
I posted this because there are numerous comments on other threads about potential second thoughts of our recruits if Wojo remains the head coach. I can share from at least one recruit's perspective that he would only ask the school to release him from his commitment if the coach moves on. These kids want to play for Wojo. I was looking forward to talking to Dawson myself in Houston next month at the McDonald's All American game, but that event will most likely be cancelled.
Thanks for sharing Brad. Know plenty of people appreciate the update.
Anyone who is not happy with this is not a warrior fan. I guess Xavier and Georgetown should be looking for new coaches since they lost to lower seeds !! That is the logic of the nojo's on this board
What does Stan Laws have to say? Any video, kin?
No crap.
Look recruits (and their parents) care about one thing: them
great update... thanks
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2020, 10:21:59 PM
I just spoke to my good friend who coaches Dawson at Prior Lake High School. I asked him about the recent Marquette swoon and Dawson's feelings about it. I was told Dawson is excited to join the team and he's especially eager to play for Wojo. My buddy told me the only way Dawson would reconsider playing for Marquette is a Wojo departure from the school.
The biggest selling point for Dawson was hearing his future coach outline a clear plan for his role in the program. The kid clearly likes Wojo and the two communicate on a consistent basis. Dawson is aware of Marquette's recent struggles, but he's given zero consideration to looking elsewhere as long as Wojo is the head coach. He wants to play for the guy who sold him on becoming a member of the Marquette basketball family. His commitment remains steadfast.
Would anyone in their right mind expect anything different?
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
I posted this because there are numerous comments on other threads about potential second thoughts of our recruits if Wojo remains the head coach. I can share from at least one recruit's perspective that he would only ask the school to release him from his commitment if the coach moves on. These kids want to play for Wojo. I was looking forward to talking to Dawson myself in Houston next month at the McDonald's All American game, but that event will most likely be cancelled.
Kind of crazy, out last two McD All-Americans likely won't play in the game. Henry had an injured wrist/hand and now this.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 07:13:35 AM
Would anyone in their right mind expect anything different?
Nope
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 07:13:35 AM
Would anyone in their right mind expect anything different?
I don't know about their state of mind, but multiple posters have claimed our recruits wouldn't be coming if Wojo remains the coach next year.
Quote from: pettyworld on March 12, 2020, 08:28:39 AM
I don't know about their state of mind, but multiple posters have claimed our recruits wouldn't be coming if Wojo remains the coach next year.
I think it's safe to make assumptions about the state of mind of those posters.
I'm happy to hear that he's still excited to be a Golden Eagle. As the team stumbled down the stretch, it was easy to let doubt creep in that this could have effects beyond this season, whether that be for recruiting, coaching, attendance, whatever. So confirmation that a guy who is expected to be a big part of our future is still planning for that too is comforting. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 07:13:35 AM
Would anyone in their right mind expect anything different?
Pointwarrior and others speculating they are decommiting.
This also flies directly in the face of the "promote Stan to HC to keep our recruiting class" myth.
Quote from: pettyworld on March 12, 2020, 08:28:39 AM
I don't know about their state of mind, but multiple posters have claimed our recruits wouldn't be coming if Wojo remains the coach next year.
Qualifies as one of the most stupid things said on this board, incredibly difficult achievement
Quote from: bradforster on March 11, 2020, 10:21:59 PM
I just spoke to my good friend who coaches Dawson at Prior Lake High School. I asked him about the recent Marquette swoon and Dawson's feelings about it. I was told Dawson is excited to join the team and he's especially eager to play for Wojo. My buddy told me the only way Dawson would reconsider playing for Marquette is a Wojo departure from the school.
The biggest selling point for Dawson was hearing his future coach outline a clear plan for his role in the program. The kid clearly likes Wojo and the two communicate on a consistent basis. Dawson is aware of Marquette's recent struggles, but he's given zero consideration to looking elsewhere as long as Wojo is the head coach. He wants to play for the guy who sold him on becoming a member of the Marquette basketball family. His commitment remains steadfast.
Sew, Dawson's bin anointed da next Markus, aina?
Quote from: lurch91 on March 12, 2020, 09:55:13 AM
This also flies directly in the face of the "promote Stan to HC to keep our recruiting class" myth.
Not really. You miss the point. The point is this:
1) Wojo has had 6 years to show us what he can accomplish. He's performed worse than any coach at MU since Dukiet. He's not the answer. Not the guy. You don't keep a coach for one recruit, even if a 5-star. He's had a 5 star before. He's had Markus. We ain't won jack.
2) We currently have a talented recruiter and sharp assistant coach on the bench, who would give the program the best chance to retain this recruiting class, possibly including Dawson. (Perhaps Brad can ask his friends if Dawson has any relationship/thoughts about Stan?)
Further he has strong relationships with all kids on current roster, which would likely eliminate any transfers.
I appreciate the information from Brad. It is good to hear. It does not mean, however, that what's best for the program is to retain Wojo.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 09:22:54 AM
Not really. You miss the point. The point is this:
1) Wojo has had 6 years to show us what he can accomplish. He's performed worse than any coach at MU since Dukiet. He's not the answer. Not the guy. You don't keep a coach for one recruit, even if a 5-star. He's had a 5 star before. He's had Markus. We ain't won jack.
