Surprised to not see it posted yet, but Aaron Thompson (the best defender in the Big East per synergy) is out for tonight's game with a wrist injury.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 06:52:00 PM
Surprised to not see it posted yet, but Aaron Thompson (the best defender in the Big East per synergy) is out for tonight's game with a wrist injury.
That's huge for Marquette.
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Helps their offense. Hurts the defense a lot.
Christian David out, too, with a torn ACL. However, a wounded angry bulldog at home.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2020, 07:16:44 PM
Christian David out, too, with a torn ACL. However, a wounded angry bulldog at home.
Baddley questionable with the flu. That's not a big deal normally, but guard depth is now an issue with Thompson out. Baldwin has had a bad wrist too.
Quote from: BM1090 on January 24, 2020, 07:12:21 PM
Helps their offense. Hurts the defense a lot.
Thompson plays 33 minutes a game and leads team with 5 assists per game.
David was playing 14 minutes a game as second guy off the bench.
A lot of minutes with a very short bench.
If MU wins, the usual suspects will blame Butler injuries. If MU loses, the usual suspects will make it how MU couldn't win even with the all of the Butler injuries.
Tower
I think that is in accurate. Definitely gives a better chance to MU, but not slam dunk. Play smart ball and no one should bitch regardless of outcome. Lay an egg, different story.
Quote from: Goose on January 24, 2020, 07:32:12 PM
Tower
I think that is in accurate. Definitely gives a better chance to MU, but not slam dunk. Play smart, ball and no one should bitch regardless of outcome. Lay an egg, different story.
Yes, don't dribble into double teams and be patient - unlike the Providence game.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2020, 07:36:00 PM
You been on a vacation lately, glasses?
Yes, yes I have been. From what I've seen, looks like it was pretty dead in here for the most part anyways.
My daughter officially got into Butler today....though we got the unofficial heads up a few weeks ago. Told her hopefully not bad karma for dad's alma mater.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2020, 07:39:11 PM
My daughter officially got into Butler today....though we got the unofficial heads up a few weeks ago. Told her hopefully not bad karma for dad's alma mater.
Congrats!
Why Butler of all places?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 24, 2020, 07:38:38 PM
Yes, yes I have been. From what I've seen, looks like it was pretty dead in here for the most part anyways.
Yes, not a lot of complaints from the oppressed of late.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2020, 07:29:03 PM
If MU wins, the usual suspects will blame Butler injuries. If MU loses, the usual suspects will make it how MU couldn't win even with the all of the Butler injuries.
And conversely, the other usual suspects will excuse the loss and say "it's hard to win on the road" blah blah blah. Even though, they will have no Guard depth, and playing without the best defender in the BE.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 24, 2020, 07:40:42 PM
Congrats!
Why Butler of all places?
It's funny, she has been accepted to DePaul, Butler, Seton Hall, Xavier.....a lot of Big East schools. They have film programs which is her interest. If she gets into UCLA, USC, LMU she is staying in Cali, but at least she has options.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2020, 07:40:57 PM
Yes, not a lot of complaints from the oppressed of late.
Believe me, there's a lot to work on with this team. Tonight is a must win as it's being handed on a silver platter.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2020, 07:42:02 PM
It's funny, she has been accepted to DePaul, Butler, Seton Hall, Xavier.....a lot of Big East schools. They have film programs which is her interest. If she gets into UCLA, USC, LMU she is staying in Cali, but at least she has options.
No Chapman Film School?
How did MU lose to this Wisconsin team
How did they beat this Purdue team? Home game, away game. Any chance they would move the tip up since this one will be done so early?
No Thompson and no David means two of the top candidates for defending Markus are out. I assume they will try Jordan Tucker most of the night. If he gets in foul trouble or worn down the only other real option is Kamar Baldwin. McDermott and Nze are too slow and Battle is promising but plays defense like a freshman. I think Baldwin's lack of height will give Markus an edge and if he gets into foul trouble or worn out defending Markus, I'm not sure the Bulldogs will be able to score enough.
Thompson is also the floor general. Baldwin can play point but does not create for others the way Thompson does. I'd expect Baldwin and McDermott to play near the entire game. One of Golden and Smits will be on the floor at all times and Battle will sub in for Nze and Tucker when they need breathers. I think this also takes away Butler's ability to go small and fast. They sometimes play with Nze at the 5 and I think they will need him covering the 4 so Tucker can cover the 3 with the lack of guard depth.
Very nice to turn on the TV and see the badgers getting trounced.
Quote from: patso on January 24, 2020, 07:45:39 PM
How did MU lose to this Wisconsin team
We didn't lose to that team....'.we lost to the one that plays at the Kohl Center.
Quote from: muguru on January 24, 2020, 07:41:43 PM
And conversely, the other usual suspects will excuse the loss and say "it's hard to win on the road" blah blah blah. Even though, they will have no Guard depth, and playing without the best defender in the BE.
