Early but it's a big game. Gotta take care of business at home with a chance for another statement win that comfortably keeps us in the 5/6 seed range. Send our all-American senior out on a high note. Give us a little breathing room for a turd @DePaul or SJU.
Would love to see a big game from Sacar for his send off. The right kind of kid who worked hard, never complained, and took the opportunities as they came. A true warrior.
We are Marquette.
We got some special juju in the house today. Undefeated juju. Powerful stuff, Maynard.
Little early for a game thread but sure hope we kick their kielbasa. Wojo should serve the kielbasa cold straight into their gonads.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 06:19:46 AM
.. sure hope we kick their kielbasa. Wojo should serve the kielbasa cold straight into their gonads.
wut
Since the thread was started early, some pregame notes:
- $3 beers if you get there early
- Black out t-shirts given away - get there early to get the size you want.
- Pregame light show with your phone - download the app
Quote1. Follow these steps to participate in the pregame light show!
2. Download (or update) the free Marquette Gameday app
3. Allow notification, access to your microphone and flashlight
4. Open the Marquette Gameday app and access the light app by tapping the menu bar and tapping the light show
5. Open the light show during the visitors' intros to sync your phone with the show
- And of course, get there early to honor the seniors
- Did I mention lots of reasons to get there early?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 06:19:46 AM
Little early for a game thread but sure hope we kick their kielbasa. Wojo should serve the kielbasa cold straight into their gonads.
This!!! Was this a 3AM'er?
It may be early for this thread to be started, but it's not too late to go to the game! Head over to the trading post!
We got this.
Started the trek early.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 29, 2020, 08:05:27 AM
This!!! Was this a 3AM'er?
Europe.
Plus wanted to give a thread for all those students standing in line at 6am drinking Jaeger out of a big-gulp. They still do that right?
We better win or Wojo's gonna get an earful
Seton Hall sucks
Quote from: 1SE on February 29, 2020, 09:30:32 AM
Europe.
Plus wanted to give a thread for all those students standing in line at 6am drinking Jaeger out of a big-gulp. They still do that right?
Europe. '72
Classic live Dead
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 29, 2020, 07:58:30 AM
Since the thread was started early, some pregame notes:
- $3 beers if you get there early
- Black out t-shirts given away - get there early to get the size you want.
- Pregame light show with your phone - download the app
- And of course, get there early to honor the seniors
- Did I mention lots of reasons to get there early?
the fiserv $3 beers are a joke >:(
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 29, 2020, 09:38:21 AM
Miller Lite?
Last time I went it was Hamm's only. 2 vendors only. And they ran out really fast.
Must win
Fox pre game on now. Sit down with Howard and Powell.
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Maybe Koby can channel his inner Pipkins starting today.
Shoot embarrassingly bad for most of the year then randomly start making absolute daggers in big games.
Driscoll reffing. ?-(
Sorry - Give the 2 points
Sweater vests can't be bothered with blackout shirts
Great job Koby
Get 1 on Powell
Booing continues
Markus key'd in early. HORRIFIC no call on Gill maiming him in the lane. Rest of the team needs to show up
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 29, 2020, 01:37:50 PM
Sweater vests can't be bothered with blackout shirts
To be fair, they advertised that they'd be on the chairs and weren't on the chairs.
We have a number of Seton Hall fans around us in the UD.
Need someone else to show up
Love watching Markus fly high.
They are absolutely murdering us down low.
Now a foul on Markus
We understood all along they would be passed out. It's the only way to do sizes.
They're nothing special.
Quote from: Warriors4ever on February 29, 2020, 01:46:33 PM
We have a number of Seton Hall fans around us in the UD.
Do what you gotta do.
Its Markus on his own today.
Koby still an offensive detriment. Bad pass and a stupid brick.
Sacar has missed a wide open J and a floater
Jayce got stuffed at the rim
Bailey missed a wide open 3
Hall just scored in the paint again.
We just missed again.
Gotta get some easy ones
Embarrassing out of the gates in yet another huge game.
DOwn 9 already.
Whew lads.
Let's go Markus and the Horizon Leaguers!
We really need Markus to get back to auto matic at the line.
On the way to be out of it early in a game against a quality opponent - imagine that.
TERRIBLE reffing sequence
Markus has now been drilled to the floor 3 times in the lane with no whistle. And they call Theo for Powell tripping on the other end. Beautiful
You can search my post history. I don't complain about the refs.
It's been terribly one sided so far. Beyond ridiculous.
SHU is outplaying us regardless, but wow.
What a crap no call on that drive by Markus.
We need someone else to step up on offense, hey?
Jeez. This game is becoming a microcosm of the entire season. At least work the ball around a bit ...
Quote from: Markusquette on February 29, 2020, 01:56:09 PM
Jeez. This game is becoming a microcosm of the entire season. At least work the ball around a bit ...
We did. No one else could do anything.
OMG, Markus has gotten clotheslined and body slammed with no call and Theo gets a tricky-tack outside the arc. Is GD Breeding in the house?
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 29, 2020, 01:53:33 PM
On the way to be out of it early in a game against a quality opponent - imagine that.
Yeah--nobody to score but Markus. Might well let him coach also. The one we have cant get the job done. Absolutely getting abused inside. No defensive adjustments and no offense except Markus and Hero ball.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 29, 2020, 01:55:35 PM
You can search my post history. I don't complain about the refs.
