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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Milkshakes on November 30, 2019, 09:03:52 AM

Title: Three-point Defense
Post by: Milkshakes on November 30, 2019, 09:03:52 AM
Sorry if this was discussed elsewhere. The quote from the LA Times below is pretty incredible. If they can run Maryland off the 3 point line the way they have in the last two games I like our chances.


"Going under the radar was the impressive three-point defense, which limited USC to three for 12, with all the made shots coming in the second half. The Golden Eagles held Davidson to 0 for 14 on Thursday."
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: tower912 on November 30, 2019, 10:08:53 AM
They clearly made it a priority.  It hurt the help on drives and cuts to the rim.   It was almost no-help on the perimeter and only the post helping on drives.  So, it was an ADJUSTMENT.   Teams will start game planning to counter it, and another adjustment will follow.   

So, what some see as terrible interior defense is actually a emphasis  on 3 pt defense.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: CountryRoads on November 30, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
If you take out the Badger game, MU opponents have shot 19/88 (21.5%) from deep. It might have a little bit to do with the new line but that's pretty good.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 30, 2019, 11:45:26 AM
Quote from: AirPunch on November 30, 2019, 10:35:43 AM
If you take out the Badger game, MU opponents have shot 19/88 (21.5%) from deep. It might have a little bit to do with the new line but that's pretty good.

Agreed it has been very good ex Wisconsin. But along with tower's note about adjustments, 3P% defense can be fluky. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Maryland makes their fair share or even goes off tomorrow due to one or both of those factors. Preemptive request for people to refrain from the "Wojo sucks again" or "these guys are pathetic" if that does happen. I know I'm shouting into the void here but felt it needed to be said.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: MU82 on November 30, 2019, 11:52:05 AM
If we can keep Theo in the game, and/or if Morrow plays like he did yesterday (much better than he did Thu), I like the concept of running teams off the 3-point line as much as is reasonably possible.

In addition to reducing the likelihood of opponents' 12-2 runs that include three 3s, it also forces teams out of their comfort zone. In today's hoops, so much is predicated on setting up 3s for good shooters that it can really mess with an offense to not give many clear looks. I know it affects Markus when teams do that to him.

Keep them under 30% from 3 and keep Theo out of foul trouble, I really like our chances.

Markus scoring 50 again on 24 shots would be OK, too.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: CountryRoads on November 30, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on November 30, 2019, 11:45:26 AM
Agreed it has been very good ex Wisconsin. But along with tower's note about adjustments, 3P% defense can be fluky. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Maryland makes their fair share or even goes off tomorrow due to one or both of those factors. Preemptive request for people to refrain from the "Wojo sucks again" or "these guys are pathetic" if that does happen. I know I'm shouting into the void here but felt it needed to be said.

I would agree. Davidson especially had a lot of open looks that they missed.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: MU82 on November 30, 2019, 12:10:39 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on November 30, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
I would agree. Davidson especially had a lot of open looks that they missed.

They had some open looks but they also got chased off the line a lot. Maybe, psychologically, they didn't feel some of their open looks were as open as they looked (if you know what I'm saying). Especially by the middle of the second half.

I mean, we also had plenty of open looks and didn't knock down a lot of them.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: mu03eng on November 30, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on November 30, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
I would agree. Davidson especially had a lot of open looks that they missed.

It balances out because Wisconsin hit a lot of contested 3s against MU that based on previous and since performances were absolute outliers for Wisconsin
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: skianth16 on November 30, 2019, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on November 30, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
I would agree. Davidson especially had a lot of open looks that they missed.

I had a coach in my younger years that had a poster saying "The more I practice, the luckier I get" and I think some of that applies to the Davidson game. 3 point defense was a priority, and that threw Davidson off their gameplan. So yeah, there's an element of luck in them going 0-fer, but that's probably due in large part to our early success on defense.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: tower912 on November 30, 2019, 12:31:07 PM
Part of the problem against Wisconsin was not securing defensive rebounds.  A traditionally poor offensive rebound team got boards one on three and turned them into open 3 looks while MU scrambled to recover.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: The Sultan on November 30, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
My recollection, and I might be wrong, is that a lot of Wisconsin's 3s where made in transition or at least before the defense got set. 
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: Jay Bee on November 30, 2019, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on November 30, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
I would agree. Davidson especially had a lot of open looks that they missed.

Let the record show... Davidson's 3FGA/FGA was 28.3% against us. For the season, it's 42.0%.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: MU82 on November 30, 2019, 03:23:27 PM
I'd say it's a fluke that not a single one of Davidson's 3s went down. I mean, sources say they had made a 3 in 7,450,221 straight games. But I think MU deserves some credit for Davidson's poor overall performance from behind the arc.
Title: Re: Three-point Defense
Post by: Jay Bee on November 30, 2019, 03:29:53 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2019, 03:23:27 PM
I'd say it's a fluke that not a single one of Davidson's 3s went down. I mean, sources say they had made a 3 in 7,450,221 straight games. But I think MU deserves some credit for Davidson's poor overall performance from behind the arc.

I think that's fair.

Would also echo EFR's comment re: people spazzing when some team has a good day against us.
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