Lol you're already pre complaining about it.. I'm assuming with the injuries you're gonna expect win no matter what kind of game now. Should be a fun night
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2020, 07:48:41 PM
How did they beat this Purdue team? Home game, away game. Any chance they would move the tip up since this one will be done so early?
No, on your last question
Quote from: Johnny B on January 24, 2020, 07:58:43 PM
Lol you're already pre complaining about it.. I'm assuming with the injuries you're gonna expect win no matter what kind of game now. Should be a fun night
Injuries have no impact on Guru's expectations.
Nice Ed interview lol
Morrow in the pregame feature on FS1. Awkward.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2020, 07:29:03 PM
If MU wins, the usual suspects will blame Butler injuries. If MU loses, the usual suspects will make it how MU couldn't win even with the all of the Butler injuries.
Spoken like a true Wojo worshipper. Or better yet, if MU wins ot was a fantastic coaching job by Wojo. If MU loses, Butler was inspired by their losses and the rest of the team stepped up.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 24, 2020, 07:45:33 PM
No Chapman Film School?
Chapman is great.....she didn't get in. Only school to deny her. Which is likely why UCLA and USC will say no, but LMU is a possibility. Acceptance rates for some of these film programs are less than 10%. We shall see.
McDermott in starting lineup.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 24, 2020, 08:13:42 PM
Spoken like a true Wojo worshipper. Or better yet, if MU wins ot was a fantastic coaching job by Wojo. If MU loses, Butler was inspired by their losses and the rest of the team stepped up.
MU loses...Wojo's fault. MU wins...players did it. We get the script. Thanks Willie. Take a nap.
Koby really needs to stop with the airmailed passes
THE ANSWER
Koby my god
Koby is so damn frustrating at times.
Love that Theo didn't get whistled for any fouls. Going to be an intense game.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2020, 08:15:42 PM
MU loses...Wojo's fault. MU wins...players did it. We get the script. Thanks Willie. Take a nap.
They go a step further actually. Now that butler's 4th best guy is out a game on the road to a ranked team becomes an inexcusable loss. It's absolutely ludicrous. So if we win well cant give that much credit to the coaches or players because we "should have won" anyways. And if we lose we can all complain to no end because we should have won. Its ridiculous.
Cant be dribbling off your own leg Jayce with Markus curling for an open shot
Jesus Jayce.
2 on him already.
We are going to get destroyed down low
Jayce with a TO and 2 fouls in about a minute
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 08:28:53 PM
Jesus Jayce.
2 on him already.
We are going to get destroyed down low
Optimistic, as usual.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Optimistic, as usual.
Its just logic. We already had Nzi with Cain on him and that was without foul trouble.
Bs call on JJ...every game.
5 TOs already.
Quit the fuckin entry passes into the post!
This is just terrible.
Awful basketball since the quick start
Tough crowd in here tonight. Hostile road environment. We threw a good punch out of the gate. Butler answered. Looks like it's going to be a fun one.
Need to stop this run. We are doing a nice job getting to the basket. Won't see Markus miss too many that open.
Sacar needs to keep attacking these guys
Symir still with a lot of room for improvement defensively.
I mean, getting open looks just ice cold right now.
At least the rebounding is exactly so far.
Other than that though..
Bailey needs to play better,or Cain has to come back in
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on January 24, 2020, 08:41:01 PM
Bailey needs to play better,or Cain has to come back in
We gonna need Bailey's length on D
One point in last five minutes. Eight missed shots, two turnovers.
#mubb out-shot 60.7% eFG% to 44.7% so far... but down just 3 points. 21-18, 7:26 left in the first half. OK.
Seemed pretty ticky tack there.
Sacar make your damn free throws good lord.
Killing them off the dribble but it wont matter if you dont cash in.
Make free throws Anin!!
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 24, 2020, 08:43:22 PM
#mubb out-shot 60.7% eFG% to 44.7% so far... but down just 3 points. 21-18, 7:26 left in the first half. OK.
Can't complain about the looks we are getting.
uhhhh what was that D?
Leads to Baileys second foul
Great press
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 08:49:46 PM
uhhhh what was that D?
Leads to Baileys second foul
1st foul.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 08:49:46 PM
uhhhh what was that D?
Leads to Baileys second foul
Nevermind hes only got 1
Quote from: StillWarriors on January 24, 2020, 08:46:57 PM
Can't complain about the looks we are getting.
Really? Seems to me Butler's defended quite well. Markus having to work really hard to get his shots off. Seeing him come up short on his misses...tired legs?
Second time that play has worked for a 3. First to Cain, there to Bailey.
Good play so far
That play they run for Bailey is such a thing of beauty. Remember they always used to run that for Sam too.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 24, 2020, 08:50:58 PM
Second time that play has worked for a 3. First to Cain, there to Bailey.