It's been terribly one sided so far. Beyond ridiculous.
SHU is outplaying us regardless, but wow.
Agreed both are true. If they allow it to be a rough and tumble brawl, we will get killed. Far more SH game than ours
Just wanna pop in to say eff Seton Hall and eff Myles Powell.
Always get screwed when we play them.
Have a good day all.
Really physical out of the gate here. Gotta match Hall with the same level of physicality. And I'd love to see Sacar get going. Or Koby. Or anyone else really. This is March basketball, we need to get up for this.
Willard in the huddle: If Markus is going to shoot all the time, we win by 20. Good analysis of Wojos coaching. Right now, playing pathetically.
Markus would average over 30 per game easy if he got even 50% of the non call body slams in the paint he faces.
And theres two on Markus.
Thats the game folks
Willard is right. If Chucker Markus is in the building, Hall wins big.
Their role players are so much better.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 01:58:55 PM
Willard in the huddle: If Markus is going to shoot all the time, we win by 20. Good analysis of Wojos coaching. Right now, playing pathetically.
Absolutely spot on. That will be Woj's legacy
The defender was in the restricted zone. His foot was on the line. He pulled it forward after Howard was in the air.
In contrast, on the one called against Howard. Howard was stationary and completely outside of the restricted zone.
Just look at their offense vs ours.
SHU raining 3s and Sacar biffing his usual lay ups.
They are scoring every single possession now.
Our dudes run into eachother around the three point line because we don't have an offense.
Wojo needs to get Markus back in the game before this half is over. We can't win by being conservative right now.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 29, 2020, 02:04:17 PM
SHU raining 3s and Sacar biffing his usual lay ups.
They are scoring every single possession now.
He got hacked on both attempts
Sacar such a liabilty
So unfortunate
Quote from: JWags85 on February 29, 2020, 02:05:16 PM
He got hacked on both attempts
Weve gotten hosed about 5 times already.
That wasnt one of them. That was Sacar missing layups, the norm for 5 years.
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on February 29, 2020, 02:04:43 PM
Our dudes run into eachother around the three point line because we don't have an offense.
This.
We need Matt Heldt!
Quote from: skianth16 on February 29, 2020, 02:04:59 PM
Wojo needs to get Markus back in the game before this half is over. We can't win by being conservative right now.
Yeah, what do you have to lose
This display doesn't make one optimistic for the 4-5 game va. PC.
They will not miss.
We will not make.
Bad recipe.
Koby is just absymal
I'd punch Quincy McKnight and Powell in the face, no questions about it.
Koby lmao.
This dude is unbelievable
Can we make Stan coach?
Pathetic. Looking at MU next year without Howard. No offense. Bailey is a huge defensive liability.
Play Markus until he fouls out
With no Gill. We gotta keep pounding it down low
Kobes shooting Is just ridiculously bad. Shocking
Man, how did that Powell layup go in? Never seen a made shot that high on the backboard
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:14:50 PM
Man, how did that Powell layup go in? Never seen a made shot that high on the backboard
He's a little bitch
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:14:50 PM
Man, how did that Powell layup go in? Never seen a made shot that high on the backboard
Just unreal. If those are going in, he's even harder to stop.
They literally are making everything from every spot on the floor
Great take Greg
All things considered MU is in a very fortunate position right now.
For all the crap said about Powell, he did help Theo John up after that collision. Just sayin'.....
Couple good min from Jamal
It's a problem when MU's next best player is still worse than probably four of SHU's after Powell.
Every big game lately. We make a little run. Have a bad TO and it immediately leads to a 3.
Then we brick another 3. And they hit another
It is literally the exact same thing every single game.
We cant make a 3 outside of Markus.
Every MU run gets answered by a bigger run
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 29, 2020, 02:20:51 PM
Every big game lately. We make a little run. Have a bad TO and it immediately leads to a 3.
Then we brick another 3. And they hit another
It is literally the exact same thing every single game.
We cant make a 3 outside of Markus.
That was a very unfortunate stretch starting with about 2:30 to go. That TO was brutal. We could have cut the lead to one possession.
They're shooting the lights out. Including making circus shots. It wont happen in second
Markus: 6-9
Rest of team: 8-23
Powell: 6-11
Rest of team: 12-19
All the complaining about the students and they are loud today. If MU loses this it definitely is not because of crowd. The fans are there.
When i said Sacar was the 8th best 3 in the BE i was including Rhoden as significantly better
Quote from: skianth16 on February 29, 2020, 02:23:12 PM
That was a very unfortunate stretch starting with about 2:30 to go. That TO was brutal. We could have cut the lead to one possession.
And that keeps being the theme.
At some point someone other than Markus is going to have to hit a jump shot
The defense was very good during the stretch when Markus was not playing. Got the lead down to 6.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 02:23:33 PM
Markus: 6-9
Rest of team: 8-23
Powell: 6-11
Rest of team: 12-19
And rest of team 0-5 from 3. And all those were good looks. Brutal.
They were making everything.
We sans Markus were missing everything.
Let's get some regression to the mean going.
