They have failed to recruit shooters,only athletes
I remember reading here a couple years ago that Wojo only recruited shooters. Needed to target more athletes.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on March 07, 2020, 02:38:18 PM
I remember reading here a couple years ago that Wojo only recruited shooters. Needed to target more athletes.
They did. Now the entire program is a mess; hard to point to what is wrong because there are issues everywhere.
Can a recruit that commits to a program withdraw the commitment?
Quote from: curbina on March 07, 2020, 02:45:57 PM
Can a recruit that commits to a program withdraw the commitment?
After a recruit has signed a letter of intent, the school has to agree to release the recruit. Schools usually do because nothing positive comes from forcing a recruit to go to a school he doesn't want to attend.
Quote from: Oregon Warrior on March 07, 2020, 02:54:02 PM
After a recruit has signed a letter of intent, the school has to agree to release the recruit. Schools usually do because nothing positive comes from forcing a recruit to go to a school he doesn't want to attend.
Oregon, thank you for the information!
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on March 07, 2020, 11:54:16 AM
They have failed to recruit shooters,only athletes
Hey dipsh*t, they're 9th in the country in 3 point percentage, 1st in big east. But yeah, they don't have shooters. They were 10/21 today and lost. Shooting is not the issue.
Shooting is absolutely an issue when it disappears for 10 minute stretches.
Take Marcus out of the picture, and where would they be... oh by the way he gone next year Einstein
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on March 07, 2020, 03:10:38 PM
Take Marcus out of the picture, and where would they be... oh by the way he gone next year Einstein
We should be really concerned at the PG and SG position next year. What is the plan for those 2 positions next year? Loved Greg's effort today but the cupboard is pretty bare.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on March 07, 2020, 03:10:38 PM
Take Marcus out of the picture, and where would they be... oh by the way he gone next year Einstein
Kings - you should probably do some research before posting. Marcus FG% is .422. MU Team FG% is .430%. Take Markus (you don't even spell his name right) out of the equation and the Team FG% goes up to .433%. Just saying!!!
Quote from: Doo on March 07, 2020, 03:22:46 PM
Kings - you should probably do some research before posting. Marcus FG% is .422. MU Team FG% is .430%. Take Markus (you don't even spell his name right) out of the equation and the Team FG% goes up to .433%. Just saying!!!
If you think MU will be better without Markus, you've lost all credibility as a basketball fan.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on March 07, 2020, 03:10:38 PM
Take Marcus out of the picture, and where would they be... oh by the way he gone next year Einstein
Hey dipsh*t, he's in the picture, you're talking about this season. Next season, maybe it's an issue. We'll see.
You think maybe Marquette being 280th in the country inside the 3 point line is an issue? No one can finish at the rim and there's no post presence. So yeah, when you're a jump shooting team, you're going to have droughts. But don't let statistics get in the way of your well constructed argument.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on March 07, 2020, 03:27:38 PM
Hey dipsh*t, he's in the picture, you're talking about this season. Next season, maybe it's an issue. We'll see.
You think maybe Marquette being 280th in the country inside the 3 point line is an issue? No one can finish at the rim and there's no post presence. So yeah, when you're a jump shooting team, you're going to have droughts. But don't let statistics get in the way of your well constructed argument.
This is an awfully long drought. Two years in a row.
Quote from: Doo on March 07, 2020, 03:22:46 PM
Kings - you should probably do some research before posting. Marcus FG% is .422. MU Team FG% is .430%. Take Markus (you don't even spell his name right) out of the equation and the Team FG% goes up to .433%. Just saying!!!
Just saying!!! You're a an idiot and these stats are extremely biased, but keep it up.
Ok gang, let's remember what's going on for next year:
1) We are recruiting Mr. Mane from Quebec. Should he elect to come here, we have a strong, driving guard who can address some of the concerns this year.
2) I fully expect Dawson Garcia to start next year. We'll have some rough moments with him, to be sure, but he is a significant upgrade from Brendan Bailey's performance down the stretch.
3) If everything about Oso holds up, he will be pushing Bailey for time on the other point next year.
4) I see nothing that will keep Symir out of the line-up, so long as he can learn some defense.