Third, Markus got into the lane that time. Keep running it Woj.
Really need to find a way to have Bailey and Theo surive these last 3:30 wihtout getting #2
Markus will be fine in perio
2
Chico,
With respect to your daughter getting into Butler, congratulations are in order. I wish her all the best!
Curbina
Interesting seeing Koby on bench and us rolling with Bailey/Cain. Like seeing them play together.
Markus gotta make that
Howard is missing a ton of shots.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 08:56:00 PM
Interesting seeing Koby on bench and us rolling with Bailey/Cain. Like seeing them play together.
2 fouls but I have no issue with the Bailey and Cain combo. Lotta length.
That play has literally worked every single time.
Please stop leaving McDermott open
Bailey stroking a few is niiiiice tho
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2020, 08:57:40 PM
2 fouls but I have no issue with the Bailey and Cain combo. Lotta length.
It's our best lineup against these guys imo.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 24, 2020, 08:58:36 PM
That play has literally worked every single time.
Yes. And good on Wojo for continuing to go with it.
I thought Theo had a pretty good half. Did a nice job staying out of foul trouble. Played good D.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 24, 2020, 08:57:15 PM
Howard is missing a ton of shots.
45% and 42% shooting. He's fine all things considered
Quote from: willie warrior on January 24, 2020, 08:57:15 PM
Howard is missing a ton of shots.
Yeah, 5 for 12 and 18 points and 4 assists. Bench him.
Quote from: JWags85 on January 24, 2020, 09:02:03 PM
45% and 42% shooting. He's fine all things considered
Markus getting some friendly calls on drives for a change.
Up 4 at the half is something to be satisfied with.
Rebounding is phenomenal besides the one put back late.
Open shots falling more, keep it up half two.
Cut down the TO's.
Keep up with lots of Cain and Bailey togehter.
Good half. Like the Markus-Jamal-Brendan-Sacar-Theo lineup. Please stick with this lineup. No more Koby.
Someone on their board just said lavall got Td up going into the half
Quote from: Johnny B on January 24, 2020, 09:07:23 PM
Someone on their board just said lavall got Td up going into the half
I'm not surprised.
Markus getting a little star treatment IMHO
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 24, 2020, 09:09:09 PM
I'm not surprised.
Markus getting a little star treatment IMHO
How?
That guy was clearly in the restricted zone
Will be a really tough one to bring home in this environment but really pleased that they made it a game. Had a feeling this one was going to be basically over at the half especially with them desperate to break the losing streak.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 09:10:06 PM
How?
That guy was clearly in the restricted zone
I'm not referring to that one.
A few others were pretty weak.
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 24, 2020, 09:09:09 PM
I'm not surprised.
Markus getting a little star treatment IMHO
He's a POY candidate who gets abused every game. Bout time he gets some calls
Markus doing markus things, Sacar holding Baldwin in check. Game will come down to keeping him in check. Keep up the good work Sacar.
Quote from: JWags85 on January 24, 2020, 09:13:18 PM
He's a POY candidate who gets abused every game. Bout time he gets some calls
Totally agree.
From the way things were going in the middle of the half, being up is a nice win. Markus missed some shots he usually makes.
Need to close out on McDermott better.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 24, 2020, 08:14:32 PM
Chapman is great.....she didn't get in. Only school to deny her. Which is likely why UCLA and USC will say no, but LMU is a possibility. Acceptance rates for some of these film programs are less than 10%. We shall see.
Chapman is heavy on the math. My daughter got into to the film school but she was sports management as it is in the film school. She passed on attending.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 09:10:20 PM
Will be a really tough one to bring home in this environment but really pleased that they made it a game. Had a feeling this one was going to be basically over at the half especially with them desperate to break the losing streak.
Wait, whaaaat????
Starting the half with FTs?
Lavin and especially Marshall not so subtle in inferring Markus is selfish. I feel like their take is a microcosm of people's feelings about him... you either love him and appreciate his greatness or you admire his scoring but are frustrated with his ultra green light. I thought Lavin's comment about NCAA championship teams rarely having a score first PG was interesting
86% is typically nothing to sneeze at
But Markus missing free throws this year is just strange
Sit Koby. Bring in Cain.
Shooting like that is simply selfish basketball
Seriously Wojo. He sucks
Getting absolute thrashed in the paint and not rebounding right now
Bad attempt baily.
Theo needs to stop hunting for blocks.
Officials seem to be hell bent on finding a reason to call a T against us. Need to be extra careful.
Bailey has to be smart enough to not pick up a foul there.
We cannot be having a concussed Markus
Nice payback for Baldwin's T. 2 nothing's called as fouls.
Jesus get those chairs away from the baseline. Hopefully not a concussion
Not sure how he wrecks himself if he didn't get hit there
Want to see that again. Looked like a push.