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 29, 2020, 02:22:50 PM
Every MU run gets answered by a bigger run
MU was down 12, cut it to 5, Seton Hall pushed it back to 11. Math says you're off
Big question, can Koby hit an outside shot or have 2 turnovers ?
At the game. Not blaming the refs but it looks like multiple times there was pretty significant contact with no call. Accurate or not?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 29, 2020, 02:31:33 PM
At the game. Not blaming the refs but it looks like multiple times there was pretty significant contact with no call. Accurate or not?
Definitely a few of Markus' drives were very contact-heavy.
First half:
Seton Hall is doing a good job of making extra pass for open weak side 3's and knocking them down.
MU is doing very well on the glass and getting big man buckets inside.
MU needs better ball movement as they are not
Anim 1 for 7 and it was an open basket cut lay up off pass.
Markus playing well on offense.
Key to 2nd half is MU needs to do a better job staying in front of its man on defense. Too much help D and getting out of position for open 3's.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 02:23:33 PM
Markus: 6-9
Rest of team: 8-23
Another way to look at it:
Bailey, Sacar, Koby: 2/12
Rest of the team: 11/17
Markus, bigs, and our low scoring/defensive subs are doing what they need to on offense. Need our secondary scorers to step up and start making shots
Quote from: BCHoopster on February 29, 2020, 02:30:24 PM
Big question, can Koby hit an outside shot or have 2 turnovers ?
Bigger question. Can we find a coach who is not clueless when it comes to preparing and coaching players. Mediocrity matters.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:32:46 PM
Another way to look at it:
Bailey, Sacar, Koby: 2/12
Rest of the team: 11/17
Markus, bigs, and our low scoring/defensive subs are doing what they need to on offense. Need our secondary scorers to step up and start making shots
Good point. Theo and Jayce are playing well/.
Thanks for your pedantic accuracy. Marquette is only 1 PT crappier than they look.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:27:32 PM
MU was down 12, cut it to 5, Seton Hall pushed it back to 11. Math says you're off
Hope Markus scores like crazy in the second half.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 29, 2020, 02:31:33 PM
At the game. Not blaming the refs but it looks like multiple times there was pretty significant contact with no call. Accurate or not?
Only one really bad no call IMHO (Gill trucking Markus). The others could have been called blocks but am fine if they leave them as no calls as long as its consistent, which I think they have been.
I do agree with whoever said it though....I bet they call it a lot tighter in the second half
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:26:23 PM
They were making everything.
We sans Markus were missing everything.
Let's get some regression to the mean going.
I always think/hope that happens in our games, but it rarely seems to
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on February 29, 2020, 02:34:51 PM
Hope Markus scores like crazy in the second half.
Yeah, if he outscores SH by say 40-28, we might win. Not getting any help from others such as Anim or McKewen.
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Defensively our weakside help has been late all game. I think they are playing conservatively to try and prevent the lobs that they used to kill us last game.
.....speaking of which
The reason that Bailey, Sacar, Koby are 2/12 and 0/5 is because they're not very good. These are players 6-9 on a decent team. They wouldn't start for any other BE team that's over 500. Just shows how much MH is worth.
Good start boys!
Crappy first half start, crappy second half start. Wojo team back on track to previous trajectory after playing short handed GT.
I am convinced we will never win any game or important again.
Pathetic start. Getting out of hand
Might as well let Markusnget his 30 now. At least he can still get the scoring title
Stop feeding jayce down low the but have zero post game just bs
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:35:31 PM
Only one really bad no call IMHO (Gill trucking Markus). The others could have been called blocks but am fine if they leave them as no calls as long as its consistent, which I think they have been.
I agree. Though Markus basically ran into Gill on that drive. Of course being outweighed by about 130 lbs Markus was gonna hit the deck.
Refs have been basically fine. Problem is Seton Hall is shooting the lights out.
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 29, 2020, 02:34:47 PM
Thanks for your pedantic accuracy. Marquette is only 1 PT less crappier than they look.
Welp
Just gotta tip your cap. Best game of the year from hall. Gonna shoot 70 percent on the game. Good job
Its criminal that we squandered markus' talent. We'll never see a scorer like him again.
In a pretty deep hole now. We'll need a miracle to turn this around.
Wow
+100. But let's wait for the slurpers to bring up that Villanova game 2 years ago.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 29, 2020, 02:42:53 PM
I am convinced we will never win any game or important again.
Hopefully everyone cheered loudly for Wojo. That's the most important thing.
Markus is shooting out of his mind and it doesn't matter. SH is literally DOUBLE what they normally shoot from 3 in a year. This is fun. Can't wait to beat DePaul and SJ and have everyone ask where the complainers are now. This team is a disaster
wow,koby needs to sit now
This is eerily reminiscent of Murray State defensive plan. Sell out to protect paint, give up WIDE OPEN threes.
You'd think we'd have learned from that experience.
Sacar anim is a mid major player at beat as is koby. How do u beat good teams with them on the floor...u dont
Anyone can defend Sacar all they want, guy cant shoot. Its a game of making shots and hes a absolute brick layet. Also really brings nothing else. Give me Cale or Rhoden every day of the week n twice on sunday. I said hes 8th best 3 in BE, that may be generous.
Bailey getting abused. No half time adjustments by Wojo. Game over, season over. Stick a fork in it. Wojo is 1 trick pony. Recruit but no coach.