5) If Koby shows some improvement, we'll have depth. I saw what he could be against Purdue and saw what he has been as of late, so I remain to be convinced.
I'm a little more optimistic for next year because we don't have a "shooting legend" like Markus, Carlino or Rowsey coming in, yet. COnsequently, to win the offense will HAVE to change. Our guys will have to be more distributed. I think the world of Markus and he's a great guy, but too much of the team stands around when he is hot and lets him do it. Today, the last play of the game, it is like everyone got out of the way to let Markus do his thing. There was nobody to kick out to and no one who seemed to have confidence. THAT HAS TO CHANGE!!!!
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 07, 2020, 03:43:45 PM
Ok gang, let's remember what's going on for next year:
1) We are recruiting Mr. Mane from Quebec. Should he elect to come here, we have a strong, driving guard who can address some of the concerns this year.
2) I fully expect Dawson Garcia to start next year. We'll have some rough moments with him, to be sure, but he is a significant upgrade from Brendan Bailey's performance down the stretch.
3) If everything about Oso holds up, he will be pushing Bailey for time on the other point next year.
4) I see nothing that will keep Symir out of the line-up, so long as he can learn some defense.
5) If Koby shows some improvement, we'll have depth. I saw what he could be against Purdue and saw what he has been as of late, so I remain to be convinced.
I'm a little more optimistic for next year because we don't have a "shooting legend" like Markus, Carlino or Rowsey coming in, yet. COnsequently, to win the offense will HAVE to change. Our guys will have to be more distributed. I think the world of Markus and he's a great guy, but too much of the team stands around when he is hot and lets him do it. Today, the last play of the game, it is like everyone got out of the way to let Markus do his thing. There was nobody to kick out to and no one who seemed to have confidence. THAT HAS TO CHANGE!!!!
Don't be reasonable.
Everyone talks of Oso next year, but never about Justin Lewis. Lewis plays on a Top 20 high school team in the country. This is an inner city league in Baltimore, not a suburb school with limited competition. Baltimore Poly has traveled and played in various tournaments across the east coast and beat IMG Academy, all with Lewis being an absolute stud. They also won their state title three years in a row. I believe Lewis is ranked higher in the 2020 rankings and was a member of the Under 17 Team USA.
As of next year, who knows but there will be players pushing for playing time at the three spot, the four is basically set to Garcia. Cain received a bunch of minutes today and Bailey is very inconsistent.
Cain, Bailey, Garcia, Lewis and Oso will divide the minutes. Someone will have to back up Garcia and someone starts at th three.
Your comments are really good, except Koby belongs on the pine as much as possible next year. Yes I hope he improves but for sure he can not be the point next year, not quick or explosive type player
Quote from: nyg on March 07, 2020, 03:56:27 PM
Everyone talks of Oso next year, but never about Justin Lewis. Lewis plays on a Top 20 high school team in the country. This is an inner city league in Baltimore, not a suburb school with limited competition. Baltimore Poly has traveled and played in various tournaments across the east coast and beat IMG Academy, all with Lewis being an absolute stud. They also won their state title three years in a row. I believe Lewis is ranked higher in the 2020 rankings and was a member of the Under 17 Team USA.
As of next year, who knows but there will be players pushing for playing time at the three spot, the four is basically set to Garcia. Cain received a bunch of minutes today and Bailey is very inconsistent.
Cain, Bailey, Garcia, Lewis and Oso will divide the minutes. Someone will have to back up Garcia and someone starts at th three.
I agree about Lewis, I can see all 3 frost starting next year as I am not in love with Theo as a back to the basket player with no real offensive skills. Time to start playing with the lane open. Just need a point who can can pass without turning the ball over.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 03:34:21 PM
Just saying!!! You're a an idiot and these stats are extremely biased, but keep it up.
"Biased" statistical facts? Interesting concept.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 07, 2020, 03:57:12 PM
Your comments are really good, except Koby belongs on the pine as much as possible next year. Yes I hope he improves but for sure he can not be the point next year, not quick or explosive type player
I would not want him back and would tell him that. He's not at the level needed if you're serious about contending in this league. It hasn't worked, thanks for your efforts Koby and hope you land at a place where you can succeed.
Plug should have been pulled long ago on his playing time.