If Theo were half as good on offense as he is on D he would be somethin.
Theo has been outstanding.
Playing so erratically on offense. Take some time.
I've never heard so much booing in my life than at this stadium
My god is kobe been bad on offense. Silly turnovers
Seriously enough McEwen its fu cking insulting right now.
9 pt lead with Baldwin/McDermott/Golden on bench. We are -3 and their ball.
MU has played a great game but really out of control right now.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 24, 2020, 09:41:12 PM
I've never heard so much booing in my life than at this stadium
And the officials are listening to it and changing the way they make calls, or making make up calls.
My goodness. Six point lead for like forever. Just cannot make a basket to extend the lead when Butler missing everything.
Koby having a very rough game tonight.
Symir, too.
Koby is going to get called for palming the ball at any moment. His dribble is incredibly awkward. He needs a rest tonight.
Koby is pressing. Trying too hard. Wants to player better so badly it's working against him. Just needs to slow down. Might be best to roll without him rest of this game.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 09:43:44 PM
Koby is pressing. Trying too hard. Wants to player better so badly it's working against him. Just needs to slow down. Might be best to roll without him rest of this game.
Agreed aside from the fact we'll need more minutes from him.
Koby has 8 rebounds
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
Agreed aside from the fact we'll need more minutes from him.
Should only be out there if Bailey gets #4.
No comment on those two previous misses.
This is on Wojo.
Koby killed all momentum.
Need Markus now
My lord koby my lord..
lol nice D Koby
Wow. Terrible call. Refs fucking us right now.
What a horrible call.
BRUTAL CALL
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 09:48:44 PM
lol nice D Koby
Did Koby kick your dog or something?? My god, all you do is rip the kid in every single game thread.
Nice job, MH
Quote from: muguru on January 24, 2020, 09:50:33 PM
Did Koby kick your dog or something?? My god, all you do is rip the kid in every single game thread.
Because hes been awful.
Calling it how I see it.
Sacar
Quote from: forgetful on January 24, 2020, 09:42:13 PM
And the officials are listening to it and changing the way they make calls, or making make up calls.
It's literally a constant droning of boos.
Quote from: Markusquette on January 24, 2020, 09:52:42 PM
It's literally a constant droning of boos.
Yeah a hell of a lotta booze as well I'm sure
Quote from: Markusquette on January 24, 2020, 09:52:42 PM
It's literally a constant droning of boos.
Am here, can confirm. God forbid they call the game even
Anim is in my MU top 20 now
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 09:52:12 PM
Because hes been awful.
Calling it how I see it.
You were saying the same things in the Georgetown game thread too and he was pretty damn good then.
Quote from: muguru on January 24, 2020, 09:55:55 PM
You were saying the same things in the Georgetown game thread too and he was pretty damn good then.
No he had a couple brutal possessions when we lost the 7 pt lead late
No travel?
A Markus 3 to put us up 9 would be really nice right now.
Let's bring this home, boys.
Under 4 boys.
Sacar and Bailey making big plays.
This has been an ugly game.. By koby, Howard... Marquette in general, butler, and the refs. Holy slop
Quote from: Markusquette on January 24, 2020, 09:59:33 PM
A Markus 3 to put us up 9 would be really nice right now.
They are selling out on him outside the perimeter, need to counter with ball movement cause guys are open
Quote from: muguru on January 24, 2020, 09:45:35 PM
Koby has 8 rebounds
And primarily holding Baldwin down. People need to watch both ends.
Butler looks discouraged. Can't stop us on offense and they are having all kinds of problems scoring on us.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 24, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
And primarily holding Baldwin down. People need to watch both ends.
Yep.
Like how we are holding and building the lead
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 24, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
And primarily holding Baldwin down. People need to watch both ends.
Weve held Baldwin down with Cain and Bailey in too tho. So today the D isnt as huge.
It's about to be Koby time tho. GOnna need his free throw shooting if we hold this lead the next couple mins
Dammit what a play but Baldwin blocked it.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 24, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
And primarily holding Baldwin down. People need to watch both ends.
Scoop cares about 2 stats. Points and blocks. Anything else no matta
Dammit we needed that rebound.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on January 24, 2020, 10:03:46 PM
Scoop cares about 2 stats. Points and blocks. Anything else no matta
Tend to think most scoopers have valued MU's rebounding a lot this year.
Can not pull away. Every time we get it to 6 they immediately respond. Good game though
We let Baldwin stop and pop too quickly that last possesion.
9 seconds to get a good shot here.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 24, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
And primarily holding Baldwin down. People need to watch both ends.
Hasn't Sacar primarily been defending Baldwin?
Howard needs to make good decisions
Why have we gone away from having Bailey set the screen in the PnR?????
That was not ideal.
Need to get a stop and a rebound.
Well I'm nervous.
This is death.
Please hold on
Just awful Markus.