SHU is just way better
Haven't posted in quite a while. Games like this are why. Seen enough. Time to go food shopping. Tough for our team to be so irrelevant.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 29, 2020, 02:47:22 PM
This is eerily reminiscent of Murray State defensive plan. Sell out to protect paint, give up WIDE OPEN threes.
You'd think we'd have learned from that experience.
If you believe that, you haven't been paying attention to how this head coach operates.
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I thought crowds not showing up were the reason MU lost games. Tough to watch this game. Tough being a fan too. Hopefully the team can turn it around for the next two.
Sacar,Koby,and Bailey ugh, you wonder why were getting killed!! My goodness their bad!
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 29, 2020, 02:47:30 PM
Sacar anim is a mid major player at beat as is koby. How do u beat good teams with them on the floor...u dont
Anyone can defend Sacar all they want, guy cant shoot. Its a game of making shots and hes a absolute brick layet. Also really brings nothing else. Give me Cale or Rhoden every day of the week n twice on sunday. I said hes 8th best 3 in BE, that may be generous.
Classy to rip on a near 40% three-point shooter in his final game. Not Anim's fault he was forced into being the #2 guy after Hauser left. SH is simply better from top to bottom.
Game Over Markus could shoot every time down and we would still lose
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 29, 2020, 02:47:30 PM
Sacar anim is a mid major player at beat as is koby. How do u beat good teams with them on the floor...u dont
Anyone can defend Sacar all they want, guy cant shoot. Its a game of making shots and hes a absolute brick layet. Also really brings nothing else. Give me Cale or Rhoden every day of the week n twice on sunday. I said hes 8th best 3 in BE, that may be generous.
It's really not about shooting, it's about defending. Defensive effort is the only thing that you can control. And as the wide open looks that have been available against us for approximately six years show, we need work in that area.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 29, 2020, 02:47:22 PM
This is eerily reminiscent of Murray State defensive plan. Sell out to protect paint, give up WIDE OPEN threes.
You'd think we'd have learned from that experience.
Mu has had as many wide open shots
Bailey sacar n mcewen have laid nothing but bricks
Seton hall has made them
Sacar n koby are not BE players
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 02:47:35 PM
Bailey getting abused. No half time adjustments by Wojo. Game over, season over. Stick a fork in it. Wojo is 1 trick pony. Recruit but no coach.
Recruit? These are all his recruits. Outside of MH, they're basically IUPUI-Ft. Wayne.
What kind of pass was that from our star?
Sold out crowd and the team comes out flat. I dont know how people can keep defending a subpar product. The majority of the fan base is not going to keep showing up to games where they see a performance like this.
Glad BB can hit one when it is.garbage time
Koby has not scored a basket in almost a game and a half.
He has seven points in three games and 10 turnovers.
Wojo yanked him and put in Cain. With the exception of a few games, his season has been, well not so good. Some can talk about defense, rebounding, some even said "swagger", but offensively he is horrid and turnover prone. MU needed a secondary scoring option this year and he has not been the answer and may not be in the future. Some may hope he grad transfers, others hope he improves radically. Just didn't happen this year, but maybe he can give something last couple of games, finish 10-8.
At this point MU should be focused on keeping SHU under 100.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Quote from: MU24 on February 29, 2020, 02:55:16 PM
Sold out crowd and the team comes out flat. I dont know how people can keep defending a subpar product. The majority of the fan base is not going to keep showing up to games where they see a performance like this.
I know I wont. The one thing that sold tickets this year was you could see a monster game from howard at any time. With that gone next year good luck.
Sorry everyone who disagrees but this team has talent. It's the coaching that's making the group look far worse than it is.
A decent game prep and in-game coach and we have four extra wins this year and are defending BE Champs.
Same offense year after year. Same weaknesses year after year. In other words, same Wojo.
I said it vs. Purdue at half and, sadly, it's still true now.
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Quote from: keefe on February 29, 2020, 02:56:51 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I lold
Seton Hall playing at their absolute ceiling.
Marquette playing somewhere between their average and their floor.
That's going to result in ugly every time
Wow, this team is much worse than I thought-glaring weaknesses. We will start another rebuild next year. Too bad.
Slap the floor three times wherever you are and it will all go away!!
How many Senior Days has MU won in the last 10, 15 years?
Wojo called on the fans to come out and support the seniors. One senior has not done anything all game, and the other has his talents wasted trying to carry a weak offense.
In the first half before the last run, crowd is energized, we've gotten a couple stops, I think we were within 5 or 6, and Markus turns it over driving into 4 SH players. Next play Powell hits a three. Been downhill since then.
Markus seems to kill our momentum often. Almost as often as he generates it.
The rest of the team just watches.
Go Marquette
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
Sorry everyone who disagrees but this team has talent. It's the coaching that's making the group look far worse than it is.
A decent game prep and in-game coach and we have four extra wins this year and are defending BE Champs.
I see a lack of talent. Can't make shots, turnovers, no ball movement. Poor communication on D. Not a Wojo fan but it's more than just coaching. Koby, Brendan, Sacar all invisible
Same offense year after year. Same weaknesses year after year. In other words, same Wojo.
I said it vs. Purdue at half and, sadly, it's still true now.
Woof. Ran into a buzz saw today. Hall has played a pretty much perfect game and I don't think anyone in CBB beats them today.
