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Title: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Not A Serious Person on November 16, 2019, 11:40:36 AM
What do you think of this list?

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-safety-schools-college-fallback-options

1 University of Colorado Boulder 
2 University of Vermont
3 George Washington University
4 James Madison University
5 Pennsylvania State University
6 Occidental College
7 Virginia Polytechnic Institute
8 University of Massachusetts Amherst
9 Lewis & Clark College
10 UNC/Asheville
11 Marquette University
12 Skidmore College
13 The University of Texas at Austin
14 University of California, Irvine
15 Tulane University
16 University of California, Santa Cruz
17 George Mason University
18 Texas Tech University
19 Fordham University
20 American University
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Cheeks on November 16, 2019, 12:02:10 PM
What do you think of this list?

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-safety-schools-college-fallback-options

1 University of Colorado Boulder 
2 University of Vermont
3 George Washington University
4 James Madison University
5 Pennsylvania State University
6 Occidental College
7 Virginia Polytechnic Institute
8 University of Massachusetts Amherst
9 Lewis & Clark College
10 UNC/Asheville
11 Marquette University
12 Skidmore College
13 The University of Texas at Austin
14 University of California, Irvine
15 Tulane University
16 University of California, Santa Cruz
17 George Mason University
18 Texas Tech University
19 Fordham University
20 American University

UC Irvine is rated top 50 in the nation as is Tulane and Texas.  Interesting list.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 16, 2019, 01:01:24 PM
This should be a nice discussion on scoop


But it's 2019, safety schools? Lol
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 16, 2019, 01:56:47 PM
I think this generalizes too much, it all depends on the program.

If I didn’t get into Northwestern or the Marquette PT program, Illinois was my “safety school”

I guess if everything went horribly, horribly wrong then yea, Marquette’s general admission would have ended up being my safety.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: tower912 on November 16, 2019, 02:06:31 PM
Surprised to see Marquette there, as I cannot remember the last Marquette safety to make the NFL.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Not A Serious Person on November 16, 2019, 02:40:34 PM
Surprised to see Marquette there, as I cannot remember the last Marquette safety to make the NFL.

Artie Green
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on November 16, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
Acceptance rates and stuff.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: D'Lo Brown on November 16, 2019, 03:41:18 PM
Those are all quality schools, I don't see why Marquette should be ashamed to be on such a list.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: warriorchick on November 16, 2019, 03:52:55 PM
It's a crowd-sourced list.  It's meaningless.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: JWags85 on November 16, 2019, 05:32:19 PM
UT-Austin is quite difficult to get into, especially out of state. I know kids that went to Virginia and Wash U who didn’t get into UT.

And Occidental College is less than 2000 kids. That’s enough to already know this list sucks.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Not A Serious Person on November 16, 2019, 06:43:55 PM
Those are all quality schools, I don't see why Marquette should be ashamed to be on such a list.

I completely agree. 

Safety school means that after the select "reach schools" (Ivies, Stanford, Duke, Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern, etc), the country views these schools as very desirable.  It also means the school has a national reputation.

If you are not in the top 20 of US news rankings (to cite one benchmark), this is a good list to be on.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 17, 2019, 03:31:35 PM
We just took my younger daughter to visit UVM for an open house last weekend, but it's not her safety school.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 18, 2019, 08:36:28 AM
As others have alluded, being crowdsourced, I suspect kids who listed some of the really good schools were shooting even higher based on their grades and SATs. For example, kids who listed UC-Irvine might have had places like Stanford, UC-Berkeley or UCLA as their target schools. And I wouldn't be surprised if those who listed MU were shooting for places like Northwestern, WashU, and similar schools.

The headline is all about the ciicks....
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 18, 2019, 11:11:52 AM
Those are all quality schools, I don't see why Marquette should be ashamed to be on such a list.

pretty much all of them (except for the Liberal Arts schools) are ranked in the first tier for US News.  It's like it's a list made up of schools like UWM, Eastern Illinois, Louisville and Chico State on which MU is included.