Baldwin murdering us.
Ugh what a collapse. Need a basket now or it's over.
Yeah theres two ends for Koby lol
Absolutely terrible ball handling by Howard
Quote from: Markusquette on January 24, 2020, 10:12:23 PM
Ugh what a collapse. Need a basket now or it's over.
No...but a hoop would be nice.
Just once I'd like Markus to see the roller to the basket
I HATE these situations, because Butler will get last possession regardless. C'mon boys...please..get a hoop here, that's all I ask.
baldwin pushes off every damn time
Those were tough shots Baldwin hit. Damn.
Quote from: muguru on January 24, 2020, 10:13:12 PM
I HATE these situations, because Butler will get last possession regardless. C'mon boys...please..get a hoop here, that's all I ask.
Could go for a 2 for 1 here.
Pick n roll with Markus and Bailey with Sacar in the corner.
What is Bailey doing?
Terrible decision
Fouled them when were tied?????????
uhhhhhh
Wow. Wojo called for that.
OMG
just idiotic
Wtf is that foul...
What is with Bailey, he think MU up? What the heck was that
Hmmmm, big brain play. Marquette has a better chance hitting a 3 instead of defending a last shot?
I've seen this movie before
Howard lost this game tonight
WTF are they doing. first the foul then a 30 footer with 10 seconds left?
Absolutely pathetic Markus
Dude forces every big shot.
There was fu cking 10 seconds left down 1
WTF Markus
Down 1.... Shoot a contested 3 pointer.
Nice.
Now hes going to drill this one for ot.
Not good.
What a collapse. Nice job butler
Classic collapse
What a disappointing way to end the game. Up 6 the entire half until the last few minutes. Huge swing if they lose. This is a big game.
Wojo and Markus choked.
Total pee down the paint leg. Wojo sucks
What the unnatural carnal knowledge was Bailey doing on that foul...that one is going to haunt MU the rest of the season. Just absolutely ridiculous.
I bet they foul
So frustrating, to play such good team offense then revert to trying to go one of five one player at a time in the last 2 1/2 minutes.
Typical MU down the stretch
Absolutely pathetic
I want the last two hours of my life back.
Wow.
No fucking way.
Koby!!!
Holy unnatural carnal knowledge!!!
Well...Ill give KOby his due there
unreal
Quote from: nyg on January 24, 2020, 10:15:18 PM
What is with Bailey, he think MU up? What the heck was that
Wojo was slapping his wrist on sideline which looks like foul signal..
Omg!!!!
HUGE BALLS
Well, I called it for the wrong guy :P
Marcus better not be dribbling in overtime
KOBY!!!
I give wojo huge credit for having koby take that shot.
They just let McEwen shoot that one. Didn't even try to contest.
Still a chance here in OT. Do it boys!
Also that clock clearly didnt start on time
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 10:19:16 PM
Well...Ill give KOby his due there
unreal
You'll probably be ripping on him with 4:45 left in OT.
Against all odds. Koby from 29'!
Legit did not know how to react after that. Shocking. Wow, great shot. PG where you at? Haha.
So Koby misses three layups and then that. Unreal. That's why you foul, see Providence.
Still don't get the Bailey foul. Did staff tell him?......
Markus makeup time now.
They should have fouled lol
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 10:19:57 PM
Also that clock clearly didnt start on time
That clock didn't start until Baldwin was over the time line. Shameful.
Markus is tired. Shots shot so time to use him as decoy
Quote from: IL Warrior on January 24, 2020, 10:20:05 PM
You'll probably be ripping on him with 4:45 left in OT.
Nope I call it how I see it.
Quote from: MDMU04 on January 24, 2020, 10:21:01 PM
That clock didn't start until Baldwin was over the time line. Shameful.
Was wondering about that.
We cannot stop Baldwin
Butler faithful creating their own lyrics lol
Howard, please defer. The last 8 minutes have looked like the Seton hall BET game.
Refs are a joke. Baldwin sticks his forearm out on every drive and he's drawing the foul.
LOL foul on us.
Good howard screen. To bad bailey couldn't hit.
Terrible defense on Baldwin they're letting him rest Roblin and out there put pressure on him
Markus really disappears a lot in crunch time.
How they call a foul during that pile up. rofl
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Markus really disappears a lot in crunch time.
Gtown was the closest hes ever come to a game winner with his tie breaker with a minute or so left.
This is ridiculous.
Koby needs some new shoes.
Tip your hat to Baldwin. He has been unstoppable in last 6 minutes.
Bailey a couple dumb fouls tonight with touch fouls that turned into three pointers.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Markus really disappears a lot in crunch time.
Defenses are selling out on him.
I don't get it...they shut him down the entire 1st half...this would be a great time to try a possession of zone
They just called a foul on a player that was lying on the ground. Because the offensive player jumped forward and landed on him. Absurd.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Markus really disappears a lot in crunch time.