But man - no one besides Markus and maybe Jayce/Theo showed up. Frustrating. Gotta go get two on the road now and get this taste out of our mouth.
Just embarrassing. Poor Markus. Guy is bringing it and this is whats happening on his Senior Day.
It is absolutely mind boggling that there are people out there who defend Koby McEwen
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 02:58:39 PM
Marquette playing somewhere between their average and their floor.
If MU can play worse than this I wouldn't be watching, so I would consider this their floor from my perspective
Keep in mind last time we lost to Hall they didn't even have Mamu.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
Sorry everyone who disagrees but this team has talent. It's the coaching that's making the group look far worse than it is.
A decent game prep and in-game coach and we have four extra wins this year and are defending BE Champs.
Same offense year after year. Same weaknesses year after year. In other words, same Wojo.
I said it vs. Purdue at half and, sadly, it's still true now.
And same lousy el foldo performance down the stretch last 2 years. Now lost 4 of last 5.
This blows. It's also the talent AND coaching.
Wish Joey had committed elsewhere.
Hopefully the recruits car broke down and couldn't make it to this shi t show
Quote from: Afroman on February 29, 2020, 02:46:46 PM
Hopefully everyone cheered loudly for Wojo. That's the most important thing.
me in my section *who needs winning, Wojo is developing young men!!*
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What does Bill Scholl do all day? Must be a sweet job...no pressure anymore....hohum
Jayce and Theo?
Bill Scholl: "you'll get nothing and like it!"
Enough is enough, wojo needs to be fired!
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 29, 2020, 03:01:10 PM
If MU can play worse than this I wouldn't be watching, so I would consider this their floor from my perspective
They already have. Robert Morris and the two Providence games were much worse than this. This is more about Seton Hall playing at their absolute best
Quote from: muhoops1 on February 29, 2020, 03:00:38 PM
On shooting, you're right.
Turnovers, ball movement and communication are coaching, not talent. Teams with far less talent than MU do not consistently have issues in the areas. And MU shouldn't, either.
Maybe just skip the senior speeches and announce they fired Wojo would make everyone happier.
"Wojo doesn't make adjustments"
Theo and jayce on the floor together
He doesn't look like a pirate, he looks like the stereotypical movie character that is the last bad guy killed before the hero gets to the main bad guy
6 years of Wojo is getting reakky old and really worrisome. Let the excuses continue.
Ending the season off strong again I see...WOJO.
Honestly don't think we're playing bad defense this half and they are just torching us.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 29, 2020, 03:02:14 PM
"I know nothing about global warming! Nothing at all!"
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Any friend of Markus' isn't necessarily a friend of mine
Story of the game there. 10-15 of their points have come from highly contested shots. Powell too good today.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
Sorry everyone who disagrees but this team has talent. It's the coaching that's making the group look far worse than it is.
Players not named Howard are getting wide open looks...and missing over and over again. What part of that is coaching?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 03:06:58 PM
6 years of Wojo is getting reakky old and really worrisome. Let the excuses continue.
Its GOATJO ! He the best
Quote from: BM1090 on February 29, 2020, 03:07:58 PM
Honestly don't think we're playing bad defense this half and they are just torching us.
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That wasn't even close to a good shot. Nothing but nylon. Pirates at an unreal level right now.
Quote from: BM1090 on February 29, 2020, 03:07:58 PM
Honestly don't think we're playing bad defense this half and they are just torching us.
Exactly. It's always what MU is NOT doing and not what the opposing team is doing. The road goes both ways. They are simply on fire. 10-0 run quelled by a contested three.
And SH is just a tougher team.
Hate saying that but it's true and been the case for most of Wojo's tenure no matter who we play.
Quote from: curbina on February 29, 2020, 03:03:28 PM
Enough is enough, wojo needs to be fired!
He did recruit sacar n koby so u might be right
It just isn't possible to beat a team shooting this well.
Quote from: bsabreboy on February 29, 2020, 03:07:26 PM
Ending the season off strong again I see...WOJO.
Didn't know this was the last game of the year
Let's get Markus to 40 and it's a win in our hearts
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:09:58 PM
And SH is just a tougher team.
Hate saying that but it's true and been the case for most of Wojo's tenure no matter who we play.
We have 11 offensive rebounds...because we are out toughing them on the boards.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 03:09:33 PM
That wasn't even close to a good shot. Nothing but nylon. Pirates at an unreal level right now.
Looked about like how Markus scores 25% of his points.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:08:52 PM
Players not named Howard are getting wide open looks...and missing over and over again. What part of that is coaching?
The part that applies to the areas of the game that aren't shooting.
Turnovers, ball movement on offense, defense (on man, rotation, etc...), adjustments. Those are the parts that applies to coaching.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
We have 11 offensive rebounds...because we are out toughing them on the boards.
11, huh? Must mean we're missing a lot of shots then...
Kendall Brown sighting in front of Howard's parents.
Quote from: Markusquette on February 29, 2020, 03:09:37 PM
Exactly. It's always what MU is NOT doing and not what the opposing team is doing. The road goes both ways. They are simply on fire. 10-0 run quelled by a contested three.
Had two uncontested dunks to start second half. First five minutes if half weren't good and that's when the wheels came off.
