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Title: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: BM1090 on December 28, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
McEwen not playing due to thumb injury.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MuMark on December 28, 2019, 11:53:12 AM
Should be interesting to see how Sy and Greg play  with extended run today.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: BM1090 on December 28, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
McEwen not playing due to thumb injury.

Yikes. Not what you want to see going into conference play. Was hoping today would be a game where he would get some confidence
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MuMark on December 28, 2019, 12:52:11 PM
Is this Cain's first career start?

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1210995772130508801?s=21
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 28, 2019, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: MuMark on December 28, 2019, 12:52:11 PM
Is this Cain's first career start?

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1210995772130508801?s=21

No, he had 3 last year.  They were just very forgettable.

And apparently one start as a freshman that I don't remember.  But it's listed.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on December 28, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
Love Bailey and Cain in lineup together.  Length.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 01:10:32 PM
Great start.

Markus is red hot from deep but also moving the ball to the open man.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 01:14:58 PM
The last possession looked like hand check was the defense scheme
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
Bad feeling there's gonna be an injury with the way CA is playing.  There is aggressive and there is out of control
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 01:19:55 PM
We could be shooting a lot of free throws today.

8 fouls for CA and we are not even 7 minutes in.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on December 28, 2019, 01:40:38 PM
Clown announcers keep talking about how the big east is overlooked and there are only 2 big east teams ranked.. dont even mention the fact that what 7 teams are just outside the top 25 receiving votes. Also power 5 this power 5 that. Ooooh the big east has beaten alot of power 5s omg yay. Power powa. So much power
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 01:42:05 PM
Markus free throw stroke still outta wack!

Gonna be interesting to see how many CA guys foul out at this rate.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 28, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Imagine CA guy watching 30 minutes from the bench because he fouled out In the first half.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Oldgym on December 28, 2019, 01:56:18 PM
Markus 25
CAU 24

Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 01:57:39 PM
29 FTA for us

24 total pts for them
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on December 28, 2019, 02:08:23 PM
I would love to see us keep up that first half effort. A 60-point win would be good for the metrics.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 28, 2019, 02:08:23 PM
I would love to see us keep up that first half effort. A 60-point win would be good for the metrics.

Agreed. I'd like us to sit Markus most of the half but would love to see the boys keep the foot on the gas.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 28, 2019, 02:11:41 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 28, 2019, 02:08:23 PM
I would love to see us keep up that first half effort. A 60-point win would be good for the metrics.

What was the kenpom or net spread? ?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:15:32 PM
Not a smart play by theo, but I did chuckle.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 02:16:38 PM
So Theo is penalized because the rail thin opponent can't catch a pass?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 28, 2019, 02:11:41 PM
What was the kenpom or net spread? ?

The betting line opened at 24.5 and ended up at 25.5.

So probably in that range
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Pakuni on December 28, 2019, 02:27:20 PM
Things I never want to see again:
Markus taking a charge with the team up 39 points.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 02:28:52 PM
There is your season highlight
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
Gorgeous pass
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 28, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on December 28, 2019, 02:27:20 PM
Things I never want to see again:
Markus taking a charge with the team up 39 points.
Bailey limping to the locker room with Conference play in 4 days.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: brewcity77 on December 28, 2019, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 28, 2019, 02:11:41 PM
What was the kenpom or net spread? ?

26 on Pomeroy.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:31:49 PM
Symir!!!
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
Symir has taken over!!! (a 50 point game)
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2019, 02:33:33 PM
Central Arkansas might not be any good, folks 🙃
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:33:42 PM
Not exactly high caliber opposition, but Symir has looked a lot better on defense. The passing...always crisp. A little offense even better. Really nice rotation on that 3
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 02:34:47 PM
They literally did not want to call a foul there.

Poor Ed
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:36:36 PM
How are there still 11 mins left? This game feels like it has been going forevern
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 28, 2019, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:36:36 PM
How are there still 11 mins left? This game feels like it has been going forevern

Imagine how Central Arkansas feels
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Markusquette on December 28, 2019, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 28, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
Bailey limping to the locker room with Conference play in 4 days.

I missed that. What happened?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:41:40 PM
Quote from: Markusquette on December 28, 2019, 02:39:56 PM
I missed that. What happened?

Knee to knee contact it looked like.He was on the exercise bike. Now back in
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 02:43:19 PM
89 pts with 9:11 left.  What's the team scoring record?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: tower912 on December 28, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:41:40 PM
Knee to knee contact it looked like.He was on the exercise bike. Now back in

Phew.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:44:59 PM
Symir wirh 2 nice treys. Nice progression

BB has been everywhere today too.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
Can someone let Bardo know we have only played 2 roads games and are 1-1?