Think that's a function of having dead legs. He works SO hard all game getting his shot off, on D. It adds up.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Markus really disappears a lot in crunch time.
Lots and lots of points. Not very many big ones though, I'm afraid.
Howard might as well shoot from half court
Thats a wrap I think.
Markus cant hit crap
Grab the ball.
WOJO STOP LETTING HIM SHOOT THAT SHOT
Baldwin the much better player tonight.
Quote from: MDMU04 on January 24, 2020, 10:29:30 PM
Lots and lots of points. Not very many big ones though, I'm afraid.
So stupid.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
Think that's a function of having dead legs. He works SO hard all game getting his crap off, on D. It adds up.
Rowsey worked just as hard and did not have these issues.
PATHETIC. Just awful Theo.
Tied the game Providence style but promptly folded
Apparently there's absolutely no defense for this guy,nba scouts looking at him,while Marcus keeps chucking
How many high ball screens do we need to see before we adjust and switch or go high on them to stay on Baldwin? Maybe make an adjustment?
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 10:31:03 PM
PATHETIC. Just awful Theo.
Tied the game Providence style but promptly folded
We're not in the game of not for Theo, you whiny turd.
Quote from: SERocks on January 24, 2020, 10:30:43 PM
Rowsey worked just as hard and did not have these issues.
You clearly never watched Rowsey play D...
Pathetic - next coach please
Quote from: MDMU04 on January 24, 2020, 10:31:35 PM
How many high ball screens do we need to see before we adjust and switch or go high on them to stay on Baldwin? Maybe make an adjustment?
adjustments??? With Wojo?
This one hurts...I'm absolutely FURIOUS they never pulled this out. Lead most of the 2nd half. Unfuckingbelieveable choke job. Markus hasn't been the same since he hit his head.
Love the "lead all game and lose in the final minute" games.. absolutely brutal. They really pissed it away. Wont hurt the season much but the way they lost this one was just pathetic. Fu*k..
Markus 8 for 24, 4 for 15 threes.
Baldwin Stud of Game. Impressive to say the least, he has 30 and had two in first half. Plus covered Markus, one of best against MU in sometime.
Quote from: SERocks on January 24, 2020, 10:30:43 PM
Rowsey worked just as hard and did not have these issues.
Selective memory
MU has the remarkable ability to do exactly what their opponent needs them to do. Markus was too soft with the ball in regulation. They should be celebrating a big win.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 24, 2020, 10:30:31 PM
Baldwin the much better player tonight.
One is 8-24, the other is 9-24. The difference is when they made their big plays.
There's no denying but this has been a horrendous coaching job down the stretch
Quote from: MDMU04 on January 24, 2020, 10:31:35 PM
How many high ball screens do we need to see before we adjust and switch or go high on them to stay on Baldwin? Maybe make an adjustment?
They should have adjusted and forced him to go left...perhaps staff wasn't aware of his penchant to go right as a lefty?
Ole zero adjustment wojo at work tonight
I love Marcus. I really do. Such a special talent. But tonight, he cost us the game down the stretch.
Several of you were gone for a few minutes. I see you're back now.
Quote from: nyg on January 24, 2020, 10:32:26 PM
Markus 8 for 24, 4 for 15 threes.
Baldwin Stud of Game. Impressive to say the least, he has 30 and had two in first half. Plus covered Markus, one of best against MU in sometime.
Baldwin is going to get too much credit tonight. MU never threw anything different at him the entire second half.
Markus played hero ball tonight and made one questionable decision after another down the stretch. The more poised star player won the game for his team tonight. The last two minutes of regulation were brutal. Marquette squandered a golden opportunity for a resume building road win. What a shame.
Lmaoooo what an awful coaching job.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2020, 10:31:47 PM
We're not in the game of not for Theo, you whiny turd.
Uhh i didnt say theo lost us the game dumb ass
When Marcus hit his head .. he was off for the rest of the game.
20% from 3 for MH.
Thanks, dude!
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on January 24, 2020, 10:34:21 PM
Uhh i didnt say theo lost us the game dumb ass
You're such a massive, whiny b*tch. You suck.
Pick n roll with Bailey was great earlier in the game then nowhere to be found. Let Baldwin get to his spot EVERY time. F job from Wojo at the end
Howard really needs to know when to defer. Holy crap.
Quote from: MDMU04 on January 24, 2020, 10:31:35 PM
How many high ball screens do we need to see before we adjust and switch or go high on them to stay on Baldwin? Maybe make an adjustment?
Wojo doesn't know what to do. That's why it happens over and over and over.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 24, 2020, 10:34:37 PM
When Marcus hit his head .. he was off for the rest of the game.
This. I wouldn't be surprised to hear later he has a concussion.
Theo sat back on the pick and rolls and Baldwin hit shot after shot. He needed to step up and close that out.
