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Title: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: Heisenberg on January 07, 2020, 01:11:43 PM
Providence is the lowest-ranked Big East team, and tonight is also a home game.

Markus has put up big numbers against the Friars, including 52 in one game two years ago.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/marquettes-markus-howard-explodes-for-52-points-in-overtime-win-vs-providence/

So ... is tonight the last time in Markus' career to drop 50+ in a game?


And yes ... I realize we may never see another player again that this is a legitimate question.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: BM1090 on January 07, 2020, 01:20:30 PM
No.

1. Doubtful it happens again.

2. Providence is the worst BE team (per Kenpom) but that's mostly because of their offense. Their defense is good.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: MU82 on January 07, 2020, 01:49:05 PM
Marquette had 45 against very good K-State and Buffalo teams a year ago. If he's in video-game mode, he can score 50 against anybody.

But certainly, odds are long that he score 50 again in his career. Relatively few college basketball players even get to 30 points in a game, let alone 50.

Didn't Markus become the first player in the long and glorious history of the Big East to have two 50-point games? Before Markus came along, only six times in program history had a player scored 41 or more.

We are lucky to have gotten to see Markus be the elite scorer he is.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: cheebs09 on January 07, 2020, 01:51:53 PM
Hasn't he had his biggest scoring games on the road? At Providence and At Creighton?
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: Heisenberg on January 07, 2020, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 07, 2020, 01:51:53 PM
Hasn't he had his biggest scoring games on the road? At Providence and At Creighton?

There have been many games when Markus has been in the upper 30s or 40s and then shut it down because we were cruising to a win.

So, I think it is not about road/home, it is about the other team keeping it close.  Both his prior 50+ games went into OT.  So Markus had to be a scoring machine for more than 40 minutes.  Otherwise, he spends the final minutes of the game on the bench as victory is a lock.

(If you're a Track & Field fan like me, then you know that often when a world record is set, second place, or even third place, often breaks the old record too, or is at least a top ten all-time performance.  They needed second place to challenge them all the way to the line. WRs are not often set with a dominating performance when someone is way out in front alone. (Bolt being an exception)
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: tower912 on January 07, 2020, 02:21:07 PM
50 is such an outlier.   I doubt we will ever see it from an MU player again.   So much has to go right.   Having said that, I think Markus may have one more in him.   I doubt he needs it tonight.   It sure would be cool at MSG.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on January 07, 2020, 02:24:09 PM
Markus has the ability to go for 50 any night
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: Its DJOver on January 07, 2020, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on January 07, 2020, 02:20:22 PM
There have been many games when Markus has been in the upper 30s or 40s and then shut it down because we were cruising to a win.

So, I think it is not about road/home, it is about the other team keeping it close.  Both his prior 50+ games went into OT.  So Markus had to be a scoring machine for more than 40 minutes.  Otherwise, he spends the final minutes of the game on the bench as victory is a lock.

(If you're a Track & Field fan like me, then you know that often when a world record is set, second place, or even third place, often breaks the old record too, or is at least a top ten all-time performance.  They needed second place to challenge them all the way to the line. WRs are not often set with a dominating performance when someone is way out in front alone. (Bolt being an exception)

Oh there's so much wrong here.

Three 50 point games, not 2.

November 29th, 2019.  51 points, in 32 minutes, in a 22 point win where we lead by 30, just over 15 minutes into the game, not exactly close.

Markus hitting 50 depends entirely on how hot he is from 3, and how many times he can get to the free throw line.  He has the potential to do that against any team remaining on the schedule.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 07, 2020, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on January 07, 2020, 02:24:09 PM
Markus has the ability to go for 50 any night

Yep, this is where I reside, I would not Bet against him.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: lawdog77 on January 07, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2020, 02:21:07 PM
50 is such an outlier.   I doubt we will ever see it from an MU player again.   So much has to go right.   Having said that, I think Markus may have one more in him.   I doubt he needs it tonight.   It sure would be cool at MSG.
Atlanta
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: dgies9156 on January 07, 2020, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2020, 02:21:07 PM
50 is such an outlier.   I doubt we will ever see it from an MU player again. 

I hope you are right. If you are, it means the team is balanced and is playing defense. And, if we're balanced, one would expect we're pretty good.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: wadesworld on January 07, 2020, 03:23:20 PM
This is probably one of the least likely games to score 50.  Just because he did it to Providence years ago doesn't mean he's going to do it again years later.  News flash: rosters change in college basketball from year to year.

Providence slows it down, is good defensively, and has length (only one rotational player who's under 6'3") and athleticism at the "guard" positions (actually one of their big issues is they don't really have a lead guard).
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: tower912 on January 07, 2020, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: lawdog77 on January 07, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
Atlanta
Winner
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 07, 2020, 06:11:52 PM
Since 52, Howard has averaged just 18 ppg against Providence, shot 20% from 2, 29.4% from 3, and 29.8 eFG%. They will stick length on him all night and be very physical (32 FTA in the 3 games). This probably isn't the night. Love to be wrong.
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 07, 2020, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from: lawdog77 on January 07, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
Atlanta

Georgia Tech for a NIT game?
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: jonny09 on January 07, 2020, 08:58:45 PM
If I was to tell you back in 2016 that over the next 4 years we would have what would ultimately become the Big East's all time leading scorer what would you have thought the over/under on tournament wins would have been?
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 07, 2020, 09:19:21 PM
Dam dat Markus. Drop 50 and wee wynn goin' awey, aina?
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 07, 2020, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: jonny09 on January 07, 2020, 08:58:45 PM
If I was to tell you back in 2016 that over the next 4 years we would have what would ultimately become the Big East's all time leading scorer what would you have thought the over/under on tournament wins would have been?

I'd say a conservative estimate is 2 while a more aggressive one is 4.  If Markus ever had a big man in the post who could score, that whole offense would have opened up. 
Title: Re: Providence at Home - Last Chance For Markus to Drop 50?
Post by: JWags85 on January 08, 2020, 12:12:28 AM
If Markus got a whistle 50% of the time he got smacked in the lane or inside the arc tonight, he probably gets close. I don't think the reffing cost MU the game, but they let them abuse Markus repeatedly
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