CU was actually my dream school, until made dad figured out I wanted to go there to just ski and hike (like most students there).  A girl who didn't get into Texas sued all the way to the SCOTUS to get in there, so I don't know how it's a "safety school" unless the top choice for applicants is Rice.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Coleman on November 18, 2019, 11:43:30 AM
These are all great schools. No shame in being on this list. Yeah, if we are a "safety school" for Harvard, University of Chicago, or Stanford...fine by me. Never had any illusion of being in that tier.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 18, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
pretty much all of them (except for the Liberal Arts schools) are ranked in the first tier for US News.  It's like it's a list made up of schools like UWM, Eastern Illinois, Louisville and Chico State on which MU is included.

CU was actually my dream school, until made dad figured out I wanted to go there to just ski and hike (like most students there).  A girl who didn't get into Texas sued all the way to the SCOTUS to get in there, so I don't know how it's a "safety school" unless the top choice for applicants is Rice.


UT Austin is like UW Madison.  It's the target school for a lot of especially instate students, but will be more of a "safety school" for some looking from out of state.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 18, 2019, 12:39:25 PM
MU & VPI in the top 11, TAMU nowhere to be found. Buzz made a major trade down, SMDH
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 18, 2019, 05:24:51 PM
I'm right here

Oh wait...
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 18, 2019, 06:52:36 PM
  rest assured all you st norbie rejects, help is on the way
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 18, 2019, 11:13:49 PM

CU was actually my dream school, until made dad figured out I wanted to go there to just ski and hike (like most students there).  A girl who didn't get into Texas sued all the way to the SCOTUS to get in there, so I don't know how it's a "safety school" unless the top choice for applicants is Rice.



Yep. A friend of mine went for CU for the much same reason. After graduating, she became a ski instructor in Vail for a couple of years before it was time to move on. Fortunately, she had studied enough between the skiing and hiking to get a good GPA, and she ended up in law school at Vanderbilt.

CU, like most big schools, is what you make of it. If you do enough work, you can find your way to a great future. If you don't, you may just get an expensive piece of paper for the wall.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Coleman on November 19, 2019, 08:48:41 AM
I guess I can't identify with having a "dream school" or a "fallback."

I applied to MU and UW-Madison. Wasn't really thrilled about either initially, just was a pragmatic choice as I wanted to be close to my high school girlfriend (haha what an idiot I was!) who also applied to both and ended up going to Madison. I also got into both schools. I decided it was best to go to a different school than my gf, and if it was meant to be it would still work out 70 miles apart. We broke up summer after freshman year. Ended up marrying an MU gal. No regrets with my choice of MU, although my student loans would already be paid off if I went the other way...
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: StillAWarrior on November 19, 2019, 10:56:11 AM
CU was actually my dream school, until made dad figured out I wanted to go there to just ski and hike (like most students there).

There was often a third main attraction of CU...even when I was growing up in Colorado (i.e., before legalization was a thing).  The common saying was always, "CU:  Nine months in Boulder, three months in rehab."
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 19, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
The quality of education at Princeton, Harvard or Yale at the under graduate  level is no different than the education at Marquette. However having an Ivy undergrad education will open more doors.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Eldon on November 19, 2019, 03:45:20 PM
The quality of education at Princeton, Harvard or Yale at the under graduate  level is no different than the education at Marquette. However having an Ivy undergrad education will open more doors.

MU is a solid school but that first sentence is false.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: JWags85 on November 19, 2019, 04:36:17 PM
There was often a third main attraction of CU...even when I was growing up in Colorado (i.e., before legalization was a thing).  The common saying was always, "CU:  Nine months in Boulder, three months in rehab."

CU is such a unique place.  My girlfriend from freshman year of college transferred back home there, so I spent a good amount of time over the next 6-8 months there.  I'm wasnt an avid fan of "herbal supplements" nor was I much for the crunchy granola pseudo hippie vibe Boulder can be known for.  I love to ski but otherwise not a huge outdoors (camping, hiking) sort of person.  That being said, it had a magnetism that I was obsessed with.  It is eclectic, and laid back, and diverse.  Good academics, a gorgeous campus, Folsom is an amazing venue, and close to Denver.  I was in love with where I went to school and couldn't leave, but if I was even remotely unhappy, I may have transferred after visit #2.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 19, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
CU is such a unique place.  My girlfriend from freshman year of college transferred back home there, so I spent a good amount of time over the next 6-8 months there.  I'm wasnt an avid fan of "herbal supplements" nor was I much for the crunchy granola pseudo hippie vibe Boulder can be known for.  I love to ski but otherwise not a huge outdoors (camping, hiking) sort of person.  That being said, it had a magnetism that I was obsessed with.  It is eclectic, and laid back, and diverse.  Good academics, a gorgeous campus, Folsom is an amazing venue, and close to Denver.  I was in love with where I went to school and couldn't leave, but if I was even remotely unhappy, I may have transferred after visit #2.

