Yikes
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/02/26/active-shooter-reported-molsoncoors-campus-unknown-injuries/4884282002/
Sounds like a "very active" shooter with "multiple victims" at Miller Coors in Milwaukee. Police are warning people to stay clear of the 4000 block of State Street.
Prayers to the victims and those involved. I'll refrain from the political comments I could make, as those have been made over...and over...and over...and over.
Prayers to everyone at MillerCoors.
https://twitter.com/MarquettePD/status/1232775367733268481?s=20
@MarquettePD
Marquette Police are responding with MPD to reports of a critical incident at Molson Coors. There is no active threat to campus at this time and no buildings need to go on lockdown.
@MarquettePD
The critical incident occurring at the Molson Coors campus is near the 4000 block of West State Street. Please stay clear of this area. We offer our prayers and support for the family and friends of those affected and for the entire Molson Coors family.
7 dead according to JS online. How awful.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/02/26/active-shooter-reported-molsoncoors-campus-unknown-injuries/4884282002/
JSonline website has crashed.
This is likely the best way to get info: https://twitter.com/journalsentinel
I'm way more worried about this than coronavirus.
Too many fookin' crazy folks walkin' the streets.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/02/26/at-least-1-person-shot-at-millercoors-campus-in-milwaukee/
Fired employee.
damn, a sickening tragedy.
This was a strange statement. Does anyone want to interpret it for me? Is she saying kids are doing the shooting or kids are being shot?
"It's crazy. Milwaukee is getting real crazy. It just needs to stop. So much violence in Milwaukee. Too many kids around. I know over there there's plenty kids around that area, and I just pray that everybody's safe," she said."
I imagine that's a reference to the schools (and homes) that are very close to MillerCoors.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 26, 2020, 04:26:53 PM
damn, a sickening tragedy.
This was a strange statement. Does anyone want to interpret it for me? Is she saying kids are doing the shooting or kids are being shot?
"It's crazy. Milwaukee is getting real crazy. It just needs to stop. So much violence in Milwaukee. Too many kids around. I know over there there's plenty kids around that area, and I just pray that everybody's safe," she said."
I would interpret that as concern over the safety of the many children in the vicinity of the incident.
Horrible. Chance game gets canceled?
According to the Journal Sentinel, Ferrill (the shooter) believed workers at the facility "were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around."
Sure is good that this guy could get a gun, no problems there
Quote from: LAMUfan on February 28, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
According to the Journal Sentinel, Ferrill (the shooter) believed workers at the facility "were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around."
Sure is good that this guy could get a gun, no problems there
I'm not necessarily saying any reason is a
good reason for a civilian to buy a gun, but "people breaking into my home" at least seems like one of the
better reasons.
Quote from: Benny B on February 28, 2020, 11:36:44 AM
I'm not necessarily saying any reason is a good reason for a civilian to buy a gun, but "people breaking into my home" at least seems like one of the better reasons.
"coming into his home". Not armed robbery, corporate espionage.
Quote from: Benny B on February 28, 2020, 11:36:44 AM
I'm not necessarily saying any reason is a good reason for a civilian to buy a gun, but "people breaking into my home" at least seems like one of the better reasons.
Totally. Let's give weapons to all the paranoid schizophrenics who think people are following them around.
Quote from: JWags85 on February 28, 2020, 11:54:03 AM
"coming into his home". Not armed robbery, corporate espionage.
Sure... but if someone breaks into your home, I'm pretty sure they don't announce their intentions. (And if they do, it's a landshark.)
Quote from: Benny B on February 28, 2020, 11:36:44 AM
I'm not necessarily saying any reason is a good reason for a civilian to buy a gun, but "people breaking into my home" at least seems like one of the better reasons.
"I keep a gun to protect my family from intruders."
"But what if one of your kids get a hold of it?"
"Won't happen. As a responsible owner, I keep my guns locked in a safe."
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IBTL ::)
Quote from: Pakuni on February 28, 2020, 01:11:17 PM
"I keep a gun to protect my family from intruders."
"But what if one of your kids get a hold of it?"
"Won't happen. As a responsible owner, I keep my guns locked in a safe."
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xZvvOZRmKay4xy/giphy.gif)
I know you're not implying that this guy was a responsible gun owner even in the broadest sense of the term, but, well, there it is.
Yes... I understand the point you are trying to make, and yes I am also deliberately mis-characterizing your words to make some manner of point, which - although I'm not exactly sure what it is - it's probably something along the lines of: The NRA's commentary being guaranteed to be even more illogical, and frankly, this is why we can't have a civil discussion on firearms because the issue has become so polarizing and so politically intertwined that the immediate reaction is not to think rationally and constructively, but rather to simply shrug it off and offer thoughts and prayers, not for the victims, but for the success of the political fundraising campaign being launched tomorrow on the back of broken sound bites, speculation and hyperbole.