2) We currently have a talented recruiter and sharp assistant coach on the bench, who would give the program the best chance to retain this recruiting class, possibly including Dawson. (Perhaps Brad can ask his friends if Dawson has any relationship/thoughts about Stan?)
Further he has strong relationships with all kids on current roster, which would likely eliminate any transfers.
I appreciate the information from Brad. It is good to hear. It does not mean, however, that what's best for the program is to retain Wojo.
I agree with this. Wasn't it Jerry Faust at Notre Dame that recruited very well (not sure that's hard to do at ND) but couldn't win? ND kept him way to long believing he could learn to coach and finally realize the talent of his players.
BTW, this is not meant to endorse Wojo being fired but to support the idea you don't keep a coach to keep recruits.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 09:22:54 AM
Not really. You miss the point. The point is this:
1) Wojo has had 6 years to show us what he can accomplish. He's performed worse than any coach at MU since Dukiet. He's not the answer. Not the guy. You don't keep a coach for one recruit, even if a 5-star. He's had a 5 star before. He's had Markus. We ain't won jack.
2) We currently have a talented recruiter and sharp assistant coach on the bench, who would give the program the best chance to retain this recruiting class, possibly including Dawson. (Perhaps Brad can ask his friends if Dawson has any relationship/thoughts about Stan?)
Further he has strong relationships with all kids on current roster, which would likely eliminate any transfers.
I appreciate the information from Brad. It is good to hear. It does not mean, however, that what's best for the program is to retain Wojo.
No, you missed the point. The point of this thread was Dawson is excited about playing for Wojo and is committed to MU, unless Wojo wont be his coach.
Turning this into another "Wojo sucks" or "Stan is the messiah" thread is missing the point. I'm not arguing Wojo has underperformed, he has. To the Dukiet level? No, but to the Deane level (not talking coaching acumen, I'm talking about results), yes.
Quote from: lurch91 on March 14, 2020, 10:18:33 AM
No, you missed the point. The point of this thread was Dawson is excited about playing for Wojo and is committed to MU, unless Wojo wont be his coach.
Turning this into another "Wojo sucks" or "Stan is the messiah" thread is missing the point. I'm not arguing Wojo has underperformed, he has. To the Dukiet level? No, but to the Deane level (not talking coaching acumen, I'm talking about results), yes.
Of course a recruit is going to reconsider their decision if the coach they signed to play for leaves. That will be the case every time a coach leaves either on their own volition or being fired.
However, players need to be let out of their NLI's and generally a school's newly appointed coach gets a chance to re-recruit the players. I suspect Stan would succeed in re-recruiting Osa for sure, keep Killings, and you keep Lewis too.
I don't know the history of Dawson's recruitment - if Wojo actually took the lead, which rarely has been the case. We've been told Wojo is the "closer." Yet I suspect Stan has a strong relationship with Dawson too.
All moot, ultimately, because MU isn't going to fire Wojo. Hopefully he finds another gig and leaves in his own.
When can we expect to hear news on Mane?
Quote from: jaygall31 on March 14, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
When can we expect to hear news on Mane?
When he makes his choice.......
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 14, 2020, 11:54:38 AM
When he makes his choice.......
This is the quality insider information that I come to MUScoop for. :D
Quote from: jaygall31 on March 14, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
When can we expect to hear news on Mane?
"And now, LIVE, from The Breslin Center..."
Can recruits commit during this dead period?
Wen kan wee expect ta heer news on Woj, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 14, 2020, 06:01:06 PM
Wen kan wee expect ta heer news on Woj, hey?
No news is good news for Woj. Probably drinking a Corona right now listening to "These are the Breaks" by Kurtis Blow
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 14, 2020, 06:01:06 PM
Wen kan wee expect ta heer news on Woj, hey?
I'm sure the extension will be announced before too long.
Four a job well dun, aina?
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2020, 07:29:22 PM
I'm sure the extension will be announced before too long.
Did Marquette hire JLP away from DePaul?
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 14, 2020, 11:09:25 PM
Did Marquette hire JLP away from DePaul?
Marquette's AD recognized as AD of the year two weeks ago.
https://gomarquette.com/news/2020/3/3/general-bill-scholl-honored-as-an-under-armour-ad-of-the-year.aspx
Quote from: WarriorDad on March 15, 2020, 08:37:52 AM
Marquette's AD recognized as AD of the year two weeks ago.
https://gomarquette.com/news/2020/3/3/general-bill-scholl-honored-as-an-under-armour-ad-of-the-year.aspx
Notice that the only Men's basketball achievement is top 9 in attendance for last year. Where does achieving the lowest decibel level in the Big East for Men's home games rank on the list? Also, give a shout out to the student section seat cover design team.
Quote from: WarriorDad on March 15, 2020, 08:37:52 AM
Marquette's AD recognized as AD of the year two weeks ago.
https://gomarquette.com/news/2020/3/3/general-bill-scholl-honored-as-an-under-armour-ad-of-the-year.aspx
My post was a joke and I have no problem with Scholl. He was very smart to only give Wojo a modest extension last year so that Wojo could recruit with credibility but also MU can cut ties if it needs to without major costs. I'd say he earned that award.