Koby deserves serious pine time to finish out the year but I expect major improvement out of him next year but he is not a point guard. We will have the length next year but we need a point guard and shooters. Not having those next year will make for a very long year. Best hope is to recruit a shooter or point guard for next year and then get a grad transfer for the other spot.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 07, 2020, 04:15:34 PM
Koby deserves serious pine time to finish out the year but I expect major improvement out of him next year but he is not a point guard. We will have the length next year but we need a point guard and shooters. Not having those next year will make for a very long year. Best hope is to recruit a shooter or point guard for next year and then get a grad transfer for the other spot.
You have hope for major improvement out of him next year based on what???
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 07, 2020, 04:16:47 PM
You have hope for major improvement out of him next year based on what???
I do think he is pressing hard and has only gotten worse as the season has gone along. I think he is not a current fit for what Wojo has out there with his lineups and current offensive system. He is not a point guard. He should not initiate the offense. Him and Marcus have not gelled but he does have skill. Play him in Anim's spot next year and he will be more comfortable. Another year older, another year working on getting better. I believe he will play better next year.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 07, 2020, 04:26:43 PM
I do think he is pressing hard and has only gotten worse as the season has gone along. I think he is not a current fit for what Wojo has out there with his lineups and current offensive system. He is not a point guard. He should not initiate the offense. Him and Marcus have not gelled but he does have skill. Play him in Anim's spot next year and he will be more comfortable. Another year older, another year working on getting better. I believe he will play better next year.
I wish I had your optimism.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 07, 2020, 04:28:11 PM
I wish I had your optimism.
Its not that difficult. Players do generally get better year over over. He has had moments. So has Bailey. So has John. They all have sucked huge down the stretch. If you can't envision any improvements, then you have one very pessimistic view point.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 07, 2020, 04:30:55 PM
Its not that difficult. Players do generally get better year over over. He has had moments. So has Bailey. So has John. They all have sucked huge down the stretch. If you can't envision any improvements, then you have one very pessimistic view point.
We're talking about a 4th year junior who has been inept all year save for a couple brief moments of glory. There's a reason he was at Utah St
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 07, 2020, 04:34:47 PM
We're talking about a 4th year junior who has been inept all year save for a couple brief moments of glory. There's a reason he was at Utah St
Greg deserves major praise. Always plays tough and unafraid. Wish his mindset could be cloned and distributed among the roster. Hope he gets healthy in offseason. He's a keeper.
MU has enough small forwards next year, Bailey and Cain, Osa and Garcia as well. Koby would be my last resort. Even Elliott before him.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 07, 2020, 04:52:25 PM
MU has enough small forwards next year, Bailey and Cain, Osa and Garcia as well. Koby would be my last resort. Even Elliott before him.
And Lewis ;)
Personally, I think Wojo should realize we will not be good next year and start the three freshmen forwards.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 07, 2020, 04:15:34 PM
Koby deserves serious pine time to finish out the year but I expect major improvement out of him next year but he is not a point guard. We will have the length next year but we need a point guard and shooters. Not having those next year will make for a very long year. Best hope is to recruit a shooter or point guard for next year and then get a grad transfer for the other spot.
You're forgetting about red shirt guard Dexter Akanno. He'll be a factor next year along with Torrence. Agree Koby should ride the pines or the train out of town.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 07, 2020, 04:52:25 PM
MU has enough small forwards next year, Bailey and Cain, Osa and Garcia as well. Koby would be my last resort. Even Elliott before him.
Garcia isn't a small forward. Forward/Center would be the correct terminology.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 07, 2020, 07:01:53 PM
Garcia isn't a small forward. Forward/Center would be the correct terminology.
Can he shoot from outside, can he put the ball on the floor, can he drive to the hoop, if he can do those things he is better than Cain or Bailey. Garcia can play all 3 positions, hopefully the 3 frosh can play interchangeable positions.
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 07, 2020, 09:18:45 PM
Can he shoot from outside, can he put the ball on the floor, can he drive to the hoop, if he can do those things he is better than Cain or Bailey. Garcia can play all 3 positions, hopefully the 3 frosh can play interchangeable positions.
He can definitely shoot from out. And it seems very possible he can handle and drive better than both.