Whatever my point is, the important thing is that I got it out there before I really thought my words through. God Bless America 2020.
Quote from: Benny B on February 28, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
I know you're not implying that this guy was a responsible gun owner even in the broadest sense of the term, but, well, there it is.
Yes... I understand the point you are trying to make, and yes I am also deliberately mis-characterizing your words to make some manner of point, which - although I'm not exactly sure what it is - it's probably something along the lines of: The NRA's commentary being guaranteed to be even more illogical, and frankly, this is why we can't have a civil discussion on firearms because the issue has become so polarizing and so politically intertwined that the immediate reaction is not to think rationally and constructively, but rather to simply shrug it off and offer thoughts and prayers, not for the victims, but for the success of the political fundraising campaign being launched tomorrow on the back of broken sound bites, speculation and hyperbole.
Whatever my point is, the important thing is that I got it out there before I really thought my words through. God Bless America 2020.
Thanks Benny.
Thoughts and prayers.
Quote from: Benny B on February 28, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
I know you're not implying that this guy was a responsible gun owner even in the broadest sense of the term, but, well, there it is.
Yes... I understand the point you are trying to make, and yes I am also deliberately mis-characterizing your words to make some manner of point, which - although I'm not exactly sure what it is - it's probably something along the lines of: The NRA's commentary being guaranteed to be even more illogical, and frankly, this is why we can't have a civil discussion on firearms because the issue has become so polarizing and so politically intertwined that the immediate reaction is not to think rationally and constructively, but rather to simply shrug it off and offer thoughts and prayers, not for the victims, but for the success of the political fundraising campaign being launched tomorrow on the back of broken sound bites, speculation and hyperbole.
Whatever my point is, the important thing is that I got it out there before I really thought my words through. God Bless America 2020.
This is many, many more words of response than my post merited.
It was just some snark borrowed from an Aussie comedian.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 28, 2020, 01:11:17 PM
"I keep a gun to protect my family from intruders."
"But what if one of your kids get a hold of it?"
"Won't happen. As a responsible owner, I keep my guns locked in a safe."
Another Jim Jefferies fan, I see. Legend.
Saw Jim Jefferies live at the Chicago theater. Was a 10:30 pm show... his second show of the night. He was hammered drunk. Really funny though.
Quote from: Benny B on February 28, 2020, 01:54:32 PM
I know you're not implying that this guy was a responsible gun owner even in the broadest sense of the term, but, well, there it is.
Yes... I understand the point you are trying to make, and yes I am also deliberately mis-characterizing your words to make some manner of point, which - although I'm not exactly sure what it is - it's probably something along the lines of: The NRA's commentary being guaranteed to be even more illogical, and frankly, this is why we can't have a civil discussion on firearms because the issue has become so polarizing and so politically intertwined that the immediate reaction is not to think rationally and constructively, but rather to simply shrug it off and offer thoughts and prayers, not for the victims, but for the success of the political fundraising campaign being launched tomorrow on the back of broken sound bites, speculation and hyperbole.
Whatever my point is, the important thing is that I got it out there before I really thought my words through. God Bless America 2020.
I just think we should ask you if you think people are bugging your computer and moving your furniture around before we let you buy a gun. It's not like someone like this is going to lie about their delusions.
Quote from: LAMUfan on February 28, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
According to the Journal Sentinel, Ferrill (the shooter) believed workers at the facility "were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around."
Sure is good that this guy could get a gun, no problems there
no it isn't and yes there are problems there, but how would any law or more laws on the books or more questions on the form have prevented this?
Quote from: LAMUfan on February 28, 2020, 05:43:07 PM
I just think we should ask you if you think people are bugging your computer and moving your furniture around before we let you buy a gun. It's not like someone like this is going to lie about their delusions.
all of the guys he worked with for years never saw this coming
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 28, 2020, 05:45:33 PM
no it isn't and yes there are problems there, but how would any law or more laws on the books or more questions on the form have prevented this?
Plenty of laws could have prevented this. Look at other countries for instance and their laws regarding the regulation of firearms.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 28, 2020, 07:28:38 PM
Plenty of laws could have prevented this. Look at other countries for instance and their laws regarding the regulation of firearms.
straw countries, 'ey? like murder is already against the law in most countries, yes. umm, like the "no gun zones" mmmmkay. hard to legislate evil
Quote from: rocket surgeon on February 28, 2020, 08:52:52 PM
straw countries, 'ey? like murder is already against the law in most countries, yes. umm, like the "no gun zones" mmmmkay. hard to legislate evil
You are ignoring my point completely. You most certainly can reduce gun deaths with legislation. There are countless examples that prove it.