Quote from: forgetful on January 24, 2020, 10:32:51 PM
One is 8-24, the other is 9-24. The difference is when they made their big plays.
No, the difference is one made 4 shots that counted for 3 points instead of two.. the other (Baldwin) made zero.
Learn basic sh1t.
Howard made 2 shots in the last 9:52 of regulation, and nothing in ot
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2020, 10:35:17 PM
You're such a massive, whiny b*tch. You suck.
Yet here you are whining
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on January 24, 2020, 10:36:30 PM
Howard made 2 shots in the last 9:52 of regulation, and nothing in ot
Yep, after injury.
Markus forcing shots didn't help - but the reason for this loss falls squarely on the coaching staff's willingness to let Butler's best player get his best shot possession after possession in the second half.
Ummmm hang on a minute
What the actual F!! Are you kidding Koby, Koby, Sacar!
Imagine if we didn't force Markus 28 footers the previous 5 minutes
in b4 markus 40 footer
Jeez good heart
and it ends on a biffed lay up
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 24, 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Markus really disappears a lot in crunch time.
Unfortunately, he does not disappear in crunch time.
Wonder how Anim will enjoy seeing film of that "screen" Markus gave him?
Jeeeeeeeesus howard
If Markus takes a seat with 4 minutes left in regulation we win this game. I love the kid, but this is why sam hauser transferred, he needed to be reigned in late in this game
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 10:33:12 PM
They should have adjusted and forced him to go left...perhaps staff wasn't aware of his penchant to go right as a lefty?
How about just doubling him and forcing him to give up the ball?
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 24, 2020, 10:43:15 PM
How about just doubling him and forcing him to give up the ball?
Right. Close him out and live with the results.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on January 24, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
I love the kid, but this is why sam hauser transferred, he needed to be reigned in late in this game
You're 100% correct. Shades of that loss at Nova that blew the locker room up. And the Seton Hall BET game that vaporized it.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on January 24, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
If Markus takes a seat with 4 minutes left in regulation we win this game. I love the kid, but this is why sam hauser transferred, he needed to be reigned in late in this game
this dude ain't wrong. Very reminiscent of the Seton Hall BET game.
Great job making adjustments Wojo...NOT. This is on him...what would a Wojo season be without one of these gut wrenching, head scratcher choke jobs?? So f'n pissed
We had a higher eFG%. Butler outscored us by 16 from the FT line. eFG% no matter.
Great effort by the team. Koby wanted it tonight, no doubt. Markus went completely cold in the 2nd half and that's what cost us. Baldwin got hot, oh well. But Markus has to be better with shot selection.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on January 24, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
If Markus takes a seat with 4 minutes left in regulation we win this game. I love the kid, but this is why sam hauser transferred, he needed to be reigned in late in this game
Yet, made every big shot in the close game at Georgetown.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on January 24, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
If Markus takes a seat with 4 minutes left in regulation we win this game. I love the kid, but this is why sam hauser transferred, he needed to be reigned in late in this game
Donny Marshall really kind of calling Markus our at the half and again postgame. Markus last made shot was at 15 minute mark of reg..meaning he'd didn't have a make for last 20 minutes of game with OT added.
Live or die with Markus. Love the kid though. Got tat take the occasional bad with all the good.
Quote from: muguru on January 24, 2020, 10:44:38 PM
Great job making adjustments Wojo...NOT. This is on him...what would a Wojo season be without one of these gut wrenching, head scratcher choke jobs?? So f'n pissed
Have a smoke. It's all good. ;)
People trying to put blame on the only ball player we have on offense. There is garbage for offensive options outside of markus! Its uwm's roster plus howard.
Baldwin was lights out. Markus wasn't the same after taking a tumble. Tip your cap and get em back in Milwaukee.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on January 24, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
If Markus takes a seat with 4 minutes left in regulation we win this game. I love the kid, but this is why sam hauser transferred, he needed to be reigned in late in this game
I don't think benching him would solve it but using him as decoy for sure. Ill advised shots at the end
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on January 24, 2020, 10:46:46 PM
People trying to put blame on the only ball player we have on offense. There is garbage for offensive options outside of markus! Its uwm's roster plus howard.
You're extremely stupid.
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 24, 2020, 10:43:15 PM
How about just doubling him and forcing him to give up the ball?
Don't remember MU showing on a single high screen for Baldwin down the stretch. With his penchant for the midrange game, that's just asking for him to murder you.
Quote from: forgetful on January 24, 2020, 10:44:46 PM
We had a higher eFG%. Butler outscored us by 16 from the FT line. eFG% no matter.
Lavall's T worked. They were in the double bonus with plenty of time left in the game, Butler ended with 7 second half fouls.