D is better now but it is probably too little, too late.
But we're gonna make the 130 team Ncaa tournament and lose right away!! It's all good
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:08:52 PM
Players not named Howard are getting wide open looks...and missing over and over again. What part of that is coaching?
He recruited guys that can't shoot.
Where's cheeks or any of his other 14 screen names to argue that Marquette actually competed in this game for 3 minutes.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:11:54 PM
The part that applies to the areas of the game that aren't shooting.
Turnovers, ball movement on offense, defense (on man, rotation, etc...), adjustments. Those are the parts that applies to coaching.
We only have 7 TOs against the best defensive team in the BE, that must mean good coaching then. Our ball movement on offense has gotten us a ton of wide open looks (that guys simply missed). Must be good coaching then. Our defense has been mediocre. He's made multiple adjustments.
We are losing because our secondary players are not making shots and SH's are.
Markus is so fun to watch. Unfortunately its not the NBA where you can cheer for one guy and its fine if the team sucks. MU has been bad for so long its so tough. Playing in a high end arena is not worth it for the university if it doesnt put a quality product out on the floor. Ticket prices are way more than they should be for watching a team like this.
Don't worry fellas, nobody boo'd wojo, so im sure the recruits will wanna come to MU after seeing this game.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
We have 11 offensive rebounds...because we are out toughing them on the boards.
We're leading in offensive rebounds because they're not missing.
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 29, 2020, 03:14:37 PM
Where's cheeks or any of his other 14 screen names to argue that Marquette actually competed in this game for 3 minutes.
I'm at the game.
Marquette competed. And missed open shots
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on February 29, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
Don't worry fellas, nobody boo'd wojo, so im sure the recruits will wanna come to MU after seeing this game.
There was booing
I would not be surprised if McEwen left after this season.
Now we know what Gtown felt on Wednesday.
Not gonna feel that bad about this game. SH too good today. Markus can't do it all on his own. No help from Sacar/Koby/Brendan would lead to defeat against any BE team.
Quote from: JoeSmith1721 on February 29, 2020, 03:10:07 PM
It just isn't possible to beat a team shooting this well.
Providence shot 51% in spanking last weekend. Seton Hall shooting 55% as I type this.
It's definitely not our defense
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:14:58 PM
We only have 7 TOs against the best defensive team in the BE, that must mean good coaching then. Our ball movement on offense has gotten us a ton of wide open looks (that guys simply missed). Must be good coaching then. Our defense has been mediocre. He's made multiple adjustments.
We are losing because our secondary players are not making shots and SH's are.
You're right. We've never had a turnover problem under Wojo because we have 7 today. The opposing coach is telling his team Markus is taking all the shots and our ASSISTANT coach is screaming about poor ball movement. But you're right on that, too.
Brendan Bailey has to be the biggest waste of basketball potential.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on February 29, 2020, 03:18:00 PM
Now we know what Gtown felt on Wednesday.
Not gonna feel that bad about this game. SH too good today. Markus can't do it all on his own. No help from Sacar/Koby/Brendan would lead to defeat against any BE team.
But MU wasn't missing any players like Georgetown. At least they had an excuse for looking terrible
APB for Bailey
Quote from: jesmu84 on February 29, 2020, 03:16:59 PM
There was booing
Sorry I thought I read there wasnt
I turned in my tickets, so I wasn't there
No Contest like he said
Quote from: Afroman on February 29, 2020, 03:17:17 PM
I would not be surprised if McEwen left after this season.
Giving us hope at a low moment like this is cruel.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 29, 2020, 03:11:32 PM
Looked about like how Markus scores 25% of his points.
You are incorrect
Quote from: MU24 on February 29, 2020, 03:15:42 PM
Markus is so fun to watch. Unfortunately its not the NBA where you can cheer for one guy and its fine if the team sucks. MU has been bad for so long its so tough. Playing in a high end arena is not worth it for the university if it doesnt put a quality product out on the floor. Ticket prices are way more than they should be for watching a team like this.
Dumb.
People are STREAMING for the exits before the under 4. For the last game for the best scorer in program history, a transcendent talent who probably scores 40 today. Bear that in mind for people who think everyone's expectations are "too high"
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 29, 2020, 03:18:13 PM
Providence shot 51% in spanking last weekend. Seton Hall shooting 55% as I type this.
It's definitely not our defense
I think combined with 4-21 from our secondary players is what killed us. (Yes, using past tense.)
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:18:21 PM
You're right. We've never had a turnover problem under Wojo because we have 7 today. The opposing coach is telling his team Markus is taking all the shots and our ASSISTANT coach is screaming about poor ball movement. But you're right on that, too.
Howard is 12-19.
The rest of the team is 14-40.
Powell is 9-21.
The rest of SH is 22-35.
Willard up 20 and still prowling the sideline...coaching. Wojo, down 20, sitting on his dead ass on the bench....wondering, when the hell will K retire so I can get a better gig.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 29, 2020, 03:22:26 PM
People are STREAMING for the exits before the under 4. For the last game for the best scorer in program history, a transcendent talent who probably scores 40 today. Bear that in mind for people who think everyone's expectations are "too high"
Good point Wags
Sad indeed
Quote from: JoeSmith1721 on February 29, 2020, 03:19:28 PM
Brendan Bailey has to be the biggest waste of basketball potential.
