Yes, they do. Eff 'em again.
Marcus goes off for 47. SOTG
GO WARRIORS
ESPN 2 or U??
U
Pile up the fouls on them
U
Run into Theo's elbow, foul on Theo
Our offense is so bad
I really don't understand why there is so little ball movement on offense. No wonder we have trouble getting open looks.
What's up with this thread? Are people actually spending time with their family instead of watching MU?
Losers
Quote from: Johnny B on November 28, 2019, 05:24:47 PM
ESPN 2 or U??
You will never fail when reading the tv thread on the top. ;)
When did this tip? Said 5:30 online, I turned it on at 5:29 and it was almost to the under 4.
LOL at the announcers acting like Marquette plays some sort of high tempo game
Lots of bad positioning on defense in the last few possessions leading to easy Davidson baskets
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 28, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
When did this tip? Said 5:30 online, I turned it on at 5:29 and it was almost to the under 4.
I just home from Thanksgiving. Homer said the USC/Fairfield game ended fast. MU tipped around 5:20
We just don't get any easy buckets. It's unreal.
'Yeah Howard is preseason All American but look at this guy who averages 16 puts a game..."
okay
Down 5 w 12 min to go in 1st half. Doable.
That was a nice 5 point possession
Flop should be like playing advantage in soccer
Meaning let MU take the ball up before the whistle. Call it later
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 28, 2019, 05:45:54 PM
Meaning let MU take the ball up before the whistle. Call it later
Yup.
Keep passing up shots until you travel is never a good strategy.
They may want to try Bailey on Grady. McEwen, Anim, and Howard not having success yet.
wow, we are terrible
Apparently ESPNU level announcers when on ESPNU.
Does anybody on this team have a left hand? Just kind of dawned on me watching this last segment. MU seems like a really easy team to guard right now.
Just not sure how people can blame Wojo right now
He cant force guys to take and make wide open shots.
ALthough I will say, putting someone better on Grady is his call though.
Bailey shoots before he is square to the basket nearly every time
Tough game to watch with all the whistles and poor play.
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 28, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
Bailey shoots before he is square to the basket nearly every time
Yep, always about his feet
I have never seen a worse offensive team in my life
Our only chance of scoring is at the line...and we are even missing some of those.
This is absolutely pitiful offense
Man, it feels like Markus can't do anything right now. He really needs to get going on offense or we're gonna be in trouble
Anyone running a Davidson lay-up count. So much for that improved defense....
Good call on BB. Hate to quote Brent, but 10 toes to the line.
Quote from: 1SE on November 28, 2019, 06:04:53 PM
Anyone running a Davidson lay-up count. So much for that improved defense....
layups off of half court offense? I thought that was illegal.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 28, 2019, 06:03:51 PM
I have never seen a worse offensive team in my life
Our only chance of scoring is at the line...and we are even missing some of those.
This is absolutely pitiful offense
Hey - dont knock the 3 man weave
I'll admit Koby has done a lot wrong so far but that was not a blocking foul at all
FINALLY Markus!
our 7 footer cant even make the And 1 bunny
Jayce shoots like he has a broken arm. This team....
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 28, 2019, 06:09:26 PM
our 7 footer cant even make the And 1 bunny
Shhhhhhhhh........Don't tell cheeks. He still thinks he's good.
I mean...I just have no words for their offense. What have they practiced all year?? Now at halftime, the staff has to realize how hard they are hedging on those ball screens, and it's up to them to come up with something to counter that.
0 assists.
Do you miss the hausers yet?
I turned on at 15:00 - wheres theo?
Jayce misses both free throws of course
We havent made a basket in like 8 minutes
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 28, 2019, 06:10:36 PM
Did I miss a play?
He passed to the open big man. My standards are real low for this offense.
Quote from: 1SE on November 28, 2019, 06:11:28 PM
I turned on at 15:00 - wheres theo?
Where he always is..on the bench with two early fouls
Honestly, this just feels like 90% bad shooting to me. Even when we get good looks we're bricking everything. If we can get some of those to fall and get Theo back on defense, I think we'll be alright.