This dude keeps harping on our road play as if we are 1-5 or something.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Markusquette on December 28, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Time for the walk-ons.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 28, 2019, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
Can someone let Bardo know we have only played 2 roads games and are 1-1?

This dude keeps harping on our road play as if we are 1-5 or something.

Must have been reading scoop
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on December 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: Markusquette on December 28, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Time for the walk-ons.

Agree.  No reason to have any legit players on floor at this point..and reward those guys for the work they put in.  Come on Steve!
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Heisenberg on December 28, 2019, 02:59:52 PM
What is the all-time game scoring record?  If memory is correct, I thought it was 108 points.

6 away from that with 2:28.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: 1SE on December 28, 2019, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Markusquette on December 28, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Time for the walk-ons.

Seriously
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
That was legitimately a good move and basket by Gardiner
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Herman Cain on December 28, 2019, 03:05:11 PM
Beautiful spin move by Tommy G
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: 1SE on December 28, 2019, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
That was legitimately a good move and basket by Gardiner

Did he walk?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 28, 2019, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: 1SE on December 28, 2019, 03:06:03 PM
Did he walk?

I saw nothink
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: nyg on December 28, 2019, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on December 28, 2019, 02:59:52 PM
What is the all-time game scoring record?  If memory is correct, I thought it was 108 points.

6 away from that with 2:28.

Would have demolished it, but MU missed 13 free throws.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 28, 2019, 03:14:31 PM
(https://cinemarant.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/sgt-schultz-nothing.gif?w=774)
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 28, 2019, 03:17:28 PM
Quote from: nyg on December 28, 2019, 03:13:55 PM
Would have demolished it, but MU missed 13 free throws.

Well, first... the record wasn't 108.

Second, our FT% was 63.9% and the free throw game for us was GREAT. Why would you point out 13 missed free throws? If we had shot like an average team, we would have TWO more points. Could have made just one more triple and bested that.

#FTsNoMatta
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Heisenberg on December 28, 2019, 03:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 28, 2019, 03:17:28 PM
Well, first... the record wasn't 108.

Then what is it?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: oldwarrior81 on December 28, 2019, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on December 28, 2019, 03:25:13 PM
Then what is it?

I believe 118 against UW-Klotsche in 1969.

More recently, 114 against Grambling in Nov 2013.  Otule leading scorer with 17.  Steve Taylor next with 16.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 28, 2019, 03:32:52 PM
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on December 28, 2019, 03:29:15 PM
I believe 118 against UW-Klotsche in 1969.

The next highest was 114 against Grambling in Nov 2013.  Otule leading scorer with 17.  Steve Taylor next with 16.

^^^ true

Chris and Steve a combined 13/14 2FG in that 2013 game. 8 double-digit scorers, and Toddler with 8. Team only shot 5/18 3FG for 27.8% from 3. Such a bad shooting team.

We followed up the 114 point effort by scoring 35 in a loss to tOSU... and the season went down the crapper.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 28, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Markusquette on December 28, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Time for the walk-ons.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
Agree.  No reason to have any legit players on floor at this point..and reward those guys for the work they put in.  Come on Steve!

This is the one bad result I have seen because of the transition from RPI to NET as the primary metric for the selection committee. The NET takes efficiency numbers into account so every single possession matters.  I wanted the walk ons in with 4 or 5 minutes left with a game like this. Protects against injuries and rewards hard working kids. But if our lead shrunk from 50 to 35 over the last 5 minutes, it hurts our NET numbers and as silly as it sounds, could cost us a seed line at the end of the season. Since the NET became the primary metric, Wojo has waited until the other team pulled their starters before sending the walk ons in. If Central Arkansas ran their starters the whole game, I don't think the walk ons would have made it in.

I feel for the walk ons but Wojo keeping the foot on the gas is unfortunately the right strategy with the NET. I wish there was some way the coaches could come up with an agreement to pull the starters at the last media timeout if its a 25+ point blow out.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: IrwinFletcher on December 28, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
Don't KenPom and T-rank have some sort of shut off when it gets into garbage time, meaning, it stops using the data when walk ones come in?
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 28, 2019, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on December 28, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
Don't KenPom and T-rank have some sort of shut off when it gets into garbage time, meaning, it stops using the data when walk ones come in?

Not that I'm aware of and I definitely haven't heard of that for NET.
Title: Re: Central Arkansas Game Thread
Post by: Jay Bee on December 29, 2019, 12:03:47 PM
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on December 28, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
Don't KenPom and T-rank have some sort of shut off when it gets into garbage time, meaning, it stops using the data when walk ones come in?

I wouldn't explain it exactly that way, but 'sort of' for T-Rank.
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