I can't remember a player who runs so hot and cold as BB...
Quote from: JWags85 on February 29, 2020, 03:22:26 PM
People are STREAMING for the exits before the under 4. For the last game for the best scorer in program history, a transcendent talent who probably scores 40 today. Bear that in mind for people who think everyone's expectations are "too high"
Well, you gotta beat that snarlin' Milwaukee traffic...
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 03:23:06 PM
Willard up 20 and still prowling the sideline...coaching. Wojo, down 20, sitting on his dead ass on the bench....wondering, when the hell will K retire so I can get a better gig.
Is his ass welded to the bench?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 03:23:06 PM
Willard up 20 and still prowling the sideline...coaching. Wojo, down 20, sitting on his dead ass on the bench....wondering, when the hell will K retire so I can get a better gig.
My lord.. do you ever get exhausted with the 96 anti wojo posts every week. Holy shi t its get exhausting just reading it. Non stop
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:18:21 PM
You're right. We've never had a turnover problem under Wojo because we have 7 today. The opposing coach is telling his team Markus is taking all the shots and our ASSISTANT coach is screaming about poor ball movement. But you're right on that, too.
Astute observation. I actually enjoyed hearing Stan in the in the huddle segment. Seems a bit more, shall we say, inspiring and prescient input his diagnosis.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:23:00 PM
Howard is 12-19.
The rest of the team is 14-40.
Powell is 9-21.
The rest of SH is 22-35.
And Willard was right. Let Markus shoot all he wants and win by 20.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 29, 2020, 03:22:26 PM
People are STREAMING for the exits before the under 4. For the last game for the best scorer in program history, a transcendent talent who probably scores 40 today. Bear that in mind for people who think everyone's expectations are "too high"
I guess people want to see them win, not get blown out while our leading scorer does what he does.
Why is Powell back in?
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 29, 2020, 03:25:31 PM
Astute observation. I actually enjoyed hearing Stan in the in the huddle segment. Seems a bit more, shall we say, inspiring and prescient input his diagnosis.
.
Me, too. Sounded like a...coach.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:25:37 PM
And Willard was right. Let Markus shoot all he wants and win by 20.
Is Willard a bad coach then, because he let Powell shoot a ton more than Howard, when Powell is a way less efficient shooter?
Wait, it's down to 10?
If we fire wojo and promote stan do you think he can hang on to any of the recruits?
Good fight at the end. Wish there was another couple of minutes.
Quote from: forgetful on February 29, 2020, 03:28:01 PM
Is Willard a bad coach then, because he let Powell shoot a ton more than Howard, when Powell is a way less efficient shooter?
I'm sorry, Mrs. Wojo.
Your husband is awesome in every way. I retract everything I said.
Wojo can't believe they cut it either
Quote from: Afroman on February 29, 2020, 03:17:17 PM
I would not be surprised if McEwen left after this season.
Agreed. I'm almost expecting to hear that.
MU can't even lose right today. Got back into the game so they can't take Markus out to get a standing ovation
Down to 5! God, they always make the pain a little more exquisite.
Quote from: PointWarrior on February 29, 2020, 03:14:37 PM
Where's cheeks or any of his other 14 screen names to argue that Marquette actually competed in this game for 3 minutes.
No he's thinking about how to spin a single digit home loss where they trailed by 20 with 10 left into a positive..ala the Villanova game a couple weeks ago that started this slide.
Quote from: 1SE on February 29, 2020, 03:28:23 PM
If we fire wojo and promote stan do you think he can hang on to any of the recruits?
He WILL NOT be fired this year so useless conversation
Quote from: 1SE on February 29, 2020, 03:30:15 PM
Wojo can't believe they cut it either
Maybe the comeback has something to do with his ass being glued to the bench, not coaching...
Addition by subtraction at work.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:30:09 PM
I'm sorry, Mrs. Wojo.
Your husband is awesome in every way. I retract everything I said.
I never said Wojo was even a good coach. Just your analysis sucks, and is entirely inaccurate in regards to this game.
Glad the team has more fight in them then our fanbase
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:31:56 PM
Maybe the comeback has something to do with his ass being glued to the bench, not coaching...
Addition by subtraction at work.
I think he winds them too tight. It was garbage time and wojo was sitting on the bench uninterested so they started to play loose
Amazing how they get closer with Sacar finaly making a couple...
Quote from: 1SE on February 29, 2020, 03:33:02 PM
I think he winds them too tight. It was garbage time and wojo was sitting on the bench uninterested so they started to play loose
MU gets down 24, it's Wojo's fault.
MU cuts it it to 5, it's in spite of Wojo.
Love it
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 03:32:43 PM
Glad the team has more fight in them then our fanbase
Single digit loss baby!!
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 03:34:26 PM
MU gets down 24, it's Wojo's fault.
MU cuts it it to 5, it's in spite of Wojo.
Love it
I'm not there but it sure looked like.wojo wasnt doing much coaching during that run - the guys just started playing loose
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 03:34:26 PM
MU gets down 24, it's Wojo's fault.
MU cuts it it to 5, it's in spite of Wojo.
Love it
Frustration at work... I plead guilty as charged.
Well done Seton Hall. Unconscious pretty much all day except during both runs MU made. Sometimes the other team simply plays better, believe it or not.