Quote from: muguru on November 28, 2019, 06:12:43 PM
Where he always is..on the bench with two early fouls
Jaycee and Ed look awful
Do u guys think we can still make the NIT come march?????
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on November 28, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
Honestly, this just feels like 90% bad shooting to me. Even when we get good looks we're bricking everything. If we can get some of those to fall and get Theo back on defense, I think we'll be alright.
Did you not see Sacar spin in the middle of the lane and just throw the ball to Davidson? This is a case of being bad
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on November 28, 2019, 06:12:01 PM
He passed to the open big man. My standards are real low for this offense.
Shoot. I was hoping my tv was behind yours and I was waiting for something good
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on November 28, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
Honestly, this just feels like 90% bad shooting to me. Even when we get good looks we're bricking everything. If we can get some of those to fall and get Theo back on defense, I think we'll be alright.
But aside from Markus who can actually shoot??
Thats the issue. Not 1 guy can make a shot.
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on November 28, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
Honestly, this just feels like 90% bad shooting to me. Even when we get good looks we're bricking everything. If we can get some of those to fall and get Theo back on defense, I think we'll be alright.
I don't disagree but then doesn't it also stand to reason that davidson will start hitting some 3's as well?? That's what concerns me.
That helps
And Markus finally makes one
It's like this team spends 100 percent of its practice time on half-court defense to absolute detriment of every other part of the game.
Our offense is contested shots or free throws. Every possession is an absolute grind.
Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 06:15:06 PM
Did you not see Sacar spin in the middle of the lane and just throw the ball to Davidson? This is a case of being bad
I didn't mean that every shot was good, just that we're down mostly because we're shooting abnormally poorly
Can't find the game in Chicago. Ugh. Alabama Iowa state on channel
Greg Elliot wide open in the corner. Blinders on with ice water in his veins. 4-12. Ugh.
Quote from: muguru on November 28, 2019, 06:15:46 PM
I don't disagree but then doesn't it also stand to reason that davidson will start hitting some 3's as well?? That's what concerns me.
Thats fair. To be honest, I didn't realize how bad Davidson has been from 3
I had an early Thanksgiving "lunch" and I'm not hungry at all but I feel the need to eat something to help ignore my feelings about Marquette's offense
Grady & Howard: 29
Everyone else: 22
This is just awful on both ends.
ed is a major disappointment, absolutely inept
Its gonna take a few games for the wojo apologists and homers to realize this is just simply a bad basketball team with a one trick pony star and zero help.
We lost 2 of maybe 4 legitimate d1 march capable players on this team. I wouldnt even bank on a deep NIT run this year
6 field goals made, 4 by Markus. 24%
8 turnovers
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 28, 2019, 06:18:29 PM
Grady & Howard: 29
Everyone else: 22
This is just awful on both ends.
Their role guys are making lay ups at least. And made the couple free throws they got.
Davidson: 45.8% FG, 0% 3FG
Marquette: 24% FG, 10% 3FG
Both teams should see some regression to the mean. Hopefully we can get Theo back and keep clamping down on D in the second half.
Now let's not judge MU on one half. They are just adjusting to Wojo's well honed strategic game plan.
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 28, 2019, 06:19:08 PM
Its gonna take a few games for the wojo apologists and homers to realize this is just simply a bad basketball team with a one trick pony star and zero help.
We lost 2 of maybe 4 legitimate d1 march capable players on this team. I wouldnt even bank on a deep NIT run this year
Not even Greg Popovich can get guys to make wide open shots
This isn't coaching
Davidson shooting 46% and 0% from 3. They average 10.8 TO's a game but have 11 already. They have 1 offensive rebound.
But no one talks about how well we are playing on Defense today.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 28, 2019, 06:21:14 PM
Not even Greg Popovich can get guys to make wide open shots
This isn't coaching
In college does the coach not recruit the players on the team?
Yes, they are playing well defensively. But at some point gotta be able to put it in the hole, too.
0 assists and 8 TOs for the half. Ouch.