Also, shout out to the trash floor at Hinkle, looked like an ice rink the last 5 min plus OT
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 10:46:06 PM
Live or die with Markus. Love the kid though. Got tat take the occasional bad with all the good.
Here is where I disagree--Markus insisted on playing 1-on-5 for the last few minutes of the game. It is one thing to simply have an off shooting game--then we take the bad with the good. But when he dominates the ball, refuses to pass, turns it over, and fires up a 26-footer the second he touches the ball after Koby/Sacar bring it up...that's just bad basketball.
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 24, 2020, 10:50:29 PM
Here is where I disagree--Markus insisted on playing 1-on-5 for the last few minutes of the game. It is one thing to simply have an off shooting game--then we take the bad with the good. But when he dominates the ball, refuses to pass, turns it over, and fires up a 26-footer the second he touches the ball after Koby/Sacar bring it up...that's just bad basketball.
Tell that to a Pro Wojo and they will get you banned for 2 weeks....lol
It's a shame that Markus has such poor discipline. He's not going to make the NBA because of it. He's a liability and shouldn't be as a senior. Wojo should have coached that out of him last year.
The leash that Wojo gives Howard is ridiculous. It was the same way he handled Henry Ellenson. He doesn't coach he just lets the star player run wild. Meanwhile all the other players don't develop. Some here assume Howard is our only talent capable of scoring. How can you think that when they are not given the freedom to participate in the offense since Howard has the ultimate green light despite being ice cold. If he was hampered by hitting the chair, put him on the bench. Howard seems like a great guy, but damn, this is on Wojo. I like Wojo but not as a coach. Relying on your star player to get you wins as opposed to coaching the team is not coaching. Players have regressed and lost confidence under his watch and that's on Wojo.
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 24, 2020, 10:50:29 PM
Here is where I disagree--Markus insisted on playing 1-on-5 for the last few minutes of the game. It is one thing to simply have an off shooting game--then we take the bad with the good. But when he dominates the ball, refuses to pass, turns it over, and fires up a 26-footer the second he touches the ball after Koby/Sacar bring it up...that's just bad basketball.
True. I do agree. I've just come to peace with it - as this is the bed Wojo made by giving him the ultimate green light. However it is also the reason why I've posted I wouldn't want to play with him..probably why the Hausers left too.
Catch 22 though because Markus does make a fair amount of those step back 25' shots so..what do you do?
I do think he's fatiguing at end of games. Shooting 20+ times per game, plus running off screens baseline, plus defending while being undersized? Thats a lot to ask. Guessing his shooting percentage for season is lower in 2nd half.
Quote from: JWags85 on January 24, 2020, 10:49:44 PM
Also, shout out to the trash floor at Hinkle, looked like an ice rink the last 5 min plus OT
When my daughter played there last year there was standing water on the floor at the ends. I've never seen anything like it. They had huge fans blowing to try to keep the court dry. Fortunately the VB court is a lot smaller and the really wet areas were not in play.
Quote from: FrennA on January 24, 2020, 11:04:27 PM
The leash that Wojo gives Howard is ridiculous. It was the same way he handled Henry Ellenson. He doesn't coach he just lets the star player run wild. Meanwhile all the other players don't develop. Some here assume Howard is our only talent capable of scoring. How can you think that when they are not given the freedom to participate in the offense since Howard has the ultimate green light despite being ice cold. If he was hampered by hitting the chair, put him on the bench. Howard seems like a great guy, but damn, this is on Wojo. I like Wojo but not as a coach. Relying on your star player to get you wins as opposed to coaching the team is not coaching. Players have regressed and lost confidence under his watch and that's on Wojo.
Very well said. Think this summarizes Wojo's tenure to a "t." Hopefully he figures it out and improves.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 11:10:27 PM
Very well said. Think this summarizes Wojo's tenure to a "t." Hopefully he figures it out and improves.
;D ;D Does that happen around year 8?
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2020, 11:10:27 PM
Very well said. Think this summarizes Wojo's tenure to a "t." Hopefully he figures it out and improves.
We are in year 6..... year 21 total. You don't think he saw Coach K deal with players like this at Duke in his 15 years? C'mon.
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 24, 2020, 10:50:29 PM
Here is where I disagree--Markus insisted on playing 1-on-5 for the last few minutes of the game. It is one thing to simply have an off shooting game--then we take the bad with the good. But when he dominates the ball, refuses to pass, turns it over, and fires up a 26-footer the second he touches the ball after Koby/Sacar bring it up...that's just bad basketball.
What...another endorsement of Hausergate.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 25, 2020, 06:10:41 AM
What...another endorsement of Hausergate.
If anybody has a tape, please post video of the pick Howard pretended to set for Sacar late in OT. After Howard let the defender breeze by, Sacar had to alter his shot to avoid the defender (May have even gotten a piece) and his shot rimmed out. Even a marginal pick rather than blowing him a kiss would've resulted in a basket for Sacar.