CU was strong in football at the time which made me aware of it.  Then a family vacation to Winter Park.  My dad vetoed it for my real motivations and because he would not pay for out-of-state tuition since I got into the major public schools in our state.

When I went back to Boulder a few years ago my wife and I were walking around campus during sorority rush weekend. Every girl was tall, thin, blonde and wearing black.  Very different from MU back in the 90's!  Downtown Boulder and the Pearl Street Mall are feckin' awesome too.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: StillAWarrior on November 19, 2019, 04:52:12 PM
CU is such a unique place.  My girlfriend from freshman year of college transferred back home there, so I spent a good amount of time over the next 6-8 months there.  I'm wasnt an avid fan of "herbal supplements" nor was I much for the crunchy granola pseudo hippie vibe Boulder can be known for.  I love to ski but otherwise not a huge outdoors (camping, hiking) sort of person.  That being said, it had a magnetism that I was obsessed with.  It is eclectic, and laid back, and diverse.  Good academics, a gorgeous campus, Folsom is an amazing venue, and close to Denver.  I was in love with where I went to school and couldn't leave, but if I was even remotely unhappy, I may have transferred after visit #2.

As strange as it seems to me now, my No. 1 criteria when choosing a college: get the hell out of Colorado.

I had a very brief period sophomore year of high school when I wanted to go to CC in Colorado Springs.  I went to a college night at my high school and was really intrigued by their "block system" where you took one class at a time.  I went home and told my dad, "I'm going to Colorado College."  He responded immediately, "No you're not."  That was the beginning and the end of my consideration of Colorado schools.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 19, 2019, 04:55:24 PM
As strange as it seems to me now, my No. 1 criteria when choosing a college: get the hell out of Colorado.

I had a very brief period sophomore year of high school when I wanted to go to CC in Colorado Springs.  I went to a college night at my high school and was really intrigued by their "block system" where you took one class at a time.  I went home and told my dad, "I'm going to Colorado College."  He responded immediately, "No you're not."  That was the beginning and the end of my consideration of Colorado schools.

I was getting materials from CC, was also very intrigued by it and the whole block plan and brought that one up to my dad. He was game and suggested we take a family vacation to ski in Colorado and check out CC during my senior year. Then I told him the cost there and, well, there was no vacation to Colorado and no applying to CC.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: StillAWarrior on November 19, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
I was getting materials from CC, was also very intrigued by CC and brought that one up to my dad. He was game and suggested we take a family vacation to ski in Colorado and check out CC during my senior year. Then I told him the cost of CC and, well, there was no vacation to Colorado.

My best friend from HS went to CC and loved it.  I visited one Spring Break, but can't remember which year.  When I arrived he had a case of Old Milwaukee for me because...well...I went to school in Milwaukee and all.  I had to break it to him that Miller was really the main Milwaukee beer.  But we drank it, of course.  I didn't want to be ungrateful or wasteful.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: WarriorFan on November 20, 2019, 01:49:29 PM
Notre Dame was my safety school, in case I didn't get into Marquette.
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 20, 2019, 03:25:35 PM
MU is a solid school but that first sentence is false.

How so?
Title: Re: Most Popular Safety Schools In The Country
Post by: Billy Hoyle on November 20, 2019, 04:23:01 PM
How so?

my guess is he's saying that due to the credentials of the professors at those schools (yes, many of those highly esteemed in their fields they do teach undergraduate courses). Though I am not sure that really matters all that much. I see the advantage being the end results - the connections (especially in the financial sector), the grade inflation helping grads get into the top grad schools, etc.