Quote from: IrwinFletcher on November 28, 2019, 06:23:10 PM
Davidson shooting 46% and 0% from 3. They average 10.8 TO's a game but have 11 already. They have 1 offensive rebound.
But no one talks about how well we are playing on Defense today.
Definitely can't criticize the effort. Boys are playing hard. But man this offense is bruuutal
Agreed 141. If it isn't coaching, it's the GM's fault. In college buckets, that's the same dude.
Quote from: warriors141 on November 28, 2019, 06:23:47 PM
In college does the coach not recruit the players on the team?
Coaching was also the reason we lost two starters in the offseason
With a game like this my only hope may be to have a post featured on @ScoopTakes
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 28, 2019, 06:27:11 PM
Coaching was also the reason we lost two starters in the offseason
Will be brought up in every game thread for the next three years.
Quote from: Daniel on November 28, 2019, 06:16:55 PM
Can't find the game in Chicago. Ugh. Alabama Iowa state on channel
ESPNU
Nobody has confidence in their shot. Rarely have I seen somebody catch and shoot. They're always looking for the next pass, but at some point they'll have to realize they have the best look, right?
Everybody on the team is a brave looking to default into Markus' alpha hands.
Quote from: warriors141 on November 28, 2019, 06:23:47 PM
In college does the coach not recruit the players on the team?
We've had guys who can make shots before.
Basically what you're saying is unless guys are 5 star 1 and done players it's always gonna be on the coach for getting what he can get.
If you can't see the stupidity behind blaming a coach because we missed 7 wide open 3s
You yourself can not be coached
crap, speaking of Popovich. He's running into the same issue now.
Quote from: Daniel on November 28, 2019, 06:16:55 PM
Can't find the game in Chicago. Ugh. Alabama Iowa state on channel
ESPNU
Quote from: seakm4 on November 28, 2019, 06:31:06 PM
Nobody has confidence in their shot. Rarely have I seen somebody catch and shoot. They're always looking for the next pass, but at some point they'll have to realize they have the best look, right?
Everybody on the team is a brave looking to default into Markus' alpha hands.
Wojos fault
Three on Theo. Ugh
What a garbage call on Theo
Koby and his travels...
This is where a swarming, turnover forcing, pressing defense would help make offense easier. Maybe it's the defense Wojo needs to change up once in awhile, rather than the offense.
THE ANSWER
Best consecutive possessions of the season?
FINALLY OFF BALL CUT AND PASS
Two positive possessions in a row!
No help Ed?
You mean somebody actually moved without the ball?
We are an awful passing team.
Fair point Guru. They get zero easy baskets.
These dumb fouls on Theo have been so harmful for our interior defense
Quote from: seakm4 on November 28, 2019, 06:45:54 PM
#FreeSymir
consistently doubled and trapped on the perimeter and cannot find the open guy at all.
Markus is nobody's All American
Morrow shouldn't play
Anyone else notice ever since the minute Markus got the scoring record he seems to have lost the dead eye shooting. I don't mean that as a criticism but I don't think I'm incorrect.
Symir can't even get a sniff???? If this is going to be his role just redshirt him please.
Play anyone but Morrow at the 5, please
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 28, 2019, 06:52:14 PM
Anyone else notice ever since the minute Markus got the scoring record he seems to have lost the dead eye shooting. I don't mean that as a criticism but I don't think I'm incorrect.
he has been bad, as has the entire team except for one half against purdue. Think he realizes this is a sinking ship that is going nowhere
Get Theo in the damn game. Wojo also getting coached out the gym.
Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 06:52:52 PM
Symir can't even get a sniff???? If this is going to be his role just redshirt him please.
agreed
Theo needs to play as many minutes as possible the rest of the game. If he fouls out, so be it, but we can't have him just sitting on the bench
I fully expected the Davidson guy taking 3 steps would lead to a Theo foul
We are really lucky Davidson is having a 30 year poor performance from behind the arc
Hey, there's Jim McIlvaine sitting behind the basket with his wife
Theo literally cannot stand without being called for a foul
Get Koby a hockey stick
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 28, 2019, 07:00:30 PM
Theo literally cannot stand without being called for a foul
It's absolutely ridiculous
College basketball is so tough to watch sometimes man. The rules/calls are brutal.
Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 06:52:52 PM
Symir can't even get a sniff???? If this is going to be his role just redshirt him please.
He's already played. The football rule doesn't apply to basketball.
Jayce Johnson. Lmfao. You couldn't even slide a piece of paper under him when he jumps. Guy is a flat out scrub
We will be soooo tournament tested come Spring. Do we get a better draft pick after losing to Davidson?
Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 07:03:25 PM
Jayce Johnson. Lmfao. You couldn't even slide a piece of paper under him when he jumps. Guy is a flat out scrub
Lmao thats a classic one right there but basically true!
Is it just me or is our bigs' rebounding positioning really bad? They get caught way too far under the basket all the time
are we seriously crying about refs when losing to a poor Davidson team? just shows how this program has gone down the shithole
Quote from: warriors141 on November 28, 2019, 07:04:23 PM
are we seriously crying about refs when losing to a poor Davidson team? just shows how this program has gone down the craphole
Not these refs alone. All NCAA refs
And make no mistake. This Davidson team flat out stinks.
Quote from: jonny09 on November 28, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
And make no mistake. This Davidson team flat out stinks.
Well, we're not very good either unfortunately
Is there any record this year that gets wojo fired or is his job guaranteed because of garcia?
The way this game is being officiated is making it even more unwatchable than it should be
There comes a certain time in all of this where we become funny bad.
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on November 28, 2019, 07:12:41 PM
Is there any record this year that gets wojo fired or is his job guaranteed because of garcia?
wojo is a master at keeping his job. he keeps expectations and hopes high for next year, while absolutely sucking at the present
Im convinced at this point if we finish dead last in the big east it wont be enough as long as garcia doesnt jump ship!
There's our all American.
Scar freaking anim
Finish em
Grady:
24 points
10 rebounds
10 turnovers
Bailey lol. Good lord dude
Ended up being a 2??
Solid 4 minutes from Bailey today.
wow.......just when you start to have some positive thoughts
We work better as a team when markus brings it up. The d is almost always is off guard and we don't have to spend 10 seconds trying to get it to him.
Another absolutely trash foul against Theo. Huge impact on this game.
Poor theo.
Neither of the last two fouls we're actual fouls. Awful refs.
He found God Mode
He's a joy to watch when he's being Markus
One man band baby. Get that dub
Livith by thine markus. Dieuth by thine markus
Great to get the W, but I still haven't seen anything this season which makes me think our fate this season isn't 100% tied to Markus
Quote from: 1SE on November 28, 2019, 07:28:21 PM
Great to get the W, but I still haven't seen anything this season which makes me think our fate this season isn't 100% tied to Markus
Purdue?
Most teams are very dependent on their best player
Who hoo... the beginning of a roll...
Quote from: shoothoops on November 28, 2019, 07:18:22 PM
Grady:
24 points
10 rebounds
10 turnovers
The vaunted Triple-Double of infamy.
Massive win.
We avoid Fairfield
How much of a bigger channel is ESPN2 that ESPNU?
You think they'd want to broadcast Markus Howard to a larger audience. He is must see tv. Ala Jimmer Fredette.
Quote from: 1SE on November 28, 2019, 07:25:04 PM
He's a joy to watch when he's being Markus
I believe some here call that "Hero Ball"
Quote from: 1SE on November 28, 2019, 06:04:53 PM
Anyone running a Davidson lay-up count. So much for that improved defense....
the shot chart shows Davidson making three shots outside of the paint. And one of those was from about 10 feet.
Quote from: marqfan22 on November 28, 2019, 07:39:01 PM
How much of a bigger channel is ESPN2 that ESPNU?
86m to 67m
Quote from: 1SE on November 28, 2019, 07:28:21 PM
Great to get the W, but I still haven't seen anything this season which makes me think our fate this season isn't 100% tied to Markus
Id rather it be 100% tied to Markus than any other player in college hoops