Markus is a classy guy. Gonna miss that dude.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on February 29, 2020, 03:34:26 PM
MU gets down 24, it's Wojo's fault.
MU cuts it it to 5, it's in spite of Wojo.
Love it
Anything good= not on wojo
Anything bad at all= 100% wojo
No ovation for markus? Damn
Rebuilt our offense
Quote from: 1SE on February 29, 2020, 02:46:07 PM
Its criminal that we squandered markus' talent. We'll never see a scorer like him again.
So sadly, depressingly, true.
Willard made the point early, stop everyone else, to bad Anim did not start out like the finish. Liked Wojo keeping Koby on the bench on the second half. It's hard to believe Koby is such a good free throw shooter and can not hit a shot. I would start a different player next game other than Koby, maybe coming off the bench would help
Quote from: Johnny B on February 29, 2020, 03:25:26 PM
My lord.. do you ever get exhausted with the 96 anti wojo posts every week. Holy shi t its get exhausting just reading it. Non stop
Just facts mam. Maybe you should direct your criticism at Wojos coaching acumen than whining at me. But then again..that would not be your MO.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on February 29, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
On shooting, you're right.
Turnovers, ball movement and communication are coaching, not talent. Teams with far less talent than MU do not consistently have issues in the areas. And MU shouldn't, either.
Just when I wanna give up they suck me back in...
Thank you Markus, for a great MU career.
Quote from: 1SE on February 29, 2020, 03:28:23 PM
If we fire wojo and promote stan do you think he can hang on to any of the recruits?
Yes. All of them.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 03:41:46 PM
Just facts mam. Maybe you should direct your criticism at Wojos coaching acumen than whining at me. But then again..that would not be your MO.
My MO is supporting a tournament team that could make a run. Yours is whine non stop about the coach. Wille whiner. I don't like wojo much but whatever hope the team. Makes a run
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 29, 2020, 03:46:34 PM
Yes. All of them.
Genius idea. Lets give the assistant from our sucky team the job! Has that ever worked?
Quote from: Blackhat on February 29, 2020, 04:34:45 PM
Genius idea. Lets give the assistant from our sucky team the job! Has that ever worked?
Buzz...
Quote from: JWags85 on February 29, 2020, 04:53:15 PM
Buzz...
Not even sure who that dude is but man, some stupid comments.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 29, 2020, 04:53:15 PM
Buzz...
We lost in overtime to Stanford almost making it to the Sweet Sixteen when Buzz was assistant. We were 25-10 that year and the head coach went to indiana.
Quote from: Johnny B on February 29, 2020, 03:46:51 PM
My MO is supporting a tournament team that could make a run. Yours is whine non stop about the coach. Wille whiner. I don't like wojo much but whatever hope the team. Makes a run
No, your MO is to call names and whine at anybody that disagrees with you. But keep professing your fandom, maybe you will convince yourself. Other opinions about MU and the current coach may just be more valid than yours. And one can be a fan and be critical of mediocre performance which is exactly how MU has performed overall under Wojo. Maybe...just maybe...someday you will realize that.
Pop Quiz: Why does MU have the best resources of the BEast teams and still play poorly in lots of games. Could it be that something is wrong? And pointing that out does not disqualify sot
mebody from wanting MU to be better, and still be a fan. Instead of getting pissed off at others opinions, you might want to direct that energy toward supporting an upgrade.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 29, 2020, 05:22:45 PM
No, your MO is to call names and whine at anybody that disagrees with you. But keep professing your fandom, maybe you will convince yourself. Other opinions about MU and the current coach may just be more valid than yours. And one can be a fan and be critical of mediocre performance which is exactly how MU has performed overall under Wojo. Maybe...just maybe...someday you will realize that.
Pop Quiz: Why does MU have the best resources of the BEast teams and still play poorly in lots of games. Could it be that something is wrong? And pointing that out does not disqualify sot
mebody from wanting MU to be better, and still be a fan. Instead of getting pissed off at others opinions, you might want to direct that energy toward supporting an upgrade.
Couple days ago you made a post along the lines of let's beat hall and at least wait the season out. One loss later to a elete team and here you are whining like the years over and trashing wojo non stop. What a joke
Didn't expect Seton Hall to whoop MU again but they did all game, their offense got whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.....sucked to see Sacar go out with one of his worst games, he doesn't seem to play well against Powell & Hall, Bailey had another consistently inconsistent performance....next year will be interesting to see what Koby & Bailey do, could be ugly :-\ (Another disappointing end to a regular season, hopefully this March can be better than 2019)
to be expected, didn't even watch. wojo is making MU irrelevant
Quote from: Blackhat on February 29, 2020, 05:12:31 PM
We lost in overtime to Stanford almost making it to the Sweet Sixteen when Buzz was assistant. We were 25-10 that year and the head coach went to indiana.
So by your logic all that is required for a coach to become a worthy head coach candidate is to be an assistant for 1 year, to a coach who gets bounced in Round 2 of the NCAA..but leaves for a different job?? I'm sure Buzz attributes all his success to that 1-year under Crean, because Crean won that first round game.
So if Wojo happens to get a first round win this year, and leave for a different job - an assistant such as Stan then would become worthy/qualified to be a head